Hello,
Sorry for newb question, but i cant play atm because i have exams:-(
So i see in video section only healer POV movies and i wonder.
Is the Archer class almost useless on 1vs1 vs mage as i think?
(no chp vs mana tattoos - so no bad sides of being mage)
Pls dont asnwer like, depends on player skill. (lets say they are avarage skill)
First weeks archers <mages
Geared archers >geared mages
Best set for mage here is DC and for archer Draconic
And yea it depends on the skill of the players
Quote from: Tvit on February 05, 2014, 02:17:21 PM
Hello,
Sorry for newb question, but i cant play atm because i have exams:-(
So i see in video section only healer POV movies and i wonder.
Is the Archer class almost useless on 1vs1 vs mage as i think?
(no chp vs mana tattoos - so no bad sides of being mage)
Pls dont asnwer like, depends on player skill. (lets say they are avarage skill)
No its not, at this stage of the server ppl run in C grade jewelery thats why u cant see Archers pvping. Besides most of the ppl went EASY way and made nukers. As a nuker u can do anything in DC robe and homu + acu + x = easy, as fighter you need better gear and its harder to get it. But trust me archers arent useless.
Then it depends on the gear.
And no, i ain't sarcastic, just wait till ppl get TTS.
In conclusion later will be much more balanced. (Ofc if you put a BR against a monkey that can push 3 buttons he will still loose.)
Edit: 2 replies already, :l
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
No its not, at this stage of the server ppl run in C grade jewelery thats why u cant see Archers pvping. Besides most of the ppl went EASY way and made nukers. As a nuker u can do anything in DC robe and homu + acu + x = easy, as fighter you need better gear and its harder to get it. But trust me archers arent useless.
i went hardest way, tank :-[
Quote from: Garn. on February 05, 2014, 03:32:04 PM
i went hardest way, tank :-[
Well thats the hardest way on such server, tbh it would be easier to start with any other class and stacksub tank but wish u best luck :>
Quote from: Tvit on February 05, 2014, 02:17:21 PM
Hello,
Sorry for newb question, but i cant play atm because i have exams:-(
So i see in video section only healer POV movies and i wonder.
Is the Archer class almost useless on 1vs1 vs mage as i think?
(no chp vs mana tattoos - so no bad sides of being mage)
Pls dont asnwer like, depends on player skill. (lets say they are avarage skill)
Ummm well archer rly never had chance 1 vs 1 with nuker...
Without full buff archers suck balls so u need bd sws wk wc pp so to have chances u must play at lkeast 5 vs 5... and yea then archers are preety strong :)
However in my opinion doesnt rly matter what buffs/gear u will have at the end cuz without m crit rate limit to max 10-30% nukers will screw u badly...
And rly guys dont tell about here is only dc set cuz with this enchant rate make full set +10+ aint so big problem and benefits of p def on full buff is insane :]
Quote from: thepal on February 05, 2014, 03:36:52 PM
Ummm well archer rly never had chance 1 vs 1 with nuker...
Without full buff archers suck balls so u need bd sws wk wc pp so to have chances u must play at lkeast 5 vs 5... and yea then archers are preety strong :)
Well if nuker will strike first in one vs one archer will drop fast in 1v1 its all about good tactic :P full buffed archer vs fully buffed mage - if Archer would have TTS set I would bet my money on him. But all in all its about skill.
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 03:42:45 PM
Well if nuker will strike first in one vs one archer will drop fast in 1v1 its all about good tactic :P full buffed archer vs fully buffed mage - if Archer would have TTS set I would bet my money on him. But all in all its about skill.
also resists from pp which give % in defense...
mages can still enjoy this early phase of server but later... xd
Quote from: stanko on February 05, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
also resists from pp which give % in defense...
mages can still enjoy this early phase of server but later... xd
Later - stuck subs = more funn :D 1v1 pvps are cool but true fun starts in x vs x.
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
No its not, at this stage of the server ppl run in C grade jewelery thats why u cant see Archers pvping. Besides most of the ppl went EASY way and made nukers. As a nuker u can do anything in DC robe and homu + acu + x = easy, as fighter you need better gear and its harder to get it. But trust me archers arent useless.
i have c-grade jwls +7-8 all, which is fine againts mages lul u dont need tt that early when eac is so cheap
Quote from: stanko on February 05, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
also resists from pp which give % in defense...
mages can still enjoy this early phase of server but later... xd
Ye.. only elemental work.. all resists get removed by surrenders so are kinda useless...
Mages > Archers on first months.
After some months, having Baium, AQ, Full buffs, etc. Archers pt > Mage pt.
But I believe in balance :)
Ofc, if you're an idiot like Saintly, being archer, or being nuker, you will lose anyways. Then better go as healer, or maybe tank.
U can go nuker early and later u can take archer since You can have up to 4 dnsub in one char.
Quote from: lNecropsy on February 05, 2014, 05:33:48 PM
Mages > Archers on first months.
After some months, having Baium, AQ, Full buffs, etc. Archers pt > Mage pt.
