oly farmers leave clan and transfare again .this is stupid make oly like was before
if you want to stop transfare make like dragon oly people with same points to fight between them
put 9 people must be signed to start match from diferend ips all
better if u change erase at fighters to lower change and give back manaburn to casting speed reuse ... bcs its lol
lol i never saw player like u buffsong,,, u are all time crying for somthing,,,, every week u make minimum 1 topic..... wake up ,,,and show your skills, every1 its playing on this server with the same rules,,,,
Quote from: MrEddie on August 31, 2014, 06:52:13 AM
lol i never saw player like u buffsong,,, u are all time crying for somthing,,,, every week u make minimum 1 topic..... wake up ,,,and show your skills, every1 its playing on this server with the same rules,,,,
eddie you like oly system now ?do you think is needed to leave clan to transfare chars i think is no needed rezult is same /do you like mana burn reuse 30 sec ?/do you like mana tatoos on oly / do you like that when you enter with mage in oly to have ww buff and when you enter with fighter to have haste and ww ?
i dont cry i just want to be fair for all and people to stay on server not to leave
After we implement weekly based oly, those filters will be undone.
Yet im still surprised that people would leave a clan just to do an oly transfer...
what you are surpzed this is logic after we are reged with 10 chars from clan and we dont have count is close to brain oly farmer need to be clanles to can transfare to chars from his clan look oly and you will see half exi chars clanless for transfare .
i tell you ones again . oly transfare is parto fo game and is clan tacktick no sigle player game all clan invest items to make oly farmer clan with more oly farmers have more heroes (some chars cant kill nobody in oly how they
will become heroes without transfare).
you need to do some things about oly balance if you want to keep some balance if you want to keep tattoos on oly
1 back reuse of mana burn and nuke skills
2 put some elpies for necros to oly coliseum to can sumon again sumons
like was before long time in dragon
3 when mage enter oly to recive acumen and ww like fighter recive ww and haste
4 if you dont want do 1 2 and 3 steps remove all tatoos on oly or only (mana tatoo and mahum)
I wonder why you HAVE to transfert,you cant win in a normal way?
dont try to fight smth you can not win. transfer was at olly from day1 so :D
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on August 31, 2014, 01:16:55 PM
I wonder why you HAVE to transfert,you cant win in a normal way?
oly is business same like manor, rules are same for all why they cry about it? they can transfare too
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on August 31, 2014, 01:16:55 PM
I wonder why you HAVE to transfert,you cant win in a normal way?
hah :)
Quote from: _okazaki_ on August 31, 2014, 06:54:39 PM
hah :)
Don't be like that guys.
You know that oly is full of Glad/pp. In mage , only bp/wk can beet glad/pp , others class are...
An exemple , how an archer , is supposed to be heroe by himself? Impossible
Same for sh , sk , se , bd , and some other classes same..
They are able to be heroe only by transfert , or try heroe with 1-5 pts. Be realist.
It's easy to laught on some one "you can't win by yourself" , ofc they can't , cause in Interlude it's like that , some class's are useless in oly..
So try something to fix it. Or let the transfert , fake heroe continue..
Quote from: Braskah on August 31, 2014, 07:02:39 PM
Don't be like that guys.
You know that oly is full of Glad/pp. In mage , only bp/wk can beet glad/pp , others class are...
An exemple , how an archer , is supposed to be heroe by himself? Impossible
Same for sh , sk , se , bd , and some other classes same..
They are able to be heroe only by transfert , or try heroe with 1-5 pts. Be realist.
It's easy to laught on some one "you can't win by yourself" , ofc they can't , cause in Interlude it's like that , some class's are useless in oly..
So try something to fix it. Or let the transfert , fake heroe continue..
interlude balance is bad, but on substack it's absolute shit.
It would be cool if you could play as 1 class in oly, like temporarily disable ur other substacked class skills ( while inside oly ).
It was like that on Valkyria. Main w/o sub , but they changed it so fast... It was really good.
Now its impossible to do that.^^
Quote from: Braskah on August 31, 2014, 07:02:39 PM
Don't be like that guys.
You know that oly is full of Glad/pp. In mage , only bp/wk can beet glad/pp , others class are...
