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Title: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: DARRKS on November 10, 2015, 11:42:01 PM
hello,

I didn't realize that every time major heal is agro on surrounding mobs ... so many changes ... please answer why major heal is not how it should be without to provoke mobs.

If you will say that HB is like this please change it, for alone hunter players it is too hard...


P.S.: I need only ADM answer, other Pro players to keep they opinion for them...

Thanks for "help".
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: Xarion on November 11, 2015, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: DARRKS on November 10, 2015, 11:42:01 PM
hello,

I didn't realize that every time major heal is agro on surrounding mobs ... so many changes ... please answer why major heal is not how it should be without to provoke mobs.

If you will say that HB is like this please change it, for alone hunter players it is too hard...


P.S.: I need only ADM answer, other Pro players to keep they opinion for them...

Thanks for "help".

This is part of game to agro. About changing i will discuss with track when he feels better.
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: stanko on November 11, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
Quote from: ^Xarion^ on November 11, 2015, 12:24:43 PM
This is part of game to agro. About changing i will discuss with track when he feels better.
every skill has agro points in it, dont listen to random QQs
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: NunoPitbull on November 11, 2015, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: stanko on November 11, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
every skill has agro points in it, dont listen to random QQs

This.

Even recharge agroes.
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: pmkaboo on November 11, 2015, 05:56:27 PM
Quote from: stanko on November 11, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
every skill has agro points in it, dont listen to random QQs
nobless and ress dont agro, and i think celestial doesnt either
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: Phonex on November 11, 2015, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: DARRKS on November 10, 2015, 11:42:01 PM

If you will say that HB is like this please change it, for alone hunter players it is too hard...

...

Thanks for "help".

it´s a team game not a solo one :D
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: DARRKS on November 11, 2015, 09:21:39 PM
I agree that it's team game, but players that have some age and kids, family like me have only 1h-3h from time to time to play for fun this game. An I am shore that the biggest part of donations are coming from players who are working not from players who have "adena" from parents like 65%+ ....

Players like me are not QQ's we play lineage since very long time and trust me I know how those skills are working and Major Heal it is non aggressive skills exactly to be uses for raids and for PvE purpose, if you need more heal it is normal that all other skills for healing are making huge agro...

Other side it is that some of you are blind, I don't care your opinion, if ADM/DEV will think that my point of view it is ok they will apply or NOT without to read your stupid replay... one old DN player say that "use to it, players from DN are like this" very true arguments...

Hope to not play alone very soon, because seems that big changes are every day and others like me loose a lot of time to make good char with all subclass and from next day all OP skills are no more useful...

Have a nice day guys and girls!
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: Peorexo on November 11, 2015, 09:40:38 PM
Quote from: DARRKS on November 11, 2015, 09:21:39 PM
I agree that it's team game, but players that have some age and kids, family like me have only 1h-3h from time to time to play for fun this game. An I am shore that the biggest part of donations are coming from players who are working not from players who have "adena" from parents like 65%+ ....

Players like me are not QQ's we play lineage since very long time and trust me I know how those skills are working and Major Heal it is non aggressive skills exactly to be uses for raids and for PvE purpose, if you need more heal it is normal that all other skills for healing are making huge agro...

Other side it is that some of you are blind, I don't care your opinion, if ADM/DEV will think that my point of view it is ok they will apply or NOT without to read your stupid replay... one old DN player say that "use to it, players from DN are like this" very true arguments...

Hope to not play alone very soon, because seems that big changes are every day and others like me loose a lot of time to make good char with all subclass and from next day all OP skills are no more useful...

Have a nice day guys and girls!
Every heal will grant you aggro points
Major Heal lvl.11
Restores the target's HP with 946 Power. Consumes 1 Spirit Ore.   \
Aggro Points   546
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: iSpoil on November 12, 2015, 08:11:41 AM
Quote from: Peorexo on November 11, 2015, 09:40:38 PM
Every heal will grant you aggro points
Major Heal lvl.11
Restores the target's HP with 946 Power. Consumes 1 Spirit Ore.   \
Aggro Points   546

He says he solo. If he solo he doesnt care about aggro lvl. He says it provokes as Provoke or Hate Aura... no idea if its possible or he just aggroed ramdomly room in Pagans
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: Xarion on November 12, 2015, 08:51:37 AM
Quote from: DARRKS on November 11, 2015, 09:21:39 PM
I agree that it's team game, but players that have some age and kids, family like me have only 1h-3h from time to time to play for fun this game. An I am shore that the biggest part of donations are coming from players who are working not from players who have "adena" from parents like 65%+ ....

Players like me are not QQ's we play lineage since very long time and trust me I know how those skills are working and Major Heal it is non aggressive skills exactly to be uses for raids and for PvE purpose, if you need more heal it is normal that all other skills for healing are making huge agro...

Other side it is that some of you are blind, I don't care your opinion, if ADM/DEV will think that my point of view it is ok they will apply or NOT without to read your stupid replay... one old DN player say that "use to it, players from DN are like this" very true arguments...

Hope to not play alone very soon, because seems that big changes are every day and others like me loose a lot of time to make good char with all subclass and from next day all OP skills are no more useful...

Have a nice day guys and girls!
I understand your point of view but removing agro from some skills is like removing a part of game. Indeed we are not the kids that we used to be some years ago but adjusting game to every one time schedule is hard and if we think a bit more about it kind of requires to remove almost the most things that made this game so famous.
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: DARRKS on November 12, 2015, 11:08:42 PM
OK, I am agree with your Idea and point of view, than please restore all changes to all skills that you did till now and let's play retail version of stuck sub and to see how it will be :)))))

If I start to write all "bad" or balance purpose changes I will write some lines .... this server is custom if I remember where I played starting C4 ... so arguments that retail it is like "this" have 0 value.

Thanks for your feedback and for understand my point of view.

Have a nice day!
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: Jameson on November 13, 2015, 05:36:46 AM
What's the problem here?? Heal surely not aggros like Warlord's Provoke skill. Because 1-2 mobs attacked you, the game should be changed?
Title: Re: Major Heal - Agro
Post by: Xarion on November 13, 2015, 12:48:21 PM
Quote from: DARRKS on November 12, 2015, 11:08:42 PM
OK, I am agree with your Idea and point of view, than please restore all changes to all skills that you did till now and let's play retail version of stuck sub and to see how it will be :)))))

If I start to write all "bad" or balance purpose changes I will write some lines .... this server is custom if I remember where I played starting C4 ... so arguments that retail it is like "this" have 0 value.

Thanks for your feedback and for understand my point of view.

Have a nice day!
Putting back to retail all skills will unbalance entire game since is sub stack . And agro is not something that unbalance the game in my opinion. Anyway is final decision :)

have a nice day :)