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Do you want Tarantula to be upgraded to Hellbound?

no

Damn Track you really lost me here  :o To many servers/chronicles better all merged in 1 server / 1 chronicle than xx ones = more ppl=more fun=more action good job but I'm lost atm to much intel.

Quote from: reddragonjr on December 02, 2014, 02:51:35 AM
Damn Track you really lost me here  :o To many servers/chronicles better all merged in 1 server / 1 chronicle than xx ones = more ppl=more fun=more action good job but I'm lost atm to much intel.

Its quite simple:

H5 = retail
HB = retail
Tara (substack) can remain Interlude or upgrade to HB.

Anyhow, all those 4 servers are completely different worlds , therefor it gives varieties of choices!

Those server are totally a new experience for DN.Anyway we still give you the possibilty to choose to change IL into HB but keeping the subclass and the game-play related

I understood all Track.
Tara can stay IL as it is old school np but will be hard choice where to play active damn.Same goes for gm's will be hard to be active on all 3 servers 24/7 not counting pasta macaroni dragon  ;D.
Can't play on all at the same time damn even if I wish  ;D There will be choices made maybe some ppl/friends want to play on x server others on y damn I'm feeling dizzy already I want our crew/enemy's to stay together and making good action/fun.
Btw Drake lend me your bionic arm and hypnotic eye maybe it will work  ;D

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 12:48:19 AM
Do you want Tarantula to be upgraded to Hellbound?

dont wanna say whats obvious but if we wanted hellbound we just search some hellbound pvp server with much ppl :) rather make things we already spoken about zilion times....u think if u put hellbound it will change something when u keep the things we wanted to change? ye it will some ppl will come play like max 3-4 months till they get new items and sets and then they will slowly leave server like we experienced...the mistake wasnt in chronicle but somewhere else and what you should do is to admit it finaly and fix it

I kinda want tarantula to stay as IL tbh, it gives alot of diversity to this network for sure. I'll check out the HB retail myself :D

Quote from: UngO on December 02, 2014, 05:52:01 AM
dont wanna say whats obvious but if we wanted hellbound we just search some hellbound pvp server with much ppl :) rather make things we already spoken about zilion times....u think if u put hellbound it will change something when u keep the things we wanted to change? ye it will some ppl will come play like max 3-4 months till they get new items and sets and then they will slowly leave server like we experienced...the mistake wasnt in chronicle but somewhere else and what you should do is to admit it finaly and fix it

<3 u said everything

Quote from: UngO on December 02, 2014, 05:52:01 AM
dont wanna say whats obvious but if we wanted hellbound we just search some hellbound pvp server with much ppl :) rather make things we already spoken about zilion times....u think if u put hellbound it will change something when u keep the things we wanted to change? ye it will some ppl will come play like max 3-4 months till they get new items and sets and then they will slowly leave server like we experienced...the mistake wasnt in chronicle but somewhere else and what you should do is to admit it finaly and fix it

Fix what actually? Tell me, when i fix that something, will it bring new players, or even old?
Either way, whats that big thing to fix?

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 10:06:07 AM
Fix what actually? Tell me, when i fix that something, will it bring new players, or even old?
Either way, whats that big thing to fix?

It doesn't matter - Tarantula got KO and nothing can change this  ;)

Thx for new serwer's, maybe ppl will be have more fun.

Btw you should ppl let transfer chars between servers.

HF

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 10:06:07 AM
Fix what actually? Tell me, when i fix that something, will it bring new players, or even old?
Either way, whats that big thing to fix?

GoE, Tattos (bring a bit better balance just to ad more variability into fight - nowdays u see archers only, olympiad is PP/GL only since they have infinite mana for strikes), B-sets - i see newbies lvl 70+ in C-grade since there is non B grade farm and A grade is too expensive, CASTLE SIEGES - we all <3 them so much but here are non coz there is nothing interesting for clan leaders to own castle, remove atlast part of TANK NERFS - absolutely noone is playing them, i play here from march and never saw a single one dark avenger or paladin outside town coz they r just not worth it - to this i have to rly add some !!!!!! I know its not possible to balance sub-stack server to perfect level, but if u see in any action only with specific characters its also boring for everyone else, add more rates to spoil, drop maybe since people need a lot of farm and it takes quite a time so they can come to PVP part more quickly...

I have a whole list with quadrilion changes this server need/are interesting maybe but this ones ^^ me and my friends playing here find most important of all.

Quote from: Fallen on December 02, 2014, 11:01:04 AM
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Btw you should ppl let transfer chars between servers.

HF

I am not sure if this is even possible since then new servers arent sub-stack at all. U can have only 1 active proffesion at the time here.

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 10:06:07 AM
Fix what actually? Tell me, when i fix that something, will it bring new players, or even old?
Either way, whats that big thing to fix?

wipe( and make many changes)or finally listen ppl ... what and where are changes needed ...

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 12:48:19 AM
Do you want Tarantula to be upgraded to Hellbound?

If you'd only do this like 6 months ago :(

BTW. HB Retail seems rly interesting. We might check it out with our clan :P

Quote from: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 11:33:44 AM
If you'd only do this like 6 months ago :(

BTW. HB Retail seems rly interesting. We might check it out with our clan :P

Thank you.

But please keep Tara section related to it.

Trackito i highlited some changes that are needed for Tarantula on 1st page, did u noticed ?

With regards, Tyrr.

Quote from: tyrrande on December 02, 2014, 11:47:17 AM
Trackito i highlited some changes that are needed for Tarantula on 1st page, did u noticed ?

With regards, Tyrr.

Yes i did of course. In addition to that, read pm.

Thank you

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 11:50:45 AM
Yes i did of course. In addition to that, read pm.

Thank you

i ll once i come home, since now i am at work and i cant do much about it :) with reg. Tyrr

The whole Point why I started to play here was cuz of the IL, so a better fix should be to keep it IL but change the things that people talk about is bad with server atm. Just my opinion  :-*

Cheer mates!

Tracky maybe you don't wanna here this or even read it, but it need to be said. Ppl wanted old interlude not what you placed and others placed. New tattoos system, nerf tankers, no potions, that's not old Dn times was and what ppl remembered and wanted.

And now I believe is to late for fix.   :'(

Quote from: OsirisDl on December 02, 2014, 02:22:31 PM
Tracky maybe you don't wanna here this or even read it, but it need to be said. Ppl wanted old interlude not what you placed and others placed. New tattoos system, nerf tankers, no potions, that's not old Dn times was and what ppl remembered and wanted.

And now I believe is to late for fix.   :'(

I was saying this since this server started. All i got of it was a several banned forum accounts.

Quote from: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
I was saying this since this server started. All i got of it was a several banned forum accounts.

Its not true, you got account banned for something else. Like advertising other servers and trash talking in every topic.

"Nerfs" are there for reason, you dont know what chaos you are wishing for. But who knows, maybe we will show you how right we were, by disabling those limits.

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 02:54:45 PM
Its not true, you got account banned for something else. Like advertising other servers and trash talking in every topic.

"Nerfs" are there for reason, you dont know what chaos you are wishing for. But who knows, maybe we will show you how right we were, by disabling those limits.

Some nerfs are needed, obviously. But you overnerfed and overcustomized everything. There's no point to brag about it all over again. Huge mistakes were made on this server, by both sides, GM's and community's. Let's hope it will bring more fun in the future servers, like maybe a new stacksub one someday? We'll see. I rly wish you luck with these Retail servers. Sorry for offtop again.

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 02:54:45 PM
Its not true, you got account banned for something else. Like advertising other servers and trash talking in every topic.

"Nerfs" are there for reason, you dont know what chaos you are wishing for. But who knows, maybe we will show you how right we were, by disabling those limits.

So you are telling me tankers where so op in OLD times interlude? And that is why you nerfed all them? To what I remember in old time interlude it was orc that was op and get a nerf, not other classes.
But yeah this is my point of view hope you understand, AND GL With New server hope they bring more ppl on all servers.

Old HB times was cool , not like IL but still cool .. anyway better try because server is dead anyway.100% Hb will brings new players( farmers) because there will have new farm places :)

IMO.... switch it to HB won't bring new players or players back, unfortunately the L2 players aren't young ppl, just old school players it atm and we all work and got wife/child.

So..... said that... IMO tarantula should be moved to high rate pvp server, make some things easier while add something on donation shop to earn money while keep it up.

Lets say something like.....

300x
Buffs on NPC with 1 hour.... some must not like to keep the party pvp stronger, like cat buffs, 3 job song and dance and cov
Enchants on donation shopp (i think already exists, maybe do it cheapper)
Increase lvl of all raids, specially epics, with announces when it spawn
Global GK
Purchasable Nobless quest item
Some special NPC on castles to increase ppl in Siege (maybe enchants cheapper here by donation coins, or S armors/weapons ....dunno. Or A/B grades sold by adena ... dunno)
Dunno if already implemented but..... mana pots
*added* Some special area with special spoil drop, like S armor Recipes (siince quest itens rly boring) where u get chance to get purple (pvp enable) while hit the monsters..... haha that would be insane.... possible do that track? imagine it aUAUAhuaHAhuauha


something on this line....
peace

Quote from: lbiguiml on December 02, 2014, 05:51:18 PM
IMO.... switch it to HB won't bring new players or players back, unfortunately the L2 players aren't young ppl, just old school players it atm and we all work and got wife/child.

So..... said that... IMO tarantula should be moved to high rate pvp server, make some things easier while add something on donation shop to earn money while keep it up.

Lets say something like.....

300x
Buffs on NPC with 1 hour.... some must not like to keep the party pvp stronger, like cat buffs, 3 job song and dance and cov
Enchants on donation shopp (i think already exists, maybe do it cheapper)
Increase lvl of all raids, specially epics, with announces when it spawn
Global GK
Purchasable Nobless quest item
Some special NPC on castles to increase ppl in Siege (maybe enchants cheapper here by donation coins, or S armors/weapons ....dunno. Or A/B grades sold by adena ... dunno)
Dunno if already implemented but..... mana pots
*added* Some special area with special spoil drop, like S armor Recipes (siince quest itens rly boring) where u get chance to get purple (pvp enable) while hit the monsters..... haha that would be insane.... possible do that track? imagine it aUAUAhuaHAhuauha


something on this line....
peace

+1
delete blessed enchants bcs many on server and ppl cant burn  weapons ... so no one farm just enchant ... xD and for blessed enchants its easy way now  ...

Quote from: _NecroKINGS_ on December 02, 2014, 08:25:03 PM
Hello. I dont think ppl want to move HB. Let us enjoy play IL stacksub server. You should change something to get players. Tarantula server need few changes firstly like tattos,potions.At least ask players request do somethings which we want!

p.s: i dont think these new servers will be successful,dnet staff careless on servers (btw im here since 2007)

We can argue about IL changes, but when you said about we are careless, i strongly believe you should be ashamed of your words. We are by far, most active and assistive staff you will ever find.

But i guess , i should get use to this community after so many years in my butt.

Yes and wipe for enjoy:)

Quote from: lbiguiml on December 02, 2014, 05:51:18 PM
IMO.... switch it to HB won't bring new players or players back, unfortunately the L2 players aren't young ppl, just old school players it atm and we all work and got wife/child.

So..... said that... IMO tarantula should be moved to high rate pvp server, make some things easier while add something on donation shop to earn money while keep it up.

Lets say something like.....

300x
Buffs on NPC with 1 hour.... some must not like to keep the party pvp stronger, like cat buffs, 3 job song and dance and cov
Enchants on donation shopp (i think already exists, maybe do it cheapper)
Increase lvl of all raids, specially epics, with announces when it spawn
Global GK
Purchasable Nobless quest item
Some special NPC on castles to increase ppl in Siege (maybe enchants cheapper here by donation coins, or S armors/weapons ....dunno. Or A/B grades sold by adena ... dunno)
Dunno if already implemented but..... mana pots
*added* Some special area with special spoil drop, like S armor Recipes (siince quest itens rly boring) where u get chance to get purple (pvp enable) while hit the monsters..... haha that would be insane.... possible do that track? imagine it aUAUAhuaHAhuauha


something on this line....
peace

these retards killed Tara 9 months ago. srsly i never gonna understand morons like this idiot, who "dunno" anything about currently server features, meta and serverlife, but exactly know what should gm change and how to. why dont you just look for 300x crapload server and let ppl play this server, who joined here already. There are 1200 server around, everyone can find a server with features what he like and play there.

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 02:54:45 PM
Its not true, you got account banned for something else. Like advertising other servers and trash talking in every topic.

"Nerfs" are there for reason, you dont know what chaos you are wishing for. But who knows, maybe we will show you how right we were, by disabling those limits.

You know it Track it's pandora's box once you open it there's no way back, all will get fked up and rivers of qq will start on forum.

