Quite absurd, we were there 5mins, every1 3rd classed, 2 bishops(1 nobless), 2 EEs, 2 nukers, 1 sws,1bd,1OL and we couldnt last longer on trains then 5min without full lethals from mobs.
You call one group, half PI agroes. Dont care much about that, but full lethals that regulary aren't for sure normal :)
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 18, 2014, 04:06:44 AM
Quite absurd, we were there 5mins, every1 3rd classed, 2 bishops(1 nobless), 2 EEs, 2 nukers, 1 sws,1bd,1OL and we couldnt last longer on trains then 5min without full lethals from mobs.
You call one group, half PI agroes. Dont care much about that, but full lethals that regulary aren't for sure normal :)
Yeah the insane agro range is really annoying since PI isnt designed for stacking mobs in a place with aoe/pole , and thats what happen when you hit any mob.
Yea man, its insane the mobs lethal rate, played on a few servers and never seen such thing. Take a look at it please !!
PI in ok, this is TOP location in Interlude, so is not mean to be easy ...
And is farmable atm so ...
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 18, 2014, 04:06:44 AM
Quite absurd, we were there 5mins, every1 3rd classed, 2 bishops(1 nobless), 2 EEs, 2 nukers, 1 sws,1bd,1OL and we couldnt last longer on trains then 5min without full lethals from mobs.
You call one group, half PI agroes. Dont care much about that, but full lethals that regulary aren't for sure normal :)
u have everywhere 80lv? i guess no, mobs are above 80lv and their skill will have higher lethal rate on u unless ur 80's
Quote from: djvancho on February 18, 2014, 09:40:26 AM
PI in ok, this is TOP location in Interlude, so is not mean to be easy ...
And is farmable atm so ...
+1
I think its working fine
Quote from: djvancho on February 18, 2014, 09:40:26 AM
PI in ok, this is TOP location in Interlude, so is not mean to be easy ...
And is farmable atm so ...
You get more exp in FOG then PI. Noone goes to PI unless u have nobless cause its useless. Another dead area with bugged lethal..
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 18, 2014, 12:23:01 PM
You get more exp in FOG then PI. Noone goes to PI unless u have nobless cause its useless. Another dead area with bugged lethal..
Yesterday I was in PI and we didnt have a big problem, yes we got lethals from mobs but we handle it easy
p.s. Your party setup is wrong.
its all good chill chill i got this
PI is ok? Gotta be joking me... You can not train there. I remember doing trains on l2off servers without any problem in mage partys from level 76+. I do not recall any full lethal but it could have happened. I was getting CP lethals almost every train but not HP lethals. Quite hilarious mobs have more lethal rate then players.
Quote from: igi on February 18, 2014, 12:29:40 PM
Yesterday I was in PI and we didnt have a big problem, yes we got lethals from mobs but we handle it easy
p.s. Your party setup is wrong.
Tell me why wise guy:) Aw wait your the same one that says TU is perfectly fine compared to retail, where here u cant even lethal on 74. Refrain from replying please:) Also, it seems by ur reply that you are calling mobs, hiding on safe zone and go back to kill group by group. Not doing trains, as PI si itended for. And if u didnt got 10 lethals in under 3min, means you aren't training like PI is made for. Nice exp and low adena.
Quote from: Clonage on February 18, 2014, 02:04:41 PM
PI is ok? Gotta be joking me... You can not train there. I remember doing trains on l2off servers without any problem in mage partys from level 76+. I do not recall any full lethal but it could have happened. I was getting CP lethals almost every train but not HP lethals. Quite hilarious mobs have more lethal rate then players.
If u cant do something doesnt mean is not possible, i am from mage cp constantly farm PI since long time ago.Not like we dont die but is farmable like i said.
You say that cuz ur not a tank. And probably never played as one. Reroll as tank and try to exp in PI.
