Hello. I come here with this post may too early from the start, but Titan is a fail, a hedgehog on the grid will not 3-4k people it will never be a game now barely 500 people max.
Perhaps that is why Titan servers no longer arise, people no longer have the time to play and it's still on this type of hardcore.
That's why I think it would be better to make a new server for some time but MID rate, with gmshopem etc.
With the experience of the local administration can rate the MID good start.
Of course, suggest even more to invest in this type of advertisement server, it is known that the network servers Dragon-Network is known for many players a but you can not rely only on the old players DN.
Please, you of speech what do you think and how you think came this server.
I started also here with big expectations :) All server features demand you - the player - to stay more and more and more in game/online. Want to buy/sell items? Keep your char logged. Want to sell buffs ? Keep your char logged. Community board is not working also. You don't have mana potions or full buffs to farm faster mobs, again a longer time required to collect mats/recipes/adena.
This type of setup will push away players that don't have a lot of time to play. You might reply: we don't care. I've been playing with this type of people which don't have a lot of time for game, but they still like L2 with big and friendly community. They have a particularity = they have jobs and money. Guess what ? They donate for game stuff. A lot. On my last 3 servers, few members of CP donated like 40-50 euro, each day in a month. That is between 1200 - 1500 euro/month from 1 player. You might ask why they did that ? To buy bless enchants for weapons/armors from other players because they like to enchant their items to +10 or more. They didn't played olympiad or sieges, neither were top PvP players, just like to have glowing weapons.
Of course, that was based on the fact that real farmers of the server could provide bless scrolls/items on auction everyday.
So, to cut to the chase my point, that shall be the actual setup of server: farmable by farmers who can fill the market with items and attract the big mass of players and that will bring also donators who will donate for adena to buy stuff because they don't have time to farm.
At the moment Titan is not an easy or farmable server. This keep a bigger community away and as result casual players which are donators won't join eighter a low populated server :)
Quote from: Oblique on February 01, 2015, 11:55:01 AM
I started also here with big expectations :) All server features demand you - the player - to stay more and more and more in game/online. Want to buy/sell items? Keep your char logged. Want to sell buffs ? Keep your char logged. Community board is not working also. You don't have mana potions or full buffs to farm faster mobs, again a longer time required to collect mats/recipes/adena.
This type of setup will push away players that don't have a lot of time to play. You might reply: we don't care. I've been playing with this type of people which don't have a lot of time for game, but they still like L2 with big and friendly community. They have a particularity = they have jobs and money. Guess what ? They donate for game stuff. A lot. On my last 3 servers, few members of CP donated like 40-50 euro, each day in a month. That is between 1200 - 1500 euro/month from 1 player. You might ask why they did that ? To buy bless enchants for weapons/armors from other players because they like to enchant their items to +10 or more. They didn't played olympiad or sieges, neither were top PvP players, just like to have glowing weapons.
Of course, that was based on the fact that real farmers of the server could provide bless scrolls/items on auction everyday.
So, to cut to the chase my point, that shall be the actual setup of server: farmable by farmers who can fill the market with items and attract the big mass of players and that will bring also donators who will donate for adena to buy stuff because they don't have time to farm.
At the moment Titan is not an easy or farmable server. This keep a bigger community away and as result casual players which are donators won't join eighter a low populated server :)
If leveling is easy and farming is hard thats good. Hardcore farmers can sell powerlevel and good gear while casuals can donate and get everything easy as well. Everything seems balanced to me.
DONATE is a problem other servers, DN can do without subsidies MID rate and the game will be a good and enjoyable.
Quote from: HiddenEnemy on February 01, 2015, 12:12:45 PM
DONATE is a problem other servers, DN can do without subsidies MID rate and the game will be a good and enjoyable.
What is wrong with donate now?
This just donate now is very good, I mean that it was not like he wrote "Oblique" that you can buy enchants etc. But now here we are talking about MID rate.
Quote from: HiddenEnemy on February 01, 2015, 01:14:38 PM
This just donate now is very good, I mean that it was not like he wrote "Oblique" that you can buy enchants etc. But now here we are talking about MID rate.
But you do know that x10 exp is actually a high rate server? On top of that, vitality system boosts it a lot.
How about we add +30-50% exp runes (even i think its not really needed) to the donation as well?
I do not think you know what I mean.
Imo you should open new h5 substack server instead common h5 x10-15 server. People have tone of servers like that and dont have something different, like h5 substack midrate like it was an old Dragon. So you maybe ask why not to join an old Dragon substack.. no.. cause its too old for new players. That's my opinion
hello, ;)
Could you tell me which server is new and which is old - dead? Tarantula or Titan? Both have same online...
Quote from: Magnetio on February 01, 2015, 05:03:04 PM
hello, ;)
Could you tell me which server is new and which is old - dead? Tarantula or Titan? Both have same online...
Hello Tarantula is 1 year old (Interlude/Substack),Titan is NEW (H5/Retail) few days old. Both servers are alive and up. When they are dead you wont be able to log on them.
I hope its clearer now.
Quote from: Stormery on February 01, 2015, 04:58:33 PM
Imo you should open new h5 substack server instead common h5 x10-15 server. People have tone of servers like that and dont have something different, like h5 substack midrate like it was an old Dragon. So you maybe ask why not to join an old Dragon substack.. no.. cause its too old for new players. That's my opinion
+1 for this guy retail and pvp servers open every mounth but substack servers dont have
in dragon is enouth to have 1 new substack server no mater what chronicle wipe titan and make it substack
or make hellriser hellbound substack . i garantee will be full of people .people in dragon dont have for what to fight all have 4 5 full boss jewels sets from friends and old chars dragon community need new stimulation to play for.
you open titan too fast people need to know about this server 3 4 weaks before start to have time for clan organization .
