Poll
Question:
Do you want armors at donation shops?
Option 1: Yes.
votes: 36
Option 2: No.
votes: 94
Few hours ago TrackZero revealed a sneak peek from donation list, where he stated there are going to be
equipment rewards for donators:
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 09, 2014, 12:25:35 AM@ Donations: I think i was clear enough when i said there will be no weapons nor raid jewels at donny.
Using simple logic you can guess what there will be : armors,shields,hats,crystals , horn, etc..and other non braking gameplay items which you shouldn't bother tbh.
Well, you might say - of course, every non-donator ever is going to vote for weaker donations!
But in fact, I AM a casual donator, so let me offer you OUR view:
If I see a good server, I don't mind spending few bucks to support the developers. In most times, donations are really for the previously said "consumables and services". But the fact is, when I see these OP donations, where you can actually buy equipment and where if you donate enough, you can rule the server - it actually
discourage me from donation. You don't want to be that guy who "pays to win". There is really small part of donators who see it this way.
The other thing is, if the donation coins are going to be tradeable, it will COMPLETELY ANNIHILATE the economy. Adena will become completely obsolete the very second day after start and the only thing you'll ever trade with is top grade equipment for donate coins.
What I'm saying - I'm pretty damn sure you could earn more cash if you set fair donations - the
consumables and
services. I don't mind having even soul crystals there, but armors?
That sucks butt.
I'm pretty much indifferent about this topic, but this
QuoteMajority of donation community
is just dumb to say. Even if it were true(we have no idea if it is), you do NOT represent the majority of a community, so you really shouldn't bullshit people when you are stating YOUR - and yours ONLY - opinion.
Can you add pool yes (a-grade max) ?
- There wont be Armor/shields at donation NPC.
**Maybe we will be adding 2 decoration shields , they give no bonus they are just aesthetics extra thing and they exist by default.
TRACK0 WIN :D
Quote from: Riddle on January 09, 2014, 10:17:41 AM
TRACK0 WIN :D
Its DN so I put that msg in my signature. Drake wrote this few mins ago before TrackZero and his comment dissapeared. 8)
Quote from: mardel on January 09, 2014, 10:22:39 AM
Its DN so I put that msg in my signature. Drake wrote this few mins ago before TrackZero and his comment dissapeared. 8)
How are you?
Quote from: Scaryy on January 09, 2014, 10:26:17 AM
upside down shield (dont remember name) and u got my money here :D
And the one with spikes, from 300 movie ;)
I was surprised as freak when I saw that the last comment was by the man himself, who might as well be a myth, and I was so damn dissapointed when his post was already gone when I opened this topic... Oh well, guess we won't see Drake for couple of years again. :D
/jk
The hell, they can add a helicopter for donations for all I care, as long as it doesn't affect a gameplay!
I barely slept last night thinking about this donation thing, but now my day couldn't get any better !
I deleted my reply because had more sense for Track to reply to it as the issue started from a quote from his post.
Did I just lure the mighty drake out of his cave?
Praise me you filthy mortals for I am your god and savior! :DDD
Well 'phantom lord' responds from time to time, so sorry but you are yet another mere wanker after seeing drake's post 8)
Quote from: Blizzer on January 09, 2014, 10:38:19 AM
Well 'phantom lord' responds from time to time, so sorry but you are yet another mere wanker after seeing drake's post 8)
Couldn't you just let me be happy for once? :(
Quote from: nbx on January 09, 2014, 10:40:06 AM
Couldn't you just let me be happy for once? :(
Him? Quite doubt.
But im happy to see you are happy even you trolled me :*
Damn Track what did I do to deserve such treating :'(
Quote from: Blizzer on January 09, 2014, 10:48:05 AM
Damn Track what did I do to deserve such treating :'(
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=292
Be my guest.
QuoteBut im happy to see you are happy even you trolled me :*
I'm happy you are happy :D
Oi, my posts aren't THAT bad xD
Quote from: nbx on January 09, 2014, 09:26:23 AM
I'm pretty much indifferent about this topic, but this
is just dumb to say. Even if it were true(we have no idea if it is), you do NOT represent the majority of a community, so you really shouldn't bullshit people when you are stating YOUR - and yours ONLY - opinion.
I used to play with a lot of people who casually donates like me... Basically anyone who is older than 12 years isn't fond of paying to win :) So yeah, I'm pretty damn sure I do talk for majority.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 09, 2014, 10:14:08 AM
- There wont be Armor/shields at donation NPC.
**Maybe we will be adding 2 decoration shields , they give no bonus they are just aesthetics extra thing and they exist by default.