Quote from: djvancho on February 18, 2014, 02:57:51 PM
If u cant do something doesnt mean is not possible, i am from mage cp constantly farm PI since long time ago.Not like we dont die but is farmable like i said.
The thing is that moobs are not working like they should, its not like we cant farm. Not saying they shouldnt lethal but its way too much, not even 5m there and it was like 7 or 8 full lethals. In the whole time i been in PI in all servers i played i never got 7 or 8 full lethals. You see the difference?
If they were working like they should no1 would die once, now like they are soon or late someone dies.
Quote from: PunkeD on February 18, 2014, 03:33:00 PM
The thing is that moobs are not working like they should, its not like we cant farm. Not saying they shouldnt lethal but its way too much, not even 5m there and it was like 7 or 8 full lethals. In the whole time i been in PI in all servers i played i never got 7 or 8 full lethals. You see the difference?
If they were working like they should no1 would die once, now like they are soon or late someone dies.
Ask yourself why gamedeveloper will put skill that is not usefull? I am talking for your variant when none dies ...
Like i said this is TOP location for interlude is not made to be farmed easy on low lvl without nobles, items.
Quote from: djvancho on February 18, 2014, 03:57:24 PM
Ask yourself why gamedeveloper will put skill that is not usefull? I am talking for your variant when none dies ...
Like i said this is TOP location for interlude is not made to be farmed easy on low lvl without nobles, items.
So your saying that Drgreen and Demich are lows? Ok:) if you don't know, we were with them:)
Quote from: Clonage on February 18, 2014, 03:08:22 PM
You say that cuz ur not a tank. And probably never played as one. Reroll as tank and try to exp in PI.
u're kidding i guess.....
Why should i be kidding? Isnt it part of l2?? Your comment is a joke. Theres very few places where tanks are needed. PI useless, mos useless, pagans useless. The only place right now where tank is usefull is fog and even there u can manage to aoe farm w/o a tank. OL is doing everything better then tanks. In pi the case is even worse for tanks. Dont come with "kidding" bullshits if you dont have a clue about tanks.
Eh sadly i dont have il screenshot from nightmare times, i had several screens when i trained with ty/de and on 1 train i got sysmsg spammed with 6-7 Lethal Strike!~msgs, and that was full one 100%=1hp =)
Quote from: Clonage on February 18, 2014, 04:28:10 PM
Why should i be kidding? Isnt it part of l2?? Your comment is a joke. Theres very few places where tanks are needed. PI useless, mos useless, pagans useless. The only place right now where tank is usefull is fog and even there u can manage to aoe farm w/o a tank. OL is doing everything better then tanks. In pi the case is even worse for tanks. Dont come with "kidding" bullshits if you dont have a clue about tanks.
you didnt get it. my quote was on "try to exp a tank" and it was ironic. now it's simply impossible, and i'm lucky that i am almost 77 (SK).
Same way GM checked retail Raid Boss's spawn, can you check PI mobs lethal rate please? Pretty sure it wont be the same but i can be wrong.
Quote from: Falatko on February 18, 2014, 08:02:09 PM
Oh boy, u missed everything, this is StackSub interlude, so clean tank without sub is most useless char, why the fvck do u expect that you will be tanking trains for mage pt? ROFL never used fvcking tanking in training PI or FOG with mage party, there is BD SWS to do it and OL later to root and debuff mobs :D fvck logic get a Paladin to pt and lets waste one more slot
Love guys like you, thats exactly why L2 is so easy to play PvP nowadays, such easy frags :)
Quote from: Falatko on February 18, 2014, 08:02:09 PM
Oh boy, u missed everything, this is StackSub interlude, so clean tank without sub is most useless char, why the fvck do u expect that you will be tanking trains for mage pt? ROFL never used fvcking tanking in training PI or FOG with mage party, there is BD SWS to do it and OL later to root and debuff mobs :D fvck logic get a Paladin to pt and lets waste one more slot
I agree with you that Pure tank is not that good in substack but the way it is right now tanks are even more useless because of Indirect nerfs + random "interlude" features.
