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Title: RB Random Windows
Post by: Tyler on February 11, 2014, 02:32:50 PM
Baium [75]    2014/02/07 21:12   168hour (+/-48hour)

Is this really how it works? This means Baium has a 96 Hour Window ?

When.. when.. when ...should we setup camp? The beginning, the middle, or at the end of the 96 hours? I need a hint ??? ???

This is just anexample. All Epic RB's windows seem outrageous to me.
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: pmkaboo on February 11, 2014, 02:41:59 PM
welcome to lineage 2.
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: Dalkanan on February 11, 2014, 02:42:28 PM
+1
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: hebdzik on February 11, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
well you have to be nolifer and start camp it from 5th day after dead that is 120h and than sit in TOI 13 for next 2 days (48h) because it can spawn.
when L2 started (so like 8 years ago) respawns like that was good because every one had chance to make this epic. But nowdays when people who play on this IL server are in 50% or mby even more "old members" from DN, they have now family, kids, work etc, cant organize at 10 am having 40+ online to kill pvp for Baium, Valakas. Look on Zaken, we have 2k people playing on this server, and people cant organize chars to make Zaken.
GM think if he makes +- 10, +-20, +-50 will give same arithmetic number in eventually and all in all respawn will be same like this RB will have +-4h.
here you have example what i say:
LOOKING FOR OLD FRIENDS (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,280638.msg0.html#new)
Fatalillusion  (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,278708.0.html)
Old player from dragon 15x  (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,278683.0.html)
2end  (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,278497.0.html)
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: pmkaboo on February 11, 2014, 05:23:59 PM
Quote from: hebdzik on February 11, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
well you have to be nolifer
you always had to be a nolifer to achieve anything in this game at the same time as other nolifers. what only makes sense if you think about it for a while.

asking to be able to get one of the first baiums of the server if you cant make a 4day camp is just ridiculous imo. also if you cant make a 4day camp you cant have baium, its simple as that, youll have to farm some gold and buy it later when people who are able to make the camp get enough rings for themselves and start selling them. i dont really see a problem here.

also what was the shit you were saying about having family and responsibilities? why on earth would you start playing l2 - one of the most time consuming games out there - when you have little to no spare time? especially as a old player you must have known about the epic respawn windows =  you knew exactly there will be few days long random window on baium before even telling your friends about this server, or as soon as you heard about it. still, you started playing, and now that you came to a point where you would be able to get baium, but dont have the time, you ask for changes... what the actual freak?
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: Garden on February 11, 2014, 09:00:00 PM
Quote from: pmkaboo on February 11, 2014, 05:23:59 PM
you always had to be a nolifer to achieve anything in this game at the same time as other nolifers. what only makes sense if you think about it for a while.

asking to be able to get one of the first baiums of the server if you cant make a 4day camp is just ridiculous imo. also if you cant make a 4day camp you cant have baium, its simple as that, youll have to farm some gold and buy it later when people who are able to make the camp get enough rings for themselves and start selling them. i dont really see a problem here.

also what was the shit you were saying about having family and responsibilities? why on earth would you start playing l2 - one of the most time consuming games out there - when you have little to no spare time? especially as a old player you must have known about the epic respawn windows =  you knew exactly there will be few days long random window on baium before even telling your friends about this server, or as soon as you heard about it. still, you started playing, and now that you came to a point where you would be able to get baium, but dont have the time, you ask for changes... what the actual freak?

man get a life istand of being nolifer :) rb's have to high respawn window and its true ;)
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: djvancho on February 11, 2014, 10:30:27 PM
Queen Ant [40]   36hour (+/-17hour) for example spawn always at same time probably. I think this info is not so true or if its true, don't work how it must. Lf gm answer.
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: blblblblblbl on February 11, 2014, 10:38:51 PM
serious i'm gonna never understand this +/- crap respawn

baium is 168h +/- 48h so is 120h +96h, hahahaha this is something new for me

ps. pmkaboo looks like you are new in L2
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: ZeniT on February 12, 2014, 12:11:18 AM
these windows are fine. official stats.
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: Teqi on February 12, 2014, 12:57:55 AM
Quote from: blblblblblbl on February 11, 2014, 10:38:51 PM
serious i'm gonna never understand this +/- crap respawn

baium is 168h +/- 48h so is 120h +96h, hahahaha this is something new for me

ps. pmkaboo looks like you are new in L2

Baium: 5d (+8h) [respawn=168hour;respawn_rand=4 8hour]
Barakiel: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]
Zaken: 40h (+8h) [respawn=60hour;respawn_rand=20 hour]

and so on
retail settings, as I see.. and it works like that
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: hebdzik on February 12, 2014, 08:02:43 AM
Quote from: pmkaboo on February 11, 2014, 05:23:59 PM
you always had to be a nolifer to achieve anything in this game at the same time as other nolifers. what only makes sense if you think about it for a while.

