I was read at few topics that cast speed will be blocked at 2.1k.
Is that true?
Why such imporatnt information is not written at ancouments?
Quote from: Diabolo on January 15, 2014, 04:49:18 PM
I was read at few topics that cast speed will be blocked at 2.1k.
Is that true?
Why such imporatnt information is not written at ancouments?
Since malaria and HS buffs are nerfed, only ES can reach that casting anyway.
Quote from: vaiper on January 15, 2014, 05:02:14 PM
Since malaria and HS buffs are nerfed, only ES can reach that casting anyway.
Depending on the +x% DNET tattoo works, all Elfs can reach 2,1k.
Normal SpS on DC set, full buff + AM+acu + Baium ring + Malaria(4%) + 5wit Dyes= 1869 casting.
If DNET empo tattoo gives +10% casting, its going to reach almost 2.100 casting.
Quote from: Diabolo on January 15, 2014, 04:49:18 PM
I was read at few topics that cast speed will be blocked at 2.1k.
Is that true?
Why such imporatnt information is not written at ancouments?
Its the most common setup for all IL servers , so because we didnt changed it we didnt mention it.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 05:57:33 PM
Its the most common setup for all IL servers , so because we didnt changed it we didnt mention it.
Ok, you have right for it, BUT
If i made sps/es, hard exp, make sub, get full buff and i turn on Arcana Agility and say WTF Its not working.
I think this little changes from dnet il is most improtant info to players, who thinking abaout what char make.
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 09:58:14 AM
Ok, you have right for it, BUT
If i made sps/es, hard exp, make sub, get full buff and i turn on Arcana Agility and say WTF Its not working.
I think this little changes from dnet il is most improtant info to players, who thinking abaout what char make.
I guess AA isn't only about cspeed. Certainly it gives a huge boost but, IMO , the most important part of this buff is Cooldown reduction by 10% ... ::) Don't give Track, Drake and their babies bad opinion. I guess they know what they're doing andI cannot simply believe that ES/subs will be unplayable.
Its sad cuz for me sps/es die, Beter way sh/ps and i thinking abaout cast too.
BTW
Its atak speed blocked too ??? For example tyrant atak speed?
Any "Suprise!!!" more??
Track, you said that its most common setup on most IL serwer.
Yeah but we played at DNET IL not normal serwer, so people expext mention diffrence from Old dragon IL to Tarantula. Is that so hard?
Atk speed 1.500 max;p
Quote from: Lagusio on January 16, 2014, 10:36:38 AM
Atk speed 1.500 max;p
Next stupid block. What it change for any archer or something? Nothing, cuz they dont get even 1.5k, But it kill tyr/wc, tyr/ol who make more atak speed.
Is that BALANCE?? Its choose between archer and nuker...
Why do you think xxxx atk spd wins the game? If you have a character that can reach 1.5k cap easily and could get more, just change the build (dyes/set/tatoos). Ty/wc with 1.5k atk spd built on hp/p atk is a machine, a very good one. Also, cast spd cap? Build ur char for more m atk/p def (MA set instead of dc robe or so). That's my point of view, mby i am wrong, but this is how i see it.
Quote from: Dzadro on January 16, 2014, 12:18:46 PM
Why do you think xxxx atk spd wins the game? If you have a character that can reach 1.5k cap easily and could get more, just change the build (dyes/set/tatoos). Ty/wc with 1.5k atk spd built on hp/p atk is a machine, a very good one. Also, cast spd cap? Build ur char for more m atk/p def (MA set instead of dc robe or so). That's my point of view, mby i am wrong, but this is how i see it.
People don't like to think.
+1
90% of ppl want just "pewpew" non stop.
No need think , just keep hit with illimity mp , and hit so fast that they don't see their char hit xD.
Thx for your opinion
I wont make this char, but
Why i have to make char to matk dye tatoo, major arcana not dc robe now you think is beter way, but why you dont make it when cast is not blocked?
