Newbie TY/DE LooKinG for TIPS

[HeroCraft]

Hi EveryOne !
Finally i made my own TY/DE 
For some reason i was always impressed about this char,but when i used to have a chance to make it...i made DE/WC
Anyways....i discovered,that i absolutely have no idea how to play this char,coz i'm totally get lost with Tyrant's skills...
Would you guys please explain to me how to use DE/TY properly?
What skills stock with other skills?Weapon requairements?In what order and with what weapon use skills...etc.

Thank You SO MUCH 

[Kikolina]

ok so lets get started

weapon requirements:
high grade 2h blunt
high grade 2h sword
high grade claws
high grade spear
homu+convr
chakram (c grade fist) + rsk haste

lowering hp: take in ur hand homu+convr, it will decrease ur hp for 40%, to turn on frenzy zealot and stuff like that u need 30%

now there are three ways to lower:
- spear + earthquaking
- chakram+puma+fist fury+raging force
- blunt +  armor crush / crush of doom
however last two requires a target u can hit

so once u are at <30% u want to turn on skills with highest atk speed u want so u will have the lessest refill

so put in ur hand chakram +rsk haste, turn on puma, fist fury - now u got the highest atk speed u can

my way of turning skills on is zealot, rage, frenzy, because zealot increases atk speed,  the skills turned on after will have even faster refill, rage can be turned on before either since it has small refill even on self buffs

so after u have done that, turn on bizon and if u are still under 30% with a single target put in ur hands 2h blunt and start hit =)
blunt is designed to have lower crit chance, bigger crits on zealot, since under 30% crit rate is 500, its a more racional choice
once zealot finishes u should put in ur hands 2h sword, since the crit dmg will be same, just the critical rate increases cos of a sword

if u re facing more mobs / enemies at once u should just change the dha with a spear and kill with it

in pvp usually being on 30% with all turned on, everyone is one hit, however if u re being kited and cant come close enough to hit with dha, try with high grade claws

now make a bar with skills just for this situation, it should look like this (dont take exactly this sequence, u should just have these at bar):
focused force, raging force, hurricane assault* (close range high power skill), force storm*, force blaster* ( i usually use these two together since force storm makes quite nice dmg and it doesnt decrease force, so right after force blaster which takes 1 (2?) forces( they re both 600 range skills)), break durres, cripple, soul breaker (this skill can stun u, but it has rly high power so its usefull if u know someone is injured already, and needs just one more hit and u re for example out of forces (this skill doesnt require them))
*try to use skill marked with star with lv 7 force, it ll make max dmg (not sure for hb , someone can confirm it?)

guts and broar, u should turn them on the same way u do frenzy zea ..

ok so thats it about skills

since hb, rabbit doesnt work in heavy anymore so i prefer to use light on ty de
only bizon works with other wpns so if u re under 60% try to be on it, else use ogre or rabbit (unless u re using claws & skills, with full hp i prefer hawk, u can also try puma and check which one u prefer )
if u want to avoid being kited with block wind walk / entangle/slow u got a nice skill riposte stance which relfects debuffs with a chance so its nice to have it near on the bar


edit, remembered on rbs  :
most rbs have 10% reflect dmg these days so u need to find a way to deal with it
if u have no boss jewelleries like antha and zaken, use double vr (se/wc one and dance)
u can regulate being on 30% with putting armor off
if u got antha / zaken, put them on bar and take 1 vr
now single vr gives about 9% effect, rb has 10% reflect, so now u re just putting on/off a boss jewel depends what hp u got, if u re above 30% put it off and ur hp will start decreasing, if u re under 15% put it on and ur hp will start increasing this is a guide not counting rb is hitting u, if its so, i usually use 2 vrs and rb with its hits keeps me on 30%:P if not u can always put off armor

ask if u need more infos

[xxGEBELSxx]

so after u have done that, turn on bizon and if u are still under 30% with a single target put in ur hands 2h blunt and start hit =)
blunt is designed to have lower crit chance, bigger crits on zealot, since under 30% crit rate is 500, its a more racional choice
once zealot finishes u should put in ur hands 2h sword, since the crit dmg will be same, just the critical rate increases cos of a sword

Since when u can reach more then 500 crit rate?
zealot don't give crit rate on blunt weapon, so crit rate with and without zealot is the same, so no point to change weapon.

