So, what is the idea here?
Chars from HR will be migred to Ayrin? Or you guys just gonna close HR and everyone who trusted you will lose all donations/chars?
People still don't know what COMPLETLY NEW SERVER means ;D
why would I start with full boss set and Icarus Dagger when other people start with no grades???
Quote from: mruwqa on May 22, 2017, 09:03:20 PM
why would I start with full boss set and Icarus Dagger when other people start with no grades???
your vanity is ridiculous awful LOL
Naiz smartass
About the data migration +1
if DN considers that migrating HR tons to Ayrin could cause some serious unbalance and discourage new players due having 80lv with top equipment, tons of adena and materials around then a refund sounds like a better option. Let's say, give some # or % of coins or adena to current HR players, check the active accounts and send em some claim ticket, item, thing... so they can get at least a piece of all the money and time they invested in HR.
Dont have to do this b4 Ayrin starts, take your time and check who deserves the "refund" like many legit players and donators, even if takes months i bet many would be glad to see their HR chars & some stuff on Ayrin while they wait lvling new tons.
Or just migrate the characters, put em on "jail" state for some time till new ppl catch up, let say 1,2,3 months then release them.
Quote from: Barbaro on May 23, 2017, 12:39:29 AM
so they can get at least a piece of all the money and time they invested in HR.
i think everyone invested time & money into HellRaiser.
because you ignored the fact that the server was dead/dieing and stayed doesn't mean you deserve a headstart on the new one :)
you also got to start with 0 just like everyone ells imo
Quote from: Barbaro on May 23, 2017, 12:39:29 AM
put em on "jail" state for some time till new ppl catch up, let say 1,2,3 months then release them.
Farm epic bosses on a dead server then transfer them on the new one :D
hahaha +1 for your efforts!!
I should've never threw all my gear on the ground when i left... *FeelsBadMan*
Quote from: Guillermus on May 22, 2017, 06:25:54 PM
So, what is the idea here?
Chars from HR will be migred to Ayrin? Or you guys just gonna close HR and everyone who trusted you will lose all donations/chars?
GW2 :p
People worried about HR2 stuff while i'm here, sitting, waiting for a real LOW rate substack to happen since forever :( Fvck HR2 and Ayrin(no offence). When are we getting a long term server without all the custom BS. :/
Am i the only one that wants a slow progression server like we had back in the old days? (https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/566c9fc265dbbdab32ec053b/1x)
Well, i wont be playing on Ayrin for sure. High rates/npc buffers were never my cup of tea.
meh ::)
Quote from: Clonage on May 23, 2017, 02:20:59 AM
People worried about HR2 stuff while i'm here, sitting, waiting for a real LOW rate substack to happen since forever :( Fvck HR2 and Ayrin(no offence). When are we getting a long term server without all the custom BS. :/
Am i the only one that wants a slow progression server like we had back in the old days? (https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/566c9fc265dbbdab32ec053b/1x)
Well, i wont be playing on Ayrin for sure. High rates/npc buffers were never my cup of tea.
no youre not, but high rates is ok
lot of ppl cant play long hours or like back in 2008 as no lifers...
some ppl have to work and atend real life
a shame is we cannot live like 9 years ago...
i mentioned tonz of times till track got tired of my posts
and it seems devs refused to work with old C4
not bad at all, i know npcbuffer is no good
but if you want my personal opinion
all expansion upper oath of blood is no good...
sub class certification system+kamael made this game diferent
dont want to bore with my precambric story of L2
just watch my signature and be happy (? ? ?) hahaha lol !
(sometimes i wonder...)
(are we going to die old playing lineage 2 arent we)
cmon get positive lets change tea for coffee 8)
well, this is a high rate so its pretty easy to have progression, specially with the custom things added to the files like the barakiel part of nobless and the baium part of retail. Not to mention npc buffer, stucksub system which allows u to have literaly 2 classes in 1 char... Quests are boosted, drop rates are boosted, It seems there will be spots that are boosted too, mana pots ... I don't know, but I would say the "I can't play much time anymore" argument can only work to a certain level of ridiculousness. Just my opinion bro, DN is already giving you everything you want as a casual player and ur still begging for more while we who prefer slow progression servers are just accepting this and some are even willing to try the server like me. This speaks to the difference of attitude of people some would say
im with herrmayer, low rate sounds wonderful but the long term stuff and reaching endgame stage hurts sucking life out of you without noticing it and one day you realize it took weeks or months to achieve something barely valuable, the same thing takes a couple of weeks on high rates so not everyone is excited about spending more life with L2.
What about HR1 and Tarantula chars/items? What about the people that donated and played there till the end? Should we get all of these geared chars to Ayrin too?
Like seriously, you guys farmed all your gear for free on empty server. Stop whining already.
New server means completely new beginning for everyone, however Ayrin concept is adapted for SUMMER and JOY, not for an ultimate grinding, which doesn't suit at all summertime. I am quite sure you are aware of those facts.