CUZ its was beter to make high cast, now when its blocked you think beter or same is matk so dont complain.
In my opinion this blocked (cast and atak speed) is not balance to all serwer cuz its not touch any char w/o nuker/summoner and tyrant, so whats the point of it?
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 12:55:04 PM
Thx for your opinion
I wont make this char, but
Why i have to make char to matk dye tatoo, major arcana not dc robe now you think is beter way, but why you dont make it when cast is not blocked?
CUZ its was beter to make high cast, now when its blocked you think beter or same is matk so dont complain.
In my opinion this blocked (cast and atak speed) is not balance to all serwer cuz its not touch any char w/o nuker/summoner and tyrant, so whats the point of it?
are you really complaining about 2,1k max cast and 1,5k max atk speed? seriously?
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
Its sad cuz for me sps/es die,
Wrong.
This means Sps/Es will be even
BETTER.Why? Because Sps/Es can use Major Arcana set : +Pdef, +stun resist +17%Matk.
And still have max Casting speed. (2085)
Quote from: lNecropsy on January 16, 2014, 01:11:04 PM
Wrong.
This means Sps/Es will be even BETTER.
Why? Because Sps/Es can use Major Arcana set : +Pdef, +stun resist +17%Matk.
And still have max Casting speed. (2085)
Leave him to QQ about chars that he was thinking to play .. :) Like some1 said "people dont like to think"...
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 12:55:04 PM
Thx for your opinion
I wont make this char, but
Why i have to make char to matk dye tatoo, major arcana not dc robe now you think is beter way, but why you dont make it when cast is not blocked?
CUZ its was beter to make high cast, now when its blocked you think beter or same is matk so dont complain.
In my opinion this blocked (cast and atak speed) is not balance to all serwer cuz its not touch any char w/o nuker/summoner and tyrant, so whats the point of it?
I completely agree with you. I played on a server where I got 3800 cast speed with sh/ps and it was perfect for me, this is just bullshit... 2100 cap wtf?! What do they think this is? Low rate retail like Lineage 2 server??
Quote from: igi on January 16, 2014, 02:32:18 PM
I completely agree with you. I played on this server where I got 3800 cast speed with sh/ps and it was perfect for me, this is just bullshit... 2100 cap wtf?! What do they think this is? Low rate retail like Lineage 2 server??
Well if u rly somehow got 3800 cast speed and it was perfect for You...
That means u have no objective view on this game...
I understand You dont care at all about make any balance in this game, You just wanna play most powerfull combo... good for you...
Quote from: thepal on January 16, 2014, 02:36:16 PM
Well if u rly somehow got 3800 cast speed and it was perfect for You...
That means u have no objective view on this game...
I understand You dont care at all about make any balance in this game, You just wanna play most powerfull combo... good for you...
I was being sarcastic to the comment of Diabolo but what u said was exactly my point. It's strange how you failed to notice it. xD 3800cast speed on sh/ps??? :)))
Quote from: igi on January 16, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
I was being sarcastic to the comment of Diabolo but what u said was exactly my point.
My apologise then :)
Quote from: igi on January 16, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
I was being sarcastic to the comment of Diabolo but what u said was exactly my point. It's strange how you failed to notice it. xD 3800cast speed on sh/ps??? :)))
you forgot to put emoticons,that's why ;D
Quote from: Garn. on January 16, 2014, 02:54:30 PM
you forgot to put emoticons,that's why ;D
I made face expressions xD
that's not interlude feature. I had on bartz interlude nc soft off, 1.7k att.speed on tyrant.
so saying that 1.5k/2.1k it's retail cap it's not true.
well as i see it no one form the GM staff said anything about attack speed cap so take it easy
Quote from: PepsiQQ on January 16, 2014, 04:06:03 PM
that's not interlude feature. I had on bartz interlude nc soft off, 1.7k att.speed on tyrant.
so saying that 1.5k/2.1k it's retail cap it's not true.
