Hi
First of all, i'd like to say, gratz to the gm team and drake for all the event and updates, that's awesome !
I'd like to propose something because on this server, more then on dragon SP is a real issue...
Let me explain, here when you're 76+ the xp rate is quite low. Meaning since there is dynamic rates of xp and when you sub dragon like i did from 79,++ % and you get 79,xx%, the xp/sp rate is so low that you ends up without any SP. The sub Dragon isn't an official thing and char level 79 are suppose to get enough SP for the Char level 79, not 2class level 79....
I'll take myself for exemple, i did sub yesterday and i had all bd skills 79 i used a horn to sub and i end up 79. Things is even know i got a horn i did massive xp etc... I still can't play my bd/aw cause i don't have any SP and if i want to have all skills i must have 300kk SP which is sick (it's like 2weeks of 6hours farm and i don't really have that time) so for me... i'll have to wait 1 more month to get all the SP needed (spend on my main class, not on my retail so i get to delay my nobless)
All of that comes down to this point, i was wondering. Is there any possibilities that premium horn and horn would give SP when you sub or since you want to have some donation to keep the server alive without giving sick advantage like we saw back in the time on dragon with am+++++ and draco++++. Isn't it possible to get some SP scroll at Donny? I'm sure lots of people would donate for that i mean for exemple 10dc -> 100kk SP. It support the server and help the one that wants to play but have limited time to play...
This is just a suggestion as i said in the title, i personally think it'd be great.
I love the work you're putting in the server alreally, it may not be possible and i realize that but i though that was worth asking :)
See Drake. I told you this topic would appear and here it is. Now lets see if you will stand by your words in dealing with it.
In the early stages the multiplier of SP is higher than the XP rate, but toward lv60 there is a convergence and they align.
This means that some extra SP you already get but i know: not enough for all skills and not enough for two full classes.
Is also true that the subclass system is not meant to be "oneclick, done! all skills!" so there is (expected) a progression also on your subclass where you take your skills based on your personal choice of which one you want first.
Tarantula was never meant to be instant gratification server but a place where you build up your character and your achievements one block at a time.
The SP scroll MAY have a place in the game but not in donny. As a reward for events would make more sense. We will think about it.
Quote from: =drake= on April 06, 2014, 10:15:53 PM
In the early stages the multiplier of SP is higher than the XP rate, but toward lv60 there is a convergence and they align.
This means that some extra SP you already get but i know: not enough for all skills and not enough for two full classes.
Is also true that the subclass system is not meant to be "oneclick, done! all skills!" so there is (expected) a progression also on your subclass where you take your skills based on your personal choice of which one you want first.
Tarantula was never meant to be instant gratification server but a place where you build up your character and your achievements one block at a time.
The SP scroll MAY have a place in the game but not in donny. As a reward for events would make more sense. We will think about it.
I realize that it's not one click all skill and we have to make some choice but the lack of SP is so hard that from 79bd to 79aw with horn i don't even have enough SP for all the blow (and not the 3rd class one)
Kopitz is right with his idea, maybe not 100kk of sp which will be too easy for everyone but 20 or 30kk.
Or maybe you could drastically increase the drop rate of the primeval island Crystal for SP which seems to be really low actually.
Lack of SP is a great motivation to make some farm and work on you newly added subclass. It definetely should stay as it is.
type .expoff and enjoy SP farming on low lvls.
Does it work? Last time I tried .expoff removed both exp and SP gain. Not just exp.
And agree with Zibo on this one. Things here are kinda fast and easy. Market is flooded with stuff, things are not hard to get. SP is like the only long-term thing that keeps the farm going. So Don't make that easy, everyone has to deal with SP problems and chose skills equally, so i find it fair and ballanced.
exp off dont work properly and ofc is not that hard i subbed on 79 with premium had sp for all skills ...
80 and 30%, still not enough SP for all the skills heh. Well its about classes, each one has it different.
yeh May coz i played EE as main :D
Quote from: =drake= on April 06, 2014, 10:15:53 PM
In the early stages the multiplier of SP is higher than the XP rate, but toward lv60 there is a convergence and they align.
This means that some extra SP you already get but i know: not enough for all skills and not enough for two full classes.
Is also true that the subclass system is not meant to be "oneclick, done! all skills!" so there is (expected) a progression also on your subclass where you take your skills based on your personal choice of which one you want first.
Tarantula was never meant to be instant gratification server but a place where you build up your character and your achievements one block at a time.
The SP scroll MAY have a place in the game but not in donny. As a reward for events would make more sense. We will think about it.
Made 80kk SP in 2-3h on PI. Its fine as it it.
P.S: Simple party with OL/WC, 3 nukers, a EE, bp,sws,bd. All A grade. No biggie.
Quote from: NunoPitbull on April 07, 2014, 02:25:25 AM
Made 80kk SP in 2-3h on PI. Its fine as it it.
P.S: Simple party with OL/WC, 3 nukers, a EE, bp,sws,bd. All A grade. No biggie.
First of all your party must be sick last time i went to PI i did 6kk SP in 3hours+- so gratz :P
What if i'm one of those casual player that doesn't have any "big" clan and can't get a party (and also doesn't have the time). As i said the scroll mb a good solution cause not all people have the abilities to farm in PI like that. I'm pretty sure lots of people would be very please if there was an alternative (not only SP scroll, but mb win SP when subbing dragon? i don't know). Cause the problem is you lack of SP, so go farm... So even know i went almost 80% before subbing i used a horn and get 79 50% i still got to go PVE for 2-3 more weeks just to get skills. Even know i alreally leveled up hard, i manage to get a horn etc etc...
And ofc if you want to join a "big" clan, pretty much your char has to be "finish" sub with skills etc...
It's a bit of a never ending circle and the only wait out is farm, farm, farm, farm ://// (that's why i'm asking if there is any possibilities for an alternative solution).
As drake said it's not a automatic all skill and that's awesome that you got to choose, to make the best of your SP and it's awesome. But i think there is a difference between choosing skills to be able to pvp and play your sub asap and having so few SP that you can't even that the essential skill of you sub. Which mean go back farm on your main just like you have no sub :/ :/
Quote from: =drake= on April 06, 2014, 10:15:53 PM
Is also true that the subclass system is not meant to be "oneclick, done! all skills!" so there is (expected) a progression also on your subclass where you take your skills based on your personal choice of which one you want first.
Yes that's true, but the problem is : to reach to the point where you can use a horn and sub, you HAVE to take skills on your main
Lets say NO.