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Title: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: ciasnyviesiek on April 19, 2014, 11:24:20 AM
discuss. After farming adena for nearly 1-2months I decided to make a char and I'm struggling between pw/sws and aw/se, I'd like to hear your opinions about them

discuss
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: HeroAW on April 19, 2014, 11:57:44 AM
1. both heroes taken
2.  sws is sws, u won't get pt as aw/se
3.  what for u need char, dagger is dagger just different buffset and sws can wear heavy like a boss
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: ciasnyviesiek on April 19, 2014, 12:19:06 PM
Quote from: HeroAW on April 19, 2014, 11:57:44 AM
1. both heroes taken
2.  sws is sws, u won't get pt as aw/se
3.  what for u need char, dagger is dagger just different buffset and sws can wear heavy like a boss
I play mostly solo with pp on my back while grinding, char mostly for some 1vsX, not mass pvps.
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: remeron on April 19, 2014, 01:05:54 PM
I played with both these combos,
pw/sws is undoubtedly better, take a bd/se behind u and u are good..and btw dont wear heavy...
its just that song mana consumption might be an issue for a dagger..u have to be perfect with timing..
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: ciasnyviesiek on April 19, 2014, 01:09:40 PM
Quote from: remeron on April 19, 2014, 01:05:54 PM
I played with both these combos,
pw/sws is undoubtedly better, take a bd/se behind u and u are good..and btw dont wear heavy...
its just that song mana consumption might be an issue for a dagger..u have to be perfect with timing..
thanks for reply, I'll take it into consideration.
Waiting for more opinions.
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: Blizzer on April 19, 2014, 01:14:28 PM
At this chronicle pw/sws > aw/se.
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: remeron on April 19, 2014, 01:21:32 PM
a sws has everything a dagger needs; song for defs, reuse, less mana consumption, speed, agility etc.
be advised not to overbuff yourself with p.atak, crit rate, berserk, accuracy buffs...unless you are exping with a plenty of buffslot....
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: ciasnyviesiek on April 19, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
ok thank you guys. I was sure to do aw/se than pw/sws and made it to 20lvl but something came across my mind to better ask here then regret later while I dont have much time to play.

remeron what u mean by overbuff? all buffs from all classes I think?
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: Peorexo on April 19, 2014, 01:52:22 PM
Quote from: ciasnyviesiek on April 19, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
ok thank you guys. I was sure to do aw/se than pw/sws and made it to 20lvl but something came across my mind to better ask here then regret later while I dont have much time to play.

remeron what u mean by overbuff? all buffs from all classes I think?
u can have max of 20 buffs +4 max, that mean u cant use everything
And imo pw/sws is better than aw/se if it goes about char strenghts, se gives u nothing in this chronicle tbh, i'd rather go for aw/bd or aw/ps with this cool cubic
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: remeron on April 19, 2014, 02:00:25 PM
Quote from: ciasnyviesiek on April 19, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
ok thank you guys. I was sure to do aw/se than pw/sws and made it to 20lvl but something came across my mind to better ask here then regret later while I dont have much time to play.

remeron what u mean by overbuff? all buffs from all classes I think?

It means use them when u have free slot...don't use them when u can find better buffs...buff choice is not the issue right now, u are only 20 : )....u need p.atak and crit rate for exp....not for pvp...
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: ciasnyviesiek on April 19, 2014, 02:56:12 PM
ok cool, I'll stick with pw/sws now. What about dyes? and AW's hex/power break debuffs in terms of pvp?
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: remeron on April 19, 2014, 03:26:39 PM
when I exp with dagger I go for +str -con, (because you know, a dagger also depend on melee damage when exping)...or none dye at all, dye is not that much of a factor for an exping dagger...
and when I am done exping, I use +dex -str

you better not bother with casting power break or hex... being magic skills, these debuffs depend on INT and WIT, takes long for a fighter to cast it...
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: HeroAW on April 19, 2014, 03:28:47 PM
Quote from: Blizzer on April 19, 2014, 01:14:28 PM
At this chronicle pw/sws > aw/se.
and what about your 2points th/pp? :<
btw 1shoted  hero pw/sws with aw/se @oly

