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Title: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Pheeo on March 25, 2014, 10:17:07 PM
Well since it have to me a PVP zone, why u not do somethin to attract more ppl there? As i saw how many ppl want to kill ToI golky. I gues there should be some even in goa.

Or Why not move All Q Golky to Goa at secret rooms ??

Please only serious reaction.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Garn. on March 25, 2014, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: Pheeo on March 25, 2014, 10:17:07 PM

Please only serious reaction.
ok:
close GOE.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Painkiler on March 25, 2014, 11:56:31 PM
put a quest golky with 5% chance to drop premium horn or/and 15-20% normal(same list, so only 1 of these can drop) and every1 will be there ;]
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: ^Evacuate^ on March 26, 2014, 12:02:03 AM
GOE offer the unique possibility to refill tattos and Raid Boss there drops Vial for making tatto lvl 4 emp.
Sadly just few ppls going there.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Pheeo on March 26, 2014, 12:03:25 AM
Quote from: Garn. on March 25, 2014, 10:51:13 PM
ok:
close GOE.

Sad but true :D
Dont mind me i realy like the idea of pvp arena, but is pointless when nobody go there
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: SizeMatters on March 26, 2014, 12:12:23 AM
Quote from: Garn. on March 25, 2014, 10:51:13 PM
ok:
close GOE.

+
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: ameba40 on March 26, 2014, 12:37:57 AM
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on March 26, 2014, 12:02:03 AM
GOE offer the unique possibility to refill tattos and Raid Boss there drops Vial for making tatto lvl 4 emp.
Sadly just few ppls going there.
maybe change the place
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: TheDeath on March 26, 2014, 12:59:12 AM
Quote from: Painkiler on March 25, 2014, 11:56:31 PM
put a quest golky with 5% chance to drop premium horn or/and 15-20% normal(same list, so only 1 of these can drop) and every1 will be there ;]
so big clans will farm.

Imo something more interesting should be added there.. mana potions? :°D ZANZANZAAAAN DRAMA
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Garn. on March 26, 2014, 01:05:01 AM
i've always hated custom pvp areas. it's pointless when you have an open world.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 26, 2014, 02:26:04 AM
there is all kind of rewards in GoE...

- only way to refill tattoos
- only way to make tattoos empowered
- soul crystals lv11 to lv13
- unique items
- subclass horn
- best life stones
- bosses that are a pinata of enchants (A/S)

what else to make it interesting? :|
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Calisa on March 26, 2014, 02:41:44 AM
Quote from: =drake= on March 26, 2014, 02:26:04 AM
there is all kind of rewards in GoE...

- only way to refill tattoos
- only way to make tattoos empowered
- soul crystals lv11 to lv13
- unique items
- subclass horn
- best life stones
- bosses that are a pinata of enchants (A/S)

what else to make it interesting? :|

Limit the time to 2-3 h per day. Its same like oly, opened 24 h would be avoiding each other and transfering points. And its hard to expect from ppl spend there hole day on pvp when they are still exping, gathering items, with limited time should be better.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Garn. on March 26, 2014, 09:05:51 AM
Quote from: Garn. on March 26, 2014, 01:05:01 AM
it's pointless when you have an open world.
.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: N!k on March 26, 2014, 09:14:37 AM
for what? if u can push f1 to the end of your life.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Pheeo on March 26, 2014, 12:39:37 PM
drake u should know, that only way to get your reward is actualy break the rules and kill each other... because nobody else going threre
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 26, 2014, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: Pheeo on March 26, 2014, 12:39:37 PM
drake u should know, that only way to get your reward is actualy break the rules and kill each other... because nobody else going threre

Is mostly a consequence of:
a) reward seems not interesting to most players (uknown why)
b) no one interested in going there (see point A)
c) no way to make points in a legit way (see point B)

maybe limit the event only on weekends or daily only between a specific time range could improve it.
Additional rewards seems ridiculous...
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: NunoPitbull on March 26, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
Quote from: =drake= on March 26, 2014, 03:13:43 PM
Is mostly a consequence of:
a) reward seems not interesting to most players (uknown why)
b) no one interested in going there (see point A)
c) no way to make points in a legit way (see point B)

maybe limit the event only on weekends or daily only between a specific time range could improve it.
Additional rewards seems ridiculous...