Quote from: djvancho on February 01, 2015, 09:24:38 PM
you open titan too fast people need to know about this server 3 4 weaks before start to have time for clan organization .
LMAO.
Quote from: djvancho on February 01, 2015, 09:24:38 PM
you open titan too fast people need to know about this server 3 4 weaks before start to have time for clan organization .
Now that's new, someone complains about DN doing something too fast lol.
Quote from: Voodoo on February 01, 2015, 10:11:50 PM
Now that's new, someone complains about DN doing something too fast lol.
tell me 1 server witch open after 3 days after anounse there must be 3 4 weeks advertising for grand opening no after 2 weeks beta tests opens after 3 days rates,drops,spoil,quest,xp,donations mus be known 1 mounth before not showed 3 days before start
we play at low rate 3 x h5 retail server with ofi files with 11 k online people (may be real 4 5 k) but we know everithung about server 1 or 2 mounts before rate,drop,spoil everything and we desided to go there after long discution but for titan everithing was secrtet only rate
most important thing when open new server is advertising people must know about that
second reason to have people in server is people to want this server
thats why i thing gms need first to ask community what server want
after that to open it
And where i can replenish my vit?was a npc for that...there is not..i beleave you guys removed that for people to donate...sorry but this is my ideea
Quote from: djvancho on February 01, 2015, 10:57:00 PM
tell me 1 server witch open after 3 days after anounse there must be 3 4 weeks advertising for grand opening no after 2 weeks beta tests opens after 3 days rates,drops,spoil,quest,xp,donations mus be known 1 mounth before not showed 3 days before start
We announced Titan server around 2 months ago,2 weeks before the opening we run an Open beta whit exactly same rate and thing like it is now.I dont even know what you are talking about
Quote from: f3nom3n on February 01, 2015, 11:09:03 PM
And where i can replenish my vit?was a npc for that...there is not..i beleave you guys removed that for people to donate...sorry but this is my ideea
We did not remove anything,If something is missing please give me a link about it
Quote from: djvancho on February 01, 2015, 10:57:00 PM
tell me 1 server witch open after 3 days after anounse there must be 3 4 weeks advertising for grand opening no after 2 weeks beta tests opens after 3 days rates,drops,spoil,quest,xp,donations mus be known 1 mounth before not showed 3 days before start
I wonder why are you still playing here, 99% of your posts are retarded ideas or crying.
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on February 01, 2015, 11:20:57 PM
We announced Titan server around 2 months ago,2 weeks before the opening we run an Open beta whit exactly same rate and thing like it is now.I dont even know what you are talking about
You announced Titan server, but said nothing of opening date. The date was set like 5 days before the actual opening? And official (because post in some random thread in General forum doesn't count) announcement was 3 days before the opening. How would you explain low online if not by lack of advertising the server with an opening date (not the server which will open god knows when)? There was also too little info about the dates on the main site - not everyone checks forum.
I'm not saying that everything should be set 3-4 weeks before the opening, but ~2 weeks should do.
Quote from: Voodoo on February 01, 2015, 11:22:38 PM
I wonder why are you still playing here, 99% of your posts are retarded ideas or crying.
who cry 300 online you think is ok for new server?before opening tarantula in forum was 1k + online
What I miss:
-offline shopping;
-offline buffers;
-a better auto-route on /follow (my chars gets stuck easy);
-simple mana potions;
-community-board;
Also I noticed a delay on mail system, like 30 sec - 1 min.
Quote from: djvancho on February 01, 2015, 11:37:14 PM
who cry 300 online you think is ok for new server?before opening tarantula in forum was 1k + online
And you think I care? I don't even play here, I just wanted to point out that you are and idiot. ;D
Quote from: Oblique on February 01, 2015, 11:43:15 PM
Also I noticed a delay on mail system, like 30 sec - 1 min.
I don't think that's a problem. I had delayed mail even on official.
Quote from: Oblique on February 01, 2015, 11:43:15 PM
What I miss:
-offline shopping;
-offline buffers;
-a better auto-route on /follow (my chars gets stuck easy);
-simple mana potions;
-community-board;
Also I noticed a delay on mail system, like 30 sec - 1 min.
offline -coins
offline-adena
paypal offline? xD
Im Very disapointed in Titan, I have played Dragon since C3 probably around 10 years on & off, with 28 full subs with retails done on most, my son & I donated many times over the years, latley we played many hi5 servers buy all die, so I had a friend on Tarantula so I thought would give it a go, I didnt realize how dead it was, my son wasted 35 eu in donations, so I waited for Titan hoping for better things, this server is the worse of them all, no one on, all you guys are after is money, all servers you can set up shops for free, at least if you can set up a shop offline you can try & make some money, I always sell mats to help me start off, but on here I have to pay 1 DC for a bloody offline scroll, what a rip off, people will donate if there enjoying the game & getting somewhere, but we couldnt even start of like we normally do without donating, shame on you Drake, your getting to greedy, we are now on a new server & my son has donated twice in a couple of days as we are getting somewhere & enjoying it.
No one likes to feel like there being ripped off, if people enjoy a normal game without getting ripped off for normal parts of the game, they will enjoy the game & donate over & over, this has left such a bad taste in my mouth im not going to even think about trying any of your future servers as I know I will get ripped off.
