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Title: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 06:22:42 PM
why tattoo of mana regen and mana burst are nerfed ? its sux when you nerf mage tattoo and boost tattoos for crit damage?
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: stanko on February 22, 2014, 06:24:11 PM
it's just balanced, for higher lvl chars u should use higher lvl tattoo, it's all explained nicely
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Oo on February 22, 2014, 06:25:32 PM
Quote from: stanko on February 22, 2014, 06:24:11 PM
it's just balanced, for higher lvl chars u should use higher lvl tattoo, it's all explained nicely
It's nerf not balance.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 06:28:02 PM
Quote from: Oo on February 22, 2014, 06:25:32 PM
It's nerf not balance.
agree with your opinion.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: stanko on February 22, 2014, 06:24:11 PM
it's just balanced, for higher lvl chars u should use higher lvl tattoo, it's all explained nicely
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 06:29:19 PM
Aint nerf (as is a custom design by me and not by ncsoft), read it better.
Was explained also in the original changelog that each tattoo level is designed for specific levels.
In fact the EMP tattoo of ManaRecovery, that is designed for lv76+, is even better now.

The main issue of ManaRecovery tattoo is that was "too good" at early levels compared to ManaBurst.
Now is about 3x times better "only".
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: stanko on February 22, 2014, 06:29:35 PM
Quote from: Oo on February 22, 2014, 06:25:32 PM
It's nerf not balance.
it is balance.
u want to get awesome bonuses on high lvl chars with lv1 tattoo? not really son
and it was true that lv1 tattoo was op, myself had only those lv1 on all fighters and buffbots and it worked like a charm.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Oo on February 22, 2014, 06:33:07 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 06:28:47 PM


I don't get it rly, i started to use 3/4 lvl on +50 lvl, now new tatoo on +78 lvl sux xD
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: pmkaboo on February 22, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
Quote from: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 06:29:19 PM
Aint nerf (as is a custom design by me and not by ncsoft), read it better.
Was explained also in the original changelog that each tattoo level is designed for specific levels.
In fact the EMP tattoo of ManaRecovery, that is designed for lv76+, is even better now.

The main issue of ManaRecovery tattoo is that was "too good" at early levels compared to ManaBurst.
Now is about 3x times better "only".
50kk every 6hours when youre 70+lvl, no thanks.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Oo on February 22, 2014, 06:40:47 PM
Quote from: pmkaboo on February 22, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
50kk every 6hours when youre 70+lvl, no thanks.
Anyway lvl 4 > empowered lvl 4  8)
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 06:41:44 PM
Quote from: Oo on February 22, 2014, 06:33:07 PM
I don't get it rly, i started to use 3/4 lvl on +50 lvl, now new tatoo on +78 lvl sux xD

Mana Burst maximum level didnt change.
Mana Recovery maximum level gives 10mp more.

Quote from: pmkaboo on February 22, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
50kk every 6hours when youre 70+lvl, no thanks.

You dont have to keep it on 24/24 and tattoo is just an extra option and not meant to be always used but activated "when you need it"
For mana, if you cant afford any tattoo at all, there are classes that can recharge you.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 06:42:49 PM
Quote from: pmkaboo on February 22, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
50kk every 6hours when youre 70+lvl, no thanks.
Its not 6h it only counts while you have it equipped. If you are lazy to unequip , thats another story.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 06:42:49 PM
Its not 6h it only counts while you have it equipped. If you are lazy to unequip , thats another story.
if you are support char or any mage you have equiped tattoo of mana burst non stop, so it is for 6h
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 07:36:59 PM
Quote from: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
if you are support char or any mage you have equiped tattoo of mana burst non stop, so it is for 6h

Tattoo is still an extra.
L2 is meant to be fully playable without mana potions or custom tattoo by default
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 07:48:36 PM
Quote from: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 07:36:59 PM
Tattoo is still an extra.
L2 is meant to be fully playable without mana potions or custom tattoo by default
its not l2. its dragon network. ITS STUCK SUB
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 07:50:50 PM
mana potions was motto of this server
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: unhandledexeption on February 22, 2014, 08:00:27 PM
Funny, as i remember from 50kk on only potion system you could by so many mana pots that was enough for weeks, or maybe months :D
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:05:40 PM
best PVE server i ever played. just farming for tattoo.. if on exp or aoe tattoo disappears you need to back to town make tattoo and go back on farm for another tattoo. yea thats it!
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 08:07:04 PM
Quote from: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:05:40 PM
best PVE server i ever played. just farming for tattoo.. if on exp or aoe tattoo disappears you need to back to town make tattoo and go back on farm for another tattoo. yea thats it!