With dagger? Anyway its not 1.5 cap i think gms only said about cast speed
and even if it is.....1.5k atk speed and 2.1k cast speed..srsly how often will you have that cap?..you know dances expire in 2 minutes..if you run after enemy's and be outside the range of dancer(if you are solo xp/farm it will be even harder reach the cap) you will not have that cap, also even if let's say you get there...speed isn't everything....it's how much you hit as important. Critical dmg doesn't depend on atk speed but on damage, so...you have 1.4k atk sped...go for dmg..so you can hit harder.
Quote from: igi on January 16, 2014, 04:35:09 PM
With dagger? Anyway its not 1.5 cap i think gms only said about cast speed
Max Atk speed capped at 1.5k.
Gm said.
For the "thinking players" who post here.
You say sps/es will be beter cuz can use major arcana and have 2050 cast.
Are you joke man??? I cant understand your thinking. So why dont play sps/ee in major arcana and you will beter cuz you have +-1.7k cast but more matk??? LOOOL stupid thinking, you had 2.6k haha its to much, 2.1k will be beter for you. And you say that you are a "thinking man" I DONT THINK SO.
Quote from: lNecropsy on January 16, 2014, 05:04:04 PM
Max Atk speed capped at 1.5k.
Gm said.
on raidcall gms said maybe 1.6k atk speed cap but dont rember any post on forum about this.. So quote or didnt happen.
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 05:05:40 PM
For the "thinking players" who post here.
You say sps/es will be beter cuz can use major arcana and have 2050 cast.
Are you joke man??? I cant understand your thinking. So why dont play sps/ee in major arcana and you will beter cuz you have +-1.7k cast but more matk??? LOOOL stupid thinking, you had 2.6k haha its to much, 2.1k will be beter for you. And you say that you are a "thinking man" I DONT THINK SO.
U know nothing Jon Snow.
Quote from: igi on January 16, 2014, 05:09:00 PM
U know nothing Jon Snow.
Yeah you dont know even that atak speed is blocked man...
Quote from: igi on January 16, 2014, 04:35:09 PM
With dagger? Anyway its not 1.5 cap i think gms only said about cast speed
with fists
Quote from: igi on January 16, 2014, 05:09:00 PM
U know nothing Jon Snow.
+1
Quote from: igi on January 16, 2014, 05:08:17 PM
on raidcall gms said maybe 1.6k atk speed cap but dont rember any post on forum about this.. So quote or didnt happen.
-1
I wont search where GM posted it just to you have sure of it.
I already read it by a GM, its enough for me :D
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 05:28:43 PM
Yeah you dont know even that atak speed is blocked man...
QQ more? xD U can reach 2.1k with full buff+malaria+tattoos+arcane so tell me how much % of the time u will have all this? Dont tell me u will run to hot springs every 10 mins or u will always have dances on 100% of the time.. And pls use some brain 2050cast with MA set makes more dmg than 2.5k cast with DC set
Quote from: igi on January 16, 2014, 05:44:47 PM
QQ more? xD U can reach 2.1k with full buff+malaria+tattoos+arcane so tell me how much % of the time u will have all this? Dont tell me u will run to hot springs every 10 mins or u will always have dances on 100% of the time.. And pls use some brain 2050cast with MA set makes more dmg than 2.5k cast with DC set
1. I reach 2.1k everywhere on sps/es full buff, sps/ee can make 2.1k too
And when sps/es is fulbuffed and have for example 2.6k cast, why they must give up 500 cast and be like normal sps?
2. You said that MA is beter than DC set. So why every nuker use dc set? You use brain man.
there was no cast speed cap in IL chronickle
just cheked my screens, and HB screen(here on Dnet) shows 4k+ cast speed
so why does this topic even exist?
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 05:59:28 PM
1. I reach 2.1k everywhere on sps/es full buff, sps/ee can make 2.1k too
2. You said that MA is beter than DC set. So why every nuker use dc set? You use brain man.
cuz nost ppl r nobrainers or do what majority does... For example most ppl put +dex dyes on pr, i put +str p.s. I figure On most servers uve played there were mana pots so its normal for people to go for cast speed instead of maxing matk.