Quote from: Blackcobra on February 08, 2015, 05:38:44 AM
Im Very disapointed in Titan, I have played Dragon since C3 probably around 10 years on & off, with 28 full subs with retails done on most, my son & I donated many times over the years, latley we played many hi5 servers buy all die, so I had a friend on Tarantula so I thought would give it a go, I didnt realize how dead it was, my son wasted 35 eu in donations, so I waited for Titan hoping for better things, this server is the worse of them all, no one on, all you guys are after is money, all servers you can set up shops for free, at least if you can set up a shop offline you can try & make some money, I always sell mats to help me start off, but on here I have to pay 1 DC for a bloody offline scroll, what a rip off, people will donate if there enjoying the game & getting somewhere, but we couldnt even start of like we normally do without donating, shame on you Drake, your getting to greedy, we are now on a new server & my son has donated twice in a couple of days as we are getting somewhere & enjoying it.
No one likes to feel like there being ripped off, if people enjoy a normal game without getting ripped off for normal parts of the game, they will enjoy the game & donate over & over, this has left such a bad taste in my mouth im not going to even think about trying any of your future servers as I know I will get ripped off.
Hello,
If you think that 1dc (1 euro) is a "ripoff" for the permanent item and the item that is once in a life purchase , then i guess we think differently.
On top of that, if you look at our donation list, you really can say we are greedy and chasing money?
In case you didnt saw the list we have:
- hats
- aghations
- LS
- quest items & misc
End;
Which of theese looks greedy?
on other h5 servers you can buy ofline shop skroll for adena in luxury
I do believe very much in donation system, without it we don't have the game, but I do get annoyed when we pay for normal items in the game that every other server I have played does not charge for, its part of the normal game, like me for instance my game play is to spoil mats & sell them to make enough adena to get me going, I also like to set up shops to buy items I need, I often set up many shops to sell stuff, when I get in the flow of the game its nothing for me to have 6 or 7 shops going with buying & selling, I cant just leave my computer on here, the last month been lots storms every day, I have no objections for donations, like I said there be no game without it, my sons & I have often donated towards games we played, I just object to items that are normally free in game to be charged for & without the item to use I cant play my normal game unless I donate, the game should be free totally like every other server & then if we want we donate for extras, like mounts, hats, as we all like to show off or look good, I played Tera for quite some time inbetween with my son, we donated on average $30 eu per month some times more, the new server my son & I just joined, my son donated twice so far in the last week, the reason I come on here is that I felt some loyalty to Dragon as I have played for 10 years with my 2 sons, im age 61 so im no kid winging, the point im making is if Im fairly loyal & wanted to play with you guys first, so I was trying to point out what I think is unfair & maybe others do also, that way you might not lose other loyal players like my sons & me, the server were on now has a mount lion, wich is only donation, why dont you guys put special items that donation is the only way to get, in Tera there always bringing out new mounts & weapon skins to increase donations, especially swimsuits, we have donated for many items just to make our chars look good & different to others, anyway this just a suggestion.
1 dc for an offline shop, is an good solution to support our sever, instead of billion offline shops what's increase fake population.
Quote from: ozyn on February 09, 2015, 05:04:16 PM
1 dc for an offline shop, is an good solution to support our sever, instead of billion offline shops what's increase fake population.
I think its better to have some offline shops, now there is no one selling stuff, i never saw more then 8-10 shops in giran.
Server has 9 days, why do you expect to have 100+ shops in Giran?
I think most of DC's existing on server where bought for adena to be payout to paypal and not used for off-shoping scroll purchase.
Off shop scroll and EXP runes:
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,286161.msg2470447.html#new
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 09, 2015, 06:41:21 PM
Off shop scroll and EXP runes:
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,286161.msg2470447.html#new
they qq so hard that u cant hold it ;]
So this will be next custom server?
After reviewing situation on the server since the opening we have to notice few things, and plan its future.
Unless server grows bigger,attract more players or current players start donating (something?) that would be enough to pay servers bills, we will be forced to close server and merge current (active) players (and all their items) to Dragon H5 server.
Reasons are simply economical, we did everything to provide you good service,bugless/retail files, features and the support but nowadays ratrace where players 1st check l2online.info rather then picking servers because its features is a dead end of us.
We will continue fixing remaining bugs and observe the situation, once a month closes to its end we will decide that to do next.
Since im fully recovered after health issues, i will be answering to all unanswered questions and check remaining bugs to fix them with my team.
Quote from: FANTA on February 09, 2015, 06:51:37 PM
So this will be next custom server?
What are you talking about now? Custom is what exactly???
Offshop scroll price changed from 1 dc to adena (as community requested)
Added EXP runes to the donny (as community requested)
Both items EXIST as retail items on official servers.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 09, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
...we will be forced to close server and merge current (active) players (and all their items) to Dragon H5 server...
fair merge, no doubts xD after merge titan players if they dont have equiped/lvled chars on dragon can only suck ballz but who cares ofc xD
with such merge u will only lose new players even if they r not many, nothing else.
Lost will to lvl my chars rly. Who cares about online, this 300-400 ppl having fun exping and farming.
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 09, 2015, 07:06:55 PM
fair merge, no doubts xD after merge titan players if they dont have equiped/lvled chars on dragon can only suck ballz but who cares ofc xD
with such merge u will only lose new players even if they r not many, nothing else.
You dont really know the plan , IF merge happens.
Quote from: MegaZord on February 09, 2015, 07:08:46 PM
Lost will to lvl my chars rly. Who cares about online, this 300-400 ppl having fun exping and farming.
Thats all nice Zord, but no1 donates, or current donations cant even cover 1/16 of the servers cost.And right now we dont have money from other servers to cover up titan, like Tara covered dragon.
I repeat once again, we are not doing servers for money, but some minimum of costs has to be covered on monthly basis.
We shell see how it goes.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 09, 2015, 07:11:10 PM
You dont really know the plan , IF merge happens.
gz, u have some plan but i doubt my char from titan will be better equiped/lvled/enchanted than my current char on dragon. so now is question where is sense continue work on char here?
