Non empowered tattoo lvl 4 = 6 hours
empowered tattoo lvl 4 = 6 hours
Imo is little bit stupid that empowered tattoo is for 6 hours like non empowered...
It should be longer 8-10 hours or the best be all time , w/o end time
Quote from: last hunter on May 04, 2014, 09:29:07 PM
Non empowered tattoo lvl 4 = 6 hours
empowered tattoo lvl 4 = 6 hours
Imo is little bit stupid that empowered tattoo is for 6 hours like non empowered...
It should be longer 8-10 hours or the best be all time , w/o end time
+1
Quote from: last hunter on May 04, 2014, 09:29:07 PM
Non empowered tattoo lvl 4 = 6 hours
empowered tattoo lvl 4 = 6 hours
Imo is little bit stupid that empowered tattoo is for 6 hours like non empowered...
It should be longer 8-10 hours or the best be all time , w/o end time
Good point Drake check this ;D
Exactly! Reduce non-empowered lv4 time to 4h. :D
What I would like to see in turn is alternative way(s) to get empowered tattoos. Most of the Vials are probably exploited all the way anyway (situation from today: 'xxx striked ultra kill', 'yyy striked ultra kill' both repeated multiple times in a row - I'm guessing it was such GoE "farm").
Is there a chance for some more legit ways to propose?
- xxxx Blank Scrolls
- SC 11
- Red Gems (or other tradable QI item from global quests)
- or the best idea I can think of: farm quest to revive a spot by making it potential PvP zone vide Blazing Swamp because of MSS (random spot idea: non-3rd class quest mobs on HS, because PvPs were always great there)
Say what you want, but the last option I would see as something, that way more people would participate to, in comparison to GoE.
Quote from: last hunter on May 04, 2014, 09:29:07 PM
Non empowered tattoo lvl 4 = 6 hours
empowered tattoo lvl 4 = 6 hours
Imo is little bit stupid that empowered tattoo is for 6 hours like non empowered...
It should be longer 8-10 hours or the best be all time , w/o end time
+1
and i think regeneration time of tatto should be cheaper to make for evryone
They are both level 4 for a reason: duration
Emp is already a "refill" by itself as the cost to make emp from a lv4 is less than make a new lv4
Additionally emp is not for everyone as it adds an additional drawback to the equation.
You can get 3 vials plus lot of enchants and lifestones directly from the raidbosses of goe. Daily! (and they got easier)
Quote from: =drake= on May 05, 2014, 02:22:40 AM
They are both level 4 for a reason: duration
Emp is already a "refill" by itself as the cost to make emp from a lv4 is less than make a new lv4
Additionally emp is not for everyone as it adds an additional drawback to the equation.
You can get 3 vials plus lot of enchants and lifestones directly from the raidbosses of goe. Daily! (and they got easier)
The monkey boss is unkilable:D
Drake, make old system tattoo w/o end time and it will better
Quote from: =drake= on May 05, 2014, 02:22:40 AM
They are both level 4 for a reason: duration
Emp is already a "refill" by itself as the cost to make emp from a lv4 is less than make a new lv4
Additionally emp is not for everyone as it adds an additional drawback to the equation.
You can get 3 vials plus lot of enchants and lifestones directly from the raidbosses of goe. Daily! (and they got easier)
Soory for oftopic but i cant reach you anywhere...since you dont read private messages...
can you help me with this situation ?
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,283250.0.html
Thank you.
don't make w/o time, now all need mats for tatoo, tatoo end, and buy once agian mats.. this is good for market. :)
Quote from: Naiz on May 05, 2014, 10:22:09 AM
The monkey boss is unkilable:D
Hint1: The monkey boss is extremely weak against magic.
Hint2: The monkey boss have all short range skills
Hint3: You can start with orcs at early stage to chew out HP fast, but once first two rage status triggers you need switch to tank+healer. Best with a tank with Tattoo of Wall (lv3 should be enough, higher is better of course). Mages can do quite good damage against him. Anyway you must do the killing fast (before it goes in full rage then it gets really hard)
Quote from: =drake= on May 05, 2014, 12:13:08 PM
Hint1: The monkey boss is extremely weak against magic.