Quote from: flamingAwe on January 16, 2014, 06:01:52 PM
there was no cast speed cap in IL chronickle
just cheked my screens, and HB screen shows 4k+ cast speed
so why does this topic even exist?
+1 MAN
THERE WAS NO cast cap
But now the GMs want make Cast cap
And when you are smart and make your cast you will be nerfed to 2.1k like every nuker
EXAMPLE
SPS/EE 5k matk 2.1k cast
SPS/ES 5k matk 2.1k cast on Arcana Agility or no
Necro/xx 7k matk 2.1k cast
SH/xx 9k matk 1.9k cast
It is just example not real stats, but cast no diffrence cuz its blocked and matk diffrence is big
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 05:59:28 PM
1. I reach 2.1k everywhere on sps/es full buff, sps/ee can make 2.1k too
2. You said that MA is beter than DC set. So why every nuker use dc set? You use brain man.
1, to have full buff you need sws+bd+pp+se buffs...how do you have 4 chars beside you when you farm? mass party farm..and always 100% fullbuff?, really? so it will be 9 players on 1 mob...poor mob(you will not be full buff all the time i can tell you that)
2'rd...as you know..later on archers will have stun +30(you can enchant stun on archer..yes... you... can) and guess what will happen with dc...which has no stun resist....tada..stun...MA will not guarantee u will not be stunned but it gives you stun resist..so yeah you will wear MA if you know how to use your brain.
Also like gm said..what animation do you see with 4k casting speed?..also what kind of mutant will get to 4k casting speed?..i mean basic casting speed is around 500..and you reach to 4k? ...8 times more...now that was an unbalanced and bugged server.
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 06:04:54 PM
+1 MAN
THERE WAS NO cast cap
But now the GMs want make Cast cap
And when you are smart and make your cast you will be nerfed to 2.1k like every nuker
There r ppl in Africa that don't have clean water to drink and here u waste it for crying on forum
Quote from: Stazy on January 16, 2014, 06:08:21 PM
1, to have full buff you need sws+bd+pp+se buffs...how do you have 4 chars beside you when you farm? mass party farm..and always 100% fullbuff?, really? so it will be 9 players on 1 mob...poor mob(you will not be full buff all the time i can tell you that)
2'rd...as you know..later on archers will have stun +30(you can enchant stun on archer..yes... you... can) and guess what will happen with dc...which has no stun resist....tada..stun...MA will not guarantee u will not be stunned but it gives you stun resist..so yeah you will wear MA if you know how to use your brain.
Also like gm said..what animation do you see with 4k casting speed?..also what kind of mutant will get to 4k casting speed?..i mean basic casting speed is around 500..and you reach to 4k? ...8 times more...now that was an unbalanced and bugged server.
Can you read, i no write abaout 4k cast
Yes i talking abaout pvp on full buff, so i will be full buffed every pvp, so ??
Idi, you stop crying cuz you write about nothing, just complain
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 06:12:46 PM
Can you read, i no write abaout 4k cast
Yes i talking abaout pvp on full buff, so i will be full buffed every pvp, so ??
Idi, you stop crying cuz you write about nothing, just complain
stop crying? Just complain? What?! Hahha! And its igi.
