Hello Track and Alannah. I just want to know if my friends and i should keep playing on Hellraiser 25x and we will see more improvements and active gms, or we should move to Dragon 15x.
We are waiting for a sincere answer because we want to keep playing on dragon-network.
My opinion is, I will keep playing here, until it closes. I don't want to go dragon, Glasy and Drake owns dragon and its boring that way.
I would like to know what date the server has until it closes and well I will keep having fun myself of meeting new ppl until then.
i asked Track today for conference talk, since it looks like we are 2 remaining staff members currently on Hellraiser (honestly for long time being now)
-- in before trolls arriving with the demagog slogans like soon, etc. --
There have been some discussions already between us, i adviced even upgrade idea, but then it simply can't be option 101% sure, because we don't have
gracia extender with all these extra addons on HB (pvp mode, pvp event engine and so on), the cost it self to develop it (both in $ and time) neither an option right in this moment(i mean it like, we would not be able simply to provide GF within few weeks) cause income is less obviously. But this idea neither dropped, so can be an option.
Before someone starts spreading false things and stuffs, there is no tarantula reborn. You need to understand we are not like other projects to open every month a new server. I don't want to offend somebody with these ideas, I would love to see those times again, but you also need to understand it can't be now. We have a saying here: we don't "poo" to the same place where we eat, so I mean we don't ruin Dragon Network by this.
I know many of you are pissed if it seems any of the staff members looks like inactive, i can't promise to be here always, I have my own work too, my real life
y I flash now "Real life card", but when I can, I always did assist Track and most of the changes and addons are done by me with the dev team.
now some background infos about dev team:
You need to know market structure, how it works etc. So there have been dark times also to dev team, they got issues as well, the sales did not go as good as it can be to them, some of the devs left the team, we are few remaining left and progress of every single development gets slowed down by this. Even a single change can take up to a week to get fixed or so. If you don't have the good developers you can't do much and stuck in a place, we must appreciate the remaining team.
BACK ON TOPIC
not yet discussed anything serious, i just flashed some ideas what to move on
I was started thinking about moving a bit more instant pvp like concept, because lets be real
ppl who left already will not log and start farming again, there are pretty few newbies coming
if they log and see population low, they won't keep playing
Also need to keep on mind it's 2016, there aren't many projects with high online and aren't many which keeps the online for more than few months
Another thing to notice: this is hellbound project, so don't compare this to other projects cause those IL and Hi5 servers out there are more stable files cause it's been played for years now (tested, bugfixed during these years), ofc we have problems with such a chronicle but yet we launched it on acceptable terms and conditions and it was up for a period of time good.
My thoughts about move on are written already few lines up^
something like more pvp server, where ppl log, pvp, log off when they get bored -- in short --
the servers and files are paid for long period so it won't disappear just like that
once there is something we discuss, there will be an announcement
Thank you for answer me Alannah.
I don't like instant PvP server. I prefer PvPs during sieges, bosses, farm, clan wars and such things like these.
But my friends and i will keep playing and voting for server keep alive.
For me, play on this server was a way to see old friends again and make new friends. The chance to revive the feelings of old Nightmare 30x from 2007 was amazing!
Just shake hands with glasy and help him with dragon. Alone he isn't able to improve the server but with some skilled stuff dragon could be playable for circa 3 more years. And let's be honest - this community fame and wealth is build by dragon x15, whether anyone accepts it or not.
Me and a couple of friends started playing here a couple of days ago. I have to say, the server's execution is top notch.. there's a good balance between PvP & PvE and support chars aren't killed by OP NPC buffs (as you have on many PvP servers), too long buffs (songs/dances/..) or instant HP/MP pots. We're just missing enough ppl for there to be any drama at the higher levels (and drama is the end-game in L2 :p) to keep it interesting in the long run. But then again, it's 2016 and there are only a few private servers left with over 1k players.
@GM, keep the server up! I still have to farm for a bit before I can pvp the forum's crybabies ;D
Quote from: Crot on March 22, 2016, 10:38:44 AM
Me and a couple of friends started playing here a couple of days ago. I have to say, the server's execution is top notch.. there's a good balance between PvP & PvE and support chars aren't killed by OP NPC buffs (as you have on many PvP servers), too long buffs (songs/dances/..) or instant HP/MP pots. We're just missing enough ppl for there to be any drama at the higher levels (and drama is the end-game in L2 :p) to keep it interesting in the long run. But then again, it's 2016 and there are only a few private servers left with over 1k players.
