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Title: Focus atack
Post by: Braskah on October 04, 2015, 12:48:14 AM
Hi , I re open a postabout warlord skill  focus atack , it's actually working on pole and bow.
But it's working on others weapon that's a little unfair. archer/wl get a bonus , but nothing for other's combo?

opinion please..Thanks

Braskah
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: mruwqa on October 04, 2015, 11:37:43 AM
+  for sword 10% bonus      - for dagger bonus, want TH wih dps take glad, want cc bot  make WL :)
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Braskah on October 04, 2015, 05:59:29 PM
Up
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on October 05, 2015, 12:28:13 PM
We shell check this matter
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: ^Evacuate^ on October 05, 2015, 12:48:35 PM
Bonus will be added to sword aswell,not dagger
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: papasmerf24 on October 05, 2015, 03:35:00 PM
hello guyz in my opinion dagger should have some bonus from focus atack  not the full but like 5-10% too  why focus attack have full bonus with bow?
So.  He/Wl have damage+cc but TH/WL have only cc? it sounds little unfare for me. I agree not to make it fully bonus but 10% will be fine i  think
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Peorexo on October 05, 2015, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: papasmerf24 on October 05, 2015, 03:35:00 PM
hello guyz in my opinion dagger should have some bonus from focus atack  not the full but like 5-10% too  why focus attack have full bonus with bow?
So.  He/Wl have damage+cc but TH/WL have only cc? it sounds little unfare for me. I agree not to make it fully bonus but 10% will be fine i  think
This full focus attack effect on bow is retarded as far as i remember it gave +30% crit damage, and duelist spirit for example at +30! gives only 25% pvp dmg. Crit dmg != pvp dmg, but gaining so high power together with high resistances and survivability for free basicly is too much imo. Daggers could get some 10% bonus but without it they are good as well, WL gives enough for dagger
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: qash on October 05, 2015, 07:07:38 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 05, 2015, 04:24:03 PM
This full focus attack effect on bow is retarded as far as i remember it gave +30% crit damage, and duelist spirit for example at +30! gives only 25% pvp dmg. Crit dmg != pvp dmg, but gaining so high power together with high resistances and survivability for free basicly is too much imo. Daggers could get some 10% bonus but without it they are good as well, WL gives enough for dagger

Focus attack gives +20% crt.dmg on retail but on this server u have only +10%crt.dmg bonus.
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Peorexo on October 05, 2015, 07:14:21 PM
Quote from: qash on October 05, 2015, 07:07:38 PM
Focus attack gives +20% crt.dmg on retail but on this server u have only +10%crt.dmg bonus.
https://l2wiki.com/Focus_Attack_-_Warlord
30% on max level. Not sure if its already on HB but the earliest files i could dig was showing gracia1 30% bonus.
And THAT is huge.
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Alannah on October 05, 2015, 07:56:39 PM
Quote from: qash on October 05, 2015, 07:07:38 PM
Focus attack gives +20% crt.dmg on retail but on this server u have only +10%crt.dmg bonus.

wrong, it gives 30% and it's also giving here 30%

Quoteeffect = {{p_physical_polarm_target_single};{p_hit;{pole};6;diff};{p_critical_damage;{pole;bow;crossbow};30;per}}
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: bogus on October 05, 2015, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: ^Alannah^ on October 05, 2015, 07:56:39 PM
wrong, it gives 30% and it's also giving here 30%

So if its true in imo it will be a rly nice boost on archer. So why you dont wanna give just something 10% on daggers? Its a little unfair...With all weapons this skill work just with dagger not...it not a sense
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Whaouu on October 05, 2015, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 05, 2015, 07:14:21 PM
https://l2wiki.com/Focus_Attack_-_Warlord
30% on max level. Not sure if its already on HB but the earliest files i could dig was showing gracia1 30% bonus.
And THAT is huge.

Scared for you mage team?
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Alannah on October 05, 2015, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: bogus on October 05, 2015, 09:03:55 PM
So if its true in imo it will be a rly nice boost on archer. So why you dont wanna give just something 10% on daggers? Its a little unfair...With all weapons this skill work just with dagger not...it not a sense

main problem is still end game tank/daggers so i doubt we will even boost daggers more
but don't discuss these with me, im just doing what im asked to
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: bogus on October 06, 2015, 07:05:52 AM
Quote from: ^Alannah^ on October 05, 2015, 09:30:43 PM
main problem is still end game tank/daggers so i doubt we will even boost daggers more
but don't discuss these with me, im just doing what im asked to

I understand what you mean but i am sure, some people if know about this skill (it doesnt work with dagger) probably they will make PAL/TH no WL/TH
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: NBD on October 06, 2015, 07:34:19 AM
Quote from: ^Alannah^ on October 05, 2015, 09:30:43 PM
main problem is still end game tank/daggers so i doubt we will even boost daggers more
but don't discuss these with me, im just doing what im asked to

Makes no sense, why compare the 'overpowered' dagger/tank with dagger/warlord?. You should give atleast some boost to dagger while using focus attack (less then using pole ofcourse).
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: SpoilerMan on October 06, 2015, 08:01:39 AM
Quote from: NBD on October 06, 2015, 07:34:19 AM
Makes no sense, why compare the 'overpowered' dagger/tank with dagger/warlord?. You should give atleast some boost to dagger while using focus attack (less then using pole ofcourse).