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 18, 2014, 12:23:01 PM
You get more exp in FOG then PI. Noone goes to PI unless u have nobless cause its useless. Another dead area with bugged lethal..
FOG better exp than PI? on what java did you play before?
Quote from: SizeMatters on February 18, 2014, 10:13:15 PM
FOG better exp than PI? on what java did you play before?
You should read everything that I write before you post. As it is CURRENTLY, if you don't got nobless, I bet my entire progress of this server untill now that you cannot make the same exp in PI as I make on FOG with only 5 people.
Ofc I know PI = EXP and less adena, FOG more adena/weps rec and less exp. But as it is now, not really worth the time waste without a noblesser.
Can any GM look at it? And tell us if its retail style, should work like this ? Thanks
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 19, 2014, 02:35:11 AM
You should read everything that I write before you post. As it is CURRENTLY, if you don't got nobless, I bet my entire progress of this server untill now that you cannot make the same exp in PI as I make on FOG with only 5 people.
Ofc I know PI = EXP and less adena, FOG more adena/weps rec and less exp. But as it is now, not really worth the time waste without a noblesser.
Now its fine.
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 18, 2014, 04:03:19 PM
So your saying that Drgreen and Demich are lows? Ok:) if you don't know, we were with them:)
I know how are they since i am in this CP, ask Demich how many % he made on PI and when he start farm it, after that u will know that all is normal like it should be.
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 18, 2014, 02:08:30 PM
Tell me why wise guy:) Aw wait your the same one that says TU is perfectly fine compared to retail, where here u cant even lethal on 74. Refrain from replying please:) Also, it seems by ur reply that you are calling mobs, hiding on safe zone and go back to kill group by group. Not doing trains, as PI si itended for. And if u didnt got 10 lethals in under 3min, means you aren't training like PI is made for. Nice exp and low adena.
TU works on 74vl ure just too noob to know how to use it,
And yes we do trains in PI and we dont get 10 lethals in under 3 min... actually we get 2-3 deaths max in buff round (sometimes not even 1)
Im telling u your party setup is fuked up. Stop crying on forum if u suck at this game...
And for ppl saying that lethal chance is too high..
U should consider that ure not 80vl yet and u drag 20-30 mobs trains thats 20-30 chances to get lethal.. so u should expect some (and by some I mean 2-3-5-10 lethals in buff round) lethals coming up
Stop making QQ topics like
PI so good xp but its hard to xp there :'( Make it easy so we can go with 2 ppl and bot all day...we die all the time :'(
TU not lethaling with every hit :'( Why I cant lethal 80vl x4HP mobs with TU?? QQ I am fuked I have no where to go Im just a little solo bp/ee
Hi Im making 3 chars to farm oly, and I know oly didnt start yet but, I want to QQ cuz of other ppl that will farm oly and I want them to be nerfed.. please nerf subs with healers cuz I wont be able to farm them even though Im pro and I dont have same class as them and it doesnt matter if they farm i can still be hero but I know they will be op I feel it in my pancreas
^
I like this guy.
Quote from: igi on February 19, 2014, 03:28:01 PM
And for ppl saying that lethal chance is too high..
U should consider that ure not 80vl yet and u drag 20-30 mobs trains thats 20-30 chances to get lethal.. so u should expect some (and by some I mean 2-3-5-10 lethals in buff round) lethals coming up
Stop making QQ topics like
PI so good xp but its hard to xp there :'( Make it easy so we can go with 2 ppl and bot all day...we die all the time :'(
TU not lethaling with every hit :'( Why I cant lethal 80vl x4HP mobs with TU?? QQ I am fuked I have no where to go Im just a little solo bp/ee
Hi Im making 3 chars to farm oly, and I know oly didnt start yet but, I want to QQ cuz of other ppl that will farm oly and I want them to be nerfed.. please nerf subs with healers cuz I wont be able to farm them even though Im pro and I dont have same class as them and it doesnt matter if they farm i can still be hero but I know they will be op I feel it in my pancreas
Who the fvck was talking about party setup, you know how to read? Its obvious the party setup its not the best, was what we had online. But the point its not that , the POINT is mobs giving lethals too often! Capiche?