@GM, keep the server up! I still have to farm for a bit before I can pvp the forum's crybabies ;D
I heard that before, those people quited w/o pvping :D just because they farmed S grades after 6months
Merge with dragon. Make some reasonable upgrade of equipment for people here and help Glasy with it.
Quote from: Nickelback on March 22, 2016, 10:48:43 AM
Merge with dragon. Make some reasonable upgrade of equipment for people here and help Glasy with it.
merge hb with h5 :DD there is no single item from hb usable in h5, im looking forward for upgrade balance :D it could be the best option tho
Quote from: mruwqa on March 22, 2016, 10:47:03 AM
I heard that before, those people quited w/o pvping :D just because they farmed S grades after 6months
Once we agree on some ideas we have we will inform you. Server, of course, will remain up.
The only way to work and fix x15 is by banning glasy and wiping dx, when that happens msg me.
For example ic weapons here to top s84 on h5. Dyna sets with essence II to elegia sets. Dyna weapons to vesper or mids etc.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on March 22, 2016, 10:54:22 AM
Once we agree on some ideas we have we will inform you. Server, of course, will remain up.
The only way to work and fix x15 is by banning glasy and wiping dx, when that happens msg me.
Atlast he's active :>
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on March 22, 2016, 10:54:22 AMThe only way to work and fix x15 is by banning glasy and wiping dx, when that happens msg me.
And to put you in charge, bcs all your servers turned out to be so successfull. Glasy has his issues, but so do you. The only reason Hellraiser was alive that long was Allanah. Merging could actually make ppl from both servers to have more fun, but you don't care about that, do you? It always has to be you against Glasy, i don't know the background of your relations, but from what we can actually see is that you act like a kid, spamming in dragon topics with your low flames toward him and his server which quite frankly is in better condition than your 3 projects.
Quote from: Nickelback on March 22, 2016, 11:29:47 AM
And to put you in charge, bcs all your servers turned out to be so successfull. Glasy has his issues, but so do you. The only reason Hellraiser was alive that long was Allanah. Merging could actually make ppl from both servers to have more fun, but you don't care about that, do you? It always has to be you against Glasy, i don't know the background of your relations, but from what we can actually see is that you act like a kid, spamming in dragon topics with your low flames toward him and his server which quite frankly is in better condition than your 3 projects.
Most of the people play/played on Hellraiser because they didnt want to play on dragon. Merge wont do any difference to dragon and specially to Hellraiser. This server is... unfortunately dead and you can do nothing about it, even wiping is pointless because bugs are still not fixed (check baium topic). Huge waste of potential.
If it was most, or half or only some, hard to say and it doesn't really matter. In the end, this server - most likely - is done. So merging won't do any harm, who would like it after merging can stay and play, who doesn't can simply leave. Nothing to lose really.
what merging? did you consider it that ppl choose hr bcs it is hb chronicle? there is plenty h5 servers and if i would like to play on h5 i will choose more populated server than dragon. and after merge ppl fron hr will quit after 2 weeks bcs there would be centuries behind ppl from dragon...
That's why i said they should upgrade their equipment, ppl might have chosen this server bcs of its chronicle, but there is nothing happening here anymore, so if they want to have some fun it's worth being considered. Read whole topic next time, not just last posts.
Too much effort for like 5-10 ppl (?) who will stay on dragon...
You won't know untill you try, i heard some ppl are joining oly now, oly at h5 is 10x better than one on previous chronicles.
Merge you crazy? I have old account here from nm and he merge this account whit same account its bad idea
It happened once when they merged nm and arena, with same accounts, they found a way to solve this. Anyway Track is too proud to merge with Dragon so it's kinda pointless to even talk about it.
