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Started by Zefy, October 08, 2016, 08:31:20 AM

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Zefy

How you can play archers vs any mage/tank if you hit shield and did 900 dmg?
Please explain, i donk know how.
Is not a flame topic, i'm new and i don'k know how play archers here with this substack system. I need a good substack for saggi, silver ranger and phantom ranger that help me to make dmg. If you know something just answer, thx a lot.  ;)

Easley

Quote from: Zefy on October 08, 2016, 08:31:20 AM
How you can play archers vs any mage/tank if you hit shield and did 900 dmg?
Please explain, i donk know how.
Is not a flame topic, i'm new and i don'k know how play archers here with this substack system. I need a good substack for saggi, silver ranger and phantom ranger that help me to make dmg. If you know something just answer, thx a lot.  ;)
By having a trickster in your party and using the skill "Real target" (Decreases Bow Resistance by 24% and Crossbow Resistance by 40% and also -30% p.def when max enchanted)
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Zefy

Ye i know it, i need some tips about the substack, i good combination for any archers for solo pvp and party pvp. Thx a lot

Easley

Quote from: Zefy on October 08, 2016, 08:45:47 AM
Ye i know it, i need some tips about the substack, i good combination for any archers for solo pvp and party pvp. Thx a lot
Well hard to say what you need when we don't know how your party gonna be like :P My personal favourite is Saggi/Dreadnought tbh just coz of the extra attack speed, self heals, good pvp and pve skills and the ability to farm with pole :) It's a very "selfish" char though, since you need full supports for it! Try them all on the Beta that is open right now and find your favourite one :)
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Morel

Nice that instead of saying "You know nothing, everything is working wrong" you are asking questions :>

I hope that you know : Archers in HB =/= Archers in IL
No more F1 > F1 > next target > F1 >  F1 > next target. RIP SS2 gameplay ;*

As Admiral said, you need to work with debuffs Real target/Violent Temper/Hex/Block shield.

HE/WL - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but great DD
HE/WK - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but cat for party + TP, not sure about cubic anchor landing rate
PR/PS - cubics OP + TP
TRICK/BERK - very good DD + great debuffs
TRICK/SLH - good dd + great debuffs

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Quote from: Morel on October 08, 2016, 11:38:37 AM
Nice that instead of saying "You know nothing, everything is working wrong" you are asking questions :>

I hope that you know : Archers in HB =/= Archers in IL
No more F1 > F1 > next target > F1 >  F1 > next target. RIP SS2 gameplay ;*

As Admiral said, you need to work with debuffs Real target/Violent Temper/Hex/Block shield.

HE/WL - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but great DD
HE/WK - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but cat for party + TP, not sure about cubic anchor landing rate
PR/PS - cubics OP + TP
TRICK/BERK - very good DD + great debuffs
TRICK/SLH - good dd + great debuffs
Thank you for helping new players, thanks to easly as well. Topics like this should motivate others to do same, because they teach less skilled players how to become better enemy which eventually leads to better and longer pvps.

Once again +1
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Quote from: Morel on October 08, 2016, 11:38:37 AM

HE/WL - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but great DD

stuns bro :)

Good party setup + debuffs, thats what you need.
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Neliel

Quote from: Zefy on October 08, 2016, 08:31:20 AM
How you can play archers vs any mage/tank if you hit shield and did 900 dmg?
Please explain, i donk know how.
Is not a flame topic, i'm new and i don'k know how play archers here with this substack system. I need a good substack for saggi, silver ranger and phantom ranger that help me to make dmg. If you know something just answer, thx a lot.  ;)

How to become a real nigga in 4 simple steps:
1. Assist :D (target non tank classes , so u will make them feel ur big arrow )
2. Debuffs (Real Targeto 24/40 -30 pdef , ur dmg will be multiplied by 2 (NO JOKE) , hex/v temper -23 pdef / block shield (OP SKILLS PLS REMOVE) , u wont have crit wound in archer pt but u can still take advantage from schock blast -30 pdef (WL skill :) , enchant it and have fun O.o )
3. Keep ur distance as long as u can (nuke rage 900 , after 78 u have 950 with bow (Archery) , get rogue ability long shot for additional 100 , maybe there is smth more but i think in hb it ends on archers will +50) So u have 200 range advantage.
4. Steal few bikes from any mage on server.

Make trick/slh -> steal buffs from ur box characters -> enjoy raping skills. ( Fock every retard who is doing it on beta :* )

3* Bubble also increases ur range but u have to be in it , very very very very situational

Zefy

Thx you all for your tips, i tried WL-HW, there is a difference if i start WL and not HW? I like dynasty heavy weapon master.

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Quote from: Zefy on October 08, 2016, 12:57:49 PM
Thx you all for your tips, i tried WL-HW, there is a difference if i start WL and not HW? I like dynasty heavy weapon master.
You should also read this article:

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,292360.0.html
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Quote from: Morel on October 08, 2016, 11:38:37 AM
Nice that instead of saying "You know nothing, everything is working wrong" you are asking questions :>

I hope that you know : Archers in HB =/= Archers in IL
No more F1 > F1 > next target > F1 >  F1 > next target. RIP SS2 gameplay ;*

As Admiral said, you need to work with debuffs Real target/Violent Temper/Hex/Block shield.

HE/WL - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but great DD
HE/WK - not for solo (lack of debuffs) but cat for party + TP, not sure about cubic anchor landing rate
PR/PS - cubics OP + TP

TRICK/BERK - very good DD + great debuffs
TRICK/SLH - good dd + great debuffs

Dont even think about doing any archer/summoner. They have no real benifit from the sub besides TP. Phantom cubic is cool but it acts random, applies 1 of its 3 debuffs randomly. SE/PS is much better or PR/SK that actually gains crit dmg from pain of shilen.

If you're going to play with 2 more friend and each one is going to box a buffer i would say your best options are:


-HE/WL <- Probably the most "balanced" between PvE and PvP.
or
-HE/Glad <- PvP Oriented.

-SWS/SR <- This is more like a support class(Counter rapid shot).

-Trick/Zerker <- Enabler

Buffers:
BP/WK
WC/OL
BD/SE

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Zefy

Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on October 08, 2016, 01:00:36 PM
You should also read this article:

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,292360.0.html
You can switch between them, the option to switch is very precious in case you want to choose your another class for being Hero on it means you can choose between your two classes on which you want to be a Hero just meet Astral to switch.

I have 2 question.
I can be hero with 2 class or only 1?
Better enchant skills with element or power?
Thx you.