But I believe in balance :)
Ofc, if you're an idiot like Saintly, being archer, or being nuker, you will lose anyways. Then better go as healer, or maybe tank.
Aren't u busy begging for adena/dying to everyone scurBR? back to work. :3
Quote from: Saintly on February 05, 2014, 06:37:09 PM
Aren't u busy begging for adena/dying to everyone scurBR? back to work. :3
I have to remind you to respect rules and others on these pages. Consider this as warning.
Thank you
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 06:39:32 PM
I have to remind you to reosect rules and others on these pages. Cinsider this as warning.
Thank you
I'll "sincider" this, but let me "cincider" in return to have a chat with that dumbshit Artur, banning ppl's farming chars can make ur topic go "poof" on PMFun. :3
Quote from: Saintly on February 05, 2014, 06:45:22 PM
I'll "sincider" this, but let me "cincider" in return to have a chat with that dumbshit Artur, banning ppl's farming chars can make ur topic go "poof" on PMFun. :3
This is warning #2 regarding insulting staff. Behave or stop posting.
Thank you
Then maybe u should warn that dipshit to stop watching my pt 24/7. ^_-
Quote from: Saintly on February 05, 2014, 06:53:30 PM
Then maybe u should warn that dipshit to stop watching my pt 24/7. ^_-
Lol whit your signature...
Guys, thank you all for replies!
...But i have felling like i wasn`t Understood.
So, I meant the situatuion like this: archer and mage exping solo... (lets say they got pp buffs and obiously mage got emp, pls dont ask me why).
And its the "thing". Lets say he/wl (or he/wk) vs sps/ee, the archer wouldn`t be able to make a real danger at all:-(
I mean the healers and tank subs give much bigger profits to mages than any sub gives fighter.
I know on fullbuffs its other thing, but u dont play fullbuffed all the time... (and i have felling like GMs made all the updates/nerfs on skills in case of fullbuffs).
Quote from: Saintly on February 05, 2014, 06:53:30 PM
Then maybe u should warn that dipshit to stop watching my pt 24/7. ^_-
I am sure , he have big reason for it. And i fully support him to do so, same as every other suspicious party. And stop calling people names which includes staff as well.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 07:19:29 PM
I am sure , he have big reason for it. And i fully support him to do so, same as every other suspicious party. And stop calling people names which includes staff as well.
I could make a joke about his reason & his IQ but since u have the patience to still answer me in a such a polite way & since someone who gone "asshole mode on siege" asked me to show you some respect ill just stop it here.
Quote from: Saintly on February 05, 2014, 07:43:44 PM
I could make a joke about his reason & his IQ but since u have the patience to still answer me in a such a polite way & since someone who gone "asshole mode on siege" asked me to show you some respect ill just stop it here.
Also 1 more rather personal matter, for the person who passed trough mentioned disease in your signature, can you be so kind and remove such statement, i find it very rude and insultive.
Thank you
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 07:48:01 PM
Also 1 more rather personal matter, for the person who passed trough mentioned disease in your signature, can you be so kind and remove such statement, i find it very rude and insultive.
Thank you
Well, even i can respect such a request, done.
Quote from: Tvit on February 05, 2014, 07:03:48 PM
Guys, thank you all for replies!
...But i have felling like i wasn`t Understood.
So, I meant the situatuion like this: archer and mage exping solo... (lets say they got pp buffs and obiously mage got emp, pls dont ask me why).
And its the "thing". Lets say he/wl (or he/wk) vs sps/ee, the archer wouldn`t be able to make a real danger at all:-(
I mean the healers and tank subs give much bigger profits to mages than any sub gives fighter.
I know on fullbuffs its other thing, but u dont play fullbuffed all the time... (and i have felling like GMs made all the updates/nerfs on skills in case of fullbuffs).
that deppends of player's skill, also 1vs1 is mostly about luck , and yea a he/wl can be some danger for a mage since he can keep u perma stunned.
Quote from: N3bz on February 06, 2014, 12:01:22 PM
he/wl can be some danger for a mage since he can keep u perma stunned.
good joke, im 79wl, none of stuns landing if ur higher than lv60, gg
wow man I love this country.....
(http://p.twimg.com/AzJj2ntCUAA-ADp.jpg:large)
Quote from: Peorexo on February 06, 2014, 01:36:23 PM
good joke, im 79wl, none of stuns landing if ur higher than lv60, gg
Gimbaza is back :)
Quote from: Tvit on February 05, 2014, 02:17:21 PM
Hello,
Sorry for newb question, but i cant play atm because i have exams:-(
So i see in video section only healer POV movies and i wonder.
Is the Archer class almost useless on 1vs1 vs mage as i think?
(no chp vs mana tattoos - so no bad sides of being mage)
Pls dont asnwer like, depends on player skill. (lets say they are avarage skill)
What does POV means?
Quote from: Sanguchesco on February 07, 2014, 08:01:45 AM
What does POV means?
Point of view. wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_view)