Quote from: Barbaro on May 23, 2017, 02:11:55 PM
indeed cant argue so much but as an example
my lilmayer char in dragon ( his origin resides in nightmare )
i have donated some euros years ago and stills have all his items
but in fact
is in a server where i could be happy to see it downgrading to C4
if there were any good extender around wich basically is a dream
bcz the only resource i could see is some brazilian work
that is not really good at all, it cointains minimal and no fixes...
and is unstable plus his most work is srv announce on pvp...
i wont mention more bcz is not necesary
going back on topic i cannot agree with beeing hypocrite bcz new srv
DN was since i know low rates server and high rates server
so finally is going back on his wheels
with a low exp rate srv and a high exp rate srv
enough reason to be happy
Ulala :3
maybe with 200x rates some1 would join :D
xD I left HR2 when it died, I don't enjoy playing on servers with 20 people who log only to kill one or two epics and to feed oly points. I still watched the forum almost everyday. And I've been defending the staff since the beggining, when they deserve to be defended and criticized them when they needed to get criticized to get things moving. I find it hilarious that you don't see how ridiculous you get with the arguments you give but oh well, I guess I should just start insulting people to see if they understand since it does appear to be your only means of communication
Quote from: Clonage on May 23, 2017, 02:20:59 AM
People worried about HR2 stuff while i'm here, sitting, waiting for a real LOW rate substack to happen since forever :( Fvck HR2 and Ayrin(no offence). When are we getting a long term server without all the custom BS. :/
Am i the only one that wants a slow progression server like we had back in the old days? (https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/566c9fc265dbbdab32ec053b/1x)
Well, i wont be playing on Ayrin for sure. High rates/npc buffers were never my cup of tea.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6Bk1kXXQAAXJnY.jpg)
It is 2017, not 2009 :)
(https://pics.onsizzle.com/donald-trump-wants-illegal-aliens-gone-hold-me-back-bitch-6835539.png)
sauce? looks like William Bouguereau or alexandre cabanel style, not the alien of course.
Quote from: Barbaro on May 23, 2017, 04:47:54 PM
SAYS -> its so easy pretend to "be right/better" being ambiguous and avoiding discussion.
MOMMENTS LATER -> Oh and if you mean "the mountain" example (bring it on don't be shy) i think you are the same who months ago didnt understood another analogy that i brought in some "fear" topic and even send ya to wiki "analogy & figurative speech" is not that hard really, you can find thousands of examples on internet, don't take it too seriously and don't be surprised your "earning" this behavior.
Well ok
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:) The fact that I don't answer in the way you want me to is hurting your ego so bad and you're letting "him" control your actions. I won't answer to things that will further trigger your ego. I haven't said a thing that might hurt DN so I don't feel the need to edit or delete my posts. If the staff thinks I'm overreaching they can delete them or tell me to, I would understand
Can you lick moar boy? get a "tenderheart" pic it fits ya.
and nope, the fact so far is that you simply can't, ur unable to argue further in the freaking discussion forum, if not willing to continue then think twice where, to who and what are you posting.
You're out of cards, lazy, arrogant, and won't admit any fault or show humility as the self righteous dou you are so go ahead avoid confrontation it seems its ur last resort that comes sooner than later.
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tarantula had problem of old clans leaving and new clans coming, it was epic sick serv lasted for like a year and I was sure it will be forever, but you people are so du mb u will quit no matter what, and then 1year after u decided its not worth to play u start to play again instead of have fun with constant 2k people forever even if u log once a week u would find fun if u didnt quit just take break or sth :)
Quote from: Picksy on May 23, 2017, 03:20:08 PM
xD I left HR2 when it died, I don't enjoy playing on servers with 20 people who log only to kill one or two epics and to feed oly points. I still watched the forum almost everyday. And I've been defending the staff since the beggining, when they deserve to be defended and criticized them when they needed to get criticized to get things moving. I find it hilarious that you don't see how ridiculous you get with the arguments you give but oh well, I guess I should just start insulting people to see if they understand since it does appear to be your only means of communication
yeah i remember when u leave and want sell items for real money dude =/ soo much euro for pixel damn !
omg you did what pocksy? is it true? i cant believe it i refuse to believe such thing, shame on you shameee bad boy :o :-\ :-X
Quote from: mruwqa on May 23, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
tarantula had problem of old clans leaving and new clans coming, it was epic sick serv lasted for like a year and I was sure it will be forever, but you people are so du mb u will quit no matter what, and then 1year after u decided its not worth to play u start to play again instead of have fun with constant 2k people forever even if u log once a week u would find fun if u didnt quit just take break or sth :)
+1 the community sometimes is beyond toxic and kills servers, at 1st sign of problems some run like rats leaving the boat behind.