Problem is people are still chasing after basic equip stuff, since its not that fast(although easy) to equip urself. Maybe main CPs of clans already are equiped, but since they play from start they already have horn either on 1 or their retails or even 2nd retails already. While most people at this point are still finihsing nobless/1st subs and making S grades...;) Was 2 early for you to implement that. Same for BEWS.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Darkmicky on March 26, 2014, 04:48:25 PM
I think ppl is scared of lose EXP but maybe they dont know you DONT lose EXP on GOE i also think the place suck with the water and the doors, the idea of the pvp zone and rewards are cool tho
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Garn. on March 26, 2014, 05:09:21 PM
pvp zone is for high rates java.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Chicks on March 26, 2014, 05:29:25 PM
Quote from: NunoPitbull on March 26, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
Problem is people are still chasing after basic equip stuff, since its not that fast(although easy) to equip urself. Maybe main CPs of clans already are equiped, but since they play from start they already have horn either on 1 or their retails or even 2nd retails already. While most people at this point are still finihsing nobless/1st subs and making S grades...;) Was 2 early for you to implement that. Same for BEWS.

I agree with this. +1.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: silent_death on March 27, 2014, 05:35:19 PM
Make it only 1 hour long every night.. that way ppl will think "oh shit its 20:05 i need to pwn some niggaz"
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: mich4l05 on March 27, 2014, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: NunoPitbull on March 26, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
Problem is people are still chasing after basic equip stuff, since its not that fast(although easy) to equip urself. Maybe main CPs of clans already are equiped, but since they play from start they already have horn either on 1 or their retails or even 2nd retails already. While most people at this point are still finihsing nobless/1st subs and making S grades...;) Was 2 early for you to implement that. Same for BEWS.

+1
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 27, 2014, 10:37:43 PM
Quote from: silent_death on March 27, 2014, 05:35:19 PM
Make it only 1 hour long every night.. that way ppl will think "oh shit its 20:05 i need to pwn some niggaz"

I think it may be the correct way to focus players inside it.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 12:42:22 AM
GoE is now time limited: daily from 17:00 to 20:00 (19:59) GMT+1

In case someone suggests a different timeframe, you are welcome to discuss it.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: bazziq on March 28, 2014, 01:05:59 AM
Raid stats remaining ?
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 01:15:56 AM
Quote from: bazziq on March 28, 2014, 01:05:59 AM
Raid stats remaining ?

They will be basically doable only during those 3 hours.
Maybe on saturday we could expand it from 14:00 to 20:00 GMT+1

Still, we are really open to suggestions on GoE. (beside delete it)
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: bazziq on March 28, 2014, 01:17:21 AM
Quote from: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 01:15:56 AM
They will be basically doable only during those 3 hours.
Maybe on saturday we could expand it from 14:00 to 20:00 GMT+1

Still, we are really open to suggestions on GoE. (beside delete it)
That doesnt answer my question... The raid stats remaining ?
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 01:38:11 AM
Quote from: bazziq on March 28, 2014, 01:17:21 AM
That doesnt answer my question... The raid stats remaining ?

What you mean then?
The stats of raids if is still the same?

Not really, on the raids we did some tunings lately, we reduced the max HP and Matk, noticeably reduced the bonus given by the Rage (Dartan) and raised their PDef/Mdef (differently based on raid to give them weaknesses/resistances accordly to the archetype).
Minions remains the same, except after reboot "Rakazan Despair" (one of minion of rakazan) will have a less powerful paralyze (30sec instead of 120sec).
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Peorexo on March 28, 2014, 01:42:32 AM
Quote from: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 01:15:56 AM
They will be basically doable only during those 3 hours.
Maybe on saturday we could expand it from 14:00 to 20:00 GMT+1

Still, we are really open to suggestions on GoE. (beside delete it)
dont remember exact times just didnt care yet, but jsut make it NOT collide with olympiad in any stage, so it will let us have longer period of some action
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 01:44:18 AM
Quote from: Peorexo on March 28, 2014, 01:42:32 AM
dont remember exact times just didnt care yet, but jsut make it NOT collide with olympiad in any stage, so it will let us have longer period of some action


I clearly said it stops at 20:00 GMT+1
(exactly when olympiads starts)
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: SizeMatters on March 28, 2014, 01:44:46 AM
Quote from: Garn. on March 26, 2014, 05:09:21 PM
pvp zone is for high rates java.

this
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 01:48:46 AM
Quote from: SizeMatters on March 28, 2014, 01:44:46 AM
this

So is olympiads?
olympiad is:
a) a pvp zone
b) confined in restricted space
c) gives you rewards by winning

goe is:
a) a pvp zone
b) confined in restricted space (but much bigger)
c) gives you rewards by winning
(as extra: it have 7 raidbosses and you play against N opponents instead of just 1)


So, claiming GoE is for javaz0r x9000, means olympiad is too.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Danilo on March 28, 2014, 03:53:41 AM
If u get these marks by time(1/min), only for staying at area, i think some ppl would go there. You will have to raise the reward for pvp, like 10 for each kill(you will have to multiply the price of the itens too).
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: fifo100 on March 28, 2014, 08:52:11 AM
Quote from: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 01:38:11 AM
What you mean then?
The stats of raids if is still the same?