An exemple , how an archer , is supposed to be heroe by himself? Impossible
Same for sh , sk , se , bd , and some other classes same..
They are able to be heroe only by transfert , or try heroe with 1-5 pts. Be realist.
It's easy to laught on some one "you can't win by yourself" , ofc they can't , cause in Interlude it's like that , some class's are useless in oly..
So try something to fix it. Or let the transfert , fake heroe continue..
Why balance should be compared to olympiad? I mean then we should have only OLYMPIAD where people could fight, and than YES , we should balance the game according to the oly.
However L2 is far from the Olympiad only, in fact an OLY char can suck outside the oly and vice verse. Therefor the only way be good in all aspects of pvp matter is to have X char for oly only and Y char for everything else. Playing 1 char only and wanting to "pwn" everywhere is not known in l2 so far.
One more time ...give back old mana burn ...
or nerf glads ... xD and share are owned ...
yea but there has to be something wrong when you basically have to rename Olympiad to "Glad Feed Wars"
Can i get more specific (mature) details whats wrong with glad in oly?
Same goes for manaburn?
PS Buffsong please dont explain this yourself.
Thank you
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on August 31, 2014, 11:17:27 PM
Glads rape him ,he doesnt know how to play ,he thinks that if he has 5 seconds cd on mana burn he can win =))))) but i always rape him in 3 seconds =))
Mature, objective and detailed explenations please, keep the hate out of this.
Thank you
The problem with manaburn is the dalay. its almost useless for itself, and combined with the use of mana tatoos by the opponent become completly useless.
Why should i empty his mana if in 2 seconds he will have mana for use skills again?
Quote from: Netoo on August 31, 2014, 11:32:52 PM
The problem with manaburn is the dalay. its almost useless for itself, and combined with the use of mana tatoos by the opponent become completly useless.
Why should i empty his mana if in 2 seconds he will have mana for use skills again?
Removing tattoes for mana seems legit enough, but still i prefer reasonable and mature discussion. Im not really fan or nerfs and "fixes" on running server. However if it will give chances to others and still keep the strongest with equal chances, than its an argument for discussion.
Guys, Duelist, is designed to win in oly. Thats the best char you can find 1 vs 1. That's why it's called Duelist. In most of the servers it's like this. I'm sorry if that is hard to comprehend or accept.
Gladiators are very powerful, especially on close distance fights, but here comes the tricky part.. Duelist isn't a F1 char, that means that you must have nerve of steel and very fast fingers, because you must press so many buttons, thats why many people avoid playing with it.
I never cared for oly of Dragon servers, because it's just too hard to fix because of substack system. There is always one overpowered char.
You must at least show some appreciation to our staff which fix and acts enough to make the oly work. That is not an easy job. It is hard to make everyone happy.
Laser remind me what char did you play at that time on IL ?:D
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on August 31, 2014, 07:59:49 PM
+1. There isnt a char that rapes both oly and mass pvp ,ppl dont get it.So if u do some 'balances' for oly they will affect pvp also .They will still cry no matter how u change it , thats how FC always do =).
there was such char and it was ee/sws who played on nmx30 can remember pretty well such chars
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 01, 2014, 01:54:33 AM
EE sws is broken here coz u cant make 25k + dmg on a pp gl, and u ll lose on timer :d with augu u hit 100 dmg coz ressists and no emp acu buffs.
only cuz of nerfs...on nm we had such player who was making 1500 +++ points with ee/sws
i am just curious, You laser farming this olly for ages. why are you troling this nubs?:/
Never was olly player but back intime on dragon c-4/il was much more chellanging.
p.s.
pw/sws? i remember only few good. vlodko,alex, and one from sindy dont remember his nick.
There should be divisions in olympiad, tanks should fight tanks , assassins vs assassins and mages vs mages. And counts on 2 registered chars so you dont wait that much.
I also think olympiad points should be done weekly and price points divided on 4, this would make way more action inside and probably more ppl would reg.
Thats just my opinion and i tink it would make if "fair" because there is no sence to have hero skills and to be loged like 2 days a month like i see in many cases.
Do you have that much people to reg?