Track wtf.. 1 month ago you said: there will be a lot of new changes like a new area with special mobs for spoil and many others. A lot of ppl wanted to fix tatto in Oly because it's no sense to allow it give that is the same to allow mana potion for example.. Some time ago you started a topic for mana potion and you promised to inform us about this IMPORTANT CHANGE that a lot of people wanted. I'm not saing that you and your staff careless about server because it's true(I played and saw this server since about 2007) and if this Network is still alive and with 0 or 1 wipe in 7 years is also thanks to you and stuff. BUT here in server in last time you did a little work in game because 2-3 months ago there were a lot of events and stuff like this and a lot of people enjoyed it. And about this I agree A BIT with the reply of UngO in this topic. After 1 month these events disappeared. Also there were fantastic event like Corean style event with amazing reward. These events attracted a lot of people.. but after 1-2 month disappreared. Now for me it's no sense to update Dragon Network to HB and is simple. With this CHANGE you think to appeal new people(farmer). These people after few weeks or month when they will have full gear will leave server(if not all, like 90% of them) so for ME isn't a good idea because llike other people said, if someone want to play in a HB server will go in HB server with 2-3k people. So the problem isn't this. We NEED(and these could be very good 2-3 monts ago and not at all now) some CHANGES to appeal people HERE. I tihnk also you have to hear more what people say here in forum and in this topic. Also a lot of times you said: What changes do you want people? A lot of people sais their ideas but NOONE of this was applied in server wtf.. Also this make server dead. In my opinion some good changes will be:
-SIEGE . A lot of people love them becasue they are one of most beautiful part of L2. Some if you make them with some rewards, people will have more desire to conquer them(because only to set Manor is boring :P);
-TATTO IN OLY . I hear a lot of people that want to delete it from OLY. I agree with it as I said before. When mana potion couldn't be used in oly, why can we use tatto? So I think you have to delete them;
-RATES. I hear a lot of people who complain about rates. I agree with them. I tihnk that in this part of server will be good for new people to have a server with a mid rate like 45x-50x max. People will become fastly high level, because if them see, for now, like 200 people server, don't have desire to level. So I think to upgrade server with and increase of rates;
-B GRADE SET. Now in server people who want a B GRADE SET have difficult to get because noone sell them and is boring to craft it. SO I think that you have to add this set in a NPC  to let people ot get them easily(also all C-GRADE SETS);
-MANA POTION . A lot of people wanted MANA POTION. You put your attention there for 1 month. After you don't talk anymore about it.. A lot of people left server also for it. I think you have to add them also to help new people ot level fastly and in PVP to make it also funnier. So I think that if you add them, some people will return here(like old Dragon Network);
-NORMAL S GRADE ENCHANT AND BLESSED . Other no sense idea(In my opinion) and also a lot of people complain about them is the price of them in Donny, because their price is too high both for normal and blessed Enchant Weapon S. And other thing is: why NORMALL SCROLL S GRADE rate is different than BLESSED SCROLL S GRADE? I have already listen your opinion: because you don't lose weapon ecc.. But I think that(like old times) that THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME RATE OF SUCCESS becasue 90% of people use NORMAL SCROLL because is TOO difficult to get an over enchant weapon with BLESSED SCROLL S GRADE;
-EPIC'S STRONG. I think(and also a lot of other people) that EPIC are TOO WEAK becasue you are able to kill a Baium with 1 party.. Frintezza with 2.. And also Antharas with 3 and Valakas with 4.. I think that is too easy and if you'll make them stronger, people will enjoy more to kill them;
-A DELEVEL NPC . A good idea, also is to put a NPC to delevel a char becaseu is boring to hit a guard and dead to delevel(and this is the fastest way). With NPC people will delete this boring problem like with a click;

I THINK THAT THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IDEAS FOR NOW AND FOR SERVER. I spent some time to write them SO I HOPE THST GMs and DN staff will see these and will say something and WHAT they think about THEM. I was the first to believe in this server and I continued to play there since some weeks ago, but when I heard changes and when they after 1-2 month didn' arrive, I get pissed and I left for some time(also because 0 war and 0 fight in last period because clans didn't accept war....) and if I wrote this is because I really like this server and I hope that will return as before, at start(although I think that now, in this situation, is semi-impossible....).

Quote from: Francy on December 02, 2014, 09:37:48 PM
Track wtf.. 1 month ago you said: there will be a lot of new changes like a new area with special mobs for spoil and many others. A lot of ppl wanted to fix tatto in Oly because it's no sense to allow it give that is the same to allow mana potion for example.. Some time ago you started a topic for mana potion and you promised to inform us about this IMPORTANT CHANGE that a lot of people wanted. I'm not saing that you and your staff careless about server because it's true(I played and saw this server since about 2007) and if this Network is still alive and with 0 or 1 wipe in 7 years is also thanks to you and stuff. BUT here in server in last time you did a little work in game because 2-3 months ago there were a lot of events and stuff like this and a lot of people enjoyed it. And about this I agree A BIT with the reply of UngO in this topic. After 1 month these events disappeared. Also there were fantastic event like Corean style event with amazing reward. These events attracted a lot of people.. but after 1-2 month disappreared. Now for me it's no sense to update Dragon Network to HB and is simple. With this CHANGE you think to appeal new people(farmer). These people after few weeks or month when they will have full gear will leave server(if not all, like 90% of them) so for ME isn't a good idea because llike other people said, if someone want to play in a HB server will go in HB server with 2-3k people. So the problem isn't this. We NEED(and these could be very good 2-3 monts ago and not at all now) some CHANGES to appeal people HERE. I tihnk also you have to hear more what people say here in forum and in this topic. Also a lot of times you said: What changes do you want people? A lot of people sais their ideas but NOONE of this was applied in server wtf.. Also this make server dead. In my opinion some good changes will be:
-SIEGE . A lot of people love them becasue they are one of most beautiful part of L2. Some if you make them with some rewards, people will have more desire to conquer them(because only to set Manor is boring :P);
-TATTO IN OLY . I hear a lot of people that want to delete it from OLY. I agree with it as I said before. When mana potion couldn't be used in oly, why can we use tatto? So I think you have to delete them;
-RATES. I hear a lot of people who complain about rates. I agree with them. I tihnk that in this part of server will be good for new people to have a server with a mid rate like 45x-50x max. People will become fastly high level, because if them see, for now, like 200 people server, don't have desire to level. So I think to upgrade server with and increase of rates;
-B GRADE SET. Now in server people who want a B GRADE SET have difficult to get because noone sell them and is boring to craft it. SO I think that you have to add this set in a NPC  to let people ot get them easily(also all C-GRADE SETS);
-MANA POTION . A lot of people wanted MANA POTION. You put your attention there for 1 month. After you don't talk anymore about it.. A lot of people left server also for it. I think you have to add them also to help new people ot level fastly and in PVP to make it also funnier. So I think that if you add them, some people will return here(like old Dragon Network);
-NORMAL S GRADE ENCHANT AND BLESSED . Other no sense idea(In my opinion) and also a lot of people complain about them is the price of them in Donny, because their price is too high both for normal and blessed Enchant Weapon S. And other thing is: why NORMALL SCROLL S GRADE rate is different than BLESSED SCROLL S GRADE? I have already listen your opinion: because you don't lose weapon ecc.. But I think that(like old times) that THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME RATE OF SUCCESS becasue 90% of people use NORMAL SCROLL because is TOO difficult to get an over enchant weapon with BLESSED SCROLL S GRADE;
-EPIC'S STRONG. I think(and also a lot of other people) that EPIC are TOO WEAK becasue you are able to kill a Baium with 1 party.. Frintezza with 2.. And also Antharas with 3 and Valakas with 4.. I think that is too easy and if you'll make them stronger, people will enjoy more to kill them;
-A DELEVEL NPC . A good idea, also is to put a NPC to delevel a char becaseu is boring to hit a guard and dead to delevel(and this is the fastest way). With NPC people will delete this boring problem like with a click;

I THINK THAT THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IDEAS FOR NOW AND FOR SERVER. I spent some time to write them SO I HOPE THST GMs and DN staff will see these and will say something and WHAT they think about THEM. I was the first to believe in this server and I continued to play there since some weeks ago, but when I heard changes and when they after 1-2 month didn' arrive, I get pissed and I left for some time(also because 0 war and 0 fight in last period because clans didn't accept war....) and if I wrote this is because I really like this server and I hope that will return as before, at start(although I think that now, in this situation, is semi-impossible....).

+1 but I believe these ideals wont happen, bcz many ppl said this many times and nothing happened just goes on death ears.

Quote from: OsirisDl on December 02, 2014, 09:58:44 PM
+1 but I believe these ideals wont happen, bcz many ppl said this many times and nothing happened just goes on death ears.

Yes, but I said also that GMs have to hear also the players, otherwise server will dead like now.

yes, but wipe it and dont make too much "unique features" like before
just implement mana potions + ud/deflect arrow nerf

i know it wont happen so gl&hf!

Yea wipe your fkin head with a shotgun same goes for all with "wipe" retarded mode kkthxbb.

Wipe is the worst thing to do now. It's useless to continue to spam: wipe, wipe, wipe. It will never happen. We don't need a fu ck ing wipe, only some CHANGES. It's so simple.

Quote from: Francy on December 02, 2014, 09:37:48 PM
Track wtf.. 1 month ago you said: there will be a lot of new changes like a new area with special mobs for spoil and many others. A lot of ppl wanted to fix tatto in Oly because it's no sense to allow it give that is the same to allow mana potion for example.. Some time ago you started a topic for mana potion and you promised to inform us about this IMPORTANT CHANGE that a lot of people wanted. I'm not saing that you and your staff careless about server because it's true(I played and saw this server since about 2007) and if this Network is still alive and with 0 or 1 wipe in 7 years is also thanks to you and stuff. BUT here in server in last time you did a little work in game because 2-3 months ago there were a lot of events and stuff like this and a lot of people enjoyed it. And about this I agree A BIT with the reply of UngO in this topic. After 1 month these events disappeared. Also there were fantastic event like Corean style event with amazing reward. These events attracted a lot of people.. but after 1-2 month disappreared. Now for me it's no sense to update Dragon Network to HB and is simple. With this CHANGE you think to appeal new people(farmer). These people after few weeks or month when they will have full gear will leave server(if not all, like 90% of them) so for ME isn't a good idea because llike other people said, if someone want to play in a HB server will go in HB server with 2-3k people. So the problem isn't this. We NEED(and these could be very good 2-3 monts ago and not at all now) some CHANGES to appeal people HERE. I tihnk also you have to hear more what people say here in forum and in this topic. Also a lot of times you said: What changes do you want people? A lot of people sais their ideas but NOONE of this was applied in server wtf.. Also this make server dead. In my opinion some good changes will be:
-SIEGE . A lot of people love them becasue they are one of most beautiful part of L2. Some if you make them with some rewards, people will have more desire to conquer them(because only to set Manor is boring :P);
-TATTO IN OLY . I hear a lot of people that want to delete it from OLY. I agree with it as I said before. When mana potion couldn't be used in oly, why can we use tatto? So I think you have to delete them;
-RATES. I hear a lot of people who complain about rates. I agree with them. I tihnk that in this part of server will be good for new people to have a server with a mid rate like 45x-50x max. People will become fastly high level, because if them see, for now, like 200 people server, don't have desire to level. So I think to upgrade server with and increase of rates;
-B GRADE SET. Now in server people who want a B GRADE SET have difficult to get because noone sell them and is boring to craft it. SO I think that you have to add this set in a NPC  to let people ot get them easily(also all C-GRADE SETS);
-MANA POTION . A lot of people wanted MANA POTION. You put your attention there for 1 month. After you don't talk anymore about it.. A lot of people left server also for it. I think you have to add them also to help new people ot level fastly and in PVP to make it also funnier. So I think that if you add them, some people will return here(like old Dragon Network);
-NORMAL S GRADE ENCHANT AND BLESSED . Other no sense idea(In my opinion) and also a lot of people complain about them is the price of them in Donny, because their price is too high both for normal and blessed Enchant Weapon S. And other thing is: why NORMALL SCROLL S GRADE rate is different than BLESSED SCROLL S GRADE? I have already listen your opinion: because you don't lose weapon ecc.. But I think that(like old times) that THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME RATE OF SUCCESS becasue 90% of people use NORMAL SCROLL because is TOO difficult to get an over enchant weapon with BLESSED SCROLL S GRADE;
-EPIC'S STRONG. I think(and also a lot of other people) that EPIC are TOO WEAK becasue you are able to kill a Baium with 1 party.. Frintezza with 2.. And also Antharas with 3 and Valakas with 4.. I think that is too easy and if you'll make them stronger, people will enjoy more to kill them;
-A DELEVEL NPC . A good idea, also is to put a NPC to delevel a char becaseu is boring to hit a guard and dead to delevel(and this is the fastest way). With NPC people will delete this boring problem like with a click;

I THINK THAT THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IDEAS FOR NOW AND FOR SERVER. I spent some time to write them SO I HOPE THST GMs and DN staff will see these and will say something and WHAT they think about THEM. I was the first to believe in this server and I continued to play there since some weeks ago, but when I heard changes and when they after 1-2 month didn' arrive, I get pissed and I left for some time(also because 0 war and 0 fight in last period because clans didn't accept war....) and if I wrote this is because I really like this server and I hope that will return as before, at start(although I think that now, in this situation, is semi-impossible....).

+1 totally ... valakas is ok .. isnt so easy XD ...
btw if u wanna pvp log any time we are online and looking for pvp XD

changes for 300 online with offline shops and dualboxes \m/
you need to realize that with current playstyle of most ppl, servers are hosted for seasson, not lifetime

Quote from: reddragonjr on December 02, 2014, 10:16:20 PM
Yea wipe your fkin head with a shotgun same goes for all with "wipe" retarded mode kkthxbb.

haha, you're such a funny guy. Seems like some ppl enjoy staing in giran all the time. Server dies, cuz of ppl like you.

Quote from: Francy on December 02, 2014, 10:26:21 PM
Wipe is the worst thing to do now. It's useless to continue to spam: wipe, wipe, wipe. It will never happen. We don't need a freaking wipe, only some CHANGES. It's so simple.

+1
we need activity...
changes will probably bring some ppl(farmers) back but not the ppl who stay a lot in a server
we need to bring a better and mature comunity
i play since 2005 almost from the beggining i stopped to try tera-aion-l2 official but always wanted to come back..
only in the hearing of new dragon server with stuck sub  i was :D :D :D :D
and now i m already searching for a new game :( :( :(
i want to stay but...

Quote from: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
haha, you're such a funny guy. Seems like some ppl enjoy staing in giran all the time. Server dies, cuz of ppl like you.

Are you stupid? Or act like one?Thank god there's still old school ppl like me and others here on forum since 2005 else this community would been fked up for good it's already 90% fked up.
There's fkin plenty of servers who do sh1t retarded wipes every 2-3 months (what's the point even playing there wasting precious hours from real life for nothing to achieve sh1t) gtfo and play there in peace if you want wipe after wipe.
Server is empty cause of low ppl like you who spam/troll/complain/qq on forum 24/7 instead to play or log in game and make pvp/action.

Some actions here , move in game?

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 11:25:38 PM
Some actions here , move in game?

Again that troll... think he wants more bans... he didn't had enough's I see  :-\  :'(
With that ppl mentality Track playing on forum for years... is low chance for action in game.

Quote from: reddragonjr on December 02, 2014, 11:22:33 PM
Are you stupid? Or act like one? There's fkin plenty of servers who do sh1t retarded wipes every 2-3 months (what's the point even playing there wasting precious hours from real life for nothing to achieve sh1t) gtfo and play there in peace if you want wipe after wipe.
Server is empty cause of low ppl like you who spam/troll/complain/qq on forum 24/7 instead to play or log in game and make pvp/action.

