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Started by wildpussy, October 24, 2009, 12:59:34 AM

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wildpussy

hello track,
with this buff bar you made nearly all the cool new skills useless

for what we have stupid things like protection of rune, protection of alignment, counter dash, eva's will etc etc
and many many other self buffs, if we can hardly put inside the -better- normal buffs?

for example, song of windstorm - 50% archery resist, deflect arrow - 40%
now for what make tanker class? have a self buff which is not really usable couse of buff slot limit, and a normal all-can-have-it buff is better!

so my idea, if it's possible to make another (3rd) bar which would contain some buffs, for example, all self buffs (maybe max 6 if you think is too much to have many of them  ::) )
or well any fix would be welcome, anyway tell me who is even happy with this new update regarding buff slots?

horass

http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,203537.0.html

go there and make copy/paste please
at least u have a point, but we dont need to make 10000 topics.

muahahahahahahaha

our4n0s

Quote from: wildpussy on October 24, 2009, 12:59:34 AM

or well any fix would be welcome, anyway tell me who is even happy with this new update regarding buff slots?
me, even if i could use 2-3 more slo :d
retired

flamingAwe

moving "self buffs" to additional buff bar will give huge advantage to those who has those "self buffs"
i think could be good to move pots to additional buff bar(to heals)
and make addtional buff bar(where only songs/ dances can move in case of overbuff) proportional to divine inspiration level

andreas32

or just make
2 baar for normal buffs+self+pots like p atk,chp,resist,regen.
1bar for dance/songs=12 dance/songs overall
1baar for debuffs
1baar for mana-healing pots.....
It's the way it should be.
Re track...kane kati re man xD

milan78s

Quote from: sany on October 24, 2009, 05:52:12 PM
there is 5 kind of mage classes sorc, necro, sh, sps,ol and for each one you have its own resist, when against 3 archer classes u have 2 resists(and one against all fighters) That cover all 3 classes coz all 3, use arrows, So to get ~80% reduction against all mage classes like mages get against all archer’s classes you need to buff

Element protection 30% against fire 20% against water, wind and earth.
Element song 30% against fire 20% against water, wind and earth.
Song of flame guard or resist fire 30% fire resist.
Dance of aqua guard or resist water 30% water resist.
Song of storm guard or resist wind 30% wind resist
Then u get 90% fire resist and 70 % wind water resist of course if u take only 3 buffs from here and lets not forget necro and overlord class
Divine protection 30% dark attacks resist
Resist unholy 30% dark attacks resist
Song of invocation 20% dark attack resist
Here u get 80% resist against necros
Overlord (drains) don’t have resists at a moment (tried all resists)

Count how many resists u need against 4 mage class to get ~80% resist
8 buffs of resist to cover all mage classes and u need only 2 buffs of resist to cover 3 archer classes to get to ~80% resist.
Its important to mention that with chant of protection u cover all fighter classes and get reduction of 40% from critical attacks there is no resist like that, that exist against all mages.
*
WHY WHY WHY  :P  :P  :P  :P

Ashlynn

Quote from: sany on October 24, 2009, 05:52:12 PM
there is 5 kind of mage classes sorc, necro, sh, sps,ol and for each one you have its own resist, when against 3 archer classes u have 2 resists(and one against all fighters) That cover all 3 classes coz all 3, use arrows, So to get ~80% reduction against all mage classes like mages get against all archer’s classes you need to buff

Element protection 30% against fire 20% against water, wind and earth.
Element song 30% against fire 20% against water, wind and earth.
Song of flame guard or resist fire 30% fire resist.
Dance of aqua guard or resist water 30% water resist.
Song of storm guard or resist wind 30% wind resist
Then u get 90% fire resist and 70 % wind water resist of course if u take only 3 buffs from here and lets not forget necro and overlord class
Divine protection 30% dark attacks resist
Resist unholy 30% dark attacks resist
Song of invocation 20% dark attack resist
Here u get 80% resist against necros
Overlord (drains) don’t have resists at a moment (tried all resists)

Count how many resists u need against 4 mage class to get ~80% resist
8 buffs of resist to cover all mage classes and u need only 2 buffs of resist to cover 3 archer classes to get to ~80% resist.
Its important to mention that with chant of protection u cover all fighter classes and get reduction of 40% from critical attacks there is no resist like that, that exist against all mages.
*
and where are Resist Wind, Resist Aqua, Resist Fire? :)