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 01, 2014, 03:02:46 AM
than means u dont remember how glasy always banned me coz i was raping everything on oly with staburback =) but it was on Hellbound.Not il.
glasy>track. :DDD
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 01, 2014, 03:03:58 AM
Roflmao =)) yea and dwarf fight dwarfs.Thats how oly is bro ,get use with it .If u want that kind of fights go make duels, assassins vs assassins ,mage vs mage etc,here its Olympiad not dwarf vs dwarf =).
Bro Im used to this kind of just oly like you, but it was always so unfair to some classes and i think something can be done.. so some classes can have the chance to fight for hero by themselfs in a more fair way.
Also normal reg should be keep the way it is, just the class reg should be changed.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on August 31, 2014, 11:24:24 PM
Mature, objective and detailed explenations please, keep the hate out of this.
Thank you
Lovely
I love how everyone keeps on being a child instead of giving track some answers/suggestions....
The reason pp/glad is so strong in oly (to answer track's question) 1- they are the "best" 1v1 warrior class, combine with the fact they can sub to the best buffer class in the game makes them invincible in olys, yes, invincible, coz like someone already said a pro player can beat anyone in oly. Nothing can be done to change that without freaking them up outside oly, so pp/glad is imo, fine as it is.
What can be done to balance olys?
-imo mana burn is fine as it is, many ppl here already mentioned why.
-Erase should have the same reuse delay of mana burn coz is ridiculous that a warrior class with am+a can use erase 4 time in fight (maybe more but erase landed on the fourth try in the fight I saw)
-It is true: sk, wl, any archer class, TK, se, sph, aw, pw and necros (im forgetting some classes me thinks) are freaked in oly NO WAY of being hero without transfer period.
-Mages should get acumen and ww like warriors get haste+ww. Dont start crying about sps/ee coz they are not the only mage class in the freaking game; they are just the only class that have a real chance at olys and thats it.
-Specifically on bp/wk, I got nothing against ppl playing this class combo (except the ones playing it only for olys, have seen only 1 or 2 outside olys healing their clan parties in pvp) but being a bp/wk in oly is retarded, cleanse removes any and all debuffs the summoner and the pet gets, except silence ofc on summoner ofc, and heals himself and the summon way too effectively; so imo either make bishop heals not useable in olys only when you have a summon or make cleanse not useable in olys only when you have summon if that is possible at all, coz i cant think of another way of balancing this combo without freaking it up.
That is all from me regarding oly balance, feel free to give your thoughts/suggestions, avoid flames, i wont answer them.
laser i dont cry this mana burn dalay 25 sec is too big
we made b5 glad/pp for oly we dont cry
mages sucks without acumen on oly
ee sws with nuke skill earth,holy or dark attack have better chances againts you if burn your mana in time
but with this reuse is inposible
when people make all items +6 and no alive rboses only fun for them left oly
i like verry mutch oly system in dragon
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on August 31, 2014, 11:06:35 PM
Can i get more specific (mature) details whats wrong with glad in oly?
Same goes for manaburn?
PS Buffsong please dont explain this yourself.
Thank you
CAN u tell me where u saw in L2 servers have fighters the same reuse of mana like mages ? its holy sh1t ....buffs for reuse skills dont work for it // they are unseless... its lol
i think we start normal and was good ... dunno why so change!...
Quote from: Kybel on September 01, 2014, 10:11:39 PM
i think we start normal and was good ... dunno why so change!...
What we changed?
remove this oly filters it's sux no need people to leave clan to make transfare for oly
if you can make at oly all skills to reuse after match or when enter in oly to people dont w8 10 min or more for skils reuse will be more fun for all
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 01, 2014, 04:25:24 PM
Why its unfair ?This is how IL is ,and thats why glad is strong on oly coz he is strong on 1v1 fights .there is nothing unfair lol.
I can say same about mass pvp too =)?Make archers vs archers and mages vs mages coz archers vs mages is unfair?Lol.
Dont you think heroes should be the best on their respective classes?
Im just saying there should be a class based divided by tanks / assassins & archers / mages depending on what class you decide to register for those who would like to fight agaisnt similar classes.
This would give to some classes the opportunity to actualy have a fair fight and increase the number of registrations (since everyone would like to fight agaisnt those of the same class) to settle whos the best player.
Normal registration should be kept the way it is but some filters should be applied, for example decrease the number of points lost agaisnt same character.
