Any Info how Long it will take ?
bump
donny is up in game.
yeah :D
So, any ETA for this donation system to work? Or maybe put some GMs on charge of donations so they accept PMs like TZ does on Dragon (so I heard) if it will take longer than expected? :D
Quote from: dedemonn on February 22, 2014, 09:53:05 PM
So, any ETA for this donation system to work? Or maybe put some GMs on charge of donations so they accept PMs like TZ does on Dragon (so I heard) if it will take longer than expected? :D
Monday evening is expected to be enabled :)
For the time being... enjoy the game :D
That would be perfect ETA (assuming 'E' would mean here +- 1 day :D) - let's all hope you can make it. Thanks.
IF 4DC = 4 Euros, so bews is to cheap, very to cheap.
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 12:26:41 PM
IF 4DC = 4 Euros, so bews is to cheap, very to cheap.
Considering its 1 (freaking) scroll , how much 1 scroll should cost? 100dc each?
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 23, 2014, 12:28:16 PM
Considering its 1 (freaking) scroll , how much 1 scroll should cost? 100dc each?
considering it's blessed so 40E= 10Bews = +13dbow, am not risking to lose it, and in game to get this kind of enchant is very hard =3bews=s gun, and that kind of scroll is much more valueble, then sa 13 cr
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 12:37:31 PM
considering it's blessed so 40E= 10Bews = +13dbow, am not risking to lose it, and in game to get this kind of enchant is very hard =3bews=s gun, and that kind of scroll is much more valueble, then sa 13 cr
you are forgetting that bews got lower enchant rate than normal does... so its far from 40â,¬ = +13 â,¬ weapon because MOST of the ppl wont create it... but i still think enchant rates are too freaking high...
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 12:37:31 PM
considering it's blessed so 40E= 10Bews = +13dbow, am not risking to lose it, and in game to get this kind of enchant is very hard =3bews=s gun, and that kind of scroll is much more valueble, then sa 13 cr
to be honest you chat s hit , back in the days BEWS from players cost 1 DC max 2 , stop moaning there's no armors jawels ofc it will affect gameplay but server got to earn somehow money, unless you willing to set direct debit and support server 5$ each month then its fine remove dony at all
Quote from: Benoth on February 23, 2014, 12:44:15 PM
to be honest you chat s hit , back in the days BEWS from players cost 1 DC max 2 , stop moaning there's no armors jawels ofc it will affect gameplay but server got to earn somehow money, unless you willing to set direct debit and support server 5$ each month then its fine remove dony at all
ppl forget thats a new server with low online and u cant compare prices to old 10k on dragons
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 12:37:31 PM
considering it's blessed so 40E= 10Bews = +13dbow, am not risking to lose it, and in game to get this kind of enchant is very hard =3bews=s gun, and that kind of scroll is much more valueble, then sa 13 cr
have u checked the enchant rates on blessed? U're far from the truth
Quote from: preater on February 23, 2014, 12:46:46 PM
ppl forget thats a new server with low online and u cant compare prices to old 10k on dragons
10k online ? u mean 10k online 3/6 bots another 2/6 boxes and finaly 1/6 players , actualy s-grade weapon came quite easy ?
bews- should cost at least 20E as sa13, imagine, that it gives u wepon safe, so everithing in market will be =to bews(in this price it cost nothing, and even to make +16am i'am not talking about +6 or +7 that will be most cases in first time.
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 12:37:31 PM
considering it's blessed so 40E= 10Bews = +13dbow, am not risking to lose it, and in game to get this kind of enchant is very hard =3bews=s gun, and that kind of scroll is much more valueble, then sa 13 cr
This is a joke man, or you are very rude or you didnt even to bother to check enchant doc we provided. Or you are just bringing assumptions comparing dragon enchant rate and tara , WHICH IS WRONG very wrong.
P.S Why no1 speaks about armor enchanting?
Im curious if you can understand , ANYTHING from this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 23, 2014, 12:52:42 PM
This is a joke man, or you are very rude or you didnt even to bother to check enchant doc we provided. Or you are just bringing assumptions comparing dragon enchant rate and tara , WHICH IS WRONG very wrong.
P.S Why no1 speaks about armor enchanting?
Im curious if you can understand , ANYTHING from this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
Because you STIIIIIIL didnt freaking get that is TOOO DAMN EARLY to put BEWS for that price, or even putting BEWS ofr the matter:)
Also why wouldn't any1 enchant armor? Jeezus I know you wanna get money but dont be that hasty :D You know, to get "evenly" matched to wep u need to enchant all set which is 4x mroe the price, lool:D
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 23, 2014, 12:57:52 PM
Because you STIIIIIIL didnt freaking get that is TOOO DAMN EARLY to put BEWS for that price, or even putting BEWS ofr the matter:)
Also why wouldn't any1 enchant armor? Jeezus I know you wanna get money but dont be that hasty :D You know, to get "evenly" matched to wep u need to enchant all set which is 4x mroe the price, lool:D
My question to you: Where will you get S armors and weapons from? Donny, NO! Someone has to craft it, and oh noes if it brakes , you have to remake AGAIN everything. 80% of the server cant even equip S without level penalty. Its absolutely not easy as you think it is, actually is harder than official.
