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Title: Hard with no MP
Post by: Oblique on January 13, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
Server is hard to play with no mana herbs from monsters. If you dont want to <unbalance> PvP, dont place mana potions on server, but let mobs drop herbs of MP for a normal farm/EXP.
Daggers/Archers/Duelists and any fighter kills mages anyway so easy in few shots. Mages are for farming and that is slow/hard to make without enough MP.
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 13, 2015, 10:33:02 PM
Quote from: Oblique on January 13, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
Server is hard to play with no mana herbs from monsters. If you dont want to <unbalance> PvP, dont place mana potions on server, but let mobs drop herbs of MP for a normal farm/EXP.
Daggers/Archers/Duelists and any fighter kills mages anyway so easy in few shots. Mages are for farming and that is slow/hard to make without enough MP.
They dont drop mana herbs? Weird, ill check and add asap!
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 13, 2015, 11:20:31 PM
Quote from: Oblique on January 13, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
Server is hard to play with no mana herbs from monsters. If you dont want to <unbalance> PvP, dont place mana potions on server, but let mobs drop herbs of MP for a normal farm/EXP.
Daggers/Archers/Duelists and any fighter kills mages anyway so easy in few shots. Mages are for farming and that is slow/hard to make without enough MP.
However, you do know that adding mana herbs into High Five mobs means its a custom thing, since retail mobs on h5 do not drop them by default. Therefor i would need to hear other players as well, what they think about it.

Thank you
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: Hirotaka on January 14, 2015, 02:06:37 AM
I think herbs are important its drives the economy.
And its funny to farm herbs and sells potion :D
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 14, 2015, 02:17:47 AM
Quote from: Hirotaka on January 14, 2015, 02:06:37 AM
I think herbs are important its drives the economy.
And its funny to farm herbs and sells potion :D
Its not that kind if herba he said above.
Those mana herbs drop after you kill a mob and instantly charge your mana back.
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: Oblique on January 14, 2015, 04:28:04 AM
I was saying what I think can make Titan server more appealling.
We tested with SE+Necro+BD to kill a Gem dragon. Taking also in consideration that we used top items from GM shop (archangel sword +8, elegia , bla-bla Valakas) which wont be at hand when OBT end. Took about 2 mins to kill 1 gem dragon using root. Otherwise a gem dragon could kill the Necro in 1-2 hits.
After 2 mobs, mana pool of Necro went to 50%.
I will test also other char for real farming and see how is it.
I think mana is necessary for farming. H5 is a farming chronicle.
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: =drake= on January 14, 2015, 04:45:29 AM
We are talking about RETAIL mana herbs, not the ones of dragon used to make potions (that's a custom thing)

Since last reboot, Mana Herbs (and all other herbs as of official) are now dropped with a x2 rate (instead of retail rate as before)

To make an example: a Goblin on retail (and before reboot) have 5.5% to drop a simple Mana Herb, now is 11%

Note:
-not all monsters drop herbs
-different monsters have different sets of herbs
-different monsters have different chances
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: Kinder-Surprise on January 14, 2015, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: =drake= on January 14, 2015, 04:45:29 AM
We are talking about RETAIL mana herbs, not the ones of dragon used to make potions (that's a custom thing)

Since last reboot, Mana Herbs (and all other herbs as of official) are now dropped with a x2 rate (instead of retail rate as before)

To make an example: a Goblin on retail (and before reboot) have 5.5% to drop a simple Mana Herb, now is 11%

Note:
-not all monsters drop herbs
-different monsters have different sets of herbs
-different monsters have different chances

So far me and my clan have only tested some pvp skills/interracials etc etc, but tonight til the end of the OBT we ll try to pex some char to see what's is up !! :)

But Even if i did not test everything first, i can say that, there is areas where mana herbs and herbs are not droppable because in H5 "retail" like the moderator said, it is not by default.

Second point, If u need mana think about useing clarity/dance of concentration/ dance of mystic, the mana custom potion which one regenerates ur mp on a duration, no more instant; Is really GOOD ( later u il use song of runewal and awesome prof..)

More u can use SE/EE/PP to get some MP back, u can also lvl up a kooka, and sometimes u can jsut sit down and replenish all your MP.. :)


Anyway i will give anothers feedback when i ve tested that.
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: popof on January 14, 2015, 03:05:44 PM
Quote from: Oblique on January 13, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
Server is hard to play with no mana herbs from monsters. If you dont want to <unbalance> PvP, dont place mana potions on server, but let mobs drop herbs of MP for a normal farm/EXP.
Daggers/Archers/Duelists and any fighter kills mages anyway so easy in few shots. Mages are for farming and that is slow/hard to make without enough MP.

USE Kookaburra bro and who need herbs? lol
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: Oblique on January 14, 2015, 06:47:09 PM
Quote from: Kinder-Surprise on January 14, 2015, 02:52:45 PM
So far me and my clan have only tested some pvp skills/interracials etc etc, but tonight til the end of the OBT we ll try to pex some char to see what's is up !! :)

But Even if i did not test everything first, i can say that, there is areas where mana herbs and herbs are not droppable because in H5 "retail" like the moderator said, it is not by default.

Second point, If u need mana think about useing clarity/dance of concentration/ dance of mystic, the mana custom potion which one regenerates ur mp on a duration, no more instant; Is really GOOD ( later u il use song of runewal and awesome prof..)

More u can use SE/EE/PP to get some MP back, u can also lvl up a kooka, and sometimes u can jsut sit down and replenish all your MP.. :)


Anyway i will give anothers feedback when i ve tested that.
Dont think I'm new to this game. I've created on OBT Shilien templar, Fortune seeker, Necromancer, BD and SE. Go and test yourself and I cant wait for your feedback.
I forgot to tell you. Test your chars with C grd items, not with those from GM shop. Just to see how will be on live server when you go farm/spoil inside LoA.
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: =drake= on January 14, 2015, 11:17:09 PM
So, now the mana herbs are adequate or not?
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: felo41 on January 15, 2015, 11:39:18 AM
i like the topic name
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: Oblique on January 15, 2015, 05:50:16 PM
I didnt logged yesterday to test.
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: djvancho on January 17, 2015, 12:45:23 AM
Quote from: Oblique on January 13, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
Server is hard to play with no mana herbs from monsters. If you dont want to <unbalance> PvP, dont place mana potions on server, but let mobs drop herbs of MP for a normal farm/EXP.
Daggers/Archers/Duelists and any fighter kills mages anyway so easy in few shots. Mages are for farming and that is slow/hard to make without enough MP.
there are kockaburas bufalo for mp heal buff
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: Helbinek on January 20, 2015, 05:27:37 PM
pls no mp pots and herbs i will play EE and if u add it i will have no job :(
Title: Re: Hard with no MP
Post by: Kinder-Surprise on January 20, 2015, 09:00:06 PM
Quote from: Helbinek on January 20, 2015, 05:27:37 PM
pls no mp pots and herbs i will play EE and if u add it i will have no job :(

Big LOL bro', you may play EE and play with ppl who need you, but i can easily just say:

plz put pots and herbs coz i will play sph and i don"t know any EE on the EARTH i won"t be able to be effective ...


Plus pots are disabled and mana pot (custom) take time to replenish and herbs are implanted but not by default.. :)