Web Analytics
aBOUT M.CRIT AGAIN ;P - Page 8

News:


     

Main Menu

aBOUT M.CRIT AGAIN ;P

Started by Ozukyz, April 29, 2009, 01:54:31 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Ozukyz

Quote from: seboulba on May 02, 2009, 11:11:47 AM
wait for HB :D that why i didnt made any subclass actualy :)

i have 4 chars with horns  also ;)
[URL=http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/heroes/199546525]Player profile at BattlefieldHeroes.com, Free Shooter Game[/URL]

seboulba

Quote from: Ozukyz on May 02, 2009, 12:53:24 PM
i have 4 chars with horns  also ;)
we speak about ur 3 retail malaka not subDN :D
nm30X
EvilBunnies

Devil

Quote from: Ozukyz on April 29, 2009, 01:54:31 PM
ok as we all know m.crit rate is  caped on 40%   this  40% rate can be reached only by mage ho have valakas( wich is like 5% of all mages in game?) and wm augment . So the newbie mage w/o valakas max m.crit chance is like ~20%
wich is way too low comparing with archer ho ALL can reach 450-500crit( 40-50%).

so i think u should increase newbie mages m.crit rate so they could kill some1 in pvp ;p buth this is only my idea ..meybe im misssing smth ..so comment  ;p


concern 2 things:

1.) (if i'm not wrong ofc), archers with 500 critrate got 50% chance to make a critical hit.

2.) a nuke from a mage hits you for 100%, but you can avoid an arrow.

combining these two things:

50% max. crit-chance from fighters and 40% max. crit-rate for magecrits is pretty fair concerning a mage hits for 100% while a fighter's attack can be avoided.

(ofc there is the "resisted .....'s magic" but, there is also sth called perfect shield block. so it makes it all equal imo).


(havent read any further comment, so blame me for double posting).

Ozukyz

Quote from: Devil on May 05, 2009, 04:28:19 PM
concern 2 things:

1.) (if i'm not wrong ofc), archers with 500 critrate got 50% chance to make a critical hit.

2.) a nuke from a mage hits you for 100%, but you can avoid an arrow.

combining these two things:

50% max. crit-chance from fighters and 40% max. crit-rate for magecrits is pretty fair concerning a mage hits for 100% while a fighter's attack can be avoided.

(ofc there is the "resisted .....'s magic" but, there is also sth called perfect shield block. so it makes it all equal imo).


(havent read any further comment, so blame me for double posting).

try look from mages, ho dont have valakas, side : ..u hit for 600,600 ,600 ,600 ,600,600 boom archer hits u for  400. 4k .4k .400 .4k

archers need  to buy only bow+f (db+f+7=45coins)to have  full crit rate ..for mages ~500coins ;p(augment , valakas)
[URL=http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/heroes/199546525]Player profile at BattlefieldHeroes.com, Free Shooter Game[/URL]

lucifsg

noone here can admit that archers are overpowered vs mages ? what for would they need resist buffs since they can just kite on any mage having 500 crit rate .

thats why 70% of server reroll to archer ftw .. and everyone here backing up archers is archer himself..
<char>
  <name>lucifsg</name>
  <level>85</level>
  <class>Soultaker</class>
  <clan>BrokenAngelz</clan>
  <olympiads_won>70</olympiads_won>

TomekAlmighty

#89
Oh this discusion can go on forever:

But yea, actually archer needs qa,baium,draco+f and can crit for more than 4x dammage (5x, 6x) than normal hit with 1k attack speed (some less and sr can even reach 1500 or more attack speed but will have only 600 range), but they have low casting speed for rezzing each other and giving the nobless buff. Archers can also have more HP/CP and can have a 50% chance of criting and have more range than mages.

For a mage you need a valakas, am+a and a wm augment and you hit for 4x normal dammage you attack faster and you also have debuffs. The party can rez eachother much faster. You can also sub your mage to a tank class and the archer is gonna crit you for 1.5k max.