About armors, my point was not to be locked out on +6 as it was for past 10 years, not because we need money but it is because ++ weapon wont have the impact as it had on limited +6 sets in the past.Thats tho whole deal they "reset" each other.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 23, 2014, 12:52:42 PM
This is a joke man, or you are very rude or you didnt even to bother to check enchant doc we provided. Or you are just bringing assumptions comparing dragon enchant rate and tara , WHICH IS WRONG very wrong.
P.S Why no1 speaks about armor enchanting?
Im curious if you can understand , ANYTHING from this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
the chance of succes is lower only 10% then simple, the calculation is totally wrong, couse u have chance 1/2 and if u counting 1/2x1/2=1/4 in 2nd try it's not correct this enchant rates doesn't belong for privious action, so if u had high math, you understand your calculation is wrong.
On dragonx15 there was events when bews cost 1coin and ppl gone into enchant madness :D Many ppl lost everything they had these days ;D
Quote from: Painkiler on February 23, 2014, 01:13:24 PM
On dragonx15 there was events when bews cost 1coin and ppl gone into enchant madness :D Many ppl lost everything they had these days ;D
remember that :D
I'am here only one who understand that bews= enchants without risk to lose wepon, in this price's it's now 4E, it will cost how much 20kk-30kk each at market? And i want to ask one think, will u aceept paypal payments?:D
BEWS can make donator coin 100-150kk each.
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 01:42:56 PM
I'am here only one who understand that bews= enchants without risk to lose wepon, in this price's it's now 4E, it will cost how much 20kk-30kk each at market? And i want to ask one think, will u aceept paypal payments?:D
exactly it doesnt guarantee you enchant ... o.O
Quote from: Benoth on February 23, 2014, 01:48:31 PM
exactly it doesnt guarantee you enchant ... o.O
u don't get, at all, with blessed wepon is safe, bews is for free(if paypal is awailable)
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 01:50:37 PM
u don't get, at all, with blessed wepon is safe, bews is for free(if paypal is awailable)
free are you idiot ?
Quote from: Benoth on February 23, 2014, 01:52:24 PM
free are you idiot ?
did you know how much cost stolen 1000E in paypal?, and spent it on l2 server is more than safe so yes 4E will be allmost free.
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 01:55:18 PM
did you know how much cost stolen 1000E in paypal?, and spent it on l2 server is more than safe so yes 4E will be allmost free.
you do realise its a crime and you'll get dumped for that anyway ? its just matter of time but atleast now we know with who actualy we deal with
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 01:55:18 PM
did you know how much cost stolen 1000E in paypal?, and spent it on l2 server is more than safe so yes 4E will be allmost free.
what the heck?!
Didi we just got a pre-ban? Better explain yourself ASAP!
btw still this donation makes me no sense, even in pvp servers enchants cost more, here is low rate server, what kind of economy will be here, and what kind of jedy server
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 23, 2014, 02:01:53 PM
what the heck?!
Didi we just got a pre-ban? Better explain yourself ASAP!
sounds like a plan
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 23, 2014, 02:01:53 PM
what the heck?!
Didi we just got a pre-ban? Better explain yourself ASAP!
I know it's posible thing, i had newer done such things, but still i know it exsist.
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 02:02:02 PM
btw still this donation makes me no sense, even in pvp servers enchants cost more, here is low rate server, what kind of economy will be here, and what kind of jedy server
jedi
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 02:03:37 PM
I know it's posible thing, i had newer done such things, but still i know it exsist.
seen so much servers hating from it, but than it comes to enchant it's allmost imposible to fix
Quote from: Benoth on February 23, 2014, 02:02:39 PM
sounds like a plan
You need to take some your brains, would i be crying so much about enchants then, if i would be going to do that., and if u intresting i better would pay 15E each month, instead of donation.
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 23, 2014, 12:57:52 PM
Because you STIIIIIIL didnt freaking get that is TOOO DAMN EARLY to put BEWS for that price, or even putting BEWS ofr the matter:)
Also why wouldn't any1 enchant armor? Jeezus I know you wanna get money but dont be that hasty :D You know, to get "evenly" matched to wep u need to enchant all set which is 4x mroe the price, lool:D
Beside the fact that BEWA are definitely easier to get ingame compare to BEWS, you claim that we are hungry of money because we "suggest" that --"maybe" if you enchant armor you null out your opponent weapon enchant, but at same time you claim we are putting prices too low so we in fact earn low money (low price = low money) and we freakup server balance too.
There is something wrong on your logic.
And anyway, all blessed weapon enchant scrolls have a rate ridiculous low compared to official so again i dont see this issue as, except if you are going to donate a Villa in Bahamas to us, is hard to make something ++++ out of them.