Nope. Server is empty, cuz of lame carebears, which need 1 year to farm stupid s grades to fight lol. These kind of ppl makes me bored killing epics by my own for 2 months and wait for some1 like you to show up. Like you did now. I prefer to not play at all or change server, if my only atraction is killing mobs. In the end it is (should be for normal people) all about pvp. I'm sorry, but you're to "low" one, since you were laying low while big bois were playing here. Know your place.

Quote from: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 11:32:04 PM
Nope. Server is empty, cuz of lame carebears, which need 1 year to farm stupid s grades to fight lol. These kind of ppl makes me bored killing epics by my own for 2 months and wait for some1 like you to show up. Like you did now. I prefer to not play at all or change server, if my only atraction is killing mobs. In the end it is (should be for normal people) all about pvp. I'm sorry, but you're to "low" one, since you were laying low while big bois were playing here. Know your place.

Don't make me laugh our crew/clan ruled the server for months ( from april until september when all stopped wars for pve lol ) we fighted/had wars with whole server any gm can confirm so gtfo.
Your to low for our skill/pvp league.When our clan reached the top in april ( 3 months=1 year? lol ) some of clans including you guys left after to much butt hurt you got from us in pvp.
You guys were so pro the 1st 2 months beating non subbed ppl with lvl's under 70 running c grade don't make me laugh while most were in S grade/subbed/epic etc.That you call pro?=))
There's tons of ss/videos of us since april with action/pvp.So stop talking fairy tales mr. "pro" wannabe on forum troll maybe.
Have fun I'm tired I got enough proofs ( ss/videos )  and many can confirm while you have just empty words.

SS2 Butt hurt !!!
Good Luck!

Quote from: reddragonjr on December 02, 2014, 11:53:49 PM
Don't make me laugh our crew/clan ruled the server for months we fighted/had wars with whole server any gm can confirm so gtfo.
Your to low for our skill/pvp league.When our clan reached the top in april ( 3 months=1 year? lol ) some of clans including you guys left after to much butt hurt you got from us in pvp.
You guys were so pro the 1st 2 months beating non subbed ppl with lvl's under 70 running c grade don't make me laugh while most were in S grade/subbed/epic etc.That you call pro?=))
There's tons of ss/videos of us since april with action/pvp.So stop talking fairy tales mr. "pro" wannabe on forum troll maybe.
Have fun I'm tired I got enough proofs ( ss/videos )  and many can confirm while you have just empty words.

SS2 Butt hurt !!!
Good Luck!

All i can say after reading this wall of crap is that you are delusional as freak.

Quote from: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 11:59:08 PM
All i can say after reading this wall of crap is that you are delusional as freak.

Well truth hurts so I feel you.Have fun with your "pro" wet fantasies dreams.

Quote from: reddragonjr on December 03, 2014, 12:00:30 AM
Well truth hurts so I feel you.Have fun with your "pro" wet fantasies dreams.

ok

Quote from: ZeniT on December 02, 2014, 09:08:55 PM
these retards killed Tara 9 months ago. srsly i never gonna understand morons like this idiot, who "dunno" anything about currently server features, meta and serverlife, but exactly know what should gm change and how to. why dont you just look for 300x crapload server and let ppl play this server, who joined here already. There are 1200 server around, everyone can find a server with features what he like and play there.

Mimimimimimi......

If u dont like it.... Post ur opinion.... Bcoz while many server still active and online bcoz retard opnions/ideas like mine many others close bcoz opinions like urs...

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Quote from: reddragonjr on December 03, 2014, 12:00:30 AM
Well truth hurts so I feel you.Have fun with your "pro" wet fantasies dreams.

Quote from: trippledouble on December 03, 2014, 12:08:10 AM
ok

Found some short funny pvp's old videos Mahum powa =)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Tf65a7tHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoHhVsiYcpM
Look your "pro" ally enclave and 1-2 exod1um dying like ants even with heroes they fail.
1 player of us=10 players of you guys quality over quantity.
I sincerely regret we didn't met in pvp...Met only Lisa,Sally,scarry,pasha,Aileen etc can't remeber atm all from old exo.
Cya.

Don't go too much off top whit your e-penis ego fight,thank you.

Track can clean all Eva but some trolls needs to be feeded as I see no spam intended.You saw our pvp's and others gm's to.
Didn't want to show off or spam I'm not that type but just to open eyes with facts for some "pro" trolls who fight only on forum instead inside the game and that trash / flame / troll  the staff / server / community.

Quote from: reddragonjr on December 03, 2014, 12:19:29 AM
Found some short funny pvp's old videos Mahum powa =)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Tf65a7tHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoHhVsiYcpM
Look your "pro" ally enclave and 1-2 exod1um dying like ants even with heroes they fail.
1 player of us=10 players of you guys quality over quantity.
Cya.

Oh, got. You seems rly butthurted. What does these frapses prove? It was enclave, not excidium and some "pasha" guy i don't rly remember tbh. Enclave were with us, cuz we wanted to gear them up to have a good opponent later on to keep the server "interesting". They knew it from the begining. We were a very good and organized clan on a few servers where we competed against eachother. Too bad that after we kicked them from ally to make this server alive, they pretty much left the, so it was just one more reason why we ended up leaving aswell, due to lack of pvp. It wasn't even the "core" enclave, which prolly would make a pretty nice carpet from all of you. Maybe we will all be able to compete against eachother in the future. Let's end the talking about the past already, cuz i don't want kabally to jump in here with the stories how awesome he was 343523453 years ago on dragon.


Done talking, thanks.

Quote from: Garro on December 03, 2014, 03:50:02 AM
Seems that Kabally won the server after all :D And I thought that it wont happen anymore but here comes a guy with his epic story about his crew rolling the 200ppl dead server and writing about it on a forum. And he even show a video of raping few destros ;D How to not love this network?

About update to HB,
Imo Track focus on future servers instead of working with the one you lost already, it won't be good for any of them.

Yea killing destros funny dude...And that video was 7 months old.
Bet you only dreamed for this kind of action / pvp SS2 wiping the floor with your old clan.1 clan vs all server not like you pussies.
There was more action in the past 7 months than when you guys were active.
You guys had 8 months while we were active to come and show us how "pro" you are but instead you guys troll / spam the forum about dead server / no action bla bla etc n/c really pathetic.
(http://i.imgur.com/WBifncj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/q2pWlGt.jpg)

Well I really wanted to have this sh1t conversation in game to pvp instead on forum but we waited 8 months for "pro" enemy ( not just some zergs who died like ants ) and nothing just spam on forum from they're side.And btw we were 3 pt vs 6 most of the times or 1 pt vs 3 and still beat the sh1t.
Btw I don't want to dig out the past same stuff happened on dragon x15 while we Severance raped yours exod1um ass for years.And there was playing the real and old exod1um not just some wannabes.
Gl and peace.I'm done to much spam and time wasted here.

i have bigger penis. thx.

This all can be again just log to baium and pvp .. all here have eq on logged out chars ... so we can make any pvp meeting XD ingame :D

Quote from: Kybel on December 03, 2014, 01:42:31 PM
This all can be again just log to baium and pvp .. all here have eq on logged out chars ... so we can make any pvp meeting XD ingame :D

I agree on this.

Just make hellbound, fix things what u write in list 'to do' and u can count for us and probably FC(I hope so) :)

I just count only for remake to alive this server, I don't care about the rest of servers what u want creat/do. I just cant imagine ppl who play sws/bd for enjoy/fun :) (Maybe other community but not this:))

Quote from: qash on December 03, 2014, 02:43:38 PM
Just make hellbound, fix things what u write in list 'to do' and u can count for us and probably FC(I hope so) :)

I just count only for remake to alive this server, I don't care about the rest of servers what u want creat/do. I just cant imagine ppl who play sws/bd for enjoy/fun :) (Maybe other community but not this:))

:D we won't be back here bro(unless it magically get like 1k ppl, which won't happen):P if we will make a fighter pt on the new hb server, i'm up for playing bd for sure, so dno what you're talking about :D :*

Quote from: trippledouble on December 03, 2014, 02:47:45 PM
:D we won't be back here bro:P if we will make a fighter pt on the new hb server, i'm up for playing bd for sure, so dno what you're talking about :D :*

Ok, wk/es/ee and sws left.  If u find them I pick OL :)
sry but I cant imagine us on retail, afk party(sponsored by wierza) on retail? come on:P

Quote from: qash on December 03, 2014, 02:52:25 PM
Ok, wk/es/ee and sws left.  If u find them I pick OL :)
sry but I cant imagine us on retail, afk party(sponsored by wierza) on retail? come on:P

we'll have 1 cp atlast. I've already spoken with few ppl, which are up for it. Sally f/e :P

Quote from: trippledouble on December 03, 2014, 02:47:45 PM
:D we won't be back here bro(unless it magically get like 1k ppl, which won't happen):P if we will make a fighter pt on the new hb server, i'm up for playing bd for sure, so dno what you're talking about :D :*

So you will be known as VashPL again, because it's the best nick for Dark Elf. xD
hahah

Quote from: Gardax on December 03, 2014, 02:56:38 PM
So you will be known as VashPL again, because it's the best nick for Dark Elf. xD
hahah

HAHAHAH :D Indeed :D

but we need changes also come Track .. show gm powa .. xD
Btw Gordon is too foked up rb on IL so change him to more better and atractive XD

Quote from: Kybel on December 03, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
but we need changes also come Track .. show gm powa .. xD
Btw Gordon is too foked up rb on IL so change him to more better and atractive XD

Tara will get its updates, but lets wait poll to end 1st, and 2nd to start OBTs on both new servers.

Track is there an ETA on the OBT's on the new ratail servers?

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 03:22:51 PM
Tara will get its updates, but lets wait poll to end 1st, and 2nd to start OBTs on both new servers.

Nice!

Quote from: Simao on December 03, 2014, 03:52:25 PM
Track is there an ETA on the OBT's on the new ratail servers?

I believe that H5 OBT should be ready by end of week, and HB will follow on week after that.

Btw if you upgrade to Hellbound, which limits Retail Subclass to lvl 80 you will kill any substacked Retail Sub-classes that is used for pvp, like f.e.  HE/WK on 1st Retail Subclass.

I personally w8 and others to for those custom mobs zone/pvp and those 2 daily custom pvp events.You said they done 2 months ago Track.I hope you didn't forgot about it :-X >:(
Other than that it can stay IL chronicle that's why most even came here.

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 04:02:16 PM
I believe that H5 OBT should be ready by end of week, and HB will follow on week after that.

I think that you're idea is to upgrade to HB and after to H5 to unite Tarantula with Dragon, becasue I think that is your idea now to let the server to stay alive, becasue for now is dead and I think also that if you'll upgrage to HB and after to H5 server will have some new ppl but when they will have equip, will leave server like Tarantula.. If server was born as Interlude, why do you have to upgrade to HB? People who came here, came for Interlude and not for HB. If do you want to solve problem on this way, I think you're making a  mistake because after 2-3 month max server will return as before. Why don't you make the things, changes and fix that you promise time ago and that people wanted a lot?

Quote from: Francy on December 03, 2014, 10:37:44 PM
I think that you're idea is to upgrade to HB and after to H5 to unite Tarantula with Dragon, becasue I think that is your idea now to let the server to stay alive, becasue for now is dead and I think also that if you'll upgrage to HB and after to H5 server will have some new ppl but when they will have equip, will leave server like Tarantula.. If server was born as Interlude, why do you have to upgrade to HB? People who came here, came for Interlude and not for HB. If do you want to solve problem on this way, I think you're making a  mistake because after 2-3 month max server will return as before. Why don't you make the things, changes and fix that you promise time ago and that people wanted a lot?

Who said i will upgrade it to Hellbound? I want to see results of the poll 1st.
However, if you and everyone else came for the Interlude, why you arent playng then? Do you think that few mobs and few drops will change current situation? I hope so, but i have a bad feeling.
Either way, everythibg what i promised will be done. I just do 1 thing at a time.

And btw i did those mobs long ago, i just didnt had time to finish the test. (If you know how, you could check that those mobs exists on server)

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 10:46:48 PM
Who said i will upgrade it to Hellbound? I want to see results of the poll 1st.
However, if you and everyone else came for the Interlude, why you arent playng then? Do you think that few mobs and few drops will change current situation? I hope so, but i have a bad feeling.
Either way, everythibg what i promised will be done. I just do 1 thing at a time.

And btw i did those mobs long ago, i just didnt had time to finish the test. (If you know how, you could check that those mobs exists on server)

The 2 daily pvp events you promised will surely boost some action hope so  ;D  And hope they better than TVT from java bcs Track you got some imagination and skills so prove my words   ;)

Bambino Francy is right! :)
Gl!

I was playing in server like some weeks ago, I log also sometime to see how is the situation in server. I'm not playing anymore because there are few reasons: me and other people(who also I think don't play anymore) want PVP but 90% of server prefer to farm and kill mobs and this way to do kill server that now is dead; a lot of people and also me ask and want CHANGES and you and your staff don't care about them, because a lot of people of community wanted them and I have never seen them applied from you(and I wrote in 2-3 replys before); also server became boring because 0 events that in last period disappear but don't only events from GMs when they logged, but events like Corean Style ecc.. . "Either way, everythibg what i promised will be done. I just do 1 thing at a time." Please Track.. How can you say this? Do you do 1 thing at a time? You had to do this things and CHANGES time ago like 2-3 months ago and don't now. Now the situation of server is dramatic and you stayed defunct for 2-3 months with 0 NEW INTERESTING THINGS. This help server to be dead like now. And also a thing. This is the most ridicolous. You and your staff PROMISE to do a VOTE MACHINE that could help server to have more votes and people could find server better(because Dragon Network Community is for 90% the same). You have never do this machine that could help server A LOT when you and your staff continued to say: yes, yes we are working on it bla bla bla.. , at start we reached 1k votes fastly, after people who receive nothing from votes, get bored and don't vote anymore. It's so simple. If you gave a reward for vote(how you promise at start: yes, we'll give REWARDS like TATTO, SPECIAL HATS AND ETC.. when we could reach like 2k votes to encourage people to vote, BUT you have never given these rewards and people don't vote anymore). Also in game always the spam of announcament that when we'll reach x votes, you'll receive a REWARD.. ye ye a reward, people didn't receive it and they didn't have interest to vote. Also here a lot of people made suggests and you didn't hear them. I know that this isn't your real job.. But Track if you want to keep a server alive, at least try to HEAR your players.. If this server is in this situation is also becasue your lack interest about PLAYERS opinion that is the most important thing.. Now you are making a poll for HB. I think that this poll doesn't have to exist because this server should remain Interlude and also I explain my opinions. I think also that you are making this poll to try to resolve server's problem when you don't want to understand that in this way server's condition will never change but will remain the same..