Ahslynn - TH/WK | toxii - HE/GL

Ret ard ired



Alex

Quote from: sany on October 24, 2009, 05:52:12 PM
there is 5 kind of mage classes sorc, necro, sh, sps,ol and for each one you have its own resist, when against 3 archer classes u have 2 resists(and one against all fighters) That cover all 3 classes coz all 3, use arrows, So to get ~80% reduction against all mage classes like mages get against all archer’s classes you need to buff

Element protection 30% against fire 20% against water, wind and earth.
Element song 30% against fire 20% against water, wind and earth.
Song of flame guard or resist fire 30% fire resist.
Dance of aqua guard or resist water 30% water resist.
Song of storm guard or resist wind 30% wind resist
Then u get 90% fire resist and 70 % wind water resist of course if u take only 3 buffs from here and lets not forget necro and overlord class
Divine protection 30% dark attacks resist
Resist unholy 30% dark attacks resist
Song of invocation 20% dark attack resist
Here u get 80% resist against necros
Overlord (drains) don’t have resists at a moment (tried all resists)

Count how many resists u need against 4 mage class to get ~80% resist
8 buffs of resist to cover all mage classes and u need only 2 buffs of resist to cover 3 archer classes to get to ~80% resist.
Its important to mention that with chant of protection u cover all fighter classes and get reduction of 40% from critical attacks there is no resist like that, that exist against all mages.
*

u forgot to add 3 holy resist buffs. if SPS isnt a complete retard he will hit u with light vortex or solar flare too
ShowStopper having a break from hard GM work:



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Futile

Quote from: horass on October 24, 2009, 01:06:32 AM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,203537.0.html

go there and make copy/paste please
at least u have a point, but we dont need to make 10000 topics.

we need to make 20000 topics, because every and each one of us has a point.

if u are fine with the buffslots: means u are in a bad clan, u dont pvp or u die a lot!

i feel reluctant to admit it, but in this case many complains are justified.

hence multiple disapproval topics might achieve, that we get out old buffslots back.

notice, that nobody was complaining public about the buffslots + dance/song buff slots.

this is something that happened private, either to a mistake or due to a protest of somebody who can manipulate drakes decisions.

kang

Quote from: Futile on October 25, 2009, 10:56:25 AM
we need to make 20000 topics, because every and each one of us has a point.

if u are fine with the buffslots: means u are in a bad clan, u dont pvp or u die a lot!

i feel reluctant to admit it, but in this case many complains are justified.

hence multiple disapproval topics might achieve, that we get out old buffslots back.

notice, that nobody was complaining public about the buffslots + dance/song buff slots.

this is something that happened private, either to a mistake or due to a protest of somebody who can manipulate drakes decisions.
i think they changed extender or smth like that (to fix enchants), and readding buff slots is a problem on this one probably. just as simple as that

rapinski

yeh this buff bar sucks and the funny part, if u got gloom or any surrender = overbuffs or any other kind of debuffs.  ::)
Disturbed Sk/PS---->Retired
ikki PP/Th----> Retired
Kindleoric Pal/Des--> Retired

Shreed

Quote from: sany on October 24, 2009, 05:52:12 PM
there is 5 kind of mage classes sorc, necro, sh, sps,ol and for each one you have its own resist, when against 3 archer classes u have 2 resists(and one against all fighters) That cover all 3 classes coz all 3, use arrows, So to get ~80% reduction against all mage classes like mages get against all archer’s classes you need to buff

Element protection 30% against fire 20% against water, wind and earth.
Element song 30% against fire 20% against water, wind and earth.
Song of flame guard or resist fire 30% fire resist.
Dance of aqua guard or resist water 30% water resist.
Song of storm guard or resist wind 30% wind resist
Then u get 90% fire resist and 70 % wind water resist of course if u take only 3 buffs from here and lets not forget necro and overlord class
Divine protection 30% dark attacks resist
Resist unholy 30% dark attacks resist
Song of invocation 20% dark attack resist
Here u get 80% resist against necros
Overlord (drains) don’t have resists at a moment (tried all resists)

Count how many resists u need against 4 mage class to get ~80% resist
8 buffs of resist to cover all mage classes and u need only 2 buffs of resist to cover 3 archer classes to get to ~80% resist.
Its important to mention that with chant of protection u cover all fighter classes and get reduction of 40% from critical attacks there is no resist like that, that exist against all mages.
*

Its Bullshi..... coz you need only 1 buff --> BladeStorm (which is instant right now). We tested and its taking only  -10% of m attack !
in stats its look like  -40% but in dmg its -10%  (but they have +18% boost) you dont need even to use windstorm (you will heve one free slot in NEW buff bar)

Please make song of warding -> +80% ressist for all mages attack and  -10%Physical attack