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Started by WscieklyWaz, December 29, 2009, 12:55:05 AM

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thehunted

Quote from: WscieklyWaz on December 30, 2009, 01:22:29 PM
Not rly cuz they got dmg from good SA and attributes, on dnet dmg is like 2x less than it should be. Maybe fixing blows+attributes matter will solve the dmg. Anyway this community got used to blow dmg is +- 1k, which is total bulsh1t. I remebter one guy, he was a mage, on oly got 3,8k from backstab, and he told me im exploiter and wanted to post that on forum lol. He was so astonished about that 3,8k (which was ofc skill crit), while that is like low dmg backstab on robe and quite normal  on light armor @ offi sever.

Anyway lets wait and see how it will be when they manage to fix that blow+attribute dmg.

....daggers on this server...
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Quote from: zthrx on December 30, 2009, 02:35:33 PM



I wanna C4 daggers powa back. Now every fakin mage has so much def + faking heal that its impossible to kill +2 mages at siege/mass pvp making 1k blows.

good old times when playin a dagger was enjoyable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W47fBDl20hE#t=04m15s
enjoyable ? lol! Being op is enjoyable for everyone, don't u think that current op chars are enjoyable too? lol!
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Quote from: stanko on December 31, 2009, 02:49:55 AM
enjoyable ? lol! Being op is enjoyable for everyone, don't u think that current op chars are enjoyable too? lol!

I gets fun in this game (from over freaktrylion games) by playin a dagger which gives extra adrenaline coz of many tactics and skills combo for many players instead of other rest 90% chars F1 F1 F1 eventually debuf or heal.  Only kidos plays mages, big ego players plays archers and the rest of good skilled pll plays daggers ( i know on NM only a few uber skilled archers - most of them retired, like 2 skilled daggers and orks, and couple pwning mages who knows their chars best). You have to have balls to play melee, this server never seen good siege with nice tactics coz pvp on this server since couple years looks like that:
gogogo> rush rush> stop  at the enemy > move back> press F1 F1 F1 F1..... thats the 99%of sieges. A few daggers (coz of daggers are useless now in mass with this freaking funny Dmg) agains uber EQ of mages and archers with OP skills - like always anoying faking heals (u will be always out of mana for blows but mage always have a lil of fakin mana to heal...).
Less daggers, less balls no tactics coz rushing intro enemy with PT of daggers can change alot. IN 4 years I can count on my 1 hand actions like that where pt of daggers rushed into enemy w/o fear being owned. Ba I got 1 nice situation with Astri (hello :) we pwned over 1 party both rushing into and starting killin healers... the rest was easy.
Anyway there are a few skilled players on this server knows lot of tactics in pvp, lot of balls to improve skills at mass. Instead there are tons of kids perfectly using OP skills etc. that's sad.  
I wrote in some topic about my chars, but the only one gives me the fun in this game is dagger/tank. When I want to play a mage etc I play other games...

stanko

Quote from: zthrx on December 31, 2009, 09:36:40 AM
I gets fun in this game (from over freaktrylion games) by playin a dagger which gives extra adrenaline coz of many tactics and skills combo for many players instead of other rest 90% chars F1 F1 F1 eventually debuf or heal.  Only kidos plays mages, big ego players plays archers and the rest of good skilled pll plays daggers ( i know on NM only a few uber skilled archers - most of them retired, like 2 skilled daggers and orks, and couple pwning mages who knows their chars best). You have to have balls to play melee, this server never seen good siege with nice tactics coz pvp on this server since couple years looks like that:
gogogo> rush rush> stop  at the enemy > move back> press F1 F1 F1 F1..... thats the 99%of sieges. A few daggers (coz of daggers are useless now in mass with this freaking funny Dmg) agains uber EQ of mages and archers with OP skills - like always anoying faking heals (u will be always out of mana for blows but mage always have a lil of fakin mana to heal...).
Less daggers, less balls no tactics coz rushing intro enemy with PT of daggers can change alot. IN 4 years I can count on my 1 hand actions like that where pt of daggers rushed into enemy w/o fear being owned. Ba I got 1 nice situation with Astri (hello :) we pwned over 1 party both rushing into and starting killin healers... the rest was easy.
Anyway there are a few skilled players on this server knows lot of tactics in pvp, lot of balls to improve skills at mass. Instead there are tons of kids perfectly using OP skills etc. that's sad. 
I wrote in some topic about my chars, but the only one gives me the fun in this game is dagger/tank. When I want to play a mage etc I play other games...