Example 1: 1 fight won (reward 30% of losers points), 2 fight won (+15%), 3 fight won (+10%).
Example 2: 1 fight won (+30%), 2 fight won (+15%), 3 fight lost (-15%), 4 fight lost (-30%),
5 fight lost (-15%), 6 fight lost (-10%) .
This should decrease the number of points lost in transfers and make it way harder to do.
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 01, 2014, 08:09:37 PM
No its not big at all,its normal.Same was on dragon .Standard cd on mana burn no matter what cast speed,renewal etc. If u make it too short its op ,its simple.Deal with it.
U made b5 pp gl for oly ,and he is so bad ,he dodges me all the time :D
EE with earth nuke is same like hydro blast for example .On pp u have 2 ressists for each
Elemental protection + antharas for earth ,and ressist water and elemental prot for hydro
Same goes for dark atk u got unholy + tezza
For sacred atk u got only holy ressist but still same sh1t u ll hit 150 dmg max so im just telling u ee sws will never pwn a geared pp gl ,u will lose on dmg , no time to make him 25k+ dmg with 150 100 nuke augu ;)
So better use the brain a lil bit more and find some strategy.
so why it needed nerf then on mana burn tell me? oO when u say glad pp is op why they nerfed sws/ee then when thae char is like that normaly...on nightmare x30 we never had nerfs on mana burn and all was ok with it there was normal heroes who won oly without transfer...problem is somewhere else here
Thats just my opinion bro, but making a dager fight a tank its like watching a 3rd league team playing agaisnt a first one, it should be playing agaisnt the teams on his rank.
Mana burn to normal reuse ...depended on casting speed and reuse skills .. and oly will be more better or delete foking tattoo ... ;))
Its sux when 2 glads farms 250+ pts and then share to others chars from clan ... here is problem ... if will be other chars wining there will be no points to one playr but to all ...
sry for english ...
(but this mana burn reuse 30s at fighters and mage its lol )-fighters never can have the same reuse of magic skill like mage ... its not normal L2 then ....
Well , about class based vs class based is a good idea and bad idea in same time..
They tryed it in past on VLK and on Dragon , it was a big fail , because all ppl was making crazy transfert. Make bot of same class + nobless , and kill yourself.. or friends.
+1 about skill reused when you enter in oly. Cause some class's have to wait like 10,20min... Its boring hehe.
+1 for acumen to mage's. Figther get haste+ww , mage get ww only , little unfair.
Ofc sps/ee will take a lot of advantage on it , but be realist , a sps/ee don't really need acu to win.
sps/ee is one of best class since years..
About glad/pp. You are all saying that it's the best class of oly , It's a faking good class yeah , but not THE BEST , watch some movie from official interlude oly. Glad can loose against everyone depend of gameplay , stuff etc. But here with substack , PP give so much advantage to glad that they become almost invicible. But there is always some way to win.
And for mana burn , I don't know what to say.. I was playing se/ps on x15 , taking all mana of my oppenent in like 30s , it was... I don't want same thing here. And on x15 we never get mp in oly..
But since we have tatoo mp in oly.. It change a lot of things. Even me , w/o mana tatoo , i should loose against a lot of class , and maybe win some class's that I don't win now.
So to fix it , to be fair I guess , we have to make tatoo mp no usable in oly , or make mana burn a little better ( not to much ^^). I m telling the truth , because if you change that , i will certainly loose a lot of match in oly xD.
See ya.
Some changes that will most likely be done regarding oly:
- weekly based oly
- anti feed algorithm (excluding clans/ally filter)
- reuse of skills
- additional buffs for mages as well
- elpies on the spawn
For now , i will avoid touched any class/skills or so called "nerfs", because we all know i am very against it and in the end it is Pandora box.
Those changes, along with other ones (mentioned in all previous topics) will happen in following days, since we are finishing their development and working on new things.
The winter is coming....
Could you explain a little more the weekly based oly thing? I still dont understand if you mean that there will be a different hero per week or that olympiad fights will take place only 1 day per week or something else.
Quote from: rapinski on September 02, 2014, 05:21:07 PM
Could you explain a little more the weekly based oly thing? I still dont understand if you mean that there will be a different hero per week or that olympiad fights will take place only 1 day per week or something else.
