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Title: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: andrzej on January 24, 2014, 03:20:14 PM
Hi I have a question what are the chances% on inputs Blow? the buff? without the buff?   and whether buffs can enhance the chances of input Blow
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Melink on January 27, 2014, 01:36:10 PM
Yes, i fail  8 /10 blows   :(
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Blizzer on January 27, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
Deadly landrade is like 30-40% and backstab can fail from back xD
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: garikUA on January 27, 2014, 04:20:04 PM
Quote from: Blizzer on January 27, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
backstab can fail from back xD

yes its funny but true. any GM's answer?
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: ryhoo on January 27, 2014, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: Blizzer on January 27, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
Deadly landrade is like 30-40% and backstab can fail from back xD
+1
Gm want kill dagger class like they did on Dragon?
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: ^Evacuate^ on January 27, 2014, 04:44:56 PM
we did not nerfed nor touched clean dagger class.
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Blizzer on January 27, 2014, 06:44:30 PM
We should be happy then? that even backstab fails from back ffs.
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 27, 2014, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Blizzer on January 27, 2014, 06:44:30 PM
We should be happy then? that even backstab fails from back ffs.
He wants to say if we didnt touched it , it means it works as it should.
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: sametana on January 27, 2014, 07:10:55 PM
Maybe it is as it should be, but with this High to Sky enchant rate you overpowered Mages, they are like 30-40% with homonuculus +13-14...
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Blizzer on January 27, 2014, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 27, 2014, 06:53:12 PM
He wants to say if we didnt touched it , it means it works as it should.
Fail on backstab from behind isn't as it should, definitely.
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: ryhoo on January 27, 2014, 08:53:26 PM
whole mana spent on blows and not a single one landed (mob same lvl as me) isnt as it should too. And it wasnt 1 time, blow land rate just sux
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 27, 2014, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: ryhoo on January 27, 2014, 08:53:26 PM
whole mana spent on blows and not a single one landed (mob same lvl as me) isnt as it should too. And it wasnt 1 time, blow land rate just sux
I was talking about pvp dang -.-
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Blizzer on January 27, 2014, 11:11:13 PM
You think on pvp blows land? 2 blows landed, then beautiful blue msg 'NO MANA' and in the meantime orange 'backstab failed' on back xD
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: garikUA on January 27, 2014, 11:49:21 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 27, 2014, 06:53:12 PM
He wants to say if we didnt touched it , it means it works as it should.

if you didnt touched it , it NOT means it works as it should, coz its may be bugged at start
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Peorexo on January 27, 2014, 11:55:37 PM
Quote from: garikUA on January 27, 2014, 11:49:21 PM
if you didnt touched it , it NOT means it works as it should, coz its may be bugged at start
hi shock blast lv77 not landing on 60lv boxes
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: garikUA on January 28, 2014, 12:03:06 AM
Quote from: Peorexo on January 27, 2014, 11:55:37 PM
hi shock blast lv77 not landing on 60lv boxes

ty for very important info :) but we talk here about backstab - it should 100% land from back but its not
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Peorexo on January 28, 2014, 12:07:09 AM
Quote from: garikUA on January 28, 2014, 12:03:06 AM
ty for very important info :) but we talk here about backstab - it should 100% land from back but its not
I know, just saying that how it works w/o open beta, so many qq topics
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Blizzer on January 28, 2014, 10:39:32 AM
So again 'we didn't touch anything, go play mage' or you will do something with this matter?
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Sunico on January 28, 2014, 11:47:07 AM
Mhhh... I should have somewere some test file madre in old c4
(Demon+mortal vs as+cd vs dye + / - dex)
If any dagger want to test & compare i can share...

But i doubt it could be useful now
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: V3NOM on January 29, 2014, 04:20:11 PM
There is a serious problem with blows land rate (especially backstab). GM please can u check it? Im sure all dagger classes will appreciate this.
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Melink on February 03, 2014, 03:58:07 PM
plis fixed daguers...
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on February 03, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
Quote from: Melink on February 03, 2014, 03:58:07 PM
plis fixed daguers...
Boost or fix? Because there is nothing to fix there...
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: zocha on February 03, 2014, 05:08:02 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 03, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
Boost or fix? Because there is nothing to fix there...
we can nerf , so we can boost  :D
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: irianus on February 03, 2014, 07:20:42 PM
i m elf dager and  fail backstab from behind 4/10 or less no cry but us true... back stab from behind is 100% rate???
i know dager skill can fail np...  but  i use 4 or 5 skill on moob and fail... only ask
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: bsrealm on February 04, 2014, 12:15:39 PM
Quote from: Falatko on February 03, 2014, 07:31:25 PM
friend is PW and we did 3 duels he landed 7/8 blows during PVP and he land like 90% of backstabs to mobs while he farm maybe do higher lvl than 40 and then come complain

DO NOT USE BACKSTAB from FRONT

My friend is PW and we did 5 duels and he landed 2/8 blows during PVP and he land like 20% of backstabs to mobs while he farm maybe do higher lvl than 40 and then come complain
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Csenky on February 05, 2014, 02:12:59 AM
Whining on land rate is like whining on craft. I failed 3/3 tpa, someone crafted 3/3 dc gloves. So what? You can fail 90 out of 100 hits, it still doesn't mean it's 10% success rate, it's just a trash serie for you, someone else made the opposite meanwhile, somewhere else. I had 17 misses on a mob in a row, which I farmed for 7 hours, and didn't miss more than 1 out of 20 times usually. Calculate the chance of that.

Gear up, get your DYEs and Tattoos, put 2 months of playtime into the character, and then put here something constructive, based on experience.
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Blizzer on February 05, 2014, 10:18:19 AM
Comparing melee hits to skills? Use double shot, tell me how many 'double shot failed aka 0 damage' you'll get. Same for triple slash, hydro blast etc. Of course like 100% landrate was only in C3 with daggers+mm but 60% would do the work here. WTF I'm supposed to be a dagger, skill based class, and build my setup +STR +OE dagger and go for melee hits?
I don't even want to imagine dagger/tank with deflect arrow on  ;D
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: zocha on February 05, 2014, 10:21:21 AM
Archers are op here :D
Wonder where are those qqers that cryed abot archers server
Title: Re: Dagger - Chance % Blow rate
Post by: Peorexo on February 05, 2014, 12:38:30 PM
Quote from: Blizzer on February 05, 2014, 10:18:19 AM
Comparing melee hits to skills? Use double shot, tell me how many 'double shot failed aka 0 damage' you'll get. Same for triple slash, hydro blast etc. Of course like 100% landrate was only in C3 with daggers+mm but 60% would do the work here. WTF I'm supposed to be a dagger, skill based class, and build my setup +STR +OE dagger and go for melee hits?
I don't even want to imagine dagger/tank with deflect arrow on  ;D
would say +5str dagger+50+haste, th/wl and war cry thrill fight gg since blows not landing... was it the reason of nerf war cry cuz skills not landing all using melee? :D