Quote from: Naiz on March 22, 2016, 10:58:18 AM
Atlast he's active :>
He is active because he has clan on the server where he is GM,playing and leading a clan. Can he be neutral and fair to everyone? Does quantity = quality? Im not logging into game , because i dont have time, BUT, every report we got and most of the serious issues i have read here on forum or via pm we resolved withing 48h, therefor if someone wants to reach us or seek help, he have community board aka forum where his problem will be resolved in no time. I do agree that activity from september 2015 would be awesome, but thats not possible right now because i have to work like a slave in order to keep rl going. We are looking for active GM that will support players (its not an easy task, but we will manage it eventually).
Once again i do remind you that L2 for us is a enjoyable hobby, we love to develop projects. Server is free to play, and players are the one who keeps it running. Thats why we are brainstorming some ideas and once we think we found acceptable solution we will announce it.
Quote from: Funkeh on March 22, 2016, 11:51:58 AM
Most of the people play/played on Hellraiser because they didnt want to play on dragon. Merge wont do any difference to dragon and specially to Hellraiser. This server is... unfortunately dead and you can do nothing about it, even wiping is pointless because bugs are still not fixed (check baium topic). Huge waste of potential.
there is no baium bug in files, server uses GetTickCount for timings
when the server uptime reaches 45 days
the tick count goes >int max
which freaks up timings
I can't even imagine even some serious issues to these files, cause they have been used on live Euro NAIA server back then, with the extender (gf) all dupes and exploits were fixed, then we downgraded it
About glasy... bein' a GM and havin' his own clan is the ultimate tabu, i guess, in all MMOs. Is he biased... hell yea and that sux monkey ballz! Theres a reason ppl left dragon to play on hellraiser, so it rly funny seein' same ppl that had so much bad things to say about dragon and glasy, now, all of a sudden goin back. Laws of physics and laws in general just dont apply on dragon and thats a real turnoff for a casual player like myself. So im hopin' that some kind of miracle happenes that keeps hellraiser up, active and fun.
Quote from: ^Alannah^ on March 22, 2016, 02:48:31 PM
there is no baium bug in files, server uses GetTickCount for timings
when the server uptime reaches 45 days
the tick count goes >int max
which freaks up timings
I can't even imagine even some serious issues to these files, cause they have been used on live Euro NAIA server back then, with the extender (gf) all dupes and exploits were fixed, then we downgraded it
Then why epics kept spawning right after death for the second time? Baium got killed several times, pretty sure it was more than 10 or even 20. What is it if not a bug?
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on March 22, 2016, 02:43:40 PM
He is active because he has clan on the server where he is GM,playing and leading a clan. Can he be neutral and fair to everyone? Does quantity = quality? Im not logging into game , because i dont have time, BUT, every report we got and most of the serious issues i have read here on forum or via pm we resolved withing 48h, therefor if someone wants to reach us or seek help, he have community board aka forum where his problem will be resolved in no time. I do agree that activity from september 2015 would be awesome, but thats not possible right now because i have to work like a slave in order to keep rl going. We are looking for active GM that will support players (its not an easy task, but we will manage it eventually).
Once again i do remind you that L2 for us is a enjoyable hobby, we love to develop projects. Server is free to play, and players are the one who keeps it running. Thats why we are brainstorming some ideas and once we think we found acceptable solution we will announce it.
I didn't mean to offend you by this sentence. I was just stating a fact. Daily active GM was one of the most important things this server missed in my opinion. For me it doesn't rly matter if he's a leader of a clan and even helping it, cuz of his power(i know that most of ppl prolly wouldn't like that). I've been playing on Dragon for years and i know exactly how it looks.
Quote from: Funkeh on March 22, 2016, 03:09:00 PM
Then why epics kept spawning right after death for the second time? Baium got killed several times, pretty sure it was more than 10 or even 20. What is it if not a bug?
As She said, in next 44 days there will be another Baium festival...
Anyway: I should be Gm, atleast ppl would stop use bot in stakato nest etc... :D
IMO while you think about how to improve the server further you should put A grade gears in the ALT+B shop. I have found many new players in the past days and I help them in any way I can, but the same issue I've found with all of them: no A grade gear. Put A grades into that shop so that new players can keep playing while you think about future updates, that would help a lot.
P.S.: The S grade sets from vote reward are bugged last time I checked, they weren't giving the set bonuses, dunno if it was fixed 'coz I haven't rechecked.