Quote from: Francy on December 03, 2014, 11:15:25 PM
I was playing in server like some weeks ago, I log also sometime to see how is the situation in server. I'm not playing anymore because there are few reasons: me and other people(who also I think don't play anymore) want PVP but 90% of server prefer to farm and kill mobs and this way to do kill server that now is dead; a lot of people and also me ask and want CHANGES and you and your staff don't care about them, because a lot of people of community wanted them and I have never seen them applied from you(and I wrote in 2-3 replys before); also server became boring because 0 events that in last period disappear but don't only events from GMs when they logged, but events like Corean Style ecc.. . "Either way, everythibg what i promised will be done. I just do 1 thing at a time." Please Track.. How can you say this? Do you do 1 thing at a time? You had to do this things and CHANGES time ago like 2-3 months ago and don't now. Now the situation of server is dramatic and you stayed defunct for 2-3 months with 0 NEW INTERESTING THINGS. This help server to be dead like now. And also a thing. This is the most ridicolous. You and your staff PROMISE to do a VOTE MACHINE that could help server to have more votes and people could find server better(because Dragon Network Community is for 90% the same). You have never do this machine that could help server A LOT when you and your staff continued to say: yes, yes we are working on it bla bla bla.. , at start we reached 1k votes fastly, after people who receive nothing from votes, get bored and don't vote anymore. It's so simple. If you gave a reward for vote(how you promise at start: yes, we'll give REWARDS like TATTO, SPECIAL HATS AND ETC.. when we could reach like 2k votes to encourage people to vote, BUT you have never given these rewards and people don't vote anymore). Also in game always the spam of announcament that when we'll reach x votes, you'll receive a REWARD.. ye ye a reward, people didn't receive it and they didn't have interest to vote. Also here a lot of people made suggests and you didn't hear them. I know that this isn't your real job.. But Track if you want to keep a server alive, at least try to HEAR your players.. If this server is in this situation is also becasue your lack interest about PLAYERS opinion that is the most important thing.. Now you are making a poll for HB. I think that this poll doesn't have to exist because this server should remain Interlude and also I explain my opinions. I think also that you are making this poll to try to resolve server's problem when you don't want to understand that in this way server's condition will never change but will remain the same..

Uhm, but you do understand that listening subject A makes subject B mad, because subject B doesnt want what subject A wants, therefor subject B leaves...Sometimes some decisions has to be made, even if they are a bit hard. Is it  my fault people prefer to farm instead of pvp?
Anyway, the source of the problems was large gap between levels/equip of casual and no life player.

As i said, some updates pack will be made on Tara. Will it change something, we shell see. Anyhow, ill keep this topic in order to read all suggestions when time comes for Tara.

Quote from: Francy on December 03, 2014, 11:15:25 PM
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Francy, do u even realize what are u looking for and what u and your clan created here? There is no way people will gona fight u when the diference between u nad ur clan and other ppl from other clans is such huge. U talking about no-will to fight here but what i see is fact that u cant look far away to close future and decisions u have to take. I told it already ingame to Kabally who also didnt listen. If the diference between fighting sides is to great people will stop fight and thats it. U and only u had to create and help even enemys to catch up, u have to create ur own enemies by helping them - from only reason: to catch him up and bring him to PVP what is at the end the alpha-omega u want from start. Ofc there is always a risk u can loose the lead u have but if u dont do this u dont get what are u looking for.

U shouldnt cry about fact there is no PVP at all nowdays even before. It is absolutely normal state when undergeared and underfed person wont fight u and he is rather going to farm. Did u even realized u are on FARM server? And sorry for that - this isnt pvp server at all since u had to farm ur gear up. If u are looking for PVP only and its ur main future in this game why u didnt join some xxxxxx - rate server with GM shop inside so u can get ur stuff right after u entrer and all u do from very begin is PVP only?

U didnt realize there is some butterfly effect inside each farm server like this one. People want to fight, but even the best ones will not went into brainless fights where they deal to you and ur crew 500dmg while u returing them 5000! I can easily compare it to a wish: "Hey Francy, take ur 5 balls and go fight with V. Klicko - he is awaiting u in ring". Ofc u wont fight him unless u get some weight, musculature and experiences .... and same effect u can find in this game - people wont fight u undergeared or under-experienced and u cant do much about it unless u help them.

Same about economy - what u guys did with prices ? When i started here price of Donator Coin was 40mil - nowdays its almost 150mil. I get my 1st tallum heavy set for 300mil and 1 month ago people sell them for 1bil and more? I was begging u to delete this insane prices just for ur own business since u dont see behind ur decisions but noone listen to me and u get what u deserve. Almost 0 income of new players and if someone eventually came since he look at the prices he imidiatelly leaves or farm in C - grade to 70+ lvl coz he just cant afford it. All i can say to this part is a truth citate one of my new member in clan: "Tho, this server have some great ideas and futures, but is very hostile to any newbies and i see there is no chance to play here w/o donation"...

Sorry for lenght of the post, the point is: Think about what u expecting from this game then count the real numbers of players that are playing L2 in 2014, consider fact official is for free and u get funny number of ppl willing to play L2 java servers at all. If u expecting 1500+ players u are at wrong adress since this game isnt interesting anymore for the new MMORPG community - so from my point of view Lineage 2 is a game for nostalgic players like me. This way i am gladfull for any new human beeing that join this server and its in my interest to hold him there with everything i am capable of. U are fed, and ur only goal is to PVP, he is undergeared hardly but even his main goal on server is going to PVP somewhere in future. So ur goal should be to push him / help him to reach his goal too, so u can reach ur own intereses here. This effect is called buterffly effect - all ur decisions u make in game affects others u might not even know. Its working in all MMORPGs i played since now.

Again sorry for length, had to work over-time now and sorry for english

With regards, Tyrrande

So i dont wanna went so far off-topic:

I voted NO and i would change my mind for YES only with 2 facts for consider:
1. complete removal of atributtes - i wouldnt play on server with atributes, thats why i joined interlude. But Track, if u leave atributes in game consider please a fact: There is almost 100% chance there will be again some clan/ally that will have significant lead here from very begin of this update (since there is always a group of no-lifers). That will lead to fact only them will farm the chamber with stones needed for 300 atributes. And that will leads to even bigger diferences like nowdays on tarra - that means in the end the PVP factor will disapear from this future even sooner then now on IL. I came from server where this exactly happends

2. u ll stone me for this but i have to say: Make a fix price for Donator coins in adenas like DC = 1 gold bar = 50kk or 100kk i dont know. Just dont let people make insane prices - since the donator coin as main currency is affecting economy and business on server, and fluctuating economy is what makes server stabile and bringing more and more new players in-game. This is a bit "strike bellow chest" for everyone who wants to get rich but its really needed since the people nowdays went really greedy for coins and adena collecting instead of thinking what can this effect bring to newcommers.

With regards, Tyr.

Quote from: tyrrande on December 04, 2014, 12:01:35 PM
So i dont wanna went so far off-topic:

I voted NO and i would change my mind for YES only with 2 facts for consider:
1. complete removal of atributtes - i wouldnt play on server with atributes, thats why i joined interlude. But Track, if u leave atributes in game consider please a fact: There is almost 100% chance there will be again some clan/ally that will have significant lead here from very begin of this update (since there is always a group of no-lifers). That will lead to fact only them will farm the chamber with stones needed for 300 atributes. And that will leads to even bigger diferences like nowdays on tarra - that means in the end the PVP factor will disapear from this future even sooner then now on IL. I came from server where this exactly happends

2. u ll stone me for this but i have to say: Make a fix price for Donator coins in adenas like DC = 1 gold bar = 50kk or 100kk i dont know. Just dont let people make insane prices - since the donator coin as main currency is affecting economy and business on server, and fluctuating economy is what makes server stabile and bringing more and more new players in-game. This is a bit "strike bellow chest" for everyone who wants to get rich but its really needed since the people nowdays went really greedy for coins and adena collecting instead of thinking what can this effect bring to newcommers.

With regards, Tyr.

Price of coins will always go up no matter, maybe best option is make adena drop higher. bcz if you look at dragon well adena drop is high and coins price staying the same at 1kkk. but 1kkk not to hard to get in one day on dragon also.

I don't know why players blame theirselfs. Here is you should blame staff which doesn't do anything for a few months. If you care players requests,decisions etc you already update what players want from you... now you are trying to a died server make re alive im sure you to late to do something
The poll results seems update hb,but mostly ppl want stay interlude I wondering who voting for hb

Quote from: _NecroKINGS_ on December 04, 2014, 01:28:05 PM
I don't know why players blame theirselfs. Here is you should blame staff which doesn't do anything for a few months. If you care players requests,decisions etc you already update what players want from you... now you are trying to a died server make re alive im sure you to late to do something
The poll results seems update hb,but mostly ppl want stay interlude I wondering who voting for hb

I believe tracky and his staff does care but he and his staff have there lives and work have wifes so one, they can't be here 24/7 like some kids, But what they should do is try to find a no lifer adult to become a gm. Maybe me  ::)
And as for update Tracky can't give all what the players wont or we wont be able to play so sure some things he could and others he can't.

I love how most of the comments regarding server is about the lack of PvP and they vote to upgrade to Hellbound lol
With Interlude, and especially Hellbound, Lineage 2 became even a greater farm game.

Insert C3 or C4 without boss jewellery. :p

Every1 of u is crying about this change cause there will be no pvp.Idk but do we had pvp in the last 2 months since pussymode clans declined war's so they could farm epic's.Upgrade it to HB and im sure it will bring back ppls and ignore those Interlude lover's who just stood in giran stairs enchanting and flaming on forum..

Im free,fortunatly nothig happen to me,hated and loved as G,i did the clan you all could see.

<3

SS2,gone

But if i ever come back,yall fall down again.Have fun.

Quote from: tyrrande on December 04, 2014, 11:46:16 AM
Francy, do u even realize what are u looking for and what u and your clan created here? There is no way people will gona fight u when the diference between u nad ur clan and other ppl from other clans is such huge. U talking about no-will to fight here but what i see is fact that u cant look far away to close future and decisions u have to take. I told it already ingame to Kabally who also didnt listen. If the diference between fighting sides is to great people will stop fight and thats it. U and only u had to create and help even enemys to catch up, u have to create ur own enemies by helping them - from only reason: to catch him up and bring him to PVP what is at the end the alpha-omega u want from start. Ofc there is always a risk u can loose the lead u have but if u dont do this u dont get what are u looking for.

U shouldnt cry about fact there is no PVP at all nowdays even before. It is absolutely normal state when undergeared and underfed person wont fight u and he is rather going to farm. Did u even realized u are on FARM server? And sorry for that - this isnt pvp server at all since u had to farm ur gear up. If u are looking for PVP only and its ur main future in this game why u didnt join some xxxxxx - rate server with GM shop inside so u can get ur stuff right after u entrer and all u do from very begin is PVP only?

U didnt realize there is some butterfly effect inside each farm server like this one. People want to fight, but even the best ones will not went into brainless fights where they deal to you and ur crew 500dmg while u returing them 5000! I can easily compare it to a wish: "Hey Francy, take ur 5 balls and go fight with V. Klicko - he is awaiting u in ring". Ofc u wont fight him unless u get some weight, musculature and experiences .... and same effect u can find in this game - people wont fight u undergeared or under-experienced and u cant do much about it unless u help them.

Same about economy - what u guys did with prices ? When i started here price of Donator Coin was 40mil - nowdays its almost 150mil. I get my 1st tallum heavy set for 300mil and 1 month ago people sell them for 1bil and more? I was begging u to delete this insane prices just for ur own business since u dont see behind ur decisions but noone listen to me and u get what u deserve. Almost 0 income of new players and if someone eventually came since he look at the prices he imidiatelly leaves or farm in C - grade to 70+ lvl coz he just cant afford it. All i can say to this part is a truth citate one of my new member in clan: "Tho, this server have some great ideas and futures, but is very hostile to any newbies and i see there is no chance to play here w/o donation"...

Sorry for lenght of the post, the point is: Think about what u expecting from this game then count the real numbers of players that are playing L2 in 2014, consider fact official is for free and u get funny number of ppl willing to play L2 java servers at all. If u expecting 1500+ players u are at wrong adress since this game isnt interesting anymore for the new MMORPG community - so from my point of view Lineage 2 is a game for nostalgic players like me. This way i am gladfull for any new human beeing that join this server and its in my interest to hold him there with everything i am capable of. U are fed, and ur only goal is to PVP, he is undergeared hardly but even his main goal on server is going to PVP somewhere in future. So ur goal should be to push him / help him to reach his goal too, so u can reach ur own intereses here. This effect is called buterffly effect - all ur decisions u make in game affects others u might not even know. Its working in all MMORPGs i played since now.

Again sorry for length, had to work over-time now and sorry for english

With regards, Tyrrande

Yes, I understand and I know that. I'm also in accord with you. But I said some things that could let server to be well than now..  And about the fact of clan, I know that your opinion about is right but people who didn't accept war were good equipped and they stopped for 1-2 month and when these months got over(with promise that they did accept war) they continued to didn't accept war only to farm and now that server is dead? The only thing that remained to that people is farm and stop, when they came 1-2 times in pvp. About Donator Coin I agree with you becasuse its price became so high and in Tarantula was difficult to farm adena. So will be good to avoid this inflation that destroyed server with crazy price. About the fact that someone has to help,  people to upgrade, I always help someone when he/she asked me for help, it wasn't so easy for me to help all people also because I'm not so rich in game and I don't have full equip, so I tried to do the best that i could do, but also as you said, this server is hard server for new players, becasue they have to remain in C-grade till 76 because price of A grade especially set and Donator Coin and if you don't donate at start to buy something, here is semi-impossible. About other things I agree with you.