Most likely this. We are working on few things for the moment, once its done, youll have all the data.
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 02, 2014, 08:59:58 PM
Let oly as it is now ,its ok.Just add acumen to mages and reuse skills when u enter arena.Weekly base class sux,ppl will feed more.And not landing on same ip/clan/ally its already good for anti feed.I dont get why ppl cry about feed lol,make pp gl and feed too than if its so easy as they are saying it is .Its not like ur exploiting or using a hack to feed .lol.Just envious retards.
Current setup of oly, requiers wannabe heroes to log just 5-7 days before end of the month. Lame and unacceptable. I dont like either that players leave clan/ally to gain points, therefor ill undo that filter.
If we can do it, im very looking forward for weekly based oly.
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 02, 2014, 09:19:22 PM
and current match system is bad, ppl dodge me at oly to make pts ,lol.i meet b5 once in 7 days and from mistake,coz he dodges me ,or regs and doesnt get count with me,dunno why
And no,some classes can make heroes in 1,2 days yes where is no competition ,and where it is competition,is harder. So i dont see anything unacceptable Oo.
Agaist ppl leaving clan ....well u cant do nothing about it,if they are friends they give wins to each other,different ip ,u cant do anything .And i say its normal ,if u land vs friend and u give him win,nothing special about it.Every1 does this since olympiad was created.
Again im telling u, ppl are just crying coz they are lame and they cant do it ,they cry pp gl OP ,but they dont make it coz they have no idea how to play it =). So they will cry omg do smtgh nerf ,make other system at oly bla bla.
In fact, THANK GOD, im not nerfing anything. Actually im adapting Olympiad to be more attractive and to have constant actions on daily basis.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on September 02, 2014, 09:24:06 PM
In fact, THANK GOD, im not nerfing anything. Actually im adapting Olympiad to be more attractive and to have constant actions on daily basis.
But as Track said before server opened he will not do nerfs here,the nerfs were made before server opened.
Those sh1t nerfs and ninja nerfs ruined dnx15 and 90% were cos of oly, but staff didn't listen and they fked the gameplay more and more.I don't play oly never played it just went sometimes for fun.And like you said it Track if you do 1 nerf you open pandora box an fk other 10 things like they did on dnx15.
Nikola doing always his best and this most gm's lacked on dnx15.
Glasy>Track.
Quote from: rapinski on September 02, 2014, 05:21:07 PM
Could you explain a little more the weekly based oly thing? I still dont understand if you mean that there will be a different hero per week or that olympiad fights will take place only 1 day per week or something else.
yo ikki :) i remember lots of fun with u on nmx30 in TheHeroes :) in what clan u play here?
Think about some filter sorting ppl with more points to meet each other.Like Laser said we met once in few days while we were signed for whole 3h oly every single day.He still thinking I'm avoiding him.Like yesterday I've done 17 fights he have done 15 and we didn't fight each other.
amidamaru can heal but dont have enouth dmg to win he have full bos jewels normal to heal more him selfs
Antharas and Orfen do increase healing effects.So now you know it.
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 04, 2014, 10:38:37 AM
Oh sh1t,ty for info didint know that.But u see ,i was talking about smtgh totaly different,but ur dumb as always,lol.
Yeah you were QQ for smth diff how Braskah kick your ass, so let's reduce healling on UD.
Once and for all I admit you are the most rude player here.Insult after insult and now you start it on forum too.
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 04, 2014, 11:19:39 AM
who cares ,dude ur retarded ?maybe learn some english first before u open ur debil mouth.
Ur pathetic clan members QQs and makes topics,look who started this topic.He QQs for mana burn and shits ,i gave u other example if u QQ for mana burn ,lets QQ for everything thats not balanced.I dont need to justify any further to u , ur just too low skilled for this game.
Then what you are since I beat you even without augments?
Apart mentioned changes that are coming, we will most likely
- disable mana tattoos usage inside oly
- reconsider lowering the bonus of Tattoo of Mahum by 10~15%
- adding mana potions and its herbs on drop
- considering adding mage Tattoo that will match Mahum one
- bonuses for new clans (after matching requirements)
- adding major quest items in donny (enough time passed)
- helping newcomers with some starting gear and things similar to that
mana burn reuse ?
