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[Clonage]

+1 for cleanseable hero skills

How about 1 cleansable and the other not

[Peorexo]

?

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,290182.msg2488579.html#msg2488579
Ring a bell?

On interlude i played lately hero skills were cleansable and they still were powerfull.

[Jardiro]

i dont really know what it has to cleansing hero debuffs.
for me its sure thing to not allow hero debuffs in event like this

[stanko]

As Track wanted. Only DMG with Backstabe
1. TH +30 backstabe fire +150 fire damage att

80 fire resist ==== >http://imgur.com/a/zFqDU
140 fire resist ====> http://imgur.com/a/2GPql

Only 1 part draco 7lvl att

2. WR+0 skill +0 att

with CW ===> http://imgur.com/a/l7gaF
w/o CW ===> http://imgur.com/a/U10uf

Ok as I've promised to my friend rusal:


PS: Inventory opened, buffs shown XD

[Garro]

If u will make hero skills cleansable then what next excuse will you say when u will loose against us? You should keep something to cry about in the future.

[Peorexo]

If u will make hero skills cleansable then what next excuse will you say when u will loose against us? You should keep something to cry about in the future.

So this year you are actually planning to win atleast once againts us ?

[Garro]

So this year you are actually planning to win atleast once againts us ?

It depends how many dupers u gonna have this time 

[Moah]

Jeez stop trying to get results from end game daggers.... Theres no better char than an end game dagger in every chronicle untill high five.

Critical Damage multiplier from:

SA crit dmg (Icarus adds almost 1k and its not STATIC)
Crit dmg Passive something like 10%? (Abyss Walker has plus 5% than other daggers)
AQ 15%
Baium 15%
Focus Death (90%) /Power (60%?) from behind
Skills++ (At least 10% more if u enchant crit power and some other bullsh1t i dont remember)
Death Whisper 35%
Cov 20%
Cat buff 25%
Fire dance 35%

This is what makes and end game dagger so overpowered because for sure they will and MUST oneshot robe+light users!

If you think they dont, check some official videos from Cadmus GF for example where u see full stacked mages (worth smth like 5k euros) getting droped by 1 end game dagger back stab

And tests with dynasty+icarus are completly stupid since u must wait months till u get it.

[Picksy]

You're getting off-topic again guys. Quick reminder :

Thank you all for for kind suggestions, however this is not strong char on demand kind of topic. More or less Hellraiser was balanced server, but we will try to make it more attractive (but still reasonably balanced) to play with some other combos as well.

Please do not quote nor reply to this message unless you have new logical proposal related to the subject of this topic. We already have an issue to follow everything.

Thanks!

PS: Sorry for quoting 

[Neliel]

Since i have already left Dragons Jail ( Thx guys i appreciate the second chance LOL ) i will make some points connected with ACTUAL new server (and a bit of punches to the head coz u all suck Kappa)

1. Archers are MORE than fine with this new enchant route on Real Target ( as Trick/Db i have reached to 2,5k to mage/tank classes / around 3-7k to not tank classes , and more than 1k to dagger/tank in heavy armors which is considerably high amount, and i wont mention how much i did to Rusal coz its pointless dear Eon ) I was using only Hex/Vtemper + Real Target , right now when Trickster reaches his 1 skill to +30 it automatically boost his damage by 99 % but the bitch aint one. And class like this has TRUST ME so much ultility to fight with mage or any other fighter or mage (Sword Shield Prahnah , Soul Barrier Ultimate Escape and more like Warp Disarm if any1 gets near it and bla bla bla. There are more players with such class on Beta and they will AGREE with me if they have some of honor and brain . And remember that there are few archers which will deal higher dmg compared to Trick to non Tank Chars.

2. There is only 1 problem , that everyone is playing right now th/pal or other pretty good dagger combos , while on live there wont be more than max 2 parties where u can find few i repeat FEW "competetive" daggers. I heard that on the last beta it looked exactly the same , many of players made daggers and then in name of Jesus there were maybe 3 characters on live HR who you would be "scared of" , the rest were a total joke , w/o fully enchanted skills less than 1 % of this community is able to fight as dagger with a succes. EVERY1 WILL AGREE. And i dont consider this as a problem , but it makes a problem for community , every time u log in you see people barking about lethals , face stabs lethaling to 1 hp etc , when in proper conditions 99% of this players will not get near their target BELIEVE ME. For the time of Beta u could remove lethals to 1 hp maybe ppl will actually consider making their real chars

3. Hero skills are fine for me and imo they should be untouched , but i will not fight for it .They can be cleanseable or not. NOt that improtant thing , maybe for forum warriors for their next argument in this pointless discussion. Both arguments have their background , if you became a hero it means u were fighting from the beginning for ur status , or u got fed xD. Making them cleanseable will not be a problem bcoz it  will still take some time to cleanse it from important targets firstly. In 3v3 / 5v5 9v9 events in my not honest opinion i would not allow to use it, maybe then more ppl will participate in it. (and make 2v2 coz me and my friend need free rewards PLZ ! )

4. You could add a pvp zone in every Epic Boss OFC , think about 14th Floor Vortex and the mass of ppl who need to touch foot of baium , not letting the real kung fu fighters fight with clean head. Its about waking up Baium while the 2-3 i HOPE 10 sides are fighting on 14th 13 and 10th floor . It s about your community , they will leave after crying that any side pk them before entering. There is nothing wrong in letting them make the quest by touching Baium or any other way , but once u will fail bcoz of the randoms (like me :DDD) the bloodlust in next Baiums respawn will be way more insatiable. If only you could have a normal combat zone since the beginning , not attacking with allies etc.

/off
5. The best part for every1 who stayed with this text to the end . Peorexo and Garro go the bathroom and there u can compare your E-ducks and let the discussion go in the right direction. Both of ur clans lost many and won many of fights , with flawless fashion or liters of blood left on the battlefield , with hero skills or pure zerg. Right now let ur wet dreams be dreams, and stop making this thread another Excidium vs Fear topic , with Retarded CP waiting for backstabing some1.

RIP my London speak

[mruwqa]

streaming w/o opening date is pointless.  what am I supposted to say to people :DD  they are logging asking and going out since they have no clu whats ging on