Quote from: tyrrande on December 04, 2014, 11:46:16 AM

Ask ung0 for farm lessons.
When I started at begin server was 10x harder than now adena/items/exp/ shadow weapons etc.While I was in c/a grade 1st 2 months some no
lifers  were subbed already/and with s grade / epics etc..After I started getting all with hard work and clan team work.
So cut me the bullsh1t about some that can't compete with others.Gaved to many new comers items/adena even if I wasn't rich and even if I wasn't helped with 1 adena from others at begin... but I never was they guy to ask for stuff I always worked for mine.
If you want to compete with others than farm/donate/play hard or stfu.You cant have it all just by 1 click or doing nothing.
Good luck!

Quote from: reddragonjr on December 05, 2014, 03:27:22 AM
Ask ung0 for farm lessons.

instead of u buddy, i know ungo - Erik from real life already some long years. We share same TeamSpeak 7 or so years (17km diference between us in real live before i went to Czech) and he is not farmer at all. All he do on all servers is enchanting since he is quite lucky in that :) When he came he made +12 draconic bow - sold for 150++ coins then he made another 2 or 3 S grade weapons he sold also. So he dont have to farm a single mob. If u have 300 coins in a month or so then its easy also, but the way of enchanter isnt so easy for everyone and its seriously risky.

Consider also a fact that Catos gave Ungo his WC/OL and Dancer/SE from very begin so is quite easy to farm ur main while u have full supp buff behind ur neck - thats also not an option for any newb comming here. He also didnt need to create anything else since we always came to servers as group (Nysander, me, ungo, eddie and 4-5 other ppl). So he can focus on what he wants coz everything else can do the rest of us.

So calling ungo as an example how to farm items isnt an ideal case.

With regards, Tyrr.

Quote from: Kabally on December 04, 2014, 10:24:39 PM
Im free,fortunatly nothig happen to me,hated and loved as G,i did the clan you all could see.

<3

SS2,gone

But if i ever come back,yall fall down again.Have fun.

lol ... u fck naab .. log and u will see how its xDD

Quote from: Kybel on December 05, 2014, 12:25:52 PM
lol ... u fck naab .. log and u will see how its xDD

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Quote from: _okazaki_ on December 05, 2014, 06:13:29 PM
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Ahahahahahahahahah Nicolas Cage ahahahahahahaha

I voted yes.

in Prev. posts i read that  "the problem is  that ppl farm instead of pvp"
I guess if (i know IL client is limited, so i think it is hard) adding  this mod will fix the problem:

If "Main char" kills "player x"   then
"Main char"  gets  +1% (example) exp/sp   and
"player X" drops to "Main char"   "Y item/s" (adena or w/e)

just sayin' , nothing serious :)

Quote from: Furesy on December 04, 2014, 07:03:57 PM
I love how most of the comments regarding server is about the lack of PvP and they vote to upgrade to Hellbound lol
With Interlude, and especially Hellbound, Lineage 2 became even a greater farm game.

Insert C3 or C4 without boss jewellery. :p

without boss jewels fure there wont be motivation to go on epic bosses and bosses was always reason to pvp

Quote from: tyrrande on December 05, 2014, 10:38:03 AM
instead of u buddy, i know ungo - Erik from real life already some long years. We share same TeamSpeak 7 or so years (17km diference between us in real live before i went to Czech) and he is not farmer at all. All he do on all servers is enchanting since he is quite lucky in that :) When he came he made +12 draconic bow - sold for 150++ coins then he made another 2 or 3 S grade weapons he sold also. So he dont have to farm a single mob. If u have 300 coins in a month or so then its easy also, but the way of enchanter isnt so easy for everyone and its seriously risky.

Consider also a fact that Catos gave Ungo his WC/OL and Dancer/SE from very begin so is quite easy to farm ur main while u have full supp buff behind ur neck - thats also not an option for any newb comming here. He also didnt need to create anything else since we always came to servers as group (Nysander, me, ungo, eddie and 4-5 other ppl). So he can focus on what he wants coz everything else can do the rest of us.

So calling ungo as an example how to farm items isnt an ideal case.

With regards, Tyrr.

this is true, i was farming very short time before i get some adena to start enchant. and then i wasnt leaving town excpet for pvp i was only enchanting but as tyrrande said enchanting is risky thing and its not for all, not everyone is ready to lose all they got for enchant...also its true that i had subbed bots from beggining else i wouldnt probably playin at all since i rly hate exping and farming at all :) anyway there is always way when one wants, and since i joined server i was asking new ppls here on forum and in game too that i can help anyone who seek my help i gave coins to new ppl our clan Enclave was recruiting new ppl giving them helping hand borrowing them starting equip because we wanted create something that got meaning...im gone now and i dont know much about situation on server but as i seen from times i logged enclave still works as shelter for new ppl and this is something that got bigger value then any +++++++weapon or boss jewels...peace

Quote from: UngO on December 05, 2014, 08:20:48 PM
this is true, i was farming very short time before i get some adena to start enchant. and then i wasnt leaving town excpet for pvp i was only enchanting but as tyrrande said enchanting is risky thing and its not for all, not everyone is ready to lose all they got for enchant...also its true that i had subbed bots from beggining else i wouldnt probably playin at all since i rly hate exping and farming at all :) anyway there is always way when one wants, and since i joined server i was asking new ppls here on forum and in game too that i can help anyone who seek my help i gave coins to new ppl our clan Enclave was recruiting new ppl giving them helping hand borrowing them starting equip because we wanted create something that got meaning...im gone now and i dont know much about situation on server but as i seen from times i logged enclave still works as shelter for new ppl and this is something that got bigger value then any +++++++weapon or boss jewels...peace

check pm :D

hi all i did vote for yes
but iff that means that we lose all items and we need to start all over again
then its a big no
some people have not got the time to start all over again
becouse off work or rl things
can chars be transferred to hb and items also maybye?

Quote from: kamoose on December 06, 2014, 11:48:53 AM
hi all i did vote for yes
but iff that means that we lose all items and we need to start all over again
then its a big no
some people have not got the time to start all over again
becouse off work or rl things
can chars be transferred to hb and items also maybye?

If tarantula would get an upgrade to HB, you would still have your all characters/items at state just like in IL.

same stories everywhere lol. Ppl get items>show ballz>leave. Thats the main problem i see here. To get on top sit on a thorn abit and leave b4 any1 else could kick you out of there. If you guys are wining 10 to 1 it means enemies are dumbs or ungeard. If they are dumbs - thats gg :D. If problem is only gear just give them a time no1 is unbeatable not ss2 not anyon1 else, even the history of dn servers show it.
ps.
L2 is a marathon not a sprint.
/voted for hb! server cant be played on one chronical for ever it has no point. You need new horisonts where to grow & it not Kabllys troubles that rest cant catch up with gear. The only one who can help "lower" ppl are themselves + gms could affect ecenomy so newcommers can get easier stuff.

Quote from: N!k on December 06, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
same stories everywhere lol. Ppl get items>show ballz>leave. Thats the main problem i see here. To get on top sit on a thorn abit and leave b4 any1 else could kick you out of there. If you guys are wining 10 to 1 it means enemies are dumbs or ungeard. If they are dumbs - thats gg :D. If problem is only gear just give them a time no1 is unbeatable not ss2 not anyon1 else, even the history of dn servers show it.
ps.
L2 is a marathon not a sprint.

Thats why servers should be made like IL and upgrade every half year of every year up to h5, so there is no boring parts throught the game imo. NCsoft project with l2classic works this way and i think thats great idea to keep ppl busy ^^

Quote from: UngO on December 05, 2014, 08:13:45 PM
without boss jewels fure there wont be motivation to go on epic bosses and bosses was always reason to pvp

End-game of L2 is PvP though. Dunno what else you are going to do.

Epics ruined L2, with every new chronicle it became worse. In old times people PvP'ed at all times, in B and A grade. The difference between people with epic jewellery and those without is far too big. People won't go PvP unless they have top gear, epics (and in later chronicles augments, attributes etc.). With every chronicle it will become worse. People who reach that point fast have nothing to do since nobody will fight them.

The gap is too big. Starting a new server with chronicles like HB, Gracia or H5 will not work unless you have a significantly large playerbase (e.g. 10k+, seeing about 50% will stop playing within 2 months after launch, nothing to do with DN, but that just always happens nowadays).

All I would do is attempt to open a server with C3 or C4 and provide an incentive to clans to take control of castles (like in the old days, it was prestige, it was worth it). Massive flames and rivalries every week because of the castle sieges. Make sure max number in alliances and max number of people in clans is in balance with the total number of active players/clans to ensure there aren't enough castles to please all clans.
If the castles are really interesting to fight for, you'll have great sieges again that mean something and enough drama to come with it.

Quote from: Peorexo on December 06, 2014, 12:53:10 PM
Thats why servers should be made like IL and upgrade every half year of every year up to h5, so there is no boring parts throught the game imo. NCsoft project with l2classic works this way and i think thats great idea to keep ppl busy ^^

yes. thats true. You cant just pvp all the time it has no sence. You need to attract all kind of players on server, ofc if you want to be in top you need to pvp for it. but just sencless fighting on varka for "who has bigger ballz" will end up server with 2-3 pts bcoz to fight top pts you need : gear=time, finde decent ppl if you dont have arround=time.

Quote from: Furesy on December 06, 2014, 12:53:21 PM
End-game of L2 is PvP though. Dunno what else you are going to do.

Epics ruined L2, with every new chronicle it became worse. In old times people PvP'ed at all times, in B and A grade. The difference between people with epic jewellery and those without is far too big. People won't go PvP unless they have top gear, epics (and in later chronicles augments, attributes etc.). With every chronicle it will become worse. People who reach that point fast have nothing to do since nobody will fight them.

The gap is too big. Starting a new server with chronicles like HB, Gracia or H5 will not work unless you have a significantly large playerbase (e.g. 10k+, seeing about 50% will stop playing within 2 months after launch, nothing to do with DN, but that just always happens nowadays).

All I would do is attempt to open a server with C3 or C4 and provide an incentive to clans to take control of castles (like in the old days, it was prestige, it was worth it). Massive flames and rivalries every week because of the castle sieges. Make sure max number in alliances and max number of people in clans is in balance with the total number of active players/clans to ensure there aren't enough castles to please all clans.
If the castles are really interesting to fight for, you'll have great sieges again that mean something and enough drama to come with it.

A big +1 and you're right. It's true, new things like attributes and other sh it in new Chronicle ruined this game and the real sense of L2, that's pvp. In each Chronicle there are a lot of new things and if you want to have all, you have to be a "no lifer" becasue you have to spend so much time that a lot of people don't have nowadays. You have to understand that L2 community is an old community for 90%(not in my case) and already on IL to become full gear we spend a little time, but in HB? You have to make all attributes on weapon/armor(and I know what it means because is worst also than augumentation) and dynasty stuff that are not so easy to do. And in other Chronicles situation become worst with new jewellerys and armor like on Goddess Of Destruction. I like new things, but I hate so much to waste  a lot of time killing mobs to get it like 90% of people. And also I don't understand why do you open other 2 server.. Wtf Dragon Network has 1300 people in all and 700 offilne shop(about 1000 with 500 offilne shop on Dragon and 300 with 200 offilne shop on Tarantula. If you'll open other 2 servers, Titan and HellRaise you'll kill Tarantula and also some Dragon's people will go to other H5 server. I understand that you want to try retail system, but it's no sense to open 2 and not 1 server, becasue you'll kill more DN server's life.

Quote from: N!k on December 06, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
same stories everywhere lol. Ppl get items>show ballz>leave. Thats the main problem i see here. To get on top sit on a thorn abit and leave b4 any1 else could kick you out of there. If you guys are wining 10 to 1 it means enemies are dumbs or ungeard. If they are dumbs - thats gg :D. If problem is only gear just give them a time no1 is unbeatable not ss2 not anyon1 else, even the history of dn servers show it.
ps.
L2 is a marathon not a sprint.
/voted for hb! server cant be played on one chronical for ever it has no point. You need new horisonts where to grow & it not Kabllys troubles that rest cant catch up with gear. The only one who can help "lower" ppl are themselves + gms could affect ecenomy so newcommers can get easier stuff.

Well,its not a coincidence my name came up when people talk about tarantula,but i must tell u something bro.

I gave to over 100 players in giran like 20 kk to help them at begining 20kk each one tons of times...sometimes 1 coin and shit or even jew and equip,the thing is,tara problem wasnt gms my brother.

Tara problem was players that never came pvp,the main problem was mostly they only came pvp when to do an epic,and this is sad.

I remember 6 partys of enemies in valakas and after it we asked for pvp,and came 5 players.

So whos blaming gm's and shit,accept 1 thing,everything has a end.

Once again,tara fall down,because of players not because of GM's.

Afk wish u guys the best.

<3 SS2,<3 Sindy of Tara.

Quote from: Kabally on December 06, 2014, 07:41:18 PM

Tara problem was players that never came pvp,the main problem was mostly they only came pvp when to do an epic,and this is sad.

I remember 6 partys of enemies in valakas and after it we asked for pvp,and came 5 players.

bro. you speak about you ? and you clan ?
why you dont acept 5 first month war ?
and
WHY you asked enemies for pvp AFTER valakas ? why you dont stop he when he entered ? bussy ?
why you never acept pt vs pt ?

Quote from: Nasar on December 06, 2014, 11:39:51 PM
bro. you speak about you ? and you clan ?
why you dont acept 5 first month war ?
and
WHY you asked enemies for pvp AFTER valakas ? why you dont stop he when he entered ? bussy ?
why you never acept pt vs pt ?

We accepted wars vs all since april and that is 3 months since server started it was in middle january (18) when it opened.
And we did many pt vs pt pvp's you play on other server I think  :o

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Quote from: Nasar on December 06, 2014, 11:39:51 PM
bro. you speak about you ? and you clan ?
why you dont acept 5 first month war ?
and
WHY you asked enemies for pvp AFTER valakas ? why you dont stop he when he entered ? bussy ?
why you never acept pt vs pt ?

Dude i dont know if ur just trollin or not.

First of all ur too hipocrit to ask me items in other server and comming here talking ridiculous things about the clan you joined.

Then so sad,what pt vs pt?

Dude stfu i owned all 9vs9 i did.

More to tell you,i created a clan and after 2 weeks i had war with everyone a clan i created that made everything i wanted to do in server,without alliance,Yes i did a great clan and everyone knows it,its so sad ur upset cuz i didnt feed your WL you know,cuz u were useless hero and u left clan mad cuz i didnt tell twix to feed you.