Quote from: djvancho on September 05, 2014, 05:01:17 PM
mana burn reuse ?
It wont be touched for now, since we believe that upcoming changes are enough to balance oly/outside oly. Touching skill itself is very dangerous and risky thing. We are trying to avoid this by any meaning.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on September 05, 2014, 03:04:27 PM
- reconsider lowering the bonus of Tattoo of Mahum by 10~15%
Seems the best way to sync it with progression of Magic powers. (as test have shown) / Or sync Magic power one to Mahum progression . (will test both)
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on September 05, 2014, 03:04:27 PM
- reconsider lowering the bonus of Tattoo of Mahum by 10~15%
- considering adding mage Tattoo that will match Mahum one
But mages are equal to archers, you just have to l2p. You basicly wanna change l2 because ppl fail playing mages on this server. I have no words
Quote from: Gumis on September 05, 2014, 05:39:51 PM
But mages are equal to archers, you just have to l2p. You basicly wanna change l2 because ppl fail playing mages on this server. I have no words
Read updated post please.
Quote from: Gumis on September 05, 2014, 05:39:51 PM
But mages are equal to archers, you just have to l2p. You basicly wanna change l2 because ppl fail playing mages on this server. I have no words
Track Gumis is right on surrender/vortex/ u get crit 5-6-7 k on cancel n/c 1 shot.And if mages get epics to than bb.Our mages with epics crit for 13k.Why our mages don't qq? And they pwn in pvp archers because they know how to play them.
There is balance already between archers and mages both crit hard.
The only problem here Track is that not all players have the same skills/knowledge of they're chars and know to play them so they prefer the easy way qq=nerf.
Plus archers are gear dependent since always else they will do sh1t dmg and mages not.
The only ones who qq about mages are the ones who don't know how to play them.
I give you case scenario Track : Put one archer vs mage/summoner class or sps/ee both full buffs + epics + set + skills++ and u will see who will do the biggest dmg and win.
You can't compare an mage with dc set + hom+ 10/12 or am+0 vs 1 archer in draco set +6 +full epics and bow+10.And than they come qq mages are weak n/c.
If you downgrade archers mages will be more stronger even if it's 5% 10 % For the bonus it gives that tattoo it already nerfs your base stats big -p.def/m.def/a.speed and pr with that tattoo and dead eye u got 500 a.speed vs and mage who got insane c.speed.
It's not ppl fault that some are better than others.Same happened on dnx15 because of good players who knew playing they're chars there was mass qq and tons of nerfs and it's not fair.And about the nerfs because of oly qq'ers who play oly and destroyed the game play of others I won't even comment.Those nerfs destroyed archer/daggers and most left after it became mage server.
That tattoo is the only thing that keeps balance between mages and archers and if all good mages will get valakas in hands bb archers.It will be hard for good archers to compete against them.
Plus mages got wall tattoo to compensate mahum tattoo of archers why they don't use it?Drake implemented it especially for mages and told them to use it instead of qq.Butt instead to use it they qq.They should fkin used it, if archers can spend 8 dc for mahum they should spend 8dc for wall tattoo and stop qq.
Mages on full buffs do more crit dmg than archers plus they 3x faster ( c.speed ) than archers period.
Btw Track my post is real fact no flame / no qq / no blackmail intended just pure fact im tired of ppl qq and I don't want to see stupid nerfs or any kind of nerf here on skills/tattoo.
Balance and nerfs were made before server start and should stay like that.I respect yours and Drake's work/person for 10 years and as long I will play here and even after I quit (2xxx year :D ) I will still respect you guys (and I won't throw trash on this network and staff like some did ) for this wonderful years.
I just want in future that you guys keep your promises and respect your words about the nerfs like you guys kept it until now.
P.S. Track when there will be Those 2 events implemented Control The Town and All vs all or so I forgot the 2nd name.I can't w8 so excited mass pvp / action / fun!!!:D
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 05, 2014, 10:13:45 PM
so after i invested like 50 coins in my tatoos , u will disable them from oly ?Nice
Remember that both oponents in oly can use tatoos, so i dont see nothing wrong with it ,lol.
And taking 100% from the heal in UD its okay too ?
Just mana tattos.