[HeroCraft]

Kikolina....man i <3 YOU
Thx for such a good explanation,i will try all of this on Cabrio and will practicing till i will kill him
one question...i dont have good blunt,so can i keep using my Dragon slayer+18+hp as main weapon?
i mean how much less dmg i will deal compare to blunt?one more time thx thx thx  

P.S. so far i got zaken,maybe in few centuries i will collect for antharas

[HeroCraft]

Almost forget to ask you,what buffs/songs/dances are preferable for RB hunting/PvP
And can u clear one thing:what armor/set in your opinion fit TY/DE the best?
I got DN Hvy Set,DS+18+HP,zaken/baium/aq

Is there anything else i should try to get?....i though 3 years of being no lifer with my spoil/sk was enough lol

[Kikolina]

Almost forget to ask you,what buffs/songs/dances are preferable for RB hunting/PvP
And can u clear one thing:what armor/set in your opinion fit TY/DE the best?
I got DN Hvy Set,DS+18+HP,zaken/baium/aq

Is there anything else i should try to get?....i though 3 years of being no lifer with my spoil/sk was enough lol

well u can take all for everything since we got 32 buff slots on dn.. more specificly, for pvping as much resists as u can, improves, focus/hunter is not really needed if u can keep urself under 30%.. renewal champion is usually great to have, with flu lv 4 almost perma zealot.. what to say, normal fighter buffs..

ah and in pvp, its not nice to have any VR / zaken/ antha on u cos after 1st hit on a player ur hp will jump on 60%+

well in hb i prefer light sets since rabbit is fuked in heavy and i was always more a c speed/ atk speed fan than a p atk/m atk..
now that i see ur rich, maybe at first lend a DHA from a friend and compare dmg between ur ds and it, after that decide what u prefer
i cant tell u directly from head which is better cos on infi i never faced an oe dha/hd

[HeroCraft]

Hmmm i check rabbit and it seems like it works in heavy....maybe it just dont give 100% benefits of this totem
P.S. what SA preferable for fists?

[PoToSi]

Hmmm i check rabbit and it seems like it works in heavy....maybe it just dont give 100% benefits of this totem
P.S. what SA preferable for fists?

Critical Stun or Health. Depends on which situation you're thinking to use it. Above 30% hp, Health, under 30%, Critical stun.

[Futile]

on full buffs + right settings on zealot bison frenzy
u will deal with +3 DHA more damage then with a +20 Dragon slayer.
thats how much difference a blunt is compared to a sword, when u go for maximum damage per minute.

if u want to farm with a tyr/des (and u wont be doing anything else.) You must go two-handed blunt.


Fists are usually not your top choice weapon for your tyr/des. some people use fists for pvp, but for farming u shall stick to your blunt.

[HeroCraft]

GUGE THX to EVERYONE who comment this topic,it really helps.

on full buffs + right settings on zealot bison frenzy
u will deal with +3 DHA more damage then with a +20 Dragon slayer.
thats how much difference a blunt is compared to a sword, when u go for maximum damage per minute.

if u want to farm with a tyr/des (and u wont be doing anything else.) You must go two-handed blunt.


Fists are usually not your top choice weapon for your tyr/des. some people use fists for pvp, but for farming u shall stick to your blunt.

Well see my problem is:im die hard fan of Dragon Slayer,coz imo it best looking 2h sword in L2 world .Sound kinda pathetic,but i really care how my char looks like,rather then being PvP pro machine ^.^

[HeroCraft]

well u can take all for everything since we got 32 buff slots on dn.. more specificly, for pvping as much resists as u can, improves, focus/hunter is not really needed if u can keep urself under 30%.. renewal champion is usually great to have, with flu lv 4 almost perma zealot.. what to say, normal fighter buffs..

ah and in pvp, its not nice to have any VR / zaken/ antha on u cos after 1st hit on a player ur hp will jump on 60%+

well in hb i prefer light sets since rabbit is fuked in heavy and i was always more a c speed/ atk speed fan than a p atk/m atk..
now that i see ur rich, maybe at first lend a DHA from a friend and compare dmg between ur ds and it, after that decide what u prefer
i cant tell u directly from head which is better cos on infi i never faced an oe dha/hd

Can u please explain what is that?....flu

[PoToSi]

GUGE THX to EVERYONE who comment this topic,it really helps.

Well see my problem is:im die hard fan of Dragon Slayer,coz imo it best looking 2h sword in L2 world .Sound kinda pathetic,but i really care how my char looks like,rather then being PvP pro machine ^.^

You really should try the damage of a DHA on zealot, look doesn't mind at all when you do a lot more damage xD

Can u please explain what is that?....flu

Hot Springs flu is a debuff (actually it's a buff lol) taken in Hot Springs. It's similar to Hot Springs malaria, that increases cast speed, this one increases Attack Speed.