If u as a TANK/dagger need balls to rush then there is a problem.
About dmg, daggers was boosted, have expose weak point, critical wound, exciting adventure/ghost walking/wind riding and plus u are a tank means u can rush with sof+anti magic, those skills are enough for 1 rush, so pls gimme a break.
Real pro dagger players never complain about their chars btw.
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Quote from: Blizzer on December 30, 2009, 08:53:51 PM
WscieklyWaz one advice for you. Instead of watching those fairy-tales from official servers and making more and more topics about daggers weaknesses and so on try to improve your skill as daggerist. I remember our fight at oly: my th/da (IC and TT set, no mirage, no exciting adventure, no UD/Venga/SoF) vs your th/pal (DNet set, maybe some boss jewels, AI, ToL,mirage, exciting adventure, UD/Venga/SoF used) and I won with 3k HP left. IMO it's something wrong with you, not with dagger chars.

And about damage: in equipment I mentioned above I was fighting with some sps/ee at oly (dnet robe set). No attributes at all, no expose weak point landed, just critical wound on and I was hitting him for 2k from blows. So what's wrong with dagger chars? In IL it was disaster, but since HB has been implemented daggerists shouldn't complain about damage.

Its not topic about my dagger skills or who i can or cant kill, its about something that doesnt work at all and it should and about that dagger game play isnt dagger gameplay anymore.

It was my 1st month on oly here, not enchanted skills, rather testing. I played clean th somewhere else.

Try to make 2k from blow in mass pvp.






zthrx

Quote from: k0rina on December 31, 2009, 11:17:48 AM
omg stop  replying here u talk bullsh1t rly .. ye ofc daggers was good c4  ... when dagger/tank got  3k from an noob he/pp with +8 db ? when  p attack masterys was stucked and deflect arrow not work ?  tank was useless to make and since IL came  dmg lowered to  800-1000  . anyway i never had any problems , i dont know why u all ppl complain  built betetr ur char buy aq/baium for extra dmg  valakas mb for reuse get full buff and u will see dont fight on a grade armor and then say damnn dagger sucks .  in IL  u said same. now same..  keke     btw Merry x-mass  :)

the problem is I'm the first TK/pw hero on NM, most active from 2 on server with top EQ. 3 years played active, know this char the best (only Astri knows it as good as me on NM). I have tons of chars, but only dagger is the most fun char which gives a lot of advantages to play solo. So I'm speaking here as the one of the oldest players on NM, playing 1 char couple years actively. I had a time of pwn, but now whats goin on on server is just ridiculous...

so don't bother to give me advices I know everything about daggers every skills, advantages, combos and moves...

I do not speak what should be done with mages (maby in the case related with daggers) etc. I'm speaking here as the couple years (over 4) dagger user....

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Quote from: stanko on December 31, 2009, 11:12:04 AM
Real pro dagger players never complain about their chars btw.

Who in the world are you to decide this loel...?
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Quote from: thehunted on December 31, 2009, 02:32:56 PM
Who in the world are you to decide this loel...?
Oh mr big ego hello,mr dagger experience or how to call u, as k0rina said he never had problem with dagger coz he knew how to setup and how to play if u cant do the same it's ur problem
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loXol

to enjoy daggers in mass pvps:

-just fix "seal of blockade" (OL skill)  (2 lines codes i guess if it possible in "interlude hacked")
and bbye archers.....

-just fix "attributes system with skills"  (dunno if it fixable in "interlude hacked ")
and bbye archers......

-just fix "damage reduce by range for archers"  (dunno if it fixable in "interlude hacked")
and bbye archers.....

etc.....
so server need Gracia hacked version, not these "interlude 3 years old full drakerized"
Quote from: pieh on April 08, 2008, 12:07:43 AM
i like the result of aden siege: Hexa, one of few clans that really deserve (i mean overall not only pvp/siege skills) to have castles

WscieklyWaz

STOP POSTING SHIT HERE FFS

thread is about attribute system which doesnt work with blows.