Is there any way to set a minimum distance between shops?
It is really annoying when trying to browse, there is a wall you cant go past and it ruins the whole area
i vote for that idea too.
We had the first week and everyone was in a massive cry of L2jish
so we removed.
You dont need to create such a epic dumb posts.
/FINDPRIVATESTORE "name of item".
What else u gotta browse?
L2 IS L2 there aint be ferrari being selled in giran,so find for what you looking for and stop this cry sh1t like enchants and stuff.
Well, that escalated quickly :S
Calm the freak down, I was only giving a suggestion since you cant get to the shops at the BACK cos the they have a solid line in the way
Stop drinking coffee and chill out mate.
Also, it would make the town looker nicer : :-*
Pool time, lets see the flamewar start again.
I think it wouldn't be good to put distance between EVERY shop.
But how about this:
Put a thin 'road' between the center of Giran market and the stairs, and maybe the center and the olympiad statue. So we could, at least, move into the marked without running to the back, because the brickwall created in the first row is annoying as hell.
Quote from: =drake= on March 01, 2014, 09:11:59 PM
We had the first week and everyone was in a massive cry of L2jish
so we removed.
It was bugged like hell...
maybe ghost shops? so we could move freely on girans market? :)
Quote from: emissary on March 02, 2014, 01:00:19 PM
maybe ghost shops? so we could move freely on girans market? :)
They say it's not possible in IL (however ghost shops were there at least since C4 on infinity...).
Quote from: unhandledexeption on March 02, 2014, 01:19:58 PM
They say it's not possible in IL (however ghost shops were there at least since C4 on infinity...).
Is the client that freaks up all.
I tried to trick the collision range sent from server to client (removing the collisions fully) but the client then for unknown reasons shrinked all weapons to lollipop size :D (some people should remember those laughable 10 minutes!)
Quote from: =drake= on March 02, 2014, 06:29:55 PM
Is the client that freaks up all.
I tried to trick the collision range sent from server to client (removing the collisions fully) but the client then for unknown reasons shrinked all weapons to lollipop size :D (some people should remember those laughable 10 minutes!)
And what if you make the server accessible from hb client as well? Ofc with locked new areas or empty iop n hb island. Coz stucking with dwarfs and not being able to move is VERY annoying.
Quote from: sm0g on March 02, 2014, 06:33:56 PM
And what if you make the server accessible from hb client as well? Ofc with locked new areas or empty iop n hb island. Coz stucking with dwarfs and not being able to move is VERY annoying.
The server is IL... it stay IL also the client :)
Quote from: =drake= on March 02, 2014, 06:56:28 PM
The server is IL... it stay IL also the client :)
Yeaaa and to not make another topic since u sometimes do read posts between lines
Why the freak daggers got additional nerfs to their skillset from old DNET il ?
Shots bonus with dagger is less than 10% while off-like is 50% bonus to skills.
Colliding shops are indeed annoying. I myself had already 2 situations where I've been blocked completely (someone put a shop on the way back from dead end) and all I could do was to relog and move quickly before they load up.
Too bad ghost shops are undoable (does it concern also the shops in offline mode or you tried things only on all shops?), because I see pros and cons for other workarounds. :s
Quote from: Zibo on March 02, 2014, 07:04:44 PM
Colliding shops are indeed annoying. I myself had already 2 situations where I've been blocked completely (someone put a shop on the way back from dead end) and all I could do was to relog and move quickly before they load up.
you can always soe :)
True, yet relog was faster. :)
Back in the day on a server called L2World, Giran Harbor was were all shops were set up. They didn't allow shops in Giran, you had to set them up in harbor. It was great because its a GIANT empty area, things are easy to see, and the economy apparently got alot better once they made that change. It became THE place to set up a shop. Teleport there was free.
Might be worth thinking about... I can't see what bad it would cause.
Quote from: Peorexo on March 02, 2014, 07:00:38 PM
Why the freak daggers got additional nerfs to their skillset from old DNET il ?
Shots bonus with dagger is less than 10% while off-like is 50% bonus to skills.
Sorry but is untouched that!
