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Started by Sali, December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM

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Sali

 just an ideas:

-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick

ps: no its not a QQ topic
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Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:

-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick

ps: no its not a QQ topic

+1  ;)

endona

Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:

-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick

ps: no its not a QQ topic

yes it is

trooperXkoki

Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:

-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick

ps: no its not a QQ topic
+1 sali
Quote from: CTEBAH on December 10, 2009, 01:52:28 AM
+1  ;)
-1 kucko

or w/r i dnt care :P
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Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:

-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick

ps: no its not a QQ topic


Pls Pls dont be funy when Dagers start do smth on pvp poor archers start QQ omfg.

Dagger = many evasion(UE skill,passiv skills) vs archer its normal omg and if u cant hit them ask Yoda how he do it on my 180 evasion  :o

Track or Kain pls close this funy  Topic...
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Sali

Quote from: MisiekIII on December 10, 2009, 11:59:25 AM

Pls Pls dont be funy when Dagers start do smth on pvp poor archers start QQ omfg.

Dagger = many evasion(UE skill,passiv skills) vs archer its normal omg and if u cant hit them ask Yoda how he do it on my 180 evasion  :o

Track or Kain pls close this funy  Topic...
what is so funny? its only to prevent daggers to dominate server, daggers are not easy to play, sure but also they are a class that dont depends on stuff like archers so sooner or later w/o any change every1 will reroll to dagger. Also at topic, none of this sugestion is a huge nerf, just a small things that will balance it lil bit more. And tbh Misiek dont tell me daggers dont need any even small cuts after they get such a power up that none class ever get.
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Zippey

Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 03:24:22 PM
what is so funny? its only to prevent daggers to dominate server, daggers are not easy to play, sure but also they are a class that dont depends on stuff like archers so sooner or later w/o any change every1 will reroll to dagger. Also at topic, none of this sugestion is a huge nerf, just a small things that will balance it lil bit more. And tbh Misiek dont tell me daggers dont need any even small cuts after they get such a power up that none class ever get.

You mean like archers have done for long time!!!, Each time a class gets some power taken away from them and means they can't rape anything that moves we get QQ topic.
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Sali

so much hate around. No i dont want have immortal char, and as i pointed those are just a SMALL things that wont hardly affect daggers but will help to balance server
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Diver

lol another QQ poor archers they can't do dmg with icarus ;( it's so freaking sad. Oh no w8 it's not sad. Go donate more or bug your char again.....

Montana

Quote from: EDDIE666 on December 10, 2009, 04:21:19 PM
sry but rly stupid topic
n/c
haahhahahahaa OFC for DAGGER PLAYER is this topic RLY RLY RLY STUUUUPID  LOL


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