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 09, 2015, 07:11:10 PM
You dont really know the plan , IF merge happens.Thats all nice Zord, but no1 donates, or current donations cant even cover 1/16 of the servers cost.And right now we dont have money from other servers to cover up titan, like Tara covered dragon.
I repeat once again, we are not doing servers for money, but some minimum of costs has to be covered on monthly basis.
We shell see how it goes.
Lost wish to play at this *******-Network.
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 09, 2015, 07:24:16 PM
gz, u have some plan but i doubt my char from titan will be better equiped/lvled/enchanted than my current char on dragon. so now is question where is sense continue work on char here?
It is really a surprise for me you are actually playing here. Anyway yes there is sense to continue work on your char here, because we still dont know what will happen. Either way current players progress wont be lost.
Quote from: ozyn on February 09, 2015, 07:27:10 PM
Lost wish to play at this *******-Network.
I find it rather fair to tell to players current situation, instead of hiding things and then 1 day simply go offline and AFK, dont you agree? As i said, if more players will start donating situation can be better, i just said that current one isnt bright. No need to insult nor flame, since its not the network. Network is good and stable, but its the players who are spoiled and changed to the bone.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 09, 2015, 07:28:05 PM
It is really a surprise for me you are actually playing here. Anyway yes there is sense to continue work on your char here, because we still dont know what will happen. Either way current players progress wont be lost.
In GoD We TRUST!
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 09, 2015, 07:28:05 PM
It is really a surprise for me you are actually playing here. Anyway yes there is sense to continue work on your char here, because we still dont know what will happen. Either way current players progress wont be lost.
I find it rather fair to tell to players current situation, instead of hiding things and then 1 day simply go offline and AFK, dont you agree? As i said, if more players will start donating situation can be better, i just said that current one isnt bright. No need to insult nor flame, since its not the network. Network is good and stable, but its the players who are spoiled and changed to the bone.
I'm glad of your honestly, now i think with present situation you may close this server asap.
Maybe online is coz of too small advertise?
this annoucment such helped server online :D. Kurwa n/c
Dragon donators covered all retarded new idea of track and new team. I dont see any advertisement of new server in Dragon-Network, so now dont cry about online. 0 activity on FB. First maybe make something to get new ppl on Tarantula, Dragon and Titan. Make like other server... put bot in Giran on other server to spam adres of site. Make some advertising about Dragon, Tarantula and Titan on any forum,site L2 etc.
And give to Dragon 1-2 GMs more... 1 Event Maker and 1 Tester, Fixer etc. etc.
Bcuz now we have only Glasy for help ppl and buying "change subclass" for coins and ^flashhunter^ for looking for bots in loa.
First of all, those are 2 different servers and teams.Both of them are on dragon forum but they aren't the same.Track has his team and glasy to,so ask him about new dx gms (2 not enought?)
btw.
What are you think "dragon donators" paid titan or tarantula servers?
Show me some1 who donated to glasy for new phone or tablet..
Want to know glasy why dont care about server? Because its not good business
:(
Quote from: Kaelthas on February 10, 2015, 06:43:48 AM
Dragon donators covered all retarded new idea of track and new team. I dont see any advertisement of new server in Dragon-Network, so now dont cry about online. 0 activity on FB. First maybe make something to get new ppl on Tarantula, Dragon and Titan. Make like other server... put bot in Giran on other server to spam adres of site. Make some advertising about Dragon, Tarantula and Titan on any forum,site L2 etc.
And give to Dragon 1-2 GMs more... 1 Event Maker and 1 Tester, Fixer etc. etc.
Bcuz now we have only Glasy for help ppl and buying "change subclass" for coins and ^flashhunter^ for looking for bots in loa.
Hello,
Thank you for the compliments, it tells more about author itself. Now lets go straight to the facts:
- No advert. on home page, uhm, when was the last time you have visited www.dragon-network.net ?
Maybe you should do it.
- No advert. nor activity on Dragon-Networks facebook page? When it was the last time you visited our official and ONLY available fb page? https://www.facebook.com/dnetlineage2
Clearly 8,600 people has seen it, what about you?
- More about advert. We have started these projects months ago, announced all in the beggining of the Dec. , we made youtube videos, promoted all on FB, posted on PMfun forum, advertised on fb,etc..
If you expect me to log on other servers and spam about server in Giran , then im afraid you have chosen the wrong server. I prefer no players, than using such cheap ways , which by the way, wont give you players.
As i said in previous post, nowadays its totally irrelevant who opens new server, what are the features and chronicle, stability and credibility of the owners. What matters is "HOW MANY ONLINE", its a rat race. Thats why server owners are opening/closing servers each 3 months when the race ends.Degeneration of l2 community is on its highest level.
Maybe no donation as you say, but i doubt no one donate. Anyway server is up not even 2 weeks, ppl exp, farm etc. Donation could happen later when s grade items apear. But this "annoucment" foked this server for real. From online 300-400, which could rise when more ppl hear about it. Now its less then 100. If server situation was that bad, why did you bother open this titan anyway. For check online in 1 week and close it?
Quote from: MegaZord on February 10, 2015, 01:56:31 PM
Maybe no donation as you say, but i doubt no one donate. Anyway server is up not even 2 weeks, ppl exp, farm etc. Donation could happen later when s grade items apear. But this "annoucment" foked this server for real. From online 300-400, which could rise when more ppl hear about it. Now its less then 100. If server situation was that bad, why did you bother open this titan anyway. For check online in 1 week and close it?