asking to be able to get one of the first baiums of the server if you cant make a 4day camp is just ridiculous imo. also if you cant make a 4day camp you cant have baium, its simple as that, youll have to farm some gold and buy it later when people who are able to make the camp get enough rings for themselves and start selling them. i dont really see a problem here.

also what was the shit you were saying about having family and responsibilities? why on earth would you start playing l2 - one of the most time consuming games out there - when you have little to no spare time? especially as a old player you must have known about the epic respawn windows =  you knew exactly there will be few days long random window on baium before even telling your friends about this server, or as soon as you heard about it. still, you started playing, and now that you came to a point where you would be able to get baium, but dont have the time, you ask for changes... what the actual freak?
so all those people who have real life cant play l2? And as it goes for me when i started play here i didn't know about respawn time because web wasn't working for Tarantula. Coming back to baium, you think target of this game is killing only Baium? Add Valakas, Antharas, Baium, Zaken with those respawns and tell me how you want kill them? you are probably 78 lvl nuker who made homu+++ and think you can rule the server thinking that all others who are low lvl are noobs and they shouldn't play l2 to take care real life.
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: blblblblblbl on February 12, 2014, 12:09:04 PM
Quote from: teqi on February 12, 2014, 12:57:55 AM
Baium: 5d (+8h)
Barakiel: 12h (+8h)
Zaken: 40h (+8h)

and so on
retail settings, as I see.. and it works like that
this
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: Naiz on February 12, 2014, 10:53:17 PM
These random spawn times are hilarious.
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on February 12, 2014, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: Sokrates on February 12, 2014, 10:53:17 PM
These random spawn times are hilarious.
Not made by us...
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: nbx on February 12, 2014, 11:12:27 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 12, 2014, 11:02:02 PM
Not made by us...

Well, all I want to know, is if the 4 days random window is actually the used value or not. I'm fine with it, but if it's the real value, I better go to sleep.
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: Painkiler on February 12, 2014, 11:18:45 PM
I would say that change to -+8h to all bosses(w/o vala/anth/frintezza) will enhance the gameplay, since there will be more pvp for the bosses, as ppl will camp them harder. Now it's just 90% of time 1 char per clan usually to check every 20-30min.
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: sm0g on February 12, 2014, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 12, 2014, 11:02:02 PM
Not made by us...

So the spawn time is like official ( Baium: 5d (+8h)) or its a custom one(168hour (+/-48hour))??
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: nbx on February 12, 2014, 11:28:56 PM
Quote from: Painkiler on February 12, 2014, 11:18:45 PM
I would say that change to -+8h to all bosses(w/o vala/anth/frintezza) will enhance the gameplay, since there will be more pvp for the bosses, as ppl will camp them harder. Now it's just 90% of time 1 char per clan usually to check every 20-30min.

Well yeah, this way more clan has the chance to kill these bosses, but it pretty much kills the pvp, because it's all about who has enough people to kill it at the time it spanws. There is no way any clan can organize a 4 day long camp.

Anyway, I'm okay with it, all I want is a gm to say "yes, it is the current live value", because it seems a bit iffy.
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: =drake= on February 13, 2014, 12:31:34 AM
Quote from: Painkiler on February 12, 2014, 11:18:45 PM
I would say that change to -+8h to all bosses(w/o vala/anth/frintezza) will enhance the gameplay, since there will be more pvp for the bosses, as ppl will camp them harder. Now it's just 90% of time 1 char per clan usually to check every 20-30min.

Players Data related to Bosses is updated every few minutes (10 minutes if i'm not wrong).

Alternatively we could do the same thing i did for Golkondas... automatic announce when spawn happens :)
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: Demich on February 13, 2014, 12:44:14 AM
Quote from: =drake= on February 13, 2014, 12:31:34 AM
Players Data related to Bosses is updated every few minutes (10 minutes if i'm not wrong).

Alternatively we could do the same thing i did for Golkondas... automatic announce when spawn happens :)

Drake are you serious? Ppl ask why window is so epic not asking you if they can check in website or to wait auto announce. If ppl can't camp epics whats the point of them? If window is 8hours - clan pvps will be more. Now some clans put cameras on clickers and just wait, whats the point you destoyed whole pvp. And this info in site is not real if you ask me. Ant queen spawn almost at same time every single day. All answers that GM staff give are pathetic...
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: DioX3n on February 13, 2014, 12:49:19 AM
Quote from: =drake= on February 13, 2014, 12:31:34 AM
Players Data related to Bosses is updated every few minutes (10 minutes if i'm not wrong).

