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Title: Skill enchant once again
Post by: mlhungary8 on April 10, 2014, 09:25:03 AM
You closed my previous topic (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,282709.0.html) saying something about event items ^^

Could you give any sort of chart ( for this chronicle) that contains the correct % on skill enchant and character levels?
I find it hard to believe that i have the same % on lvl79 and 80 to make a skill +7 or even +8.

It was 70% to +7 and 68% to +8. Same skill, same class (shouldn't matter anyway)
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: mlhungary8 on April 10, 2014, 10:14:32 PM
Quote from: mlhungary8 on April 10, 2014, 09:25:03 AM
You closed my previous topic (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,282709.0.html) saying something about event items ^^

Could you give any sort of chart ( for this chronicle) that contains the correct % on skill enchant and character levels?
I find it hard to believe that i have the same % on lvl79 and 80 to make a skill +7 or even +8.

It was 70% to +7 and 68% to +8. Same skill, same class (shouldn't matter anyway)

BUMP
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: =drake= on April 11, 2014, 12:27:02 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdG1rOHJTV08tbU14Y1A3aHB5U1NGYUE&usp=sharing#gid=0
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: Peorexo on April 11, 2014, 12:30:50 AM
Quote from: =drake= on April 11, 2014, 12:27:02 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdG1rOHJTV08tbU14Y1A3aHB5U1NGYUE&usp=sharing#gid=0
why this table is not even close to our ingame values? :D
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: =drake= on April 11, 2014, 12:35:08 AM
Quote from: Peorexo on April 11, 2014, 12:30:50 AM
why this table is not even close to our ingame values? :D

Is extracted directly from the server so is 100% what you get ingame.
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: mlhungary8 on April 11, 2014, 01:04:33 AM
It's ok till lvl 78, but not above. On lvl80 i still have 68% chance to enchant my skill to+8. Please take a look into that.
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: SizeMatters on April 11, 2014, 02:55:37 AM
http://i.imgur.com/CE0gMqa.jpg

Won't even say how many bogs i lost with simply wrong enchant skill table, but i know there is no chance to get them back so i wont even ask, anyway fix it plz.
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: =drake= on April 11, 2014, 03:21:11 AM
that chance you see is clientside.
OFFICIALLY lv78-79-80 have all same success rate in INTERLUDE (and is ridiculously low, basically see my graph and just stop at the 78 column).
This is one of the various things that official servers got totally wrong and went fixed in later chronicle.

We use for enchants the curve of HB (lv79 and 80 have higher chances) as makes much more sense considering the skills resistances based by skill level (i wrote it in the table too)

I am sorry for your lost enchants but is already better than what should be.
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: Peorexo on April 11, 2014, 09:29:29 AM
Quote from: SizeMatters on April 11, 2014, 02:55:37 AM
http://i.imgur.com/CE0gMqa.jpg

Won't even say how many bogs i lost with simply wrong enchant skill table, but i know there is no chance to get them back so i wont even ask, anyway fix it plz.
thats +1
Quote from: =drake= on April 11, 2014, 03:21:11 AM
that chance you see is clientside.
OFFICIALLY lv78-79-80 have all same success rate in INTERLUDE (and is ridiculously low, basically see my graph and just stop at the 78 column).
This is one of the various things that official servers got totally wrong and went fixed in later chronicle.

We use for enchants the curve of HB (lv79 and 80 have higher chances) as makes much more sense considering the skills resistances based by skill level (i wrote it in the table too)

I am sorry for your lost enchants but is already better than what should be.
But for sure the hb curve wasnt working till yday as i was saying, i broke milion skills w/o even getting +5/6 etc and i was enchanting 80lv only.
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on April 11, 2014, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: Peorexo on April 11, 2014, 09:29:29 AM
thats +1But for sure the hb curve wasnt working till yday as i was saying, i broke milion skills w/o even getting +5/6 etc and i was enchanting 80lv only.
Jebany enchant kurwa!
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: Cypr on April 11, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on April 11, 2014, 10:10:37 AM
Jebany enchant kurwa!
o kurwa  ;D
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on April 11, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
Quote from: Cypr on April 11, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
o kurwa  ;D
maç
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: Rufus on April 11, 2014, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on April 11, 2014, 10:10:37 AM
Jebany enchant kurwa!