Sadly online number will not increase, current expirience in l2 claims my statement. We are currently not in the psition to struggle for it nor we have money for it. It already costed fortune. But well, shit happens, we move on. Thats life.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 10, 2015, 02:24:31 PM
Sadly online number will not increase, current expirience in l2 claims my statement. We are currently not in the psition to struggle for it nor we have money for it. It already costed fortune. But well, shit happens, we move on. Thats life.
So the server is gonna merge with dragon? And what will happen to the new hellbound server? im just looking for a stable retail server.
Quote from: dabird1980 on February 10, 2015, 03:15:31 PM
So the server is gonna merge with dragon? And what will happen to the new hellbound server? im just looking for a stable retail server.
OBT will start and we shell see after that stage is passed.
Track has right about degeneration of l2 community. I have no idea if he could do more for this server but even not playing here i know that he does more then even l2off admins. Mb only dance naked near webcam :D
In my opinion only old l2 games are bringing some stability on server, kids of nowadays are just jumping from one serv to another. but sadly most of us are not playing. So go back to Dnx15 and work there all togeather/ no other way.
p.s.
Viana, if you read dat, Do you start play l2 again?xD or its just a gosips.
Quote from: N!k on February 10, 2015, 04:29:20 PM
Track has right about degeneration of l2 community. I have no idea if he could do more for this server but even not playing here i know that he does more then even l2off admins. Mb only dance naked near webcam :D
In my opinion only old l2 games are bringing some stability on server, kids of nowadays are just jumping from one serv to another. but sadly most of us are not playing. So go back to Dnx15 and work there all togeather/ no other way.
p.s.
Viana, if you read dat, Do you start play l2 again?xD or its just a gosips.
Gosips,Nik,gosips only :) Im totally out of L2 since a lot,i dont even remember exactly when.
One funny thing...i was talking to Voo one day about L2 and i didnt even remember how is called exactly the darkelf archer hahahaha. This says a lot,dont u think? :P
I dont see the point of such a gossip but whatever,nothing here can surprise me anymore :P
I hope all is good with all my old enemies ;) My friends i know they are more than fine :P
Cheers
I am fine, wasting tons of time on other server. Started new project few month ago. I could say when last time you was at Dn servers. it was tarantula(Tracks previous project) i was there for a while also.
p.s.
How is possible that i am in fb group of Dn when Glasy ban me from there ?xD jeez
Quote from: N!k on February 10, 2015, 04:50:46 PM
I am fine, wasting tons of time on other server. Started new project few month ago. I could say when last time you was at Dn servers. it was tarantula(Tracks previous project) i was there for a while also.
p.s.
How is possible that i am in fb group of Dn when Glasy ban me from there ?xD jeez
That "group of dn" is not even a D of dn. Our only official fb is linked above and it is on our homepage as well.
The page you mentioned is dx group page from Dragon x15 server.
Nik is a dx traitor , knew it all along :/
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 10, 2015, 05:00:54 PM
That "group of dn" is not even a D of dn. Our only official fb is linked above and it is on our homepage as well.
The page you mentioned is dx group page from Dragon x15 server.
So maybe start advertise Dragon x15 too on official FB of Dragon-Network?
Quote from: Kaelthas on February 10, 2015, 06:50:19 PM
So maybe start advertise Dragon x15 too on official FB of Dragon-Network?
Advertise what? Is there any news i should write on it?
Hello, Track,
I have 1 simple question:
- Does this server will be merged or no?
Because atm peoples dont know play or no in this server.. so about donation is no thinkig.. If this server will be no merged then i play + donate 100%, but now i dont know play or no.. because if u merge this server no point to lvl chars..
Quote from: AukstuolisMantas on February 10, 2015, 08:09:06 PM
Hello, Track,
I have 1 simple question:
- Does this server will be merged or no?
Because atm peoples dont know play or no in this server.. so about donation is no thinkig.. If this server will be no merged then i play + donate 100%, but now i dont know play or no.. because if u merge this server no point to lvl chars..
Server WILL be merged, unless it somehow gets alive by itself. However , as i said earlier, you wont loose items/chars you farmed they will continue to live on Dragon x15 , unless we give a life to Titan and it continues as separated server.
Quote from: AukstuolisMantas on February 10, 2015, 08:09:06 PM
Hello, Track,
I have 1 simple question:
- Does this server will be merged or no?
Because atm peoples dont know play or no in this server.. so about donation is no thinkig.. If this server will be no merged then i play + donate 100%, but now i dont know play or no.. because if u merge this server no point to lvl chars..
For me the same problem, i want to play because i like the server good balance and stuff, but dont know if the server will have a long life.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 10, 2015, 08:35:05 PM
Server WILL be merged, unless it somehow gets alive by itself. However , as i said earlier, you wont loose items/chars you farmed they will continue to live on Dragon x15 , unless we give a life to Titan and it continues as separated server.
this sucks, i want to play on a good and stable retail server, just wait for 2-3 months maybe more people will join, the server is just 2 weeks old...
Quote from: dabird1980 on February 10, 2015, 08:39:16 PM
this sucks, i want to play on a good and stable retail server, just wait for 2-3 months maybe more people will join, the server is just 2 weeks old...
I really doubt it will be better, and secondly we barely got some donations to cover at least 1 more month....We can maybe try to struggle 1 more month, but im telling you now, after all the haters,trolls, and bad marketing toward us, i have low hopes.
What donation need to server can be one more month?
How is it possible that a server on dragon network get so low on population? i never saw that before.
Quote from: dabird1980 on February 10, 2015, 08:52:35 PM
How is it possible that a server on dragon network get so low on population? i never saw that before.
Its not DN, its just the Titan server. Dragon x15 is more then fine, and Tarantula will be good as well in no time.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 10, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
Advertise what? Is there any news i should write on it?
Ofc !!!