and yes, hex is epic
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: ciasnyviesiek on April 19, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
 ??? some other opinions?
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: Peorexo on April 19, 2014, 03:48:46 PM
Quote from: HeroAW on April 19, 2014, 03:28:47 PM
and what about your 2points th/pp? :<
btw 1shoted  hero pw/sws with aw/se @oly

and yes, hex is epic
And in the first month i killed u with th/wl @hiddenOPinoly?
:D in fact u got full dmg setup on aw/se but pw/sws atleast imo is much better overall in terms of street pvp in oly (usefull in party too)
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: Blizzer on April 19, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
Quote from: HeroAW on April 19, 2014, 03:28:47 PM
and what about your 2points th/pp? :<
btw 1shoted  hero pw/sws with aw/se @oly

and yes, hex is epic
I don't avoid uncomfortable opponents like you do, so fights vs glads and tyrants were quite obvious without 79 lvl skills.
btw during my oly career I 1-shot like thousand lads, so sorry - not amused
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: Naiz on April 19, 2014, 06:03:18 PM
Quote from: Blizzer on April 19, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
I don't avoid uncomfortable opponents like you do, so fights vs glads and tyrants were quite obvious without 79 lvl skills.
btw during my oly career I 1-shot like thousand lads, so sorry - not amused

Your "oly career" means nothing here. You need to use your brain on this server to obtain points, which means "avoiding uncomfortable opponents". Seems that using brain on oly was too much for you, since you left this server already.
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: Blizzer on April 19, 2014, 06:39:06 PM
Avoiding means that you are scared for few points, don't hide it behind 'using brain' thing.
And I stopped playing, not left. Don't worry, my comeback will come quite soon.
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: Naiz on April 19, 2014, 06:57:52 PM
Quote from: Blizzer on April 19, 2014, 06:39:06 PM
Avoiding means that you are scared for few points, don't hide it behind 'using brain' thing.
And I stopped playing, not left. Don't worry, my comeback will come quite soon.

Well, i really hope that you can make syndicate a factor clan on this server.
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: ciasnyviesiek on April 19, 2014, 07:08:44 PM
hey boys keep it clean, let's speak about those 2 chars not about single quarrels who killed who.
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: Blizzer on April 19, 2014, 10:50:28 PM
When you are too famous you drag all the attention, wish you the same  8) Anyway imo all was said in that matter.
Quote from: Naiz on April 19, 2014, 06:57:52 PM
Well, i really hope that you can make syndicate a factor clan on this server.
I'm not the leader anymore.
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: Garn. on April 20, 2014, 12:42:57 AM
Quote from: Naiz on April 19, 2014, 06:57:52 PM
Well, i really hope that you can make syndicate a factor clan on this server.
not gonna happen.
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: ciasnyviesiek on April 20, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
so guys, overall you would rather make pw/sws than aw/se? what about aw's debuffs like hex? is it useful in single pvps like oly, or fight will be that short that it will be useless?
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: Blizzer on April 20, 2014, 12:54:10 PM
Hex on oly with aw casting? In IL you can't make +wit dye on d elf fighter stats, you don't have acu so while casting hex = smart dagger will switch you, smart mage will aura flash, glad/tyr will kill you with 1-2 skills xd
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: HeroAW on April 20, 2014, 01:06:22 PM
Quote from: ciasnyviesiek on April 20, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
so guys, overall you would rather make pw/sws than aw/se? what about aw's debuffs like hex? is it useful in single pvps like oly, or fight will be that short that it will be useless?
u can hex anything in any situation and it lands pretty well with empower buff that u got, and ofc u can +wit dyes.

I would make sws tho, as I told aw/se wont find any pt. I made since I started SE for some reason.
Title: Re: pw/sws vs aw/se
Post by: ciasnyviesiek on April 20, 2014, 01:41:42 PM
great, thank you guys. Topic can be closed.