OF of....you don't even know what you write in your post, let me show you a quote(that you can see below) and by quoting that it means you agree with everithing he wrote there..you even said +1..or i'm blind?..true u didn't write that but you quoted and agreed to that statement, and since you selected the 4k cast speed as well i guess you agreed with that part of the statement also(btw you can select which part of the post to quote if u didn't know)
O and here is your quote...that u posted:
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 06:04:54 PM
+1 MAN
THERE WAS NO cast cap
But now the GMs want make Cast cap
And when you are smart and make your cast you will be nerfed to 2.1k like every nuker
EXAMPLE
SPS/EE 5k matk 2.1k cast
SPS/ES 5k matk 2.1k cast on Arcana Agility or no
Necro/xx 7k matk 2.1k cast
SH/xx 9k matk 1.9k cast
It is just example not real stats, but cast no diffrence cuz its blocked and matk diffrence is big
Quote from: Stazy on January 16, 2014, 06:16:16 PM
OF of....you don't even know what you write in your post, let me show you a quote(that you can see below) and by quoting that it means you agree with everithing he wrote there..you even said +1..or i'm blind?..true u didn't write that but you quoted and agreed to that statement, and since you selected the 4k cast speed as well i guess you agreed with that part of the statement also(btw you can select which part of the post to quote if u didn't know)
O and here is your quote...that u posted:
Also,look at the numbers for m.atk that he wrote... Hahaha
Quote from: Stazy on January 16, 2014, 06:16:16 PM
OF of....you don't even know what you write in your post, let me show you a quote(that you can see below) and by quoting that it means you agree with everithing he wrote there..you even said +1..or i'm blind?..true u didn't write that but you quoted and agreed to that statement, and since you selected the 4k cast speed as well i guess you agreed with that part of the statement also(btw you can select which part of the post to quote if u didn't know)
O and here is your quote...that u posted:
Ok
I agreed that there no casting cap on IL, not agreed with stats, my bad
P.S
Igi, number of matk is EXAMPLEa like i wrote. I mean that sh>necro>sps in matk
Quote from: Diabolo on January 16, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
Ok
I agreed that there no casting cap on IL, not agreed with stats, my bad
P.S
Igi, number of matk is EXAMPLEa like i wrote. I mean that sh>necro>sps in matk
Your english is kinda bad to understand. Also your thoughts are hard to understand.
Try to understand something:
SH/PS can reach 2,1k casting speed, using DC set (A grade)
SpS/ES can reach 2,1k casting speed, using Major Arcana (S grade and +17%Matk)
So, there is a balance.
Diabolo may i ask u smth? U rly need 2.1k+ cast speed to play?
Quote from: BrainDamage on January 16, 2014, 06:37:06 PM
Diabolo may i ask u smth? U rly need 2.1k+ cast speed to play?
Quote from: Garn. on January 16, 2014, 01:08:48 PM
are you really complaining about 2,1k max cast and 1,5k max atk speed? seriously?
.
Quote from: BrainDamage on January 16, 2014, 06:37:06 PM
Diabolo may i ask u smth? U rly need 2.1k+ cast speed to play?
No i even no make sps/es.
But this guys dont understand that sps/es make much more than 2.1k and this sub is nerfed, anyway maybe archer patk blocked to 5k, you need more to play???
If the char have some stats i want have this stats
I wanna ask also 1 more think ... how much ppl of you know thaat there is animation cap ... you can have 10k+++++++++++ cast speed and this will mean that you pres hurricane (for an example) and you hit your target 1k times in same second ?
About the animation cap im not sure about the numbers ... but for sure it was way less then 4k :D as ive read at some of the post above :D
For a speed its official cap 1,5k a speed at other chronicles ... and even PR can manage to get 1,5k a speed :D and no 1 cry about that :D
Here at DN is tradition to have river of cry. ;D
I would probably play it again bcs i love my class,and as topic says its not archers that are we questioning here.
Btw, why we need to have op class here? Why some ppl doesent accept balanced gameplay at cost of something...
what ever why do you guys make so much fuss about that, have you had full buffs on tarantula?, you don't even have a char created but you already have dc set, 2.1k casting speed..fullbuff.....al all the good stuff, do you know that you need to get SA on weapons...it will take some time take it easy and take a chill pill.
the freak is this topic?
the game wasn't made for players with 34343 cast, it destroys balance, it's pvp server so the value should be even lower than on offi, taking in account + shared skills from 2 diff classes.
1.5k and 2.1k is pretty much max.