Not really, on the raids we did some tunings lately, we reduced the max HP and Matk, noticeably reduced the bonus given by the Rage (Dartan) and raised their PDef/Mdef (differently based on raid to give them weaknesses/resistances accordly to the archetype).
Minions remains the same, except after reboot "Rakazan Despair" (one of minion of rakazan) will have a less powerful paralyze (30sec instead of 120sec).

Nice tunning. Full buffed destro with im+6+ aq + bauim = crits for 1000, normal hits for 150-200.
Before your tunning destro was hitting for 6k crit.
I know you wanted to make new antharas. GG keep it up.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 02:23:43 PM
Quote from: fifo100 on March 28, 2014, 08:52:11 AM
Nice tunning. Full buffed destro with im+6+ aq + bauim = crits for 1000, normal hits for 150-200.
Before your tunning destro was hitting for 6k crit.
I know you wanted to make new antharas. GG keep it up.

You forgot the detail that HP have been greatly reduced?
Anyway, yes, those 3 raidboss are meant to be definitely stronger than the average "punching bag boss" of L2
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: silent_death on March 28, 2014, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 12:42:22 AM
GoE is now time limited: daily from 17:00 to 20:00 (19:59) GMT+1

In case someone suggests a different timeframe, you are welcome to discuss it.

I think a 2 (maybe even 1) hour slots maybe be better, to create a bigger sense of 'urgency' to get there - the less time it is available, the more people will be afraid to miss it. Also, what is the actual peak activity time? I would have thought it is after 8pm? so 7-9 perhaps?
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Danilo on March 28, 2014, 03:02:11 PM
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on March 28, 2014, 10:54:38 AM
like LOL gold system...

Mmh the point is that in this case i can just hide my char somewhere far away/unseen and wait 483393939 days untill i get a lot of marks.

That is the point, and i would go there to kill your char and maybe more ppl would go to, and then we would meet someone there killing this char and the pvp starts  xD
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Danilo on March 28, 2014, 03:02:11 PM
That is the point, and i would go there to kill your char and maybe more ppl would go to, and then we would meet someone there killing this char and the pvp starts  xD

I will think about that idea.
Tbh we could shorter the time even more from 18:00 to 20:00
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: bazziq on March 28, 2014, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: =drake= on March 28, 2014, 03:06:04 PM
I will think about that idea.
Tbh we could shorter the time even more from 18:00 to 20:00
There will always just party fights for raidboses of that type.
So they have to be slain able by one party.
There is not enough ppl to make them stat close to antharas.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: royy on March 31, 2014, 05:18:59 PM
add mobs with spoil ews on good rate u will see ppl inside
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Painkiler on March 31, 2014, 05:25:44 PM
Add recipes S grade armors to choose as reward for the mark. For example xxx marks+ vial to get one recipe of your choice, because varka/ketra one's r random.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 31, 2014, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: royy on March 31, 2014, 05:18:59 PM
add mobs with spoil ews on good rate u will see ppl inside

You get 100% chance of dropping large quantity of BEW/BEA A-S in the boss room. (Plus Vial and LifeStones)

Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Painkiler on March 31, 2014, 07:11:08 PM
Obviously blessed enchant r easly obtainable from donny, and they have lower enchant rate.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 31, 2014, 07:15:43 PM
Then adding normal enchants would make it more interesting?
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: Painkiler on March 31, 2014, 07:23:09 PM
Quote from: =drake= on March 31, 2014, 07:15:43 PM
Then adding normal enchants would make it more interesting?
I wouldn't add any enchants at all to these bosses. They should drop lifestones, DI books, A/S grade armor recipes from few multiply list(Draco/IC/MA/DC/NM/MJ/Tallum), IL specific weapons or recipe+parts(barakiel axe, shyeed bow, etc). And add S grade armor recipes to choose for marks as i said earlier, because for some ppl pvp for recipes would be better than farm ketra/varka for random one.
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: royy on March 31, 2014, 07:29:21 PM
RB's are hard to kill u need full party support + destros on aq baium to kill.. only  2 - 3 party on serwer got this 

if u make mobs with spoil ews u will see ppl there.. u must make something for randoms or groups 2 - 3 ppl
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: bazziq on March 31, 2014, 08:27:10 PM
Quote from: royy on March 31, 2014, 07:29:21 PM
RB's are hard to kill u need full party support + destros on aq baium to kill.. only  2 - 3 party on serwer got this 

if u make mobs with spoil ews u will see ppl there.. u must make something for randoms or groups 2 - 3 ppl
This is  no longer true, drake made antaras from that rbs..
Now you need much more then one pty
Title: Re: Suggestion About GOA
Post by: =drake= on March 31, 2014, 08:29:59 PM
Quote from: bazziq on March 31, 2014, 08:27:10 PM
This is  no longer true, drake made antaras from that rbs..
Now you need much more then one pty

They have also much less HP than before (1/3)