Hint2: The monkey boss have all short range skills
Hint3: You can start with orcs at early stage to chew out HP fast, but once first two rage status triggers you need switch to tank+healer. Best with a tank with Tattoo of Wall (lv3 should be enough, higher is better of course). Mages can do quite good damage against him. Anyway you must do the killing fast (before it goes in full rage then it gets really hard)
Rabia? ;D
Quote from: =drake= on May 05, 2014, 02:22:40 AM
They are both level 4 for a reason: duration
Emp is already a "refill" by itself as the cost to make emp from a lv4 is less than make a new lv4
Additionally emp is not for everyone as it adds an additional drawback to the equation.
You can get 3 vials plus lot of enchants and lifestones directly from the raidbosses of goe. Daily! (and they got easier)
Drake Im rly happy that you are still working and trying to make new interesting content to game. But... How long it will take you to realize that majority of oldschool players dont like new tattoo system in comparation to old one ? If you dont belive than try to set Pool good old tatoos vs new shadow tatoos. Im pretty sure how it would end. ;)
Cheers
PS: I think its one of reasons why some ammount of people left soon after start. I mean not only tattoos. This server draged attention of many players from old Interlude DN times and they came to play it again. They wanted to play good old Infinty like server but they got similar server with many different settings. Think about it please ;)
Quote from: Trp on May 07, 2014, 10:05:34 AM
Drake Im rly happy that you are still working and trying to make new interesting content to game. But... How long it will take you to realize that majority of oldschool players dont like new tattoo system in comparation to old one ? If you dont belive than try to set Pool good old tatoos vs new shadow tatoos. Im pretty sure how it would end. ;)
Cheers
PS: I think its one of reasons why some ammount of people left soon after start. I mean not only tattoos. This server draged attention of many players from old Interlude DN times and they came to play it again. They wanted to play good old Infinty like server but they got similar server with many different settings. Think about it please ;)
majority of old players isnt even close to 10% of DN Tara community right now.
I actually like the current tattoo system, the only problem is that u cant SKIP leveling 1-4 for example and u have to do one by one everytime
Quote from: Peorexo on May 07, 2014, 10:21:20 AM
majority of old players isnt even close to 10% of DN Tara community right now.
I actually like the current tattoo system, the only problem is that u cant SKIP leveling 1-4 for example and u have to do one by one everytime
I dissagree, I see daily many ppl from old Infinity / Dragon / Nm. And at half cases of ppl I never saw I find out its alt of someone I know from Infi/dragon/nm. :)
Quote from: Trp on May 07, 2014, 10:05:34 AM
Drake Im rly happy that you are still working and trying to make new interesting content to game. But... How long it will take you to realize that majority of oldschool players dont like new tattoo system in comparation to old one ? If you dont belive than try to set Pool good old tatoos vs new shadow tatoos. Im pretty sure how it would end. ;)
Cheers
PS: I think its one of reasons why some ammount of people left soon after start. I mean not only tattoos. This server draged attention of many players from old Interlude DN times and they came to play it again. They wanted to play good old Infinty like server but they got similar server with many different settings. Think about it please ;)
Tattos are not a requirement and gives you an edge only during pure competitive gameplay (serious pvp)
Tattos effect is passive and requires zero skills (but if you do fast intensive tattoo switching, then will imply some keypressing. So far i never saw serious use of this practice beside dps-to-mana switching)
so, you should see tattos like an extra buff of choice in exchange for mats. And as all buffs: they have an end.
Incidentally it also boosts the economy of the game keeping mats in circulation on all levels.
So Remove tattoos and it will be good, if you dont want old system.
Quote from: =drake= on May 07, 2014, 11:20:49 AM
Tattos are not a requirement and gives you an edge only during pure competitive gameplay (serious pvp)
Tattos effect is passive and requires zero skills (but if you do fast intensive tattoo switching, then will imply some keypressing. So far i never saw serious use of this practice beside dps-to-mana switching)
so, you should see tattos like an extra buff of choice in exchange for mats. And as all buffs: they have an end.
Incidentally it also boosts the economy of the game keeping mats in circulation on all levels.
couldnt u make smth to make this tattoo's leveling easier?
I mean if i've just bought tattoo lv1 and im going to upgrade it, then i see already lv2,lv3,lv4 immediately so i can choose at once what lvl i want to make (ofc with cumulative amount of mats there)
Quote from: =drake= on May 07, 2014, 11:20:49 AM
Tattos are not a requirement and gives you an edge only during pure competitive gameplay (serious pvp)
Tattos effect is passive and requires zero skills (but if you do fast intensive tattoo switching, then will imply some keypressing. So far i never saw serious use of this practice beside dps-to-mana switching)
so, you should see tattos like an extra buff of choice in exchange for mats. And as all buffs: they have an end.