Still ur own cp said,"dont listen nasar he always create problems in all clans"

The clan you joined and u got 1 baium witch u would never get with 3 or 4 guys alone.

Its sad u know.But people like you make me learn and grow.

And now fuk off moron.

PS:Its not my fault enemies dont know how to get best players in server close to them =)

no way jose
if players can choose IL or HB or H5 thats good
greater variety, better Population

why change tarantula to HB if  alrdy a new srv of HB is here

keep tarantula as is
IL is a good chronicle after all

Quote from: DVP on December 05, 2014, 07:46:27 PM
in Prev. posts i read that  "the problem is  that ppl farm instead of pvp"
I guess if (i know IL client is limited, so i think it is hard) adding  this mod will fix the problem:

If "Main char" kills "player x"   then
"Main char"  gets  +1% (example) exp/sp   and
"player X" drops to "Main char"   "Y item/s" (adena or w/e)

just sayin' , nothing serious :)

Quote from: Nasar on December 06, 2014, 11:39:51 PM
bro. you speak about you ? and you clan ?
why you dont acept 5 first month war ?
and
WHY you asked enemies for pvp AFTER valakas ? why you dont stop he when he entered ? bussy ?
why you never acept pt vs pt ?

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Delusion

Quote from: HerrMayer on December 07, 2014, 02:44:32 AM
no way jose
if players can choose IL or HB or H5 thats good
greater variety, better Population

why change tarantula to HB if  alrdy a new srv of HB is here

keep tarantula as is
IL is a good chronicle after all

u have no idea what are u talkin' abt
atm server is empty, ppl log to kill some bosses, mostly epics and then they log off, cuz its not attractive anymore, there is no pvp between ppl, just some random pk's at boss camp.
thats why gm's asked us to implement sth new, like new chronicle, which can bring some freshness here and players... TBH not everyone wanna play retail HB server, there is still bunch of ppl who'd like to stay with their subs but with new things to do, like beleth, dyna sets & weapons, ica weapons, attri's, etc. HB brings many new things for example skills, kamael class, etc.

Quote from: sixyPro on December 07, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
u have no idea what are u talkin' abt
atm server is empty, ppl log to kill some bosses, mostly epics and then they log off, cuz its not attractive anymore, there is no pvp between ppl, just some random pk's at boss camp.
thats why gm's asked us to implement sth new, like new chronicle, which can bring some freshness here and players... TBH not everyone wanna play retail HB server, there is still bunch of ppl who'd like to stay with their subs but with new things to do, like beleth, dyna sets & weapons, ica weapons, attri's, etc. HB brings many new things for example skills, kamael class, etc.

no man IL no kamael
stop
stfup

put high rates in tarantula kurwa and done

Quote from: sixyPro on December 07, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
u have no idea what are u talkin' abt
atm server is empty, ppl log to kill some bosses, mostly epics and then they log off, cuz its not attractive anymore, there is no pvp between ppl, just some random pk's at boss camp.
thats why gm's asked us to implement sth new, like new chronicle, which can bring some freshness here and players... TBH not everyone wanna play retail HB server, there is still bunch of ppl who'd like to stay with their subs but with new things to do, like beleth, dyna sets & weapons, ica weapons, attri's, etc. HB brings many new things for example skills, kamael class, etc.

I dont know really, so u talking ppl need something new but its still the same. Everyone cryied Tarantula died coz there were no PVP Factor inside of it. Yeah everyone wanna catch up in gear and now imagine same situation what was here + add time spend for: Farming atribute stones, Farming tonz of material for DN craft, Farming Tiat for Ica + Vesper weapons, Essenses - well over all i see is just almost double the farm people will do to get high. Double the time they ll seriously not spend in PVP - for me that will lead to 1/2 the time this server will gone aswell.

With regards, Tyr.

Are people really so delusional that they believe adding a new gear treadmill will make a server active again?

Why do people farm in L2?

Funny is when you go ninja to AQ or any other raid and suddently the surprise element is gone, they know you're there! Why? Because enemies dont only bot, they have a Nasa radar lol. Bot is one thing, now using that crap for pvp is really low...then they claim their are pro etc.

Quote from: PunkeD on December 08, 2014, 05:21:37 PM
Funny is when you go ninja to AQ or any other raid and suddently the surprise element is gone, they know you're there! Why? Because enemies dont only bot, they have a Nasa radar lol. Bot is one thing, now using that crap for pvp is really low...then they claim their are pro etc.

L2 control and other shit like this have been used since forever lol. Idk why you whine about it now lol :D I tought this topic can't get more hilarious, but seems nothing is impossible in this community :D

Quote from: PunkeD on December 08, 2014, 05:21:37 PM
Funny is when you go ninja to AQ or any other raid and suddently the surprise element is gone, they know you're there! Why? Because enemies dont only bot, they have a Nasa radar lol. Bot is one thing, now using that crap for pvp is really low...then they claim their are pro etc.

Only "pro" players use 3rd pt software or bot to compensate they lack of skills hahaha.Even with that most still suck at pvp.

Quote from: HerrMayer on December 08, 2014, 04:11:59 AM
no man IL no kamael
stop
stfup

put high rates in tarantula kurwa and done

u just said what u are, done.

Hater Hater Hater

Laugh now Cry Later <3

When you cannot do what others do you find excuses.

When your good you find solutions.

I was left in giran by blizzer ex clan leader and without clan members,all left and joined FuriosWolfs Enclave and some others clans.

Now some monkeys come up on this forum and try to send shoots directly to me saying i used bot and shit,but when those monkeys were logging in time by time to check how server was,it was me Kabally who they pm.

So b1tch please dont be hipocrit. fuk all yo

SS2 and sh1t u know..love u.

6k 6k 6k booom mahum tattoo HATERRRRRRRRRRRRR

Quote from: trippledouble on December 08, 2014, 07:20:03 PM
L2 control and other shit like this have been used since forever lol. Idk why you whine about it now lol :D I tought this topic can't get more hilarious, but seems nothing is impossible in this community :D

no new chronicle can save this server till freedome of choice will be back here...and even then its low chance to get crowded again

Quote from: Kabally on December 08, 2014, 08:07:31 PM
Hater Hater Hater

Laugh now Cry Later <3

When you cannot do what others do you find excuses.

When your good you find solutions.

I was left in giran by blizzer ex clan leader and without clan members,all left and joined FuriosWolfs Enclave and some others clans.

Now some monkeys come up on this forum and try to send shoots directly to me saying i used bot and shit,but when those monkeys were logging in time by time to check how server was,it was me Kabally who they pm.

So b1tch please dont be hipocrit. fuk all yo

SS2 and sh1t u know..love u.

6k 6k 6k booom mahum tattoo HATERRRRRRRRRRRRR

Ahahahah The Power Of Mahum Tatto ahahaha <3  ;D 8)

:)

Quote from: UngO on December 08, 2014, 08:10:07 PM

no new chronicle can save this server till freedome of choice will be back here...and even then its low chance to get crowded again

Nice, -1 rep point  and i have only 11 posts (0 flame, 0 insult, 0 arguing - i talked only with GM/Admins...) Still got -1 rep without a reason... Guys you are sick

Quote from: DVP on December 09, 2014, 03:23:24 AM
Nice, -1 rep point  and i have only 11 posts (0 flame, 0 insult, 0 arguing - i talked only with GM/Admins...) Still got -1 rep without a reason... Guys you are sick

I barely come to post in 5 years I know Dragon Network, and I have already -50 recs, but who cares...

I wont Tarantula to be upgraded to hellbound.Play in tarantula is look like play in hell.Need to ask Track why he joke with all of us?Any 1 got ews from spoil?I spoil 16 hours and nothing.NO SPOIL NO FUN !!!
                                                     ty for advice XD

So when u gonna do the update to HB?Since more ppls voted for yes

Quote from: enemy on December 10, 2014, 08:12:45 PM
So when u gonna do the update to HB?Since more ppls voted for yes

Voting closes: December 26, 2014, 11:48:19 PM

Where is the button to see the current poll results? If I remember correctly, there used to be one in other polls.

I wanna see the current poll results, but don't want to vote since it has nothing to do with me :P

Y many vote just to "vote" n/c.

Quote from: Furesy on December 10, 2014, 08:56:09 PM
Where is the button to see the current poll results? If I remember correctly, there used to be one in other polls.

I wanna see the current poll results, but don't want to vote since it has nothing to do with me :P

Just vote....

Quote from: Furesy on December 10, 2014, 08:56:09 PM
Where is the button to see the current poll results? If I remember correctly, there used to be one in other polls.

I wanna see the current poll results, but don't want to vote since it has nothing to do with me :P

I think there is no need to hide it, people must wanna see how results are going:


Yes!
    83 (55.3%)
No :(
    67 (44.7%)

PD: Yes for some reason the "No" has a sad face

Quote from: sixyPro on December 08, 2014, 08:03:28 PM
u just said what u are, done.

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Quote from: Zidkon on December 11, 2014, 02:31:24 AM
I think there is no need to hide it, people must wanna see how results are going:


Yes!
    83 (55.3%)
No :(
    67 (44.7%)

PD: Yes for some reason the "No" has a sad face

Becasue GMs want Tarantula upgrade to HB:)...

I still believe upgrade to HB and complete change of gameplay will be best choice to bring old players/new players and for constant pvp actions.

I will explain it more detaily once we start our other 2 projects.

Be patient, you will like it.

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 14, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
I still believe upgrade to HB and complete change of gameplay will be best choice to bring old players/new players and for constant pvp actions.

I will explain it more detaily once we start our other 2 projects.

Be patient, you will like it.

soo? Tarantula will be HB? :D

dont change sub-stack.....

Quote from: Nunnally on December 14, 2014, 08:57:43 PM
dont change sub-stack.....

We wont...

seems servers ll be HB so whats will be differents things ? tattos,pots? or any new update?

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 14, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
I still believe upgrade to HB and complete change of gameplay will be best choice to bring old players/new players and for constant pvp actions.

I will explain it more detaily once we start our other 2 projects.

Be patient, you will like it.

Good job

Quote from: NBD on December 15, 2014, 01:29:42 AM
Good job

Show up in ts or wtv it is just show up jizas.

are You sure that changes bring more ppl to this server ? cos i hope REALLY

Quote from: scarrface on December 15, 2014, 02:09:57 AM
are You sure that changes bring more ppl to this server ? cos i hope REALLY

Well, i cant really know that. But surely i do aim for that.

Anyhow, changes will be made to bring pvp and only pvp, farming part will be totally cutted out and Tara reverted to fit only pvp demands.

More about it once we launch 2 other servers.


Be patient.


Mucho appreciated and thank you

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 15, 2014, 02:25:35 AM
Well, i cant really know that. But surely i do aim for that.

Anyhow, changes will be made to bring pvp and only pvp, farming part will be totally cutted out and Tara reverted to fit only pvp demands.

More about it once we launch 2 other servers.


Be patient.


Mucho appreciated and thank you

I know you don't like this, but i gotta ask. Wouldn't be better to just open a completly new server like this? I think it would bring way more players than a completly dead server turned into pvp one.

Quote from: trippledouble on December 15, 2014, 12:07:26 PM
I know you don't like this, but i gotta ask. Wouldn't be better to just open a completly new server like this? I think it would bring way more players than a completly dead server turned into pvp one.

We dont terminate servers, we dont let players loose what they gained so far. I find it very lame to do so,simply because we are not doing this work for money greedyness but actually because we enjoy making something different and enojable for playing. If we earn something along the road , fine, but thats not a priority.

I believe that new players would join without problems, especially when they would be instantly top level with s items in hands ready for pvp.

There will be a lot of modifications, it will be actually totally new server in old chasis and new chronicle.

But as i said, im not giving any etas nor detailed info yet, because we have 2 big servers on opening and Tara can run until then.

Thanks

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 15, 2014, 12:54:46 PM
We dont terminate servers, we dont let players loose what they gained so far. I find it very lame to do so,simply because we are not doing this work for money greedyness but actually because we enjoy making something different and enojable for playing. If we earn something along the road , fine, but thats not a priority.

I believe that new players would join without problems, especially when they would be instantly top level with s items in hands ready for pvp.

There will be a lot of modifications, it will be actually totally new server in old chasis and new chronicle.

But as i said, im not giving any etas nor detailed info yet, because we have 2 big servers on opening and Tara can run until then.

Thanks

Thanks for the info. You actually made me thinking, cuz these modifications seems rly interesting:d

I dont hope you make this kind of actions at the server, i just made my tallum heavy set and  other s-grade stuff and it took me a lot of time , with this you make farming useless.

I believe that new players would join without problems, especially when they would be instantly top level with s items in hands ready for pvp.

Quote from: dabird1980 on December 15, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
I dont hope you make this kind of actions at the server, i just made my tallum heavy set and  other s-grade stuff and it took me a lot of time , with this you make farming useless.

I believe that new players would join without problems, especially when they would be instantly top level with s items in hands ready for pvp.

B1tch please

Quote from: dabird1980 on December 15, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
I dont hope you make this kind of actions at the server, i just made my tallum heavy set and  other s-grade stuff and it took me a lot of time , with this you make farming useless.

I believe that new players would join without problems, especially when they would be instantly top level with s items in hands ready for pvp.

Forgot to add *s grade SHADOW items*.

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 15, 2014, 12:54:46 PM
We dont terminate servers, we dont let players loose what they gained so far. I find it very lame to do so,simply because we are not doing this work for money greedyness but actually because we enjoy making something different and enojable for playing. If we earn something along the road , fine, but thats not a priority.

I believe that new players would join without problems, especially when they would be instantly top level with s items in hands ready for pvp.

There will be a lot of modifications, it will be actually totally new server in old chasis and new chronicle.

But as i said, im not giving any etas nor detailed info yet, because we have 2 big servers on opening and Tara can run until then.

Thanks

Interesting, I hope that we'll have a lot of people who will play in server like before. Although I prefer IL than HB I think that you'll make something original;). When will we have some futures about this "big changes" of Tarantula?

Quote from: Francy on December 15, 2014, 07:57:11 PM
Interesting, I hope that we'll have a lot of people who will play in server like before. Although I prefer IL than HB I think that you'll make something original;). When will we have some futures about this "big changes" of Tarantula?

