Recently people are selling coins to shops that arent really fake. If they set TITLE 17K its not scamm and it wont be punished. Unless they wrote 17kk and buying for 17k (or any other value)
In other words PEOPLE OPEN EYES AND SPEND 45 sec AND READ WHAT SHOP SAYS!!!
A friend's char got permajailed for similar thing... it seems the rules are quite flexible.
Quote from: unhandledexeption on April 05, 2014, 11:39:25 PM
A friend's char got permajailed for similar thing... it seems the rules are quite flexible.
He wasnt jailed for sure if the title was correct and matching prices inside the shop.
Quote from: unhandledexeption on April 05, 2014, 11:39:25 PM
A friend's char got permajailed for similar thing... it seems the rules are quite flexible.
awesome friends u have ;)
I am sure it wasn't ur friend, It was ur Dworf xD
nope, my dorf was jailed only for 1 week 1 month ago ;)
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on April 05, 2014, 11:53:20 PM
He wasnt jailed for sure if the title was correct and matching prices inside the shop.
Maybe the prices wasn't matching... but who decides what is the correct price?
BTW the website item price graphs should exclude the extreme low and high prices, as if someone sells things for 1 adena it makes the graph go crazy...
Quote from: unhandledexeption on April 06, 2014, 11:48:31 AM
nope, my dorf was jailed only for 1 week 1 month ago ;)
Maybe the prices wasn't matching... but who decides what is the correct price?
BTW the website item price graphs should exclude the extreme low and high prices, as if someone sells things for 1 adena it makes the graph go crazy...
that's why exists open/close values.
maybe i will remove min/max from the graph
Quote from: =drake= on April 06, 2014, 01:18:12 PM
that's why exists open/close values.
maybe i will remove min/max from the graph
The graph doesn't excludes the extremes. If i sell 1 stem for 200 kk to my dualbox char, then the graph of the stem price will go up. The graph (not the open close box), should show an average price, excluding the extreme prices that are greatly differing from the most of the transactions.
Quote from: unhandledexeption on April 06, 2014, 02:06:14 PM
The graph doesn't excludes the extremes. If i sell 1 stem for 200 kk to my dualbox char, then the graph of the stem price will go up. The graph (not the open close box), should show an average price, excluding the extreme prices that are greatly differing from the most of the transactions.
You do know how average number formula works?
Sum the numbers then devide them with amount of (shops that have item) in our case. So your dualbox cant actually make average in arithmetic mean.
if there r 200 shops selling item for 20k each, and one guy sell for 20kk each, tell me Track - it will be ~20k or 200*20k+1*20kk/201~=119k?
Quote from: Painkiler on April 06, 2014, 06:20:45 PM
if there r 200 shops selling item for 20k each, and one guy sell for 20kk each, tell me Track - it will be ~20k or 200*20k+1*20kk/201~=119k?
Let me make it example for you for average mean in arithmetic meaning :
10 shops with pieces 1 adena 2 adena ..... 10 adena, you sum up 1+2+3...+10 and divide with 10 , that means average.
you are both wrong :D
min/max as of now IS the min/max as the name states.
While Open/Close instead are the averages of all sells done at begin and end of the day (in fact: open and close of the market)
I think i will change a bit the graph system to use a different approach more useful to players.
Quote from: =drake= on April 06, 2014, 06:47:29 PM
you are both wrong :D
min/max as of now IS the min/max as the name states.
While Open/Close instead are the averages of all sells done at begin and end of the day (in fact: open and close of the market)
I think i will change a bit the graph system to use a different approach more useful to players.
Im not about arithmetic average formula.
see now:
http://www.dragon-network.net/drop/iteminfo.php?name=soulshot_a&server_id=1&from_level=0
http://www.dragon-network.net/drop/iteminfo.php?name=blessed_spiritshot_b&server_id=1&from_level=0
Which is now green was good enough before, with open close data, but now it's a bit easier to select a day. But what is the orange graph?
Quote from: unhandledexeption on April 06, 2014, 07:50:14 PM
Which is now green was good enough before, with open close data, but now it's a bit easier to select a day. But what is the orange graph?
So wait... is better now or no?
The orange line is the trending of the price from global prospective since day 1 (is evaluated over all the transactions).
While the green line (with dots) is specifically showing the average value of that day.
This why, on some items, you dont have "dots" everyday (horn for example)
the green line with dots is better than those rectangles that were before. But the open close information would be still useful next to the average.
I prefered the rectangle myself, but this is easier to read I guess.
I could even put both... for me is indifferent.
i could even use a dot-scattered graph in case or whatever
If you have ideas i am open to suggestion (also related to which info you wanna see)
Quote from: =drake= on April 07, 2014, 06:37:56 PM
I could even put both... for me is indifferent.
i could even use a dot-scattered graph in case or whatever
If you have ideas i am open to suggestion (also related to which info you wanna see)
Well the possibility to filter/reorder by columns (name, lvl, quantity, etc) is one of the main issue I have with your current system. Searching what mob spoil what per level is pretty painfull right now.
Knowing who's the group leader/other group members/minions of said mob (when searching a mob) could also help understanding what your up against directly. Currently I go on other sites for a clearer map and that information (mob group composition).
Well, right now the items are ordered by quantity and then by final % of drop.
see here:
http://www.dragon-network.net/drop/iteminfo.php?name=coarse_bone_powder&server_id=1&from_level=0
i guessed was the most useful ordering but i may have been wrong so... NOW you can click on the column titles of this page and the items are sorted by that column. Let me know if you want the sorting also somewhere else! :D
About the grouping by leader/minions i will look over it.
What else? And graphs?