Quote from: dabird1980 on February 10, 2015, 08:52:35 PM
How is it possible that a server on dragon network get so low on population? i never saw that before.
Because there are 435234 midrate h5 servers
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 10, 2015, 08:58:31 PM
Its not DN, its just the Titan server. Dragon x15 is more then fine, and Tarantula will be good as well in no time.
track, merge titan with dragon not good idea but .... , merge not good.
Quote from: HugeTits on February 10, 2015, 10:46:42 PM
track, merge titan with dragon not good idea but .... , merge not good.
Come on there are 2 low s-grade weapons on titan, u dont need to be scared about dragon, you can afford 2 players raping u right?
Quote from: Peorexo on February 10, 2015, 11:23:33 PM
Come on there are 2 low s-grade weapons on titan, u dont need to be scared about dragon, you can afford 2 players raping u right?
;D
Quote from: dabird1980 on February 10, 2015, 08:52:35 PM
How is it possible that a server on dragon network get so low on population? i never saw that before.
dragon network players like substack server no retail like .hardstylee told you every week open new h5 15 x server with nps for buff and alt+b community teleports,auctions etc and on every hour auto events capture the flag,team vs team,korean style,tresure hunters and many more.
dragon network need new substack server H5 low rate 3x 5x max because higher rate server dies after 3 4 mounths max .sever need to be copy/paste of dragon only remove bug when sumon got erase or killed and sumoned again sumon have bufs i think this is not normal .
before 4 days started new h5 15 x server with 10 k online people but there people have good vote system they startet to vote for server before opening and they are stimulated to vote because on every vote recieve reward some atribute stone crystal or some enchant
to bring new people on dragon network need to do some things
1st is to stimulate people on dragon and tarantula to vote for server
2nd is to make 1 new substack server maded after asking dragon community what server they need
(nobody wanted to open new retail like server i think)
3th when everithing is ok on server like vitality system,vote system and everiting is tested make announsment for server opening date minimum 2 mounths before to people to have time to prepare their clans for this adventure.
4th explain rules,drop,spoil,exp rate and extras 2 mounths before no 3 days before opening
5th open beta test server 1 weak before oficial start
6th be rdy for big DDOS attacks and look for secure hoster(not like tarantula host) and i think everything will be ok after good advertizing of game sites .
Dragon Network dont need any new server now. We have here Dragon, Tarantula and Titan.
Dragon Network need:
- advertising,
- new active GMs(for fix bug and for balans some class, skill etc. for add something to increase PVP on server)on Dragon x15(and good donation offers for new commer from other server bcuz some clans wanna join Dragon again but each player must donate coins for self... better sell them pack of items and chars for "better" price). I dont have problem with Glasy but one GM it is not enough.
- Tarantula need move to HB chronicle... and get some new/old ppl again.
Quote from: djvancho on February 11, 2015, 05:09:14 AM
before 4 days started new h5 15 x server with 10 k online people but there people have good vote system they startet to vote for server before opening and they are stimulated to vote because on every vote recieve reward some atribute stone crystal or some enchant
Is very good idea!
i cant belive why you like glasys kingdom. :'( :'(
at 1 February titan has at least 80 single donation, wondering how much did you expect if does are not enough the. You guys are looking just for easy, fast money.
Quote from: ozyn on February 11, 2015, 12:20:54 PM
at 1 February titan has at least 80 single donation, wondering how much did you expect if does are not enough the. You guys are looking just for easy, fast money.
Dont state such things, because you are just talking out of your ass then. We are not looking for money at all, just an normal cycle covering expences.
Titan costed a fortune and was huge investment with 3 figures+the machine + the protection. So closing/merging titan is the last thing we want to do, but im sorry i cant stuggle in this moment.
Cut your trolling , its not a time nor the place for it.
GM killed server with his statement. GJ.
Really zero advertising and you expect money? Sad.
I was here with my 20 friends and you killed our fun wuth that statement we are on other server not dragon more raid focused and fight focued. Bye.
Quote from: daeion on February 11, 2015, 12:39:34 PM
GM killed server with his statement. GJ.
Really zero advertising and you expect money? Sad.
I was here with my 20 friends and you killed our fun wuth that statement we are on other server not dragon more raid focused and fight focued. Bye.
Hello,
I stated the reality, i didnt kill the server i offered the solution. When you say we didnt advert server, then let me remind you that we announced Titan in early december, we have advertaised it on facebook,youtube,pmfun,l2online,mass email. On top of that we used PAID marketing on top social network around the world. If 2 months isnt enough, then im sorry it will never be enough.
From the day 1 we opened server players logged just to ask me "how many online gm" ,when they got their answer 99% of them said "gg bb dead server".
As i said earlier, rat race , which i really hate and cant change. Titan wont increase in nmbers , sadly.
From our side we did everything to provide perfect server with best seen features, active staff and bugless server, but thats not what matters today. What matters today is to lie, use low tricks, fake online count ingame/forum , opening servers each 3 months (no matter you failed 100 servers before), etc..etc...
We are not this kind of admins, never was and never will be.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 11, 2015, 12:29:12 PM
Dont state such things, because you are just talking out of your ass then. We are not looking for money at all, just an normal cycle covering expences.
Titan costed a fortune and was huge investment with 3 figures+the machine + the protection. So closing/merging titan is the last thing we want to do, but im sorry i cant stuggle in this moment.
Cut your trolling , its not a time nor the place for it.
track looks like all try troll u, NO, since u made post for 2days, no1 trolled u. pharanoja? )
p. s. u can safe titan, but u need more time/work and some changes, also money. more info in pm)
Quote from: HugeTits on February 11, 2015, 12:53:25 PM
track looks like all try troll u, NO, since u made post for 2days, no1 trolled u. pharanoja? )
p. s. u can safe titan, but u need more time/work and some changes, also money. more info in pm)
Let me know then and write it to me.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 11, 2015, 12:29:12 PM
Dont state such things, because you are just talking out of your ass then. We are not looking for money at all, just an normal cycle covering expences.