These espanoles are pretty mad
:-X
Quote from: mruwqa on May 23, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
tarantula had problem of old clans leaving and new clans coming, it was epic sick serv lasted for like a year and I was sure it will be forever, but you people are so du mb u will quit no matter what, and then 1year after u decided its not worth to play u start to play again instead of have fun with constant 2k people forever even if u log once a week u would find fun if u didnt quit just take break or sth :)
well from my perspective, i stayed on Tarantula until the end
and i left HR1 after the coin scandal, and i left HR2 after the GM scandal.
as long as noone is cheating (idc about botting) i'm here to stay :D
Quote from: Barbaro on May 23, 2017, 02:11:55 PM
im with herrmayer, low rate sounds wonderful but the long term stuff and reaching endgame stage hurts sucking life out of you without noticing it and one day you realize it took weeks or months to achieve something barely valuable, the same thing takes a couple of weeks on high rates so not everyone is excited about spending more life with L2. That's one of the reasons why some wonder if there's a way to save HR data and migrate to Ayrin, i spent years with 15x, quitted and went to official Shilen, then came back with tarantula and finally with HR2 im tired to start from scratch again and again, it takes me like 2-3 years to get back that l2 desire again after one serv closes.
Low rates could work and be nice with C1 to C4 interlude top, with hellbound idk its painful.
oh Picksy, is not about how much are you getting or how fast you can achieve sht, its the feeling, actually the fact that some ppl invested life and cash AGAIN to see everything going down the toilet without consideration.
Like climbing a mountain with ur bare hands, almost reaching the top and then someone takes you back to the start and says "wops ok take this hammer and ropes go again" and the same sht repeats again and again, every time the guy gives ya better equipment but at some point it's inevitable to think "seriously wtf is wrong with you?" and then "k have it ur way i quit". Even if they give you a damn chopper its not the same.
where were you and your positive attitude when DN ignored for 2 months all the suggestions, complaints and more to save HR? hiding behind a rock? went to warland with the flock or quitted like tesallate because "server was dead/dying" so fu it? and then suddenly ZOMG new serv gogogo stop whining support DN kinda hypocrite...
Gonna erase this post soon, new people don't deserve a bad impression i dont wanna spoil the fun or desire to play Ayrin for them and i suggest you to do the same soon as i erase mine. Also tesallate delusional douche i could argue with ya in private but u look like the attention whore kind so why bother?
Anyway i think Guille is the smart guy here, waiting an official answer avoiding discussion with other ppl
Track gave the "official answer", but the fact is that one "GM" destroyed HR and good will players paid the price.
DN managed this event like shit, closing forum 1 month and then magically they come up with another server. They took us for clowns.
Mods can close this topic whenever you want.
Quote from: Guillermus on May 23, 2017, 11:42:10 PM
but the fact is that one "GM" destroyed HR
https://youtu.be/US5uq6JvfCM (https://youtu.be/US5uq6JvfCM)
Quote from: Guillermus on May 23, 2017, 11:42:10 PM
then magically they come up with another server
that is enough for us, is at least a good thing instead of nothing
so...
in few words about that one who destroyed srv
https://youtu.be/eFAdAw90Dc4 (https://youtu.be/eFAdAw90Dc4)
8) 8) ahha
Quote from: Vendettacz on May 23, 2017, 04:40:24 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6Bk1kXXQAAXJnY.jpg)
It is 2017, not 2009 :)
Ah! I heard that one before ;D
Quote from: abusinG on May 23, 2017, 09:55:45 PM
yeah i remember when u leave and want sell items for real money dude =/ soo much euro for pixel damn !
HERE WE GO AGAIN, IKS NECRO DE! AHAHAHAH
Quote from: Naiz on May 23, 2017, 10:52:43 PM
These espanoles are pretty mad
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Quote from: abusinG on May 23, 2017, 09:55:45 PM
yeah i remember when u leave and want sell items for real money dude =/ soo much euro for pixel damn !
XD I gotta say, those 0,50â,¬ that I got for selling my valakas helped me alot....
dude... take your head out of ur ass, I haven't once sold items for real money. The extreme thing that I might do when I leave a server is to simply drop everything in giran XD wtf is that idea of me selling shit for real money, its not the first time I heard it --'
Quote from: Barbaro on May 24, 2017, 05:47:04 AM
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XD XD XD XD XD
Quote from: Picksy on May 24, 2017, 09:10:42 AM
XD I gotta say, those 0,50â,¬ that I got for selling my valakas helped me alot....
dude... take your head out of ur ass, I haven't once sold items for real money. The extreme thing that I might do when I leave a server is to simply drop everything in giran XD wtf is that idea of me selling shit for real money, its not the first time I heard it --'
i never buy items dude i leave server time ago D:! since SaM strike ! =)
Quote from: abusinG on May 24, 2017, 09:50:59 AM
i never buy items dude i leave server time ago D:! since SaM strike ! =)
I didn't say you did, I'm telling I didn't sell sh1t because you acused me of it lol. I was being sarcastic, u really think I sold my valakas for 0,50â,¬ ? XD