Quote from: igi on February 19, 2014, 03:28:01 PM
And for ppl saying that lethal chance is too high..
U should consider that ure not 80vl yet and u drag 20-30 mobs trains thats 20-30 chances to get lethal.. so u should expect some (and by some I mean 2-3-5-10 lethals in buff round) lethals coming up
Stop making QQ topics like
PI so good xp but its hard to xp there :'( Make it easy so we can go with 2 ppl and bot all day...we die all the time :'(
TU not lethaling with every hit :'( Why I cant lethal 80vl x4HP mobs with TU?? QQ I am fuked I have no where to go Im just a little solo bp/ee
Hi Im making 3 chars to farm oly, and I know oly didnt start yet but, I want to QQ cuz of other ppl that will farm oly and I want them to be nerfed.. please nerf subs with healers cuz I wont be able to farm them even though Im pro and I dont have same class as them and it doesnt matter if they farm i can still be hero but I know they will be op I feel it in my pancreas
Who told we aren't 80? Fail.
Then yet again, i'm gonna assume you are 12 years old, because noone complaining about TU lethal after 76. People complain because you CAN'T lethal at 74. While on retail IL you could. Yet again, you fail time after time cause your 12 year old newborn piece of sample of a brain didn't get it yet:)
Also, your bringing another matter into this topic. Didnt u spam/troll enough on the other one? Guess your jsut an attention whore:)
Igi is just poiting that there are tooooo many QQ.
So much, that this whole forum can drown in tears.
QQ about TU
QQ about mana pots
QQ about spoil
QQ about olympiad
QQ about mob skills.
QQ about quests retails.
Soon there will be a lot more QQ about sub combos... QQ about sps/ee, necro/pp, etc.
Ppl are never happy. Cant you play the game as it is?
Quote from: lNecropsy on February 19, 2014, 08:18:44 PM
Igi is just poiting that there are tooooo many QQ.
So much, that this whole forum can drown in tears.
QQ about TU
QQ about mana pots
QQ about spoil
QQ about olympiad
QQ about mob skills.
QQ about quests retails.
Soon there will be a lot more QQ about sub combos... QQ about sps/ee, necro/pp, etc.
Ppl are never happy. Cant you play the game as it is?
Spoiler/creafter is op! Fix it asap!
Quote from: lNecropsy on February 19, 2014, 08:18:44 PM
Igi is just poiting that there are tooooo many QQ.
So much, that this whole forum can drown in tears.
QQ about TU
QQ about mana pots
QQ about spoil
QQ about olympiad
QQ about mob skills.
QQ about quests retails.
Soon there will be a lot more QQ about sub combos... QQ about sps/ee, necro/pp, etc.
Ppl are never happy. Cant you play the game as it is?
This is Bug section, im not crying or either cryed. Im just pointing out that those mobs are bugged. I know they lethal but not often as they are. "If you finid any bugs please report them"
Well when we were in PI tank got 3-5 full lethals in 3 buff rounds and 2 full lethals on a nuker but cp lethals were lot more frequent
but still it is easy manageable...
Dont get me wrong its ok to report things if u think they r not working right...
But I dont like attitude like NinoPitblabla that convinces himself hes right and no1 cant change his mind... and all he does is qq and flame ppl that give different view/opinion.
Im tired of him saying i played here and there and I know cuz u cant know what kind of ink is used to print a book just by reading it...if u know what I mean.