So its much easier for archers to pwn than for mages, but maybe Hellbound will make it more balanced with the song against bow attacks, and warcryers chant of protection... (dunno if the dance against bow attacks is worth buffing on mages cuz it decreases m.attack alot)
[URL=http://imageshack.us][/URL]
KingBishop, TomekCritz, TomekAlmighty, YoMama
Quote from: Blondy on November 18, 2007, 07:15:25 PM
you will never be better as you are now ... , you reached the "best point"

lucifsg

song againts bow ??? wtf is this ?
TELL ME MORE !!!!!!!

ps im one of the guys that didnt reroll to a pwnage class (he/xx pal/ty etc..) and kept going as ne/pp so i want payback in hb ! hope i ll get boosted a bit )
<char>
  <name>lucifsg</name>
  <level>85</level>
  <class>Soultaker</class>
  <clan>BrokenAngelz</clan>
  <olympiads_won>70</olympiads_won>

Gunit

Quote from: lucifsg on May 05, 2009, 11:15:05 PM
song againts bow ??? wtf is this ?
TELL ME MORE !!!!!!!

ps im one of the guys that didnt reroll to a pwnage class (he/xx pal/ty etc..) and kept going as ne/pp so i want payback in hb ! hope i ll get boosted a bit )

"A song/dance skill that raises resistance to bows has been added. These skills are acquired at level 75.

Sword Muse

    * Song of Windstorm: Increases party members’ resistance to bow attacks.


Spectral Dancer

    * Dance of Blade Storm: Greatly incrases party members’ resistances to bow attacks and decreases M. Atk."

http://www.lineage2.com/news/hellbound_04.html
[url=http://aioncard.com/profile/na/2/Herege][/url]

TomekAlmighty

Quote from: lucifsg on May 05, 2009, 11:15:05 PM
song againts bow ??? wtf is this ?
TELL ME MORE !!!!!!!

ps im one of the guys that didnt reroll to a pwnage class (he/xx pal/ty etc..) and kept going as ne/pp so i want payback in hb ! hope i ll get boosted a bit )

And chant of protection that reduces the dammage that people do to you with critical hits  ;)
[URL=http://imageshack.us][/URL]
KingBishop, TomekCritz, TomekAlmighty, YoMama
Quote from: Blondy on November 18, 2007, 07:15:25 PM
you will never be better as you are now ... , you reached the "best point"

Ozukyz

Quote from: Gunit on May 05, 2009, 11:55:20 PM
"A song/dance skill that raises resistance to bows has been added. These skills are acquired at level 75.

Sword Muse

    * Song of Windstorm: Increases party members’ resistance to bow attacks.


Spectral Dancer

    * Dance of Blade Storm: Greatly incrases party members’ resistances to bow attacks and decreases M. Atk."

http://www.lineage2.com/news/hellbound_04.html


Protection of Rune: Increases M. Def.

Protection of Elemental: Increases resistance to elemental attacks

Protection of Alignment: Increases resistance to Holy and Dark attacks
[URL=http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/heroes/199546525]Player profile at BattlefieldHeroes.com, Free Shooter Game[/URL]

TomekAlmighty

Quote from: Ozukyz on May 06, 2009, 07:34:18 AM

Protection of Rune: Increases M. Def.

Protection of Elemental: Increases resistance to elemental attacks

Protection of Alignment: Increases resistance to Holy and Dark attacks

Yep, its a trigger skill that gives you +1k m.def for some seconds  ;)
[URL=http://imageshack.us][/URL]
KingBishop, TomekCritz, TomekAlmighty, YoMama
Quote from: Blondy on November 18, 2007, 07:15:25 PM
you will never be better as you are now ... , you reached the "best point"

Endorama

lol at u guys.every1 of u that is being on the mages side is having valakas,augments,dyn set and so on and u keep complaining,but what for?the fact that a pr/xx which is the biggest crit dealer has less than 900 atk.speed(my pr/ol had ~803 with dyn light,if i remember well),and even so lately i dun remember criting some1 for more than 3k(i always play with dead eye and my p atk on full buffs is a bit less than 6k with the biggest crit power) but hold on a sec these 3k crits r given with 766 atk speed and what about the mage nukes that i am getting from each 1 of u that r crying bout archers being op,the dmg i resieve from u is usually 3k,4k,5k(depends on the debuffs and stuff) but hold on a sec u r casting ur spell at least x2 times faster than i can hit u + u've got every buff that increases shield power/chance and u can block like 3 of 10 arrows,from these 7 arrows there aint gonna be more than 5 crits,but by the time i've shot 10 arrows u would have mcrited me like 10 times.and now u'll say that there r archers that shoot faster,ye but their crit power is less or their range,u'll say that there are archers with 3k+ m,def,yep thats right,but what do u expect from a archer/tank(or semi tank).and as tomek already said,we can res each other way slower and our nobles is casted way slower than urs.
Grave aka Pigs aka GONE