I agree with a friend, dagger+tank it is stronger than dagger+warlord, so why not add extra bonus for him?
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: stanko on October 06, 2015, 09:28:09 AM
Quote from: Whaouu on October 05, 2015, 09:11:05 PM
Scared for you mage team?
if u joined beta u would know what terror we caused with daggers and wouldnt make such sad assumptions xD
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: mruwqa on October 06, 2015, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: stanko on October 06, 2015, 09:28:09 AM
if u joined beta u would know what terror we caused with daggers and wouldnt make such sad assumptions xD
sure with +20eq +30skills vs casual players mostly w/o even atri :)
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: reddragonjr on October 10, 2015, 01:45:01 AM
Dunno what you guys talk / tested about focus attack...But on beta th/gl - he/gl was 10x better at dealing dmg than th/wl - he/wl... duelist spirit > focus attack...on beta, on live no clue...
I'm fkin confused now on live is it different...
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Peorexo on October 10, 2015, 01:52:04 AM
Quote from: reddragonjr on October 10, 2015, 01:45:01 AM
Dunno what you guys talk / tested about focus attack...But on beta th/gl - he/gl was 10x better at dealing dmg than th/wl - he/wl... duelist spirit > focus attack...on beta, on live no clue...
I'm fkin confused now on live is it different...
they added FULL focus attack on bow LOL. Now its retarded to go even for duelist (supposed max dmg dealer) when WL do the same (diff +/- 3% i would say on +30 glad) and have more HP + spammable regen skills nad crowd control...
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: reddragonjr on October 10, 2015, 02:44:07 AM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 10, 2015, 01:52:04 AM
they added FULL focus attack on bow LOL. Now its retarded to go even for duelist (supposed max dmg dealer) when WL do the same (diff +/- 3% i would say on +30 glad) and have more HP + spammable regen skills nad crowd control...

Well now guess we have to go old style mode again th/wl   :-\
Damn it... wanted to try something different like th-he/gl...last time I played it was in c2-c3.Since than only WL mode all chronicles even it sucked at some point on dragon in some chronicles.. got bored of it...
Yeah it's insane to go as gl now since wl has double the hp/cp,some useful skills + the stuns ( they madness if they weren't touched like it was on dragon )... and dealing same or more dmg... The only + for gl would be p.def/m.def since wl suck at it but...that's questionable since I don't know stats on full buff between them on live.

P.S. Peoro you got the challenge to 1 shot with bow smm like you did with dagger .... now it is possible...I bet you know what I'm thinking right now...Shhhh don't tell anyone "La la la" assassin / WL silent like the wind from da back boom headshot 1 arrow :D QQ rivers will flow soon hahah
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: bomekk on October 12, 2015, 10:07:52 PM
Why u nerfs only warriors and warriors skill start nerfs mages meybe? Alweys mage cry no one who play warriors  post to nerfs mages skils , mages go to hell stop cry and go play
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: acaspe on October 13, 2015, 04:30:50 AM
hello i have a bug in my Gran Kavatari Critical rate stats, i have 56 on stats whent i supuse to have more, and others pj without buff have more of 100, hope u give some solution for this problem, pj name is Tevezito
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: 0wNzer on October 13, 2015, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: acaspe on October 13, 2015, 04:30:50 AM
hello i have a bug in my Gran Kavatari Critical rate stats, i have 56 on stats whent i supuse to have more, and others pj without buff have more of 100, hope u give some solution for this problem, pj name is Tevezito