And also I think that u cant measure land rate of lethal when 30 mobs r hitting u cuz there is a lot more chance u get lethal than one mob attacking u
PI working fine we farm there on AOE long time ago there is no problems at all if u cant handle farming there this is not the right section to cry
Quote from: naTiexu on February 19, 2014, 10:16:50 PM
PI working fine we farm there on AOE long time ago there is no problems at all if u cant handle farming there this is not the right section to cry
^ http://www.instantsfun.es/badumtss/ (http://www.instantsfun.es/badumtss/)
NunoPitblabla flame him fast!! he said the complete opposite thing u said!!
I'am talking about full lethals
Well tonight we were PI and in first 30 min we didnt get any full lethals and after that 3 full in 5 min or so so u r eather lucky or unlucky :)
The problem is not the lethals at all, its the rate. It,s just funny cuz mobs lethal ALOT more then players. And my experience in farming on PI is so different from here that it does not feel right.
You are bad and your pt cant handle PI thats all i can say , If u want to buy spellbooks from PI feel free to pm demich/abruzzi .
Quote from: lNecropsy on February 19, 2014, 08:18:44 PM
Igi is just poiting that there are tooooo many QQ.
So much, that this whole forum can drown in tears.
QQ about TU
QQ about mana pots
QQ about spoil
QQ about olympiad
QQ about mob skills.
QQ about quests retails.
Soon there will be a lot more QQ about sub combos... QQ about sps/ee, necro/pp, etc.
Ppl are never happy. Cant you play the game as it is?
Man you have no idea. Yesterday i killed bunch of people, half of those who went on PK were "I keeeel you later". Im like why later? And they were like After I'm noble. And then they attempted to explain to me in broken language that L2 (especially PVP) starts after you make top gear and noble.
Lol what a joke. Back in the golden days I never had noble, and the goal was preventing the progress of the enemy. And now what? Cowards everywhere, people dropping wars or leaving clans with wars, sucking each others dks on golky or retail-bosses just for a chance to get it, instead of preventing their enemies to get it. Its pathetic what happened with the community and this thread is another result.
If I would spawn old Belit here, he would be a war hero compared to the shit that plays these days. Just pathetic.
I can just /facepalm to some people, like
Quote from: djvancho on February 18, 2014, 09:40:26 AM
PI in ok, this is TOP location in Interlude, so is not mean to be easy ...
And is farmable atm so ...
Quote from: Peorexo on February 18, 2014, 09:59:55 AM
u have everywhere 80lv? i guess no, mobs are above 80lv and their skill will have higher lethal rate on u unless ur 80's
etc, are guys totally newbies in L2 or WTF?? People on retail like servers hunting at PI at lvl 76, but why would you farm at PI in interlude? Is good only for top A weapons, adena quest, hunting t-rex and getting books atm..
Quote from: LadyZENITH on February 20, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Man you have no idea. Yesterday i killed bunch of people, half of those who went on PK were "I keeeel you later". Im like why later? And they were like After I'm noble. And then they attempted to explain to me in broken language that L2 (especially PVP) starts after you make top gear and noble.
Lol what a joke. Back in the golden days I never had noble, and the goal was preventing the progress of the enemy. And now what? Cowards everywhere, people dropping wars or leaving clans with wars, sucking each others dks on golky or retail-bosses just for a chance to get it, instead of preventing their enemies to get it. Its pathetic what happened with the community and this thread is another result.
If I would spawn old Belit here, he would be a war hero compared to the shit that plays these days. Just pathetic.
+1
Btw there's an NPC selling Primeval potions which provide some resistance to lethals.
Quote from: blblblblblbl on February 20, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I can just /facepalm to some people, like
etc, are guys totally newbies in L2 or WTF?? People on retail like servers hunting at PI at lvl 76, but why would you farm at PI in interlude? Is good only for top A weapons, adena quest, hunting t-rex and getting books atm..
Stop qq, i made plenty of trains on PI and did exp there here and back in the day 7y ago on our server, nothing changed in that matter. l2p