Not even watched that stuff, is straight from L2off internal engine.
Quote from: Zibo on March 02, 2014, 07:04:44 PM
Colliding shops are indeed annoying. I myself had already 2 situations where I've been blocked completely (someone put a shop on the way back from dead end) and all I could do was to relog and move quickly before they load up.
Too bad ghost shops are undoable (does it concern also the shops in offline mode or you tried things only on all shops?), because I see pros and cons for other workarounds. :s
Made me think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1MHY_AFNAM
Quote from: =drake= on March 02, 2014, 11:45:27 PM
Sorry but is untouched that!
Not even watched that stuff, is straight from L2off internal engine.
No it isnt, i playd l2off i played zilion servers, dagger skills got +50% bonus from shots (wow on some l2jsduwdasjd even +100%), but not +10% as here, and im sure about that since im th/wl and my dagger skills hit like shit, and wl skills hit much harder (cuz shot bonus working there properly)
Backstab:
SS Boost: 1.5
Lethal Blow:
SS Boost: 1.5
EarthQuake:
SS Boost: 2.0
And trust me, ask any l2off player if he will heard shots give almost nothing on skills he will make laugh
Its like making on mages shots 10% effect just faster casting nothing more :) come on.
Quote from: =drake= on March 02, 2014, 06:56:28 PM
The server is IL... it stay IL also the client :)
Im not asking for hb server but access from hb client since it may solve the problem. (and make many more?)
Quote from: Peorexo on March 03, 2014, 12:29:37 AM
No it isnt, i playd l2off i played zilion servers, dagger skills got +50% bonus from shots (wow on some l2jsduwdasjd even +100%), but not +10% as here, and im sure about that since im th/wl and my dagger skills hit like shit, and wl skills hit much harder (cuz shot bonus working there properly)
Backstab:
SS Boost: 1.5
Lethal Blow:
SS Boost: 1.5
EarthQuake:
SS Boost: 2.0
And trust me, ask any l2off player if he will heard shots give almost nothing on skills he will make laugh
Its like making on mages shots 10% effect just faster casting nothing more :) come on.
Lethal blow and Backstab started getting extra damage from soulshots either in Hellbound or in one of Gracia patches, hard to say now that official l2 site has mowed down all the history of patches before Goddess of destruction
Quote from: Alex on March 03, 2014, 02:30:12 AM
Lethal blow and Backstab started getting extra damage from soulshots either in Hellbound or in one of Gracia patches, hard to say now that official l2 site has mowed down all the history of patches before Goddess of destruction
u still can check on: http://legacy.lineage2.com/ :)
cheers
Quote from: Alex on March 03, 2014, 02:30:12 AM
Lethal blow and Backstab started getting extra damage from soulshots either in Hellbound or in one of Gracia patches, hard to say now that official l2 site has mowed down all the history of patches before Goddess of destruction
u sure about that? Im still thinking this skill was getting normal boost in past chronicles too. IL was rly long ago so i might be wrong as well...
And in patch notes i cant find anything, just the formula which says dagger skills are 2 types, one with 50% bonus 2nd with 104%...., but the formula is posted in 2011.
Quote from: Csenky on March 02, 2014, 10:07:56 AM
I think it wouldn't be good to put distance between EVERY shop.
But how about this:
Put a thin 'road' between the center of Giran market and the stairs, and maybe the center and the olympiad statue. So we could, at least, move into the marked without running to the back, because the brickwall created in the first row is annoying as hell.
To go back to actual topic...
+1 to that idea. A pathway between the main group of shops in Giran would be great.
Me and a lot of my friends like simply browsing the market to get an idea of prices, and maybe find items/mats cheap enough to buy instead of spoil/craft.
Currently, shop names overlap each other so bad that I don't even bother anymore, it is just frustrating.
3 paths for each sides. 1 in the middle/in front of the central pillar and 1 at the side (so 2 side lanes). Those 2 side lanes would make a X, allowing us the get all shops from the paths.
+|+
-O-
+|+
Or something like that. the 0 is the central pillar, the straights the path for us to walk.