Jeblem xD
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: mlhungary8 on April 11, 2014, 01:01:22 PM
Do you really have to spam a topic like this?

So drake you are saying that the rates are like in the table and our client gives fake info?
It worked like that since the server started?
I'm gonna try few enchants. If it's suspicious, I'd like to volunteer for a test :)
I'll make the test with 1k BOGs and write the result, just support me with a char and BOGs :)
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: =drake= on April 11, 2014, 04:08:05 PM
I can support you with a smile :)
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: mlhungary8 on April 11, 2014, 04:40:52 PM
Quote from: =drake= on April 11, 2014, 04:08:05 PM
I can support you with a smile :)

lol'd

You skipped the questions tho'.
The chances are like the table and client gives us fake info on lvl79 and 80?
It works like that since the server started?

And probably you get me wrong, I don't want to keep the char with enchanted skills, I just want to test it for you/myself/server.
I'm not gonna waste BOGs/xp on my own for tests which shouldn't be made.
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: Oo on April 11, 2014, 07:04:40 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on April 11, 2014, 10:10:37 AM
Jebany enchant kurwa!
loled  8)
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: =drake= on April 11, 2014, 08:06:25 PM
Quote from: mlhungary8 on April 11, 2014, 04:40:52 PM
lol'd

You skipped the questions tho'.
The chances are like the table and client gives us fake info on lvl79 and 80?
It works like that since the server started?

And probably you get me wrong, I don't want to keep the char with enchanted skills, I just want to test it for you/myself/server.
I'm not gonna waste BOGs/xp on my own for tests which shouldn't be made.

There is nothing to be tested, we are not a testserver few forum spammers likes to say :)
The table is accurate 100%
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: mlhungary8 on April 11, 2014, 08:20:56 PM
Quote from: =drake= on April 11, 2014, 08:06:25 PM
There is nothing to be tested, we are not a testserver few forum spammers likes to say :)
The table is accurate 100%
Okay
Do you mind changing the NPCs to give real info?

edit:
And it's not about being a testserver, but testing stuff if they work like they should.
I see nothing but advantages.
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: mlhungary8 on April 12, 2014, 01:18:23 PM
Quote from: mlhungary8 on April 11, 2014, 08:20:56 PM
Okay
Do you mind changing the NPCs to give real info?

edit:
And it's not about being a testserver, but testing stuff if they work like they should.
I see nothing but advantages.
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: =drake= on April 12, 2014, 02:08:17 PM
i will see for clientside fix but really, is just cosmetic.
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: mlhungary8 on April 12, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: =drake= on April 12, 2014, 02:08:17 PM
i will see for clientside fix but really, is just cosmetic.
For me and people who read this topic, ye.
But it'd be much more better to see actual info
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: Oo on April 12, 2014, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: =drake= on April 11, 2014, 08:06:25 PM
There is nothing to be tested, we are not a testserver few forum spammers likes to say :)
The table is accurate 100%
80 lvl wasted ~20% and i got max +7!  :o
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: SizeMatters on April 12, 2014, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: Oo on April 12, 2014, 02:49:10 PM
80 lvl wasted ~20% and i got max +7!  :o

i Lost 60% on 79 and managed to do only 1 skill above +7 so the table and real values seems to be diffrent
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: mlhungary8 on April 12, 2014, 03:28:09 PM
Just used 10 BOGs.
Results:
2 skills +7
4 fails TO +7
Fail to +2,+6,+4 and +4

I know this is short run, but still. Weird.
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: blblblblblbl on April 13, 2014, 10:52:54 PM
http://l2wiki.com/Skill_Enchanting , i know it show H5 enchanting, but still % are same
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: mlhungary8 on April 13, 2014, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: blblblblblbl on April 13, 2014, 10:52:54 PM
http://l2wiki.com/Skill_Enchanting , i know it show H5 enchanting, but still % are same
So try it :)
Title: Re: Skill enchant once again
Post by: Garn. on April 14, 2014, 01:13:21 AM
Quote from: blblblblblbl on April 13, 2014, 10:52:54 PM
http://l2wiki.com/Skill_Enchanting , i know it show H5 enchanting, but still % are same
just checked, skill from +7 to +8 at lvl 79 is 68% here, on that site is 78%