Titan costed a fortune and was huge investment with 3 figures+the machine + the protection. So closing/merging titan is the last thing we want to do, but im sorry i cant stuggle in this moment.
Cut your trolling , its not a time nor the place for it.
Hold your horses cowboy, I'm not trolling, just said what the fact is. Look you guys still about to open he'll bound, if yes that enough proof for me.
Quote from: ozyn on February 11, 2015, 02:12:12 PM
Hold your horses cowboy, I'm not trolling, just said what the fact is. Look you guys still about to open he'll bound, if yes that enough proof for me.
Hellbound is announced and PLANNED same day as Titan. Same goes for Tarantulas upgrade to HB. Therefor your comment is not on place nor intention is fair.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 11, 2015, 02:19:59 PM
Hellbound is announced and PLANNED same day as Titan. Same goes for Tarantulas upgrade to HB. Therefor your comment is not on place nor intention is fair.
wish you best with your future projects.
personally i must admit that i like idea of making titan stacksub server, it would be worth a try in worst case still u can marge it with dragon
Quote from: Calisa on February 11, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
personally i must admit that i like idea of making titan stacksub server, it would be worth a try in worst case still u can marge it with dragon
yes people in dragon dont have for what to fight there oly is empty too all have ++++ sets +++wepons ++++ boss jewels sets last fun there was oly last times when i signed to oly 30 min waitning
and nothing you need to make like in official h5 server need to have 15 matches to take bogs from oly not 9 like dragon this stimulate more people to reg in oly ,and bog prices will be normal because will be 2 time harder to take bogs from oly . i like verry mutch oly system with matching with same points farmer meet farmer low chars meet low chars . if you make it on new substack server will be super i will join with my friends to have fun again .i play now on retail like 3x h5 server and is hard work to progress there and is funy.
if you can make subs to can be lvl up to 85 will be grate
Quote from: ozyn on February 11, 2015, 02:12:12 PM
Hold your horses cowboy, I'm not trolling, just said what the fact is. Look you guys still about to open he'll bound, if yes that enough proof for me.
As Track said both servers were announced and advertised the same time, you should understand also that it's not easy to manage all..
yet we were and we are still putting a lot effort to provide somewhat unique, comfortable gameplay and what we get back in return is hate on forums, trolls (not pointing at you exactly). When server started the only pms I got were 99% about online players, it matters of course .. the more the happier everyone, but it seemed ppl are only concerned about numbers.
At the end I just wanted to reply to HB thingy. Since it's long term being in closed beta, being fixed eventually, it would be a huge waste if nothing happens to that work, however right now Tarantula is in focus regarding HB.
Quote from: ^Alannah^ on February 11, 2015, 04:22:38 PM
As Track said both servers were announced and advertised the same time, you should understand also that it's not easy to manage all..
yet we were and we are still putting a lot effort to provide somewhat unique, comfortable gameplay and what we get back in return is hate on forums, trolls (not pointing at you exactly). When server started the only pms I got were 99% about online players, it matters of course .. the more the happier everyone, but it seemed ppl are only concerned about numbers.
At the end I just wanted to reply to HB thingy. Since it's long term being in closed beta, being fixed eventually, it would be a huge waste if nothing happens to that work, however right now Tarantula is in focus regarding HB.
Guys, you must undesrtand that online counter is most important in l2. Noone want to spend half a year on server exping and after that there is noone with who you can fight. What for exping then ? If there is 500 online at start...next day will be 400, and day after 300, thats normal, this will stabilize somewhow in 250 online lets say. Its too low for lineage to have fun. If serwer would start with 2k ppl, then it would stabilize with 1500 and that preety good to play. More ppl -> better market -> more stuff -> cheaper -> easier. More ppl...more donate... but dont ask me how to gain more ppl because i dont know :)
Quote from: ^Alannah^ on February 11, 2015, 04:22:38 PM
As Track said both servers were announced and advertised the same time, you should understand also that it's not easy to manage all..
yet we were and we are still putting a lot effort to provide somewhat unique, comfortable gameplay and what we get back in return is hate on forums, trolls (not pointing at you exactly). When server started the only pms I got were 99% about online players, it matters of course .. the more the happier everyone, but it seemed ppl are only concerned about numbers.
At the end I just wanted to reply to HB thingy. Since it's long term being in closed beta, being fixed eventually, it would be a huge waste if nothing happens to that work, however right now Tarantula is in focus regarding HB.
u guys said titan is about to close, cause no donation what you expect. wondering how much u exepct after 1 week.
Quote from: ozyn on February 11, 2015, 05:12:55 PM
u guys said titan is about to close, cause no donation what you expect. wondering how much u exepct after 1 week.
Ozyn, its more about players online amount which doesnt move up than donations itself. We can even extend titan for few months , but im telling you now that it wont change much since we are able to check and cross data.
1st of all I never logged Titan so I'll not comment of server itself. I'd like to point out some other things that got my attention:
-making huge buzz before you were ready to launch server, and then losing potential players attention by postponing OBT launch for weeks. It is very unprofessional. Sadly, that kind of failures of meeting deadlines is not exception here, and this time was no different. To be precise, it is not bad to promote server launch month before, it is bad to give false impression that server will start soon and later postponing it for few weeks.
-overestimating peoples interest in next (maybe better in terms of bugfixes, solutions etc) h5 retail type server. You already have one h5 server, with let's say, acceptable online. Nothing to share on two servers though.