I think they will do sth with Tarantula after these 2 new servers will be up and running, so we gotta be veeeeeeery patient :d

Quote from: Kabally on December 15, 2014, 05:14:49 PM
B1tch please

pls dude shut up

Quote from: dabird1980 on December 16, 2014, 10:49:52 AM
pls dude shut up

Such a fukin noob,and you s**t up not me son of a ho*stop crying a let track do his fixed you COW

Quote from: Kabally on December 16, 2014, 05:07:39 PM

Such a fukin noob,and you s**t up not me son of a ho*stop crying a let track do his fixed you COW

Said by a guy who was bitching arround saying he'll leave the server if they gonna switch to hb :D

Quote from: Kabally on December 16, 2014, 05:07:39 PM

Such a fukin noob,and you s**t up not me son of a ho*stop crying a let track do his fixed you COW

you are a pure example of how degenerated community we have

Quote from: trippledouble on December 16, 2014, 05:21:07 PM
Said by a guy who was bitching arround saying he'll leave the server if they gonna switch to hb :D

Let me tell you something,noone in this server did what ive done,noone here strugled to keep it alive as i did.

I dont wanna play HellBound so i dont play,its same u buy GTA V and in middle of game it turns into Metal Gear Solid,if you dont want you dont play simple as that.

SS2

Quote from: Kabally on December 16, 2014, 05:07:39 PM

Such a fukin noob,and you s**t up not me son of a ho*stop crying a let track do his fixed you COW

i dont understand why you dont get a perma ban, i mean come on i only tell my opinion in this case, but never mind, i hate trolls and dont want to feed them :)

Quote from: dabird1980 on December 16, 2014, 07:05:11 PM
i dont understand why you dont get a perma ban, i mean come on i only tell my opinion in this case, but never mind, i hate trolls and dont want to feed them :)

Your opinion deserve a BAN not my "b1tch please".

How can ask gm to dont help new players when everything you need is new players?

Listen what you do in real life when you have a business going down?

You put ur prices lower and give some nice offerts thats what TrackZero is trying to do,but people like you dont understand.

So if u felt insulted,im sorry in front of all for that,go enjoy your game.

Btw i have there 2 x QA and draco f 10 duel might ,want it for free with promisse u dont cry in forum? <3

ITENS PLX

Stop shit talking, stop writing some sad stories and let them work. Kabally, some times i just give up when i listen ur stories :P
U want rly help this server? stop answare for stupid hates and posts. U can only count for GM not for this community!
Every where is hate o/

Sub stack servers bring mutation to its community seems.

Retail ones , they keep it clean and simple.

Thats how it seems....

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 16, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
Sub stack servers bring mutation to its community seems.

Retail ones , they keep it clean and simple.

Thats how it seems....

You should have seen mid rate retail pvp based servers community i've been playing with for about 2 years :D You wouldn't even believe how retarded ppl could be. There's even no comparison to this one.

Lemme give you a perfect example! EVEN I (you know i like to shittalk) didn't take part of forum "conversations", since i couldn't handle the retardness. :D

So there's a bright side. It can always be way worse than it is already.

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 14, 2014, 08:59:50 PM
We wont...

and bring back tanks at their full strenght!!!

Is it true that mutants in HB only can be lvl 80 and "normal" subclasses can go 85?  :-*

Quote from: MILFHUNTER on December 17, 2014, 06:44:31 PM
Is it true that mutants in HB only can be lvl 80 and "normal" subclasses can go 85?  :-*

y

We want it H5!

Quote from: ozyn on December 18, 2014, 12:23:18 PM
We want it H5!

no , go from interlude to Epic Tale of Aden chapter 2 substack!

dnet should make tarantula similar like (ARENA) well almost know how was arena when INTERLUDE or HELLBOUND or atleast create a server like that.

Quote from: _NecroKINGS_ on December 19, 2014, 01:31:59 AM
dnet should make tarantula similar like (ARENA) well almost know how was arena when INTERLUDE or HELLBOUND or atleast create a server like that.

high rate pvp server would be cool

How about no?!Just upgrade to HB and keep the rates ...

Quote from: UngO on December 19, 2014, 02:31:09 AM
high rate pvp server would be cool

+

keep IL and high rates

That upgrade would mean server vipe?

Quote from: mastex on December 19, 2014, 07:52:16 AM
That upgrade would mean server vipe?

No...

Quote from: UngO on December 19, 2014, 02:31:09 AM
high rate pvp server would be cool

Indeed. High rate pvp HB server would be a dream comming true(for me atlast) . It would fit a lot more of stacksub players, cuz they wouldnt have to farm for ages to have fun in pvp. This comminity is getting older and older.

And those who farmed ages in IL for epic jewels can fcktheirselfs since in High rate every1 will buy epic jewels from gm shop or whateva this is just a stupid idea if u want pvp server then go to hopzone and search one stay on PI for 3h and just press f1 and to village and  u have ur pvp

no kamaels ... no mutants PLX T_T

Quote from: enemy on December 19, 2014, 04:32:01 PM
And those who farmed ages in IL for epic jewels can fcktheirselfs since in High rate every1 will buy epic jewels from gm shop or whateva this is just a stupid idea if u want pvp server then go to hopzone and search one stay on PI for 3h and just press f1 and to village and  u have ur pvp

ye like its problem to not include epic jewels in donate shop right...i had all epics in tarantula in 5 weeks without any farm or leaving town so tell me more of your silly excuses or how hard is to farm...l2 is about pvp and only about pvp since ages and those who find joy in farming 24/7 should play more farm based games i guess...in l2 everyone farm to get equip to do pvp so tell me whats wrong on skiping long hours of exp and farm and jump on pvp the reason why we play this game

You had ur sh1tty epic jewels cause u joined the server after xx months like its so hard to log bd/se wc/ol and farm ur stuff in 2weeks those who played or still play here from the beginning they started from 0.Oh u got rb jewels from a clan which had tons of qa's etc which was like free u just stood in giran stairs doing soome business enchanting after leaving town u got owned so better if u leave this topic with ur sh1t flood's.There will be no high rate if u want pvp then after server will be HB move to HB island and lets fight for the farm spots and for the bosses end of conversation nonfactor.

Quote from: enemy on December 19, 2014, 08:04:13 PM
You had ur sh1tty epic jewels cause u joined the server after xx months like its so hard to log bd/se wc/ol and farm ur stuff in 2weeks those who played or still play here from the beginning they started from 0.Oh u got rb jewels from a clan which had tons of qa's etc which was like free u just stood in giran stairs doing soome business enchanting after leaving town u got owned so better if u leave this topic with ur sh1t flood's.There will be no high rate if u want pvp then after server will be HB move to HB island and lets fight for the farm spots and for the bosses end of conversation nonfactor.

ok pls some1 tell this newb who am i and how i get my items pls because im too tired to give lessons to wannabies...i didnt get nothing from clan or 3rd person but i seee u get some envy here son all my items was achieved by me and without farm no clan gave me single item (if i dont count some random a grade crap) so pls talk this crap to some1 who believe u ....i get owned by who haha u? ppl die in pvp same as i did many times same as enemies was dying, but noone even knows here who u r ig and i dont even need to be respected by some unknown sh1t faggot from Syndi i had friends on higher places then some random craptalking maggot who came out from his hole and pretend to care about server and shit

Quote from: UngO on December 19, 2014, 08:47:58 PM
ok pls some1 tell this newb who am i and how i get my items pls because im too tired to give lessons to wannabies...i didnt get nothing from clan or 3rd person but i seee u get some envy here son all my items was achieved by me and without farm no clan gave me single item (if i dont count some random a grade crap) so pls talk this crap to some1 who believe u ....i get owned by who haha u? ppl die in pvp same as i did many times same as enemies was dying, but noone even knows here who u r ig and i dont even need to be respected by some unknown sh1t faggot from Syndi i had friends on higher places then some random craptalking maggot who came out from his hole and pretend to care about server and shit

sup? Cronx :)

Yes pls somebody tell me from where he got chars to lvl up and a grade stuff for start.I guess it was Catos who gave u his account.And y ppls dont need to know who i am u could see ingame but since u didnt left girans stairs u missed it  ;)

Quote from: enemy on December 19, 2014, 11:38:08 PM
Yes pls somebody tell me from where he got chars to lvl up and a grade stuff for start.I guess it was Catos who gave u his account.And y ppls dont need to know who i am u could see ingame but since u didnt left girans stairs u missed it  ;)

+1 ahah;)

Quote from: enemy on December 19, 2014, 11:38:08 PM
Yes pls somebody tell me from where he got chars to lvl up and a grade stuff for start.I guess it was Catos who gave u his account.And y ppls dont need to know who i am u could see ingame but since u didnt left girans stairs u missed it  ;)

so what bich i got chars from catos on start and why i got em? did any new guy who came here get some chars for start or something? everything u get u must earn and i earned trust of best players because im ungo, played here years and known by many respected players still i achieved more then 90% of your crapy clan in 5 weeks and i can say i have more coins then you or anyone else here from your crapy clan maybe except for my bro kab or crunch. so pls biitch hate on me more i will be laughing on you with your clanmates who liked me maybe more then they ever liked you ;) stay in privacy forum hero since except crunch kab puff admiral khamoon and some few cool guys from your clan syndi was nothing and you will remain nothing, have a nice day Hoe. kisses UngO...and btw smiting me on forum because you get truth to your ugly face is beyond your lameness (and u r example of it) :))))

Quote from: sixyPro on December 19, 2014, 09:57:37 PM
sup? Cronx :)

yo bro :) wasup mate i just droped by to clear some mess after your ex clanmates ;) anyway how are you hanging somewhere?

Quote from: UngO on December 20, 2014, 01:24:53 AM
so what bich i got chars from catos on start and why i got em? did any new guy who came here get some chars for start or something? everything u get u must earn and i earned trust of best players because im ungo, played here years and known by many respected players still i achieved more then 90% of your crapy clan in 5 weeks and i can say i have more coins then you or anyone else here from your crapy clan maybe except for my bro kab or crunch. so pls biitch hate on me more i will be laughing on you with your clanmates who liked me maybe more then they ever liked you ;) stay in privacy forum hero since except crunch kab puff admiral khamoon and some few cool guys from your clan syndi was nothing and you will remain nothing, have a nice day Hoe. kisses UngO

He doesn't know the true meaning of farming

Quote from: Francy on December 19, 2014, 11:44:24 PM
+1 ahah;)

francy the he/pp who call you for duel on selfbuff to prove who is better when you are he/wl..pls how dare you even talk when you played on server almost since start and when i came on server you was still in a grade after 5 weeks i made all rb jewels sets +10 weapons etc and u was still in a grade standing in giran...only time i seen u on pvp and i was on all epics since i joined  server even on those late night etc was in that friendly varka pvp where u did some crits 4k+++ on me and u was pming me like little kid from uganda who drinks coca cola for the 1st time in his life till i blocked you roflmao

hahahahahaha those flames are epic, keep it up pls :D

Quote from: UngO on December 19, 2014, 06:48:53 PM
i had all epics in tarantula in 5 weeks without any farm or leaving town so tell me more of your silly excuses or how hard is to farm...

Quote from: UngO on December 20, 2014, 01:34:55 AM
i was on all epics since i joined  server even on those late night etc

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Quote from: Dramenos on December 20, 2014, 03:04:08 AM
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LMFAO

Quote from: Dramenos on December 20, 2014, 03:04:08 AM
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hahahahahah :D

Quote from: UngO on December 20, 2014, 01:34:55 AM
francy the he/pp who call you for duel on selfbuff to prove who is better when you are he/wl..pls how dare you even talk when you played on server almost since start and when i came on server you was still in a grade after 5 weeks i made all rb jewels sets +10 weapons etc and u was still in a grade standing in giran...only time i seen u on pvp and i was on all epics since i joined  server even on those late night etc was in that friendly varka pvp where u did some crits 4k+++ on me and u was pming me like little kid from uganda who drinks coca cola for the 1st time in his life till i blocked you roflmao

Ahahaha, you're ridicolous, I started and NOONE HELP ME, I started with a PP and I farmed at start with my brother with 0 support, you started with all support and stuff so for you were easy to make items fastly, I had to farm hard to make my items, but when I finished I always went to EPICS, PVP and stuff like these and I enjoyed a lot. I have never seen you to 1 EPIC, I always saw you on Giran Stairs to enchant, the only thing that you know to do and your big lucky make you to had all what you have now. And in PVP you were so weak;) Full equip and max that you could do is 2k and with 2 crits you were down and about the 1 vs 1 is obvious that if we made I'll lose in my 1* class, I made that only because I had to start with a PP to farm my things, instead you that could start with class that you wanted. And when I called you for 1 vs 1 in selfbuff you didn't want to do, so shut up. And if you made also all it's also because you came when server was almost dead and the price of RB JEWS was so low(a QA 40-50 dc a zaken 30 and a Fritnezza also 25-30) so please don't feel like a PRO becasue you aren't:).

Teh forum warriors, without any easygoing updates and x2 endgame rates you both would be a bunch of crybabies :D

Quote from: Dramenos on December 20, 2014, 03:04:08 AM
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and again random craps wanna take bite from cake...cool gif

Quote from: Francy on December 20, 2014, 02:30:36 PM
Ahahaha, you're ridicolous, I started and NOONE HELP ME, I started with a PP and I farmed at start with my brother with 0 support, you started with all support and stuff so for you were easy to make items fastly, I had to farm hard to make my items, but when I finished I always went to EPICS, PVP and stuff like these and I enjoyed a lot. I have never seen you to 1 EPIC, I always saw you on Giran Stairs to enchant, the only thing that you know to do and your big lucky make you to had all what you have now. And in PVP you were so weak;) Full equip and max that you could do is 2k and with 2 crits you were down and about the 1 vs 1 is obvious that if we made I'll lose in my 1* class, I made that only because I had to start with a PP to farm my things, instead you that could start with class that you wanted. And when I called you for 1 vs 1 in selfbuff you didn't want to do, so shut up. And if you made also all it's also because you came when server was almost dead and the price of RB JEWS was so low(a QA 40-50 dc a zaken 30 and a Fritnezza also 25-30) so please don't feel like a PRO becasue you aren't:).

rip english omfg....dude excuses excuses excuses retard where is your price for my valakas or baium ha? thats also 50 coins? u never heard about that jewels or even seen it so pls dont talk u played on server 20x longer and still u look like beggar from streets :) francy francy stay low pls where u belong..and pp/he and wanna go selfbuff 1v1 vs he/wl? NEVER GO FULL RETARD AGAIN

Quote from: Peorexo on December 20, 2014, 02:37:53 PM
Teh forum warriors, without any easygoing updates and x2 endgame rates you both would be a bunch of crybabies :D

well mate i played 2 years on 1x official like server where i made as+14 and other high enchants so plssss....