Perfect! Then you can lock this topic :)
QuoteI used to play with a lot of people who casually donates like me... Basically anyone who is older than 12 years isn't fond of paying to win :) So yeah, I'm pretty damn sure I do talk for majority.
Again, you are ASSUMING that you are right, but okay, let's say you are right and majority of the CASUAL donators have the same opinion as you. Still, you tried to sell your views as the opinion of the ENTIRE donator community. Don't you see a problem with that?
Quote from: nbx on January 09, 2014, 12:05:49 PM
Again, you are ASSUMING that you are right, but okay, let's say you are right and majority of the CASUAL donators have the same opinion as you. Still, you tried to sell your views as the opinion of the ENTIRE donator community. Don't you see a problem with that?
Totally agree with you nbx. Its people like that who presume the people they know is the entire community's type that destroys the world when we talk about religion or politics.
The real problem with armors or weapons on the shop is it destroys the in-game economy. DN economy was pretty kick ass for the most part the last time I played and I'd like that again!
Quote from: bsrealm on January 09, 2014, 12:14:57 PM
The real problem with armors or weapons on the shop is it destroys the in-game economy. DN economy was pretty kick ass for the most part the last time I played and I'd like that again!
True. It also destroys the feeling of Achievements and the 'fun' aspect of the game. It feels better when you get your S grade set through hard work rather than buy it. I remember old DN. I was one of those guys who couldn't afford to donate. After few weeks it turned out to be pretty annoying. Everything on the market was insanely expensive (tradable with coins only) and there was no place for players like myself. So I decided to leave. Hope it won't happen again on this server, not in the first few months (tho, I will donate for stuff like horn this time :). No Armors in Dshops please.
In the end, meat tastes better if you kill an animal with your bare hands. Ay? Anyone?
Quote from: Riddle on January 09, 2014, 12:56:21 PM
True. It also destroys the feeling of Achievements and the 'fun' aspect of the game. It feels better when you get your S grade set through hard work rather than buy it. I remember old DN. I was one of those guys who couldn't afford to donate. After few weeks it turned out to be pretty annoying. Everything on the market was insanely expensive (tradable with coins only) and there was no place for players like myself. So I decided to leave. Hope it won't happen again on this server, not in the first few months (tho, I will donate for stuff like horn this time :). No Armors in Dshops please.
In the end, meat tastes better if you kill an animal with your bare hands. Ay? Anyone?
No armors at donation npc.
Quote from: nbx on January 09, 2014, 12:05:49 PM
Again, you are ASSUMING that you are right, but okay, let's say you are right and majority of the CASUAL donators have the same opinion as you. Still, you tried to sell your views as the opinion of the ENTIRE donator community. Don't you see a problem with that?
Wow you're really angry for not a good reason :o Well I know really
a lot of people from
a lot of communities and most of them share my views, thus the "majority". I don't see a reason why this community should be different ::)
But mkay, I'll delete the last part, I don't want to cause you some trauma :)
I don't know guys, if anyone here is familiar with Path of Exile arpg (just for the record, that game has a lot of supporters spent over 1k $, and got only cosmetic stuff, skill effects, a T-shirt and so on), but it's a really good example of what Pentaheal is talking about. A nice amount of players who actually donate, don't like to p2w. I spent a lot of money on free to play games (more, than I should've spent with my income lol), and usually bought alternate skins, extra storage room, accessories etc... I go further, I didn't pay a cent for Hearthstone and MMDoC just because there is only one option: get ahead of others. If I enjoy playing enough, I feel the need of thank this for the creator/owner of the game/server, and this is what donation is supposed to be about. And I think, this is what keeps f2p stuff alive, not the kids with their well paid +16 gears or bought accounts in other games.
Exactly, I can't wait to donate for hat or something "meaningless" just to support server.
Quote from: Csenky on January 09, 2014, 01:08:41 PM
I don't know guys, if anyone here is familiar with Path of Exile arpg (just for the record, that game has a lot of supporters spent over 1k $, and got only cosmetic stuff, skill effects, a T-shirt and so on), but it's a really good example of what Pentaheal is talking about. A nice amount of players who actually donate, don't like to p2w. I spent a lot of money on free to play games (more, than I should've spent with my income lol), and usually bought alternate skins, extra storage room, accessories etc... I go further, I didn't pay a cent for Hearthstone and MMDoC just because there is only one option: get ahead of others. If I enjoy playing enough, I feel the need of thank this for the creator/owner of the game/server, and this is what donation is supposed to be about. And I think, this is what keeps f2p stuff alive, not the kids with their well paid +16 gears or bought accounts in other games.
+1
I will lock the topic with reminder there will be no armors nor weapons at donny. Spoil/craft them.
P.S. I fully understand you about PoE ;)