-unnecessary statements about Titan donations, what were you thinking? that you will motivate people for being more active and donating after such statement? People got scared that their time on farm, their donations will be lost, cause you will close server. You wanted to close server? If yes, just close it before saying anything about it, merge it with dragon or tarantula, save cash. Don't spread panic.
-loosing resources on fail projects. I wish you best Track with Hellraiser, but for me it looks like it will be same situation like with Titan. You and your team are wasting time and money on it. You'd better do something with Tarantula and Dragon (here I've sent like 20 ideas public for improvements, other 20-something to other GMs, answers are always like: "cool, but we need wait Drake, Drake's busy, maybe in few months").
-lack of constant advertisement. You claim that voting system is exploit-friendly, you tested it before here that you are that sure? Or you just have no idea how to implement it? Are you advertising hellraiser or you expect that people remember about it?
MORE GENERAL PROBLEMS:
-"waves of hate" on Dragon in time before launching Titan (also hate on other GM). You don't need to like each other, you don't need to have good PERSONAL opinion about Dragon but you can't publicity criticize other GMs or their work. IT IS TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL.
-expecting donations from servers where you don't put your interest in. I saw complains about Dragon donations going low, but what stuff did for this players recently? We ask for some new stuffs for months. Even some PVP masks would give some fun for a while which is not such a big deal for developers like opening two new servers.
-expecting great success on new servers and forgetting about older ones. First things first. Make sure that Dragon and Tarantula are fine, then work on other projects. Unsatisfied players give you bad advertisement, you need to understand it before you will success with new projects.
Of course I know that you claim that you have nothing to do with Dragon, we have other GM etc. but face it, you are still listed there as GM, some people believed that you actually can do something, and most important, you are a part of Dragon-Network staff, which in general is responsible for all servers. So maybe close this Titan, move players to Dragon, upgrade their eq so they can have any chance to continue their play, focus more on old servers, ask someone for help with marketing stuff, advertise, ask players for improvement ideas, analyse, implement, enjoy donations and satisfaction for good work. Cheers.
wow. +.
Right, also starting such project without being able to cover the expenses for a month or two is pretty suicidal and now that titan is not listed on l2online wont help anything, not to mention nowhere is a link to be found to vote for it (except for dn on l2topzone).
delete all servers and open 1 new h5 substack server 3 x 5 x rate named Reborn or Resurection :)
Nice post Lunar. I couldnt write it better :D
Lunar, i did read your post and you already know my opinion about it. Also i tend not to create big posts in this very moment.
Well said and we agreed on several points.
Quote from: djvancho on February 11, 2015, 11:27:18 PM
delete all servers and open 1 new h5 substack server 3 x 5 x rate named Reborn or Resurection :)
Delete your forum account and stop posing your shit ideas here. Noone cares about your lol clan same like noone cares about you. Just take ur dear friends and keep farming/quitting another servers. In my opinion your "amazing" clan which u mention in every second post is good only in no lifing, taking advantage of lvl and equip difference in early server stages and when enemies catch up u quit claiming that u waited too long for others.
If someday u grow some ballz feel free to join one of existing servers, catch up with rest and pvp there.
Quote from: djvancho on February 11, 2015, 11:27:18 PM
delete all servers and open 1 new h5 substack server 3 x 5 x rate named Reborn or Resurection :)
this is joke ;) we are just group of friends we met for first time at infinity times before people have a grade sets my clan lider craft there first majestic set on server
When FBI stop dragon network we started to play on many servers like supreme,abyss,celes,frinezza,l2crazy,rpg and many more .we just have good team play and organization and people like it on tarantula and every body wanted to join our clan.only we had 2 castles 2 mounths
Quote from: djvancho on February 12, 2015, 10:53:50 AM
this is joke ;) we are just group of friends we met for first time at infinity times before people have a grade sets my clan lider craft there first majestic set on server
When FBI stop dragon network we started to play on many servers like supreme,abyss,celes,frinezza,l2crazy,rpg and many more .we just have good team play and organization and people like it on tarantula and every body wanted to join our clan.only we had 2 castles 2 mounths
lawl.
Now that's some story, can we touch you and feel that awesomeness?
ps. are you this the best ever pp/wk hero from dragon?
Quote from: Blizzer on February 13, 2015, 07:14:31 PM
Now that's some story, can we touch you and feel that awesomeness?
ps. are you this the best ever pp/wk hero from dragon?
like our most complete tard archer
Quote from: Blizzer on February 13, 2015, 07:14:31 PM
Now that's some story, can we touch you and feel that awesomeness?
ps. are you this the best ever pp/wk hero from dragon?
yes i am i dont remember your last win against me on oly
:D
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Hahaha wpierdol kurwa mac !
Quote from: felo41 on February 14, 2015, 10:08:35 PM
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b1tch it should be me who will post it ! D:
Quote from: felo41 on February 14, 2015, 10:08:35 PM
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Hahaha, you found djvancho?
Quote from: felo41 on February 14, 2015, 10:08:35 PM
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Quote from: N!k on February 15, 2015, 05:32:27 AM
b1tch it should be me who will post it ! D:
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This suits better dafaq!
Titan increased in numbers btw...
Too bad we cant check that XD
Quote from: MegaZord on February 18, 2015, 09:50:54 PM
Too bad we cant check that XD
i have no reason to lie, however i really believe that L2 would be much better if there wasnt those "online counters". Players would join because of trust in Network and because its features.
Think few years ago how nice it was, eh.......
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 18, 2015, 09:53:21 PM
i have no reason to lie, however i really believe that L2 would be much better if there wasnt those "online counters". Players would join because of trust in Network and because its features.
Think few years ago how nice it was, eh.......
u just stucked in those years, that's why it's looks like that.