Incidentally it also boosts the economy of the game keeping mats in circulation on all levels.
Thanx for expanation how tattoos work and how to use them. Neverthless it doesnt answer my questions at all. I wanted to know if you are going to do something with fact, that negative opinions about this tattoo system > possitive opinions from community.
Since some QQ was enough to change rates I would like to know if something changes with tattoos if we make some organized gangQQ thread :p
bring back the old dragon tatto system and every1 will be happy.
Quote from: Naiz on May 07, 2014, 02:05:51 PM
bring back the old dragon tatto system and every1 will be happy.
nope
Remove every kind of tattoos except mana ones.
Who is with me? :>
Quote from: HeroAW on May 07, 2014, 03:21:31 PM
nope
Except you, cuz you're gonna commit suicide sooner or later judging by your voice xD
Quote from: somasz on May 07, 2014, 03:32:42 PM
Remove every kind of tattoos except mana ones.
Who is with me? :>
+1.
Same Tattoos that actually are with old system would be nice.
OLD system = no refill
PS:Dont ever remove tattoos..
Removing will reduce the number of choices avilable, is always better to have more choices, maybe the lvl 4 emp tattoo could be changed to 1 week duration but with more mats needed to craft it, for example: 25 Gemstones S, 250 Crystal S-Grade and 250k Anciet Adena, or something like this. Wouldn't you like it?
This might boost the hunt for Ancient Adena too, since there isn't a really high exchange/request of it, as far as I've seen. People complain that farming S-Grade is hard, so if more AA comes in the stores, that would make S-Grade creation more easy (at least the unsealing process).
Quote from: LeonidaSUX on May 10, 2014, 04:48:58 AM
Removing will reduce the number of choices avilable, is always better to have more choices, maybe the lvl 4 emp tattoo could be changed to 1 week duration but with more mats needed to craft it, for example: 25 Gemstones S, 250 Crystal S-Grade and 250k Anciet Adena, or something like this. Wouldn't you like it?
no. there are some ppl who play only few hours a day, so they would be screwed up.
The thing that really makes me sad when i go town,is seeing Vial epic thing being selled to refill tattoo,with same icon as Combat Haste Potion witch was taken from us dogs...so sad seeing a Combat Haste and cant even use it like...I miss my combat hates dogs..
Ya niggas should ARF ARF for this
Quote from: Kabally on May 11, 2014, 07:20:02 AM
The thing that really makes me sad when i go town,is seeing Vial epic thing being selled to refill tattoo,with same icon as Combat Haste Potion witch was taken from us dogs...so sad seeing a Combat Haste and cant even use it like...I miss my combat hates dogs..
Ya niggas should ARF ARF for this
kavally is your sis still free? :D
Quote from: andreww on May 11, 2014, 10:28:18 AM
kavally is your sis still free? :D
She does bro,all for you.
The reason why tattoos are not permanent is that, to make them permanent, would means that the price should be 20-30 times the actual price (considering the bonus you get that requires zero skills as is fully passive)
But that would have been extremely bad as:
a) you buy the wrong tattoo and you are screwed with money big time
b) you cant try them all because would be too expensive
With the consumption like now is possible for everyone to buy and try all the tattoos, test and experiment combinations/strategies and effectively pay for what you use.
Quote from: =drake= on May 11, 2014, 09:22:22 PM
The reason why tattoos are not permanent is that, to make them permanent, would means that the price should be 20-30 times the actual price (considering the bonus you get that requires zero skills as is fully passive)
But that would have been extremely bad as:
a) you buy the wrong tattoo and you are screwed with money big time
b) you cant try them all because would be too expensive
With the consumption like now is possible for everyone to buy and try all the tattoos, test and experiment combinations/strategies and effectively pay for what you use.
Quote from: somasz on May 07, 2014, 03:32:42 PM
Remove every kind of tattoos except mana ones.
Who is with me? :>
Quote from: =drake= on May 11, 2014, 09:22:22 PM
The reason why tattoos are not permanent is that, to make them permanent, would means that the price should be 20-30 times the actual price (considering the bonus you get that requires zero skills as is fully passive)
But that would have been extremely bad as:
a) you buy the wrong tattoo and you are screwed with money big time
b) you cant try them all because would be too expensive
With the consumption like now is possible for everyone to buy and try all the tattoos, test and experiment combinations/strategies and effectively pay for what you use.