Quote from: legendaryvicious on March 22, 2016, 04:07:31 PM
IMO while you think about how to improve the server further you should put A grade gears in the ALT+B shop. I have found many new players in the past days and I help them in any way I can, but the same issue I've found with all of them: no A grade gear. Put A grades into that shop so that new players can keep playing while you think about future updates, that would help a lot.
P.S.: The S grade sets from vote reward are bugged last time I checked, they weren't giving the set bonuses, dunno if it was fixed 'coz I haven't rechecked.
If A grade will be available in ALT B shop, put them for high-average price... Not for "free"
Mixing with Dragon is not an option. Track already said it, some people said it, I did said it. The problem is not the server itself but the people who owns it.
I think most of the guys who have played Dragon in the gold ages and until now knows what I mean, DX is not the top clan because they are far more organized or better...
From the begining I saw people speaking about HellRaiser project, about focus on PvP, not having top items on Donny so it will be equally good. But after that I saw no TvT events, or GM events, no voting system (thanks god we have it now), Reward coins not correctly working.
I will be honest, I was expecting more PvP focus, not farming focus RB focus.
Quote from: legendaryvicious on March 22, 2016, 04:07:31 PM
IMO while you think about how to improve the server further you should put A grade gears in the ALT+B shop. I have found many new players in the past days and I help them in any way I can, but the same issue I've found with all of them: no A grade gear. Put A grades into that shop so that new players can keep playing while you think about future updates, that would help a lot.
P.S.: The S grade sets from vote reward are bugged last time I checked, they weren't giving the set bonuses, dunno if it was fixed 'coz I haven't rechecked.
Totally agree
Quote from: legendaryvicious on March 22, 2016, 04:07:31 PM
IMO while you think about how to improve the server further you should put A grade gears in the ALT+B shop. I have found many new players in the past days and I help them in any way I can, but the same issue I've found with all of them: no A grade gear. Put A grades into that shop so that new players can keep playing while you think about future updates, that would help a lot.
P.S.: The S grade sets from vote reward are bugged last time I checked, they weren't giving the set bonuses, dunno if it was fixed 'coz I haven't rechecked.
As a new player on this server, I agree... put A grade stuff in the ALT+B shop for a bit of money (don't make it too easy to obtain though). Right now there's no point in getting A grade, I'll just skip it and go straight to S.
hmm if I'm not wrong, A grade sets/weapons are added to newbie packs (limited time ofc 30days or so)!? correct me if im wrong
but sure we can add them anyway
Quote from: ^Alannah^ on March 22, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
hmm if I'm not wrong, A grade sets/weapons are added to newbie packs (limited time ofc 30days or so)!? correct me if im wrong
but sure we can add them anyway
I think so, but many new players dont know about it coz there is no announcement, so they open it and then lose it. I was talking to a guy ig, he was telling me he had to go to a job trip for 1 month; when he came back he lost all A grade gear from newbie box and he was 6x something so he was fked up lol
Quote from: ^Alannah^ on March 22, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
hmm if I'm not wrong, A grade sets/weapons are added to newbie packs (limited time ofc 30days or so)!? correct me if im wrong
but sure we can add them anyway
What newbie packs? :o I suppose it's not that thing in your inventory..
Quote from: Crot on March 22, 2016, 09:42:30 PM
What newbie packs? :o I suppose it's not that thing in your inventory..
Yes, it is ;D
I didn't know that about newbie packs, because the first newbie pack I had never had it haha.
Anyways I vote for include A grade on B store.
Quote from: Crot on March 23, 2016, 01:01:38 AM
That one only goes up to C grade though ;)
See? Did not know that :P
Quote from: Peorexo on March 23, 2016, 09:49:15 AM
is tick count getting resetted when baium spawns?
If i understood right, it isn't related to baium's respawn
Quote from: TheBPhoenix on March 23, 2016, 11:53:28 AM
If i understood right, it isn't related to baium's respawn
nevermind i misread.
Can you change the use lvl exp potions 74 -->80 .This will help new players to match the levels of other
Quote from: salek on March 23, 2016, 05:00:43 PM
Can you change the use lvl exp potions 74 -->80 .This will help new players to match the levels of other
no, they rather have 1e from u buying it at donny shop. it used to be normal pots for votes to 85, but they wanted $ instead of promo
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