Quote from: UngO on December 20, 2014, 03:10:33 PM
well mate i played 2 years on 1x official like server where i made as+14 and other high enchants so plssss....

And being lucky in enchants means you are pro yes? Well if you think that then go for it.

Quote from: Peorexo on December 20, 2014, 03:16:42 PM
And being lucky in enchants means you are pro yes? Well if you think that then go for it.

enchanting dont got nothing with luck its pure math and graphs and balls to do it thats all...i never claimed im pro as player but for sure i did some great enchants in all servers where i played...ppl who dont got balls to enchants always envy.

Quote from: Peorexo on December 20, 2014, 03:16:42 PM
And being lucky in enchants means you are pro yes? Well if you think that then go for it.

I made +30 weapon on some highrate server, is it mean that I'm more PRO then him? :D

P.S. Conversation on this topic make me really laugh. :D

Quote from: Gardax on December 20, 2014, 03:27:02 PM
I made +30 weapon on some highrate server, is it mean that I'm more PRO then him? :D

P.S. Conversation on this topic make me really laugh. :D

how many +++ 10 weapons u did on tarantula son? hmm? go check screenshots topic and go jerk off on my enchants

Quote from: UngO on December 20, 2014, 03:28:23 PM
how many +++ 10 weapons u did on tarantula son? hmm? go check screenshots topic and go jerk off on my enchants

Have you played Tarantula server? Oo

Quote from: Gardax on December 20, 2014, 03:30:46 PM
Have you played Tarantula server? Oo

nope i only played here on forum omg...ofc i did

Quote from: UngO on December 20, 2014, 03:31:54 PM
nope i only played here on forum omg...ofc i did

hmm, maybe like "Giran Stairs Ranger", because I don't remember you on PVPs. :)

Quote from: UngO on December 20, 2014, 03:06:57 PM
rip english omfg....dude excuses excuses excuses retard where is your price for my valakas or baium ha? thats also 50 coins? u never heard about that jewels or even seen it so pls dont talk u played on server 20x longer and still u look like beggar from streets :) francy francy stay low pls where u belong..and pp/he and wanna go selfbuff 1v1 vs he/wl? NEVER GO FULL RETARD AGAIN

Ye, r.i.p English, of course, from as an Italian boy with  15 years I write English better than you, but exclude this, I had Baium and I knew that price;) at last part of server it was 120 dc max and about Valakas maybe the last RB JEW with Antharas that had a big price there in server and no1 sold it so is difficult to give a price to it. A beggar from streets? Maybe at start because I had to farm all, but why do you fell so rich? You have only lucky on enchant, on other thing you're 0. At finish I farmed like 150 dc in less than 1 month but server died and I couldn't continue to improve my equipments with a db+f+++(because I broke a few times) and auguments and this isn't my fault and as I wrote before, although you had full equip+++ you crit me max 1.9k so why do you talk? Why do you fell so pro when you on Tarantula achieved only few items and bow++? You're ridiculous, you show anything on this server, you played for 3-4 months, farm/enchant and you left, so shut up. Francy stay Low where I belong? Who care. I stay where I worth to stay, I interest to enjoy myself to play, I don't care if I'm not so "Famous" in game, I'm not a "Nolifer" gamer and I don't care, if I have to stay high I have to play 24/7 and I'm not interested to do that so. It's not my problem if you're so obsessed to be "Famous" in a semi-dead server and game, so if you auto-identify yourself like a "Pro"(when you don't are like it) it's your problem. And in your opinion a PP/HE can go fullbuffed vs a HE/WL.. It's obvious that you'll win retard guy, a PP/HE after C4 is only an HE, instead a HE/WL has a lot of stuff than a PP/HE in full-buffed pvp 1 vs 1. So when I came in pvp as PR/BD in fullbuff I raped you with 2 hit, when you gave me how much? 1.9k? Wow your full-equipped matter a lot when you do so much damage and go down with 2 crit.  Infact I rarely came in pvp as an HE/PP because I knew that is low in full-buffed vs other classes, infact as I said before I did it only because I needed to start as PP to farm. But what can I expect from a guy who fell "Pro" because he enchanted some weapons+++? Ahaha so funny;)

Quote from: trippledouble on December 19, 2014, 01:00:06 PM
Indeed. High rate pvp HB server would be a dream comming true(for me atlast) . It would fit a lot more of stacksub players, cuz they wouldnt have to farm for ages to have fun in pvp. This comminity is getting older and older.

BUMP!

It is the best idea for Tarantula server. : )

Quote from: UngO on December 20, 2014, 03:28:23 PM
how many +++ 10 weapons u did on tarantula son? hmm? go check screenshots topic and go jerk off on my enchants

You gotta hold your horses. No1 even know what your IG nick was, since prolly you're the one of these pro players, which magically showed up after all good clans and 90% of the players left. No1 cares about your enchants on a dead server, no1 gives a freak about your awesome offcial experience. We are on Tarantula forum, talking about Tarantula server and you did nothing special on it.

From 0 to 22 !
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OVER 36 THOUSAND
(http://i.imgur.com/KoYnY10.jpg)

True story
100% legit

WHO GOT THE BIGGEST EPENIS NOW?!

@rly love topics like this one :O

Quote from: Francy on December 20, 2014, 03:48:37 PM
Ye, r.i.p English, of course, from as an Italian boy with  15 years I write English better than you, but exclude this, I had Baium and I knew that price;) at last part of server it was 120 dc max and about Valakas maybe the last RB JEW with Antharas that had a big price there in server and no1 sold it so is difficult to give a price to it. A beggar from streets? Maybe at start because I had to farm all, but why do you fell so rich? You have only lucky on enchant, on other thing you're 0. At finish I farmed like 150 dc in less than 1 month but server died and I couldn't continue to improve my equipments with a db+f+++(because I broke a few times) and auguments and this isn't my fault and as I wrote before, although you had full equip+++ you crit me max 1.9k so why do you talk? Why do you fell so pro when you on Tarantula achieved only few items and bow++? You're ridicolous, you show anything on this server, you played for 3-4 months, farm/enchant and you left, so shut up. Francy stay Low where I belong? Who care. I stay where I worth to stay, I interest to enjoy myself to play, I don't care if I'm not so "Famous" in game, I'm not a "Nolifer" gamer and I don't care, if I have to stay high I have to play 24/7 and I'm not interested to do that so. It's not my problem if you're so obsessed to be "famous" in a semi-dead server and game, so if you auto-identify yourself like a "Pro"(when you don't are like it) it's your problem. And in your opinion a PP/HE can go fullbuffed vs a HE/WL.. It's obvious that you'll win retard guy, a PP/HE after C4 is only an HE, instead a HE/WL has a lot of stuff than a PP/HE in full-buffed pvp 1 vs 1. So when I came in pvp as PR/BD in fullbuff I raped you with 2 hit, when you gave me how much? 1.9k? Wow your full-equipped matter a lot when you do so much damage and go down with 2 crit.  Infact I rarely came in pvp as an HE/PP because I knew that is low in fullbuffed vs other classes, infact as I said before I did it only because I needed to start as PP to farm. But what can I expect from a guy who fell "Pro" because he enchanted some weapons+++? Ahaha so funny;)

"« Last Edit: Today at 03:20:56 PM by Francy »"
i wonder how it was before editing Lol

Quote from: DVP on December 20, 2014, 05:23:29 PM
"« Last Edit: Today at 03:20:56 PM by Francy »"
i wonder how it was before editing Lol

It was without the last phrase ahah:).

So ridiculous

Quote from: UngO on December 20, 2014, 01:26:04 AM
yo bro :) wasup mate i just droped by to clear some mess after your ex clanmates ;) anyway how are you hanging somewhere?

playin' LoL time to time, bronze 4ever, what abt u?

Quote from: Morel on December 20, 2014, 05:19:47 PM
From 0 to 22 !
(http://i.imgur.com/jATuC9o.jpg)

OVER 36 THOUSAND
(http://i.imgur.com/KoYnY10.jpg)

True story
100% legit

WHO GOT THE BIGGEST EPENIS NOW?!

@rly love topics like this one :O

l2phx, easy script, thats why u are close to wh ;)

phx fakes morela haha <3

Quote from: trippledouble on December 20, 2014, 05:01:53 PM
You gotta hold your horses. No1 even know what your IG nick was, since prolly you're the one of these pro players, which magically showed up after all good clans and 90% of the players left. No1 cares about your enchants on a dead server, no1 gives a freak about your awesome offcial experience. We are on Tarantula forum, talking about Tarantula server and you did nothing special on it.

you are kinda wrong mate on this...i shown on server when it had two big sides ye maybe not in the biggest rush server had but still in good days when server was still crowded and what i did? in 1st 5 weeks of my playin i enchanted over 10 +6 sets +10 bows +9bows +8bows +10 som +12 tallum glaive some +10 jewels etc and i was captain in good clan in clan where i didnt knew noone before so tell me how is that possible if i didnt do nothing like u said :) in this very short time i was playing here i was on over 100 epics and pvps also and i made tons of screens and posted em on forum so all i say here are facts based on proofs u can search for if u wanna ;) my char ig was eXistenZ then Mia remade enclave clan made working ally then moved to FC was part of makin big ally who stoped syndicates farm for the time this ally was together hmm i think i earned enough respect to talk here like i did anyway thats not the point...point is that ppl like francy who was part of mass who was always on winning zerg sides talk like they did something great i was in almost empty clan in times when syndi was raping all farm on server and i had xxxxx pms from cls of other clans even from syndi ppl to join them and i never did it even i could cuz i was loyal to my friends and to the side i chosen i was working hard to change something on server to bring more fun for ppl who didnt wanna change sides like hoes not speakin of fact that im old nmx30 player that played in this comunity since 2005 so pls get facts before you judge me bro

Quote from: sixyPro on December 20, 2014, 09:58:39 PM
playin' LoL time to time, bronze 4ever, what abt u?

hah cronx :P hit me up on EuNe OnTheMission nick ill cary you nuuba ass :P

Quote from: UngO on December 23, 2014, 05:31:50 PM
you are kinda wrong mate on this...i shown on server when it had two big sides ye maybe not in the biggest rush server had but still in good days when server was still crowded and what i did? in 1st 5 weeks of my playin i enchanted over 10 +6 sets +10 bows +9bows +8bows +10 som +12 tallum glaive some +10 jewels etc and i was captain in good clan in clan where i didnt knew noone before so tell me how is that possible if i didnt do nothing like u said :) in this very short time i was playing here i was on over 100 epics and pvps also and i made tons of screens and posted em on forum so all i say here are facts based on proofs u can search for if u wanna ;) my char ig was eXistenZ then Mia remade enclave clan made working ally then moved to FC was part of makin big ally who stoped syndicates farm for the time this ally was together hmm i think i earned enough respect to talk here like i did anyway thats not the point...point is that ppl like francy who was part of mass who was always on winning zerg sides talk like they did something great i was in almost empty clan in times when syndi was raping all farm on server and i had xxxxx pms from cls of other clans even from syndi ppl to join them and i never did it even i could cuz i was loyal to my friends and to the side i chosen i was working hard to change something on server to bring more fun for ppl who didnt wanna change sides like hoes not speakin of fact that im old nmx30 player that played in this comunity since 2005 so pls get facts before you judge me bro

I never talk like I "did something great" and Syndicate didn't be "zerg side" instead when all cried about our, Kabally even broke ally and we were 1 clan vs all server and we raped all at same so;) and I stayed for 2/4 of time in other clan like Toxic and EB(at start)  and others that were normal.

Quote from: Francy on December 24, 2014, 03:29:17 AM
I never talk like I "did something great" and Syndicate didn't be "zerg side" instead when all cried about our, Kabally even broke ally and we were 1 clan vs all server and we raped all at same so;) and I stayed for 2/4 of time in other clan like Toxic and EB(at start)  and others that were normal.

dude this is bullshit and u know it kab decided to disolve ally after some chat with some1 who i dont wanna talk about and what he did after he broke ally? he took best players from fc to his clan anyway and recruited even other ppl so it was totaly same crap, and when we made ally with excidium and unity u started lose epics except some baiums and then syndi started cry about some exploit that we do to disconnect em during epics :D:D:D which was kinda pathetic...anyway like it matters now noone plays anyway so we can continue this argues till end of times

Quote from: UngO on December 24, 2014, 04:38:27 AM
dude this is bullshit and u know it kab decided to disolve ally after some chat with some1 who i dont wanna talk about and what he did after he broke ally? he took best players from fc to his clan anyway and recruited even other ppl so it was totaly same crap, and when we made ally with excidium and unity u started lose epics except some baiums and then syndi started cry about some exploit that we do to disconnect em during epics :D:D:D which was kinda pathetic...anyway like it matters now noone plays anyway so we can continue this argues till end of times

Kabally recruited these players after a bit time and one CP doesn't make a clan so, but I quote last phrase because is useless to continue to argue about these old things when server is reduced like now.. Just wait some good news and we could try to avoid these kinds of spams/flames.. :)

Quote from: UngO on December 24, 2014, 04:38:27 AM
dude this is bullshit and u know it kab decided to disolve ally after some chat with some1 who i dont wanna talk about and what he did after he broke ally? he took best players from fc to his clan anyway and recruited even other ppl so it was totaly same crap, and when we made ally with excidium and unity u started lose epics except some baiums and then syndi started cry about some exploit that we do to disconnect em during epics :D:D:D which was kinda pathetic...anyway like it matters now noone plays anyway so we can continue this argues till end of times

Live by the legeNd,die by the legeNd.

Remember me as an OutcastOutlaw i was

Thank you for trying to lower my work while i played there,matter fact,noone did it better,but still my job wasnt good aith?

People gotta go find excuses to justify my succed,no worries,have fun.

Fuk all you haterz.

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