Just little nerf of buffer classes- its not such a nerf, little bit balance.
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 06, 2014, 01:03:44 AM
Its already balanced, but ppl dont know how to play proper and prefer to QQ.
This is how DN always was lol.
Seriously now, what are you talking about?
DID WE NERF ANY CLASS?
no
DID WE TOUCH ANY SKILL?
no
DID WE CHANGE SOME FEATURES OF OLY TO MAKE IT MORE CHALLENGING TO VARIETIES OF CLASSES?
yes, more to come
DID WE REMOVED ANY TATTOO USAGE?
no, but we are reconsidering to remove mana one to everyone (NOT to specific clanss)
So i have no clue what we nerfed, because we nerfed 0 so far, since opening.
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 06, 2014, 01:18:24 AM
Mate u know, every char can use mana tatoos, every char is mana dependent ,so why remove them ?
U find it interesting to kill a pp/tank in oly who uses 2 uds and full heals himself ,coz his skills dont require so much mana,so yes he has plenty of mana to use and even w/o tatoo he will have.Obviously no class will have enough mana w/o tatoo to kill.So i dont find it interesting anymore.
I know u havent touched any skills ,but if u ll touch tatoos ,its the same .
Or at least if u remove mana tatoos make full hp mp when u start fight ,coz 2k mana wont be enough to kill a pp tank 3 times.
Well we didnt remove those tattoes, we are reconsidering doing it. Well see.
About hp/mp that can be done if needed.
i made ee/sws t can play oly even with skills +11 no chances with this mana burn reuse i hope now without mana tatoos will be better
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 06, 2014, 02:10:13 AM
ROFLMAO, dude ,u have no clue how to play ee es trust me.
Just for ur info EE-ES is one of the strongest classes on oly, he can kill every single class there if played correct.U should ask SizeMatters,he played some good EE-ES in the past .But its rly hard to play,u need fast fingers,since u gotta controll ,resum ur uni,rebuff ,heal etc.
So trust me ,considering ur play style,w/o tatoos, with mana burn 2 sec cd ,etc ,useless.
So first learn how to play with a char ,than QQ coz of other sh1ts.
When i lost with bp wk and ee es at oly i didint cry 'omg nerf heal,nerf mana recharge from pet ,nerf tatoo' etc like u do ,so start playing better,its simple.
lol u cryer ... delete foking tattooo .. or remove mana burn ...
U start cry bcs u cant later trejds more points or what ? XD
Btw mahom tatoo its like + next boss jewell its a litlle bit sick .. xD
and dunno why we play with any tatoos ... for attack speed ,casting speed rabit etc its good but this all others are sick,sh1t ...
Quote from: Kybel on September 07, 2014, 10:02:55 AM
lol u cryer ... delete foking tattooo .. or remove mana burn ...
U start cry bcs u cant later trejds more points or what ? XD
Btw mahom tatoo its like + next boss jewell its a litlle bit sick .. xD
and dunno why we play with any tatoos ... for attack speed ,casting speed rabit etc its good but this all others are sick,sh1t ...
Tattoos are available for everyone, and everyone can get them easy.
Allow bsss and you'll take out some of the distance between fighters and mages atleast. Healer subs already get their heals cut in power from the olympiad blessing. Imo it's something to consider atleast.
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 07, 2014, 09:34:06 PM
if u use the brain a bit ,fighters will use bsss also ,that means higher land rate to : block s,block ww,erase ,more heal ,etc.
So it wont make that much difference.
... Wont make that much difference? Are you retarded?
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on September 07, 2014, 10:26:11 AM
Tattoos are available for everyone, and everyone can get them easy.
yea play mage or healer ... and when u get on pvp from archer or dagger 8k + ( its head shot) so u will fast leave it .... 8k ? ok full buff +cov +aq+baium + mahum+fire dance mby its more then 8k ...
ok and dagger on self buff with mahum+aq+baium hit for 5k(5k its only full hp+cp on mage or healer on selfie) with backstab ... u will also leave it fast .... so dunno how u balance server ...
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 08, 2014, 08:26:46 AM
lol it does, guess ure retarded.If bsss added, it wont mean anything better for mages.