People managed to get some +++ with C grade but as you see in the graphs to get a +16 Fighter Weapon starting from +0 and using EWC (basically the highest enchant chance as Fighter Enchant scrolls have the highest) the success rate is 0.53%
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
now, this value means that 99.47% of chances you totally lose the weapon to get to +16.
I dont know how many weapons you can craft yourself but this is a lot (considering you can fail also the craft itself!)
EDIT:
i help you with the math: you need craft
successfully 200 fighter weapon S grade and maybe, if you are evenly lucky/unlucky you will get ONE to +16 and 199 in crystals.
With mage weapons, as the fail rate is 99,9%, means you need craft
succesfully 500 mage weapon S grade to get 499 of them in crystals and ONE to +16.
And all this using NORMAL scrollsWith BEWS is:
- 1608 attemps (around 12864 scrolls) on a fighter weapon to get ONE to +16
- 27558 attemps (around 220464 scrolls) on a mage weapons to get ONE to +16
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 02:07:45 PM
You need to take some your brains, would i be crying so much about enchants then, if i would be going to do that., and if u intresting i better would pay 15E each month, instead of donation.
absolutely agree with you , let them gather from a 1000 ppl direct debit slips with 1 year guarantee and remove dony ,
ohh, but you know its kinda impossible
Quote from: Benoth on February 23, 2014, 02:12:31 PM
absolutely agree with you , let them gather from a 1000 ppl direct debit slips with 1 year guarantee and remove dony ,
ohh, but you know its kinda impossible
:D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I did read only 2 pages and i think some people think that BEWS = 100% successfull enchant. And that is a reason why there is so much cry over BEWS.
Very few stupid loud people making drama over nothing.
Edit: Im curious why Cibas isnt banned already . That guy is a) troll b) totally delusional living in his own world c) simply stupid.
Quote from: Vendettacz on February 23, 2014, 02:18:44 PM
I did read only 2 pages and i think some people think that BEWS = 100% successfull enchant. And that is a reason why there is so much cry over BEWS.
Very few stupid loud people making drama over nothing.
Edit: Im curious why Cibas isnt banned already . That guy is a) troll b) totally delusional living in his own world c) simply stupid.
And for that i should be banned? couse i want more stable and competive server?
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 02:29:33 PM
And for that i should be banned? couse i want more stable and competive server?
Not banned but reported to your local Authorities . However that guy was referring to something else , which you obviously didn't understand.
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 01:55:18 PM
did you know how much cost stolen 1000E in paypal?, and spent it on l2 server is more than safe so yes 4E will be allmost free.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 23, 2014, 02:32:28 PM
Not banned but reported to your local Authorities . However that guy was referring to something else , which you obviously didn't understand.
Can u contact me in game nick : Cibas i would explain everithing in your pm, what is wrong
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 02:36:35 PM
Can u contact me in game nick : Cibas i would explain everithing in your pm, what is wrong
defo something wrong with u pal
It seems only i care how much it will efect game economy, and what kind of issues exsist on it.
Sorry for being such a cryier, more ++ on wep more intresting to play ofc.
Quote from: cibas on February 23, 2014, 02:55:20 PM
It seems only i care how much it will efect game economy, and what kind of issues exsist on it.
Sorry for being such a cryier, more ++ on wep more intresting to play ofc.
YOU are so STUPID, shut the freak up already
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 23, 2014, 12:52:42 PM
This is a joke man, or you are very rude or you didnt even to bother to check enchant doc we provided. Or you are just bringing assumptions comparing dragon enchant rate and tara , WHICH IS WRONG very wrong.
P.S Why no1 speaks about armor enchanting?
Im curious if you can understand , ANYTHING from this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
I did, no response..here it is :
Putting S grade weapon/armor to donny would lead to a more balanced server.
Putting enchants will just lead to OE S grade stuff :)
And..you have to spend like 7-8x(?) more enchants on your armor than on a weapon.So don't come with the "why don't you enchant your armors" thingy.
IMO:
you shouldn't add Blessed enchants to donny nor cry13 (the 11 and 12 doesn't have that much effect)
you should add A grade weapon recipes
Quote from: mlhungary8 on February 23, 2014, 03:52:52 PM
I did, no response..here it is :
Putting S grade weapon/armor to donny would lead to a more balanced server.
Putting enchants will just lead to OE S grade stuff :)
And..you have to spend like 7-8x(?) more enchants on your armor than on a weapon.So don't come with the "why don't you enchant your armors" thingy.
IMO:
you shouldn't add Blessed enchants to donny nor cry13 (the 11 and 12 doesn't have that much effect)
you should add A grade weapon recipes
Putting S grade in donny that early will freak up totally this server. Later, when 80-90% of server will have S grades they can be there, but not yet. According to enchant data provided by drake, you have same chance to make fighter weapon +12 and armor+10 with normal enchants. And it's a lot easier to make armor part than full weapon.