Or you can limit the usage of tattoos for what they really are meant: only needed conditions.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: somasz on February 22, 2014, 08:22:30 PM
aaaaaaaand archers got another advantage vs mages :|
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:24:35 PM
yep if mages tattoo are "balanced" go make crit dmg tattoo blanaced too
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:28:33 PM
Quote from: Falatko on February 22, 2014, 08:26:10 PM
for what? only good thing to change that tatoo is to make it 50% to have effect on Bow, since daggers and not such a fear factor as archers +40% crit dmg on daggers +20% for bow /Fixed
you cant get better than DC robe for mage.. now im getting 1.7k dmg from archer with no tattoo and only soul bow or carnage ... if any archer equip AQ and Baium and DB + Jedi and tattoo, you know good what gonna happen
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:30:28 PM
Quote from: Falatko on February 22, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
there is major arcana robe? :O or did they delete it? :D
gg for sh :) with 600 cast you are so pro
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:31:22 PM
and anyway you will get 5k+ crit dmg from PR or he/wl
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 08:32:29 PM
Quote from: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:28:33 PM
you cant get better than DC robe for mage.. now im getting 1.7k dmg from archer with no tattoo and only soul bow or carnage ... if any archer equip AQ and Baium and DB + Jedi and tattoo, you know good what gonna happen

if they use tattoo for damage, you can use tattoo of pdef too.
If they are moneyless without tattoo, then you dont need to use tattoo too.
Tattoos of same level pretty much cancel each out if you take opposites.

And if they use overenchanted bow, you can overenchant your armor too.

As you can see: there is always a counter!
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:34:05 PM
there is not counter. i cant see if any archer use crit dmg tattoo and he can easy get mage on 1 crit.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: somasz on February 22, 2014, 08:35:24 PM
As mages we will need to be all the time on mana burst tatoo, when archer can use full mana for loooooooooooong time.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Painkiler on February 22, 2014, 08:37:13 PM
Enchant MA every part +10/12 and see archers QQ so hard, same goes for mages with ++++ jewels.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Peorexo on February 22, 2014, 08:37:32 PM
Quote from: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:30:28 PM
gg for sh :) with 600 cast you are so pro
gg 600atk speed with bow, and 500 on pr with 40%cd tatoo, cool :)
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: Falatko on February 22, 2014, 08:35:40 PM
i wonder if archer will hit me with my dagger evasion FTW!
hmm i see, i thought ppl were so unskilled 5 years ago, but they are same now, every sever i played after dragon ppl used major arcana, mega pdef , imba m atk, casting 1,5k for sh was enought but here just QQ :D
yea clean SH with full buff for mage have 1.3k cast with dc robe. you know its hard to make sub now and not all SH are SH/PS
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:40:21 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on February 22, 2014, 08:37:32 PM
gg 600atk speed with bow, and 500 on pr with 40%cd tatoo, cool :)
40% crit dmg > any attack speed.
make 40% magic crit rate or magic crit dmg tattoo and - 10% mdef and -10% cast. gg ;d
thats all from me.
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:43:40 PM
Quote from: Falatko on February 22, 2014, 08:42:08 PM
you have to be such a pro pvp player with F1-F12 hydro blast :D
and you with f1-f12 b soe :D and im not sps
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 08:47:08 PM
Quote from: Sajnope on February 22, 2014, 08:40:21 PM
40% crit dmg > any attack speed.
make 40% magic crit rate or magic crit dmg tattoo and - 10% mdef and -10% cast. gg ;d
thats all from me.

lv4 EMP tatto with 40% crt.dmg is same dps of having this two conditions at same time:
- lv4 EMP tatto PATK (20%)
- 50% critical rate

if you have lower critical rate than 50%, is better use the +20% PATK tattoo as your dps will be higher with it.

And if you are a mage... then the +20% MATK one that does the same of the PATK one but... for mages :)
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: Peorexo on February 22, 2014, 09:13:19 PM
Quote from: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 08:47:08 PM
lv4 EMP tatto with 40% crt.dmg is same dps of having this two conditions at same time:
- lv4 EMP tatto PATK (20%)
- 50% critical rate

if you have lower critical rate than 50%, is better use the +20% PATK tattoo as your dps will be higher with it.

And if you are a mage... then the +20% MATK one that does the same of the PATK one but... for mages :)
Im wondering, how u still manage to peacefully answer and teach this horde over and over again :D
ppl just see numbers and qq immediately
Title: Re: nerfed mana tattoo
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 09:15:19 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on February 22, 2014, 09:13:19 PM
Im wondering, how u still manage to peacefully answer and teach this horde over and over again :D
ppl just see numbers and qq immediately
He learned it from me.