And is there any way to make it lose effect on 0 mana, but not disappear? We are humans, there will be always some "forgot to unequip" scenarios, wouldn't be a big difference, but a useful feature.
Quote from: =drake= on May 11, 2014, 09:22:22 PM
The reason why tattoos are not permanent is that, to make them permanent, would means that the price should be 20-30 times the actual price (considering the bonus you get that requires zero skills as is fully passive)
But that would have been extremely bad as:
a) you buy the wrong tattoo and you are screwed with money big time
b) you cant try them all because would be too expensive
With the consumption like now is possible for everyone to buy and try all the tattoos, test and experiment combinations/strategies and effectively pay for what you use.
And how about add both to shops? a permanent and this what is right now. People can try them,and if they are happy with it,they can buy it and use it as long as they wish? Simple as that
Perma tatoo for 40 coins
Quote from: Stormix88 on May 15, 2014, 04:02:09 PM
Perma tatoo for 40 coins
Not only for coins,for some items too,
Quote from: lasin on May 15, 2014, 04:17:33 PM
Not only for coins,for some items too,
u need to make all 4 tatoos before u can exchange it on donny for perma
What about that only lv4 (not emp) can become permanent by paying 1 vial + soul crystal + 200 marks? ::)
Quote from: =drake= on May 16, 2014, 01:46:32 PM
What about that only lv4 (not emp) can become permanent by paying 1 vial + soul crystal + 200 marks? ::)
People aint crying about mats...they crying about the 8 COINS.
Be real
Quote from: =drake= on May 16, 2014, 01:46:32 PM
What about that only lv4 (not emp) can become permanent by paying 1 vial + soul crystal + 200 marks? ::)
thats good idea, but if we wanna emp's we have to make it normal way again yeah? so we dont empower perma tattoo by mistake ^.^
Quote from: =drake= on May 16, 2014, 01:46:32 PM
What about that only lv4 (not emp) can become permanent by paying 1 vial + soul crystal + 200 marks? ::)
Server need money...
Tato for coins + vial ect
Quote from: Kabally on May 16, 2014, 01:48:33 PM
People aint crying about mats...they crying about the 8 COINS.
Be real
paying 8 coins is only the 2nd possibilty to get emp tattos,GOE is always open for all of you guys.
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on May 16, 2014, 02:13:09 PM
paying 8 coins is only the 2nd possibilty to get emp tattos,GOE is always open for all of you guys.
You could post something new
Not being rude u know ,just saying
Quote from: Kabally on May 16, 2014, 02:18:51 PM
You could post something new
Not being rude u know ,just saying
i know its not something new,but it seems ppls still dont go there.
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on May 16, 2014, 02:20:06 PM
i know its not something new,but it seems ppls still dont go there.
But look,what hapen in life when something u cant change dont change?
You fight for,what hapen in life when u want something?You fight for.
Those people here,that some of them waste 8 hours a day with this game,they have nothing much to talk about game cuz everything looks nice,but this tattoo dude ! GG
I be honest and im also tired of talk about it..since the begging i saw gms moving when players only left..
I have 3 diferent clans to pvp =S dont know rly,time will asnwer.
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Quote from: Morel on May 16, 2014, 02:39:44 PM
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For real dog...never hapen to me but when happens to friends they get rly crazy ass niggggs in ts
i used 3h of my mahum emp in giran and i don't cry about it on forum;d
Quote from: =drake= on May 16, 2014, 01:46:32 PM
What about that only lv4 (not emp) can become permanent by paying 1 vial + soul crystal + 200 marks? ::)
what about removing them and keep only mana tattoo? (which can be refilled by something easier than vial. i mean easier for casual players)
Quote from: Garn. on May 16, 2014, 03:03:38 PM
what about removing them and keep only mana tattoo? (which can be refilled by something easier than vial. i mean easier for casual players)
This is an mmo. The more time you have, the faster you get the content. You can't afford emp tattoo? Don't use it. Ppl looking for equality > try CoD.
Quote from: Garn. on May 16, 2014, 03:03:38 PM
what about removing them and keep only mana tattoo? (which can be refilled by something easier than vial. i mean easier for casual players)
its wiser to ask for a tattoo nerf.
Quote from: Csenky on May 16, 2014, 03:35:42 PM
This is an mmo. The more time you have, the faster you get the content. You can't afford emp tattoo? Don't use it. Ppl looking for equality > try CoD.
i'm saying to keep only mana and be able to refill it. rest of tattooes,gone.
Remove them? WTF
Die loser,no remove,just keep them