Dagger skills + attribute system

[WscieklyWaz]

Having dagger enchanted with same attribute as blows still doesnt give additional dmg from blow (150 p atk should give like 70%-80% more dmg from skill on target without ressist). Plz fix it. Actually daggers should be classes which get the biggest boost from attribute system and here this option still doesnt work.

Mages got boosted with attributes, archers got drasticly boosted with attributes, so  plz fix that matter with blow dmg and attributes.

(I make topic here cuz noone read "bug report sections").

[disc]

Yes the daggers are very weak now, they have rare lethals, no expose weakpoint, they can't kill rb-s alone with double vampiric, and they have 2 real enemy classes(what is bigger than 0)!

WTF is this? Racism? Make those poor daggers to kill 2 parties alone without buffs! dagger ftw

[WscieklyWaz]

Yes the daggers are very weak now, they have rare lethals, no expose weakpoint, they can't kill rb-s alone with double vampiric, and they have 2 real enemy classes(what is bigger than 0)!

WTF is this? Racism? Make those poor daggers to kill 2 parties alone without buffs! dagger ftw

Cry more, u get used to that dagger makes low dmg with blow, maybe its complex that a guy with such a short blade can do so much.
This is how it should be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZfzwkv1hR8

1 backstab = mage down bb
(sometimes even light armor user http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ClGdBsTNQ)

PS. daggers arent weak now, but in a wrong way. In mass pvp I dont even bother using blows cuz i make more dmg with melee attack and its much faster. They should bring back old p atk and make blow dmg bigger as it should be. Now dagger gameplay on dnet is nothing similar to the real dagger, its like archer but ur attack range isnt 900 but 40, just /nexttarget + /attack. Its now easy, but doesnt bring any fun. I dont think there is any1 who really like it.

[Kondra]

maybe its complex that a guy with such a short blade can do so much.

Bwahahahah +1 xD

[disc]

Cry more, u get used to that dagger makes low dmg with blow, maybe its complex that a guy with such a short blade can do so much.

Cry more? So you don't feel the irony in my post? BTW i don't care about how small is your blade

[reddragonjr]

Cry more, u get used to that dagger makes low dmg with blow, maybe its complex that a guy with such a short blade can do so much.
This is how it should be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZfzwkv1hR8

1 backstab = mage down bb
(sometimes even light armor user http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ClGdBsTNQ)

PS. daggers arent weak now, but in a wrong way. In mass pvp I dont even bother using blows cuz i make more dmg with melee attack and its much faster. They should bring back old p atk and make blow dmg bigger as it should be. Now dagger gameplay on dnet is nothing similar to the real dagger, its like archer but ur attack range isnt 900 but 40, just /nexttarget + /attack. Its now easy, but doesnt bring any fun. I dont think there is any1 who really like it.

+10

[zthrx]

thats why there is no reason to play with dagger here, still linemage. Cya maby in next chronicles

[Dadghamor]

Cry more, u get used to that dagger makes low dmg with blow, maybe its complex that a guy with such a short blade can do so much.
This is how it should be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZfzwkv1hR8

1 backstab = mage down bb
(sometimes even light armor user http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ClGdBsTNQ)

PS. daggers arent weak now, but in a wrong way. In mass pvp I dont even bother using blows cuz i make more dmg with melee attack and its much faster. They should bring back old p atk and make blow dmg bigger as it should be. Now dagger gameplay on dnet is nothing similar to the real dagger, its like archer but ur attack range isnt 900 but 40, just /nexttarget + /attack. Its now easy, but doesnt bring any fun. I dont think there is any1 who really like it.

The only thing i see in that video is a s grade dagger killing 2-3 bas equipped people.

[ataman]

Cry more, u get used to that dagger makes low dmg with blow, maybe its complex that a guy with such a short blade can do so much.
This is how it should be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZfzwkv1hR8

1 backstab = mage down bb
(sometimes even light armor user http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ClGdBsTNQ)

PS. daggers arent weak now, but in a wrong way. In mass pvp I dont even bother using blows cuz i make more dmg with melee attack and its much faster. They should bring back old p atk and make blow dmg bigger as it should be. Now dagger gameplay on dnet is nothing similar to the real dagger, its like archer but ur attack range isnt 900 but 40, just /nexttarget + /attack. Its now easy, but doesnt bring any fun. I dont think there is any1 who really like it.

+1000 !

GM should do something, cause whole network is now like archers vs mages arena, everyday is see same faces again and again, no new players, no new classes...
Boost daggers, glads, tyrants and kamael class with working atributes at skills !
Boost some forgotten chars like DA, TK, SE or Warlords... bring more fun into l2

[DaVinci]

actually the p atk boost of dagger has been removed, you guys didn't noticed? or can be my bad ^^

[thehunted]

Actually the main problem if daggers on this server is the FACT that daggers can't obtain more stab power by getting a better +++ weapon, while all enemy's can obtain more p.defence by getting better armor. This limits the power of daggers...

[WscieklyWaz]

Actually the main problem if daggers on this server is the FACT that daggers can't obtain more stab power by getting a better +++ weapon, while all enemy's can obtain more p.defence by getting better armor. This limits the power of daggers...

Not rly cuz they got dmg from good SA and attributes, on dnet dmg is like 2x less than it should be. Maybe fixing blows+attributes matter will solve the dmg. Anyway this community got used to blow dmg is +- 1k, which is total bulsh1t. I remebter one guy, he was a mage, on oly got 3,8k from backstab, and he told me im exploiter and wanted to post that on forum lol. He was so astonished about that 3,8k (which was ofc skill crit), while that is like low dmg backstab on robe and quite normal  on light armor @ offi sever.

Anyway lets wait and see how it will be when they manage to fix that blow+attribute dmg.