It will increase our landrate for debuffs aswell and we'll nuke harder so if that's nothing.. It's a good small fix to make it more balanced for nukers, the debuffs you talk about is superhigh landrate already so wouldn't matter as much for fighters.
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 08, 2014, 10:03:35 AM
Dude ur total retarded.I said adding bss wont make big diference for mages vs fighters at oly,since u got substack here ,and bss will improve land rate for debuufs of fighters as well.Yea mage hits like 150 200 on pp-xx ,with bss will hit 220.WOW ,big improvement.Ur total retarded rofl.
Did you even read what I wrote? The debuffs you talk about is almost 100%landrate even without bsss so it's more beneficial for mages than for fighters still. Vortexes, silences, doom, anchor, curses and debuffs like that is more important for us mages. Some extra dmg is just a bonus. Why are you arguing about it if you say it's not a big deal?
Laser, if you disagree with others, please dont call them names.
Ty
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 08, 2014, 10:58:43 AM
yea good luck with curses ,vortexes silences doom,anchor vs MI .Gl mate ,u rly smart.What can i say , bss will impreove the landrate of curses a lot vs MI .But u guys dont like using brain not even 1% .As i see here,just u have nothing to do with this game,lol.
Im just telling u ,with bss or with ss ,its same shit ,for mages.But,keep talking anyway.
It will be good if you use your brain.Why do you think all olympiad chars out there got MI or any kind of debuffs?There are ppl without support sub so this won't affect them?But it's hard to understand you aren't the only one out there, isn't it?
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 08, 2014, 10:58:43 AM
yea good luck with curses ,vortexes silences doom,anchor vs MI .Gl mate ,u rly smart.What can i say , bss will impreove the landrate of curses a lot vs MI .But u guys dont like using brain not even 1% .As i see here,just u have nothing to do with this game,lol.
Im just telling u ,with bss or with ss ,its same shit ,for mages.But,keep talking anyway.
Are you the only one playing oly here? Does every class have MI? Take your own advice and use your brains and don't this small-minded and stupid. Don't answer more please "Laser", but Track you should consider this change atleast.
Quote from: Easley on September 08, 2014, 11:27:53 AM
Are you the only one playing oly here? Does every class have MI? Take your own advice and use your brains and don't this small-minded and stupid. Don't answer more please "Laser", but Track you should consider this change atleast.
BSSS Idea?
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 08, 2014, 11:47:16 AM
Dude most fighter classes are pp-xx at oly ,so yea ,its useless.Go ask track to add bsss,u ll see oly will be the same.
Then why are you arguing and flaming if you don't care / think it will change anything? Do you need attention or what do you want?
And to Track, yeah making Bsss usable in olympiad would help mages a bit and possible make it atleast a little more fair in oly.
with all these buffs to nukers SPS/EE will just become insane and it's already pretty good.
imo bsss can have quite big impact. i think it will shift weights a bit towards healer classes (faster casting speed), also will speed up buff pre -> da/pp will buff panther properly, rebuff ww/haste/shield
guess bish/wk might be better than gl/pp then, also pp/wk ee/es will be now an option.
if you add acu1 and/or emp1 some nuker classes will show some strenght and maybe sorc/pp necro/pp or sh/se will be able to kill something at least
Quote from: kapsel on September 09, 2014, 02:46:47 AM
imo bsss can have quite big impact. i think it will shift weights a bit towards healer classes (faster casting speed), also will speed up buff pre -> da/pp will buff panther properly, rebuff ww/haste/shield
guess bish/wk might be better than gl/pp then, also pp/wk ee/es will be now an option.
if you add acu1 and/or emp1 some nuker classes will show some strenght and maybe sorc/pp necro/pp or sh/se will be able to kill something at least
This is about the same as I thought would happen too. I'm not sure about adding both emp and bsss though, sps/ee would get really strong with both acu and emp :/
About lasers post I'll ignore it, stick to fighter coz you really don't know much about mages or healers.
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on September 09, 2014, 07:59:49 AM
ahahahah i when i was playing sps ee u were playing with ur tiny penis in the sand bro,stfu now.
Yeah so about 20 years ago then? Time to get updated bro. Nice post btw, really helping.
Bss on oly is not such a stupid idea while skills are balanced for pvp where mages are useing it- ss sucks :)