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Title: M crit rate
Post by: thepal on December 30, 2013, 07:12:13 PM
Ok if i remember well in interlude with passive wm and vala all nukers could reach 100% m crit rate...


Are u going to nerf it and make some % that wont be possible to pass?? like 30-40%? or again we'll see army of sps/xx?? cuz OL/es(ee) wont be possible anymore to make.
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Cromatorus on December 30, 2013, 07:16:49 PM
Quote from: thepal on December 30, 2013, 07:12:13 PM
Ok if i remember well in interlude with passive wm and vala all nukers could reach 100% m crit rate...


Are u going to nerf it and make some % that wont be possible to pass?? like 30-40%? or again we'll see army of sps/xx?? cuz OL/es(ee) wont be possible anymore to make.

Good question. And what be power of m crit.

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,278472.0.html
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Naiz on December 30, 2013, 07:24:29 PM
Quote from: somasz on December 30, 2013, 01:45:33 PM

My vote goes for changing magic critical multiplier from x4 to x2 or x3

That would be the best solution, i suppose.
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: KheopsDZ on December 30, 2013, 07:33:44 PM
Quote from: Abaddon on December 30, 2013, 07:27:49 PM
Tell me how many ppl will have valakas? It has 11 days of respawn... And how many ppl will have WM+Valakas? Its the only epic that gives nuker a dmg boost, archers and daggers have QA with 1day+ respawn and baium with 5, (valakas is way harder to kill, qa can be killed in first day of server, baium in 2nd-3rd) see the difference?
On phoenix after 2 months+ there were 4 necklaces and like 5 wm augus.

Yea make army of sps/ee and get 2 shotted by archer ^^
Agreed.
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Cromatorus on December 30, 2013, 07:33:51 PM
Quote from: Abaddon on December 30, 2013, 07:27:49 PM
Tell me how many ppl will have valakas? It has 11 days of respawn... And how many ppl will have WM+Valakas? Its the only epic that gives nuker a dmg boost, archers and daggers have QA with 1day+ respawn and baium with 5, (valakas is way harder to kill, qa can be killed in first day of server, baium in 2nd-3rd) see the difference?
On phoenix after 2 months+ there were 4 necklaces and like 5 wm augus.

Yea make army of sps/ee and get 2 shotted by archer ^^

Question is simple.... Every noob with money who go to  Donny....
If m crit be 100% scanerio is easy. After 1-2 months all left server and stay only donators..
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: thepal on December 30, 2013, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: Abaddon on December 30, 2013, 07:27:49 PM
Tell me how many ppl will have valakas? It has 11 days of respawn... And how many ppl will have WM+Valakas? Its the only epic that gives nuker a dmg boost, archers and daggers have QA with 1day+ respawn and baium with 5, (valakas is way harder to kill, qa can be killed in first day of server, baium in 2nd-3rd) see the difference?
On phoenix after 2 months+ there were 4 necklaces and like 5 wm augus.

Yea make army of sps/ee and get 2 shotted by archer ^^

Well if u make server u wont consider some things looking on 2 months live of server. Faster or later ppl will gather valakas and it will make total disbalance to game ( same like ty/de) who have to be nerfed...
If i remember well was enough to have wm passibe and activ to have like 70+ % of m crit. and was way too much :]
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: thepal on December 30, 2013, 07:46:42 PM
Quote from: Abaddon on December 30, 2013, 07:40:56 PM
Hehe, Admins said there will be no such donations like on old dragon where u could get everything^^
Will it be true or not?  ::)

They used to talk much :)
I give it 1-2 months :)
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 31, 2013, 01:28:14 AM
Quote from: Cromatorus on December 30, 2013, 07:33:51 PM
Question is simple.... Every noob with money who go to  Donny....
If m crit be 100% scanerio is easy. After 1-2 months all left server and stay only donators..

Where did you read that there will be rb jewles at donny? Because i cant fi d such info.
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: lNecropsy on January 03, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
TrackZero

Can you give us info about the M. Critical Rate and M. Critical power (x2 or x4) ?

I love mages, probally gonna roll a sps/ee, but i really dont want the old 100% critical rate. It doesnt matter if it will be only 10 ppl with it, it still unballanced.

Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Deavon on January 03, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
We tested sps/ee on FULL buffs , Valakas and Wild Magic lvl 10 passive augument .
The result was something near 50-60% magic critical rate.
It will change and adapt to server needs before the official opening.
Dont worry about that , no one will run around with 100% critical rate as in past.
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: lNecropsy on January 03, 2014, 04:19:57 PM
Quote from: ^Deavon^ on January 03, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
We tested sps/ee and FULL buffs , Valakas and Wild Magic lvl 10 passive augument .
The result was something near 50-60% magic critical rate.
It will change and adapt to server needs before the official opening.
Dont worry about that , no one will run around with 100% critical rate as in past.

Thanks for replying.
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Oo on January 03, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
Quote from: ^Deavon^ on January 03, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
We tested sps/ee on FULL buffs , Valakas and Wild Magic lvl 10 passive augument .
The result was something near 50-60% magic critical rate.
It will change and adapt to server needs before the official opening.
Dont worry about that , no one will run around with 100% critical rate as in past.
Check with active Wild Magic lvl 10 augument.
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: vaiper on January 03, 2014, 06:11:12 PM
Quote from: Oo on January 03, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
Check with active Wild Magic lvl 10 augument.

Active and passive with the same name didnt stack in the past, tested it with emp/might.

The only that did stack was pvp might and normal might.
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Cromatorus on January 03, 2014, 08:30:02 PM
Quote from: Abaddon on January 03, 2014, 06:30:05 PM
Scared about 100% m.crit rate?
dont make crit cap, dont make m.crit x2, (% ressists in interlude ftw)

you can decrease wm auguments power by half, so instead of 100% crit bonus they will give 50%, so reaching 100% will not be possible, sps with full buff, valakas and 2wm augus will have like 60% m.crit
imo this is kinda fair.

not scare... it was weird bug... thx this  server get in 1 month xxx number or new mages...
Anyway im curius how be look max atck speed and casting speed... Then was 2500 cast ( atk sped dont remeber)
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Cromatorus on January 03, 2014, 10:59:06 PM
Quote from: Abaddon on January 03, 2014, 08:53:48 PM
100% m.crit rate is not a bug in interlude, this is how it works.

joke of month and we got winner
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Shadow21 on January 03, 2014, 11:09:31 PM
Quote from: Cromatorus on January 03, 2014, 10:59:06 PM
joke of month and we got winner

this is u?^^ rly get some knowledge about l2 plox.
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Cromatorus on January 04, 2014, 09:49:00 AM
Quote from: Abaddon on January 03, 2014, 11:11:04 PM
20% m.crit cap was introduced in gracia part 2 and crit formula has been changed aswell.
Before u could get 100% m.crit rate thx to augus.
/selfown

i see u never play on offi :)
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: jaroPC_x15 on January 04, 2014, 09:59:47 AM
Quote from: Cromatorus on January 03, 2014, 08:30:02 PM
not scare... it was weird bug... thx this  server get in 1 month xxx number or new mages...
Anyway im curius how be look max atck speed and casting speed... Then was 2500 cast ( atk sped dont remeber)
whot?
my ss/wk for AQ was 2.5k cast, sps/es 3.2k or smth like that was in IL ;)
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Cromatorus on January 04, 2014, 10:03:39 AM
Quote from: jaroPC_x15 on January 04, 2014, 09:59:47 AM
whot?
my ss/wk for AQ was 2.5k cast, sps/es 3.2k or smth like that was in IL ;)

on dragon ?
Meybe mine mistake. Stats was to many times changes.. Remeber times when u can get 2500 atk speed with bow :3  Anyway cast was high.


BTW QUESTION TO GM'S:
How be max atk sped and cast on tarantula?
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: MegaZord on January 04, 2014, 11:22:59 AM
Was times i could easly get 3k + cast on my bp/es. Dont remember if it was Interlude or Hellbound chronicle.
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: frazir on January 04, 2014, 11:38:39 AM
Making max cast/atk speed rate kill many chars what dont do very high dmg but should have biggest atk/cast speed. Soo lets hope there will be no nerfs, or gonna be same shit like dragon xD
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: somasz on January 04, 2014, 11:42:38 AM
zilions of cast/attack speed are effect of tatoos, remove them :P
Title: Re: M crit rate
Post by: Cromatorus on January 04, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
Quote from: frazir on January 04, 2014, 11:38:39 AM
Making max cast/atk speed rate kill many chars what dont do very high dmg but should have biggest atk/cast speed. Soo lets hope there will be no nerfs, or gonna be same shit like dragon xD

remeber time when chp wotk with gsap ?:D
Anyway agree with that.