Alternatively we could do the same thing i did for Golkondas... automatic announce when spawn happens :)

its just joke right???? for get fu cking baium to quest i need to camp 4 DAYS??????
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: =drake= on February 13, 2014, 02:35:52 AM
We are already discussing about this matter internally, for sure there will be changes but i cant announce it yet until we decide fully.

(for sure baium window will be reduced)
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: Teqi on February 13, 2014, 11:00:52 AM
well Baium spawned before 8h window ended so there is no 4days camp and crap like these few days random respawn theories
It's on retail setting, however it would be nice if you could do something about it, like some other networks did, for instance: reducing epic raids random 8h windows to 4hour or 2hour
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: djvancho on February 13, 2014, 12:40:13 PM
Best pvp are made when window is short, so make it +4 not +-4 just +4 window and all will be happy.
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: ZeniT on February 13, 2014, 12:41:26 PM
This is from pmfun forum. Stop QQ about nothing. Respawntime here is same like retail.

Baium: 5d (+8h) [respawn=168hour;respawn_rand=4 8hour]
Barakiel: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]

Kernon: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]
Longhorn Golkonda: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]
Death Lord Hallate: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]
Shilliend Messenger Cabrio: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]

Zaken: 40h (+8h) [respawn=60hour;respawn_rand=20 hour]
Ant Queen: 19h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=17 hour]
Core: 37h (+8h) [respawn=60hour;respawn_rand=23 hour]
Orfen: 28h (+8h) [respawn=48hour;respawn_rand=20 hour]

Antharas: 8d (+8h) [respawn=264hour;respawn_rand=7 2hour]
Valakas: 8d (+8h) / 11d (+8h) [respawn=264hour;respawn_rand=7 2hour]
Frintezza: 44h (+8h) [respawn=48hour;respawn_rand=4h our]

it is whit coded spawns from codes u can see that spawns can delay wery wery long. i can tell u how i think(alot of ppl think that it works liek that 2)


ect. baium spawn starts, server trys to spawn baium it has liek 0.01% chance to spawn if server fails, it waits lets sai 10 sec and trys to spawn baium agen just chance was increased lets sai 0.02% now and evry 10 secs server trys to spawn whti giht chance rate witch means it usualy dont pass 8hour time coz chance goes big and evry 10 secs server trys and succydes, it goes till chances is 100% (end of posible random spawn time) and baium spawns like i siad all thin kits 8h coz it usualy never passes it (but i rimember o nteon one time it passed almsot 10 hours till it spawned.)


also we dont know maiby deep in sorce code they got some algoritmes 2 but only ncsoft knows
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: nbx on February 13, 2014, 06:16:44 PM
Quotewell Baium spawned before 8h window ended so there is no 4days camp and crap like these few days random respawn theories

There is absolutely no logic in what you said though. You just pissed basic math in the eye. :D
Title: Re: RB Random Windows
Post by: blblblblblbl on February 13, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: ZeniT on February 13, 2014, 12:41:26 PM
This is from pmfun forum. Stop QQ about nothing. Respawntime here is same like retail.

Baium: 5d (+8h) [respawn=168hour;respawn_rand=4 8hour]
Barakiel: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]

Kernon: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]
Longhorn Golkonda: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]
Death Lord Hallate: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]
Shilliend Messenger Cabrio: 12h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=24 hour]

Zaken: 40h (+8h) [respawn=60hour;respawn_rand=20 hour]
Ant Queen: 19h (+8h) [respawn=36hour;respawn_rand=17 hour]
Core: 37h (+8h) [respawn=60hour;respawn_rand=23 hour]
Orfen: 28h (+8h) [respawn=48hour;respawn_rand=20 hour]

Antharas: 8d (+8h) [respawn=264hour;respawn_rand=7 2hour]
Valakas: 8d (+8h) / 11d (+8h) [respawn=264hour;respawn_rand=7 2hour]
Frintezza: 44h (+8h) [respawn=48hour;respawn_rand=4h our]

it is whit coded spawns from codes u can see that spawns can delay wery wery long. i can tell u how i think(alot of ppl think that it works liek that 2)


ect. baium spawn starts, server trys to spawn baium it has liek 0.01% chance to spawn if server fails, it waits lets sai 10 sec and trys to spawn baium agen just chance was increased lets sai 0.02% now and evry 10 secs server trys to spawn whti giht chance rate witch means it usualy dont pass 8hour time coz chance goes big and evry 10 secs server trys and succydes, it goes till chances is 100% (end of posible random spawn time) and baium spawns like i siad all thin kits 8h coz it usualy never passes it (but i rimember o nteon one time it passed almsot 10 hours till it spawned.)


also we dont know maiby deep in sorce code they got some algoritmes 2 but only ncsoft knows
dude stop checking this forum... 70% people there never played on official or official like ( private ) server