Items / buff / skill certifs? More details plz.
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: papasmerf24 on October 15, 2015, 10:43:33 AM
Quote from: bomekk on October 12, 2015, 10:07:52 PM
Why u nerfs only warriors and warriors skill start nerfs mages meybe? Alweys mage cry no one who play warriors  post to nerfs mages skils , mages go to hell stop cry and go play
Look At Magnus the unicorn DMG? AOE 1,5k with 2k M deff? and erese? like 10%? Mby something is broken here?
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Vexim on October 15, 2015, 11:06:53 AM
erase +0 = 74 skill level
magnus = 80 lvl
enchant erase to +7 and it will have 78 skill level > higher chance of success
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: papasmerf24 on October 15, 2015, 11:43:34 AM
the case is about foccus atack. foccus atack Gives normal 30% bonus  but it need nerf ok but dont make it 0% cos it useless skill then 10% will be good for daggers
But when ES is op nothing need to be change?
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Peorexo on October 15, 2015, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: Vexim on October 15, 2015, 11:06:53 AM
erase +0 = 74 skill level
magnus = 80 lvl
enchant erase to +7 and it will have 78 skill level > higher chance of success
higher from 1% to 5%, is not helping
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: mruwqa on October 15, 2015, 03:24:33 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 15, 2015, 11:47:00 AM
higher from 1% to 5%, is not helping
would u mind to test it before u post? or you are just mad u made tanks not summoners?
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: bogus on October 15, 2015, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 15, 2015, 11:47:00 AM
higher from 1% to 5%, is not helping

The topic is about FOCUS ATTACK so talk about this. What's going with Track ? Why he silent? Any decision about this skill bonus with dagger?
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Peorexo on October 15, 2015, 04:25:53 PM
Quote from: mruwqa on October 15, 2015, 03:24:33 PM
would u mind to test it before u post? or you are just mad u made tanks not summoners?
Do you mind testing it yourself? With erase +19 erasing pet is still impossible, try it with you imba +7.
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: bogus on October 15, 2015, 04:30:59 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 15, 2015, 04:25:53 PM
Do you mind testing it yourself? With erase +19 erasing pet is still impossible, try it with you imba +7.

Do you have a problem with read? or its something with your head?
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: pmkaboo on October 15, 2015, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 15, 2015, 04:25:53 PM
Do you mind testing it yourself? With erase +19 erasing pet is still impossible, try it with you imba +7.
erase+0 is working for me around 10-20% of the time on 3rd class summons, 95+% on 1st and 2nd class summons
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Peorexo on October 15, 2015, 05:27:48 PM
Quote from: pmkaboo on October 15, 2015, 05:21:47 PM
erase+0 is working for me around 10-20% of the time on 3rd class summons, 95+% on 1st and 2nd class summons
I can log summoner with +0 2nd class pet and if you will make there 95% erase chance i will give u 100 coins
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: stanko on October 15, 2015, 05:29:48 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 15, 2015, 05:27:48 PM
I can log summoner with +0 2nd class pet and if you will make there 95% erase chance i will give u 100 coins
Add 100 more from me if he makes it...
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: pmkaboo on October 15, 2015, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 15, 2015, 05:27:48 PM
I can log summoner with +0 2nd class pet and if you will make there 95% erase chance i will give u 100 coins
sure, ill be online in about 1.5h, pm icey when youre ready.
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: bogus on October 18, 2015, 01:09:26 PM
UP ! Any solution ? Why Track Silent?
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Xardas on October 18, 2015, 03:32:45 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 15, 2015, 05:27:48 PM
I can log summoner with +0 2nd class pet and if you will make there 95% erase chance i will give u 100 coins
Don't lose your money mate was recently doing some pvpz... (Duel) Specificaly, my pet got erased after 2 casts im level 79 so pet's as max as it can get
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Peorexo on October 18, 2015, 03:37:49 PM
Quote from: Xardas on October 18, 2015, 03:32:45 PM
Don't lose your money mate was recently doing some pvpz... (Duel) Specificaly, my pet got erased after 2 casts im level 79 so pet's as max as it can get
I will not loose my money, ppl probably dont know how erase works, how to resist it and how to buff the landrate. Truth is this skill is useless until very late game. Works only on noobs.
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Xardas on October 18, 2015, 04:48:51 PM
Quote from: Peorexo on October 18, 2015, 03:37:49 PM
I will not loose my money, ppl probably dont know how erase works, how to resist it and how to buff the landrate. Truth is this skill is useless until very late game. Works only on noobs.

That's rude, you don't see me calling you a noob and no the cat was full buffed :) including resists :)
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: stanko on October 18, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
Quote from: Xardas on October 18, 2015, 04:48:51 PM
That's rude, you don't see me calling you a noob and no the cat was full buffed :) including resists :)
resists? wind? elemental? sure it won't get erased then yo!
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Xardas on October 18, 2015, 06:21:29 PM
Quote from: stanko on October 18, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
resists? wind? elemental? sure it won't get erased then yo!

Elemental/arcane sadly no wind but now that I know that ty or hvala :)
Title: Re: Focus atack
Post by: Alannah on October 18, 2015, 09:47:16 PM
regarding focus attack:
full value value of critical damage (%) to pole, half value(%) to other bow/meele used weapons, regarding the skill lvl ofc

so max lvl skill 30% crit dmg to pole, 15% to other weapons