some tests

[voudas69]

For me 100 dmg on someone that has 3k mdef,DNET(8% reduce+Atr 50% reduce),Frintezza (15% reduce),Divine protection(30% reduce),Song invocation (20% reduce),Unholy Protection (Probably enchanted, let's say+10 40% reduce) no gloom or vark vortex landed looks tottaly normal to me and would be the same for an sps if he wouldn't use surrender,vortex,canel,solar flare,blizzard,elemental assault etc. And if someone say still sps make more don't forget that 15%+8% resistance from jewel or set don't exist for water.Blame NC Soft for it but as you heared you are debuffers not nukers.

PS What we should hear if Beleth ring appear on server ?

soo explain me why i get 2k dmg from archers then with all the resist buffs ? again we go to the same topic archers = op right ?
i dont have  aproblem to hit for 100 dmg if they hit me for 100 dmg archers or who ever also....

[slimx]

on first pics voudas hasent full attri and we dunno how many parts catos got on dark resist.
second one dont show anything cuz u hide ur dmg and ur attri value.
on third pics no1 goes around whit 600 dark resist.
about 4 pics well he has 3k mdef but imo its still a bit low dmg but u have to admit that ur char and voudas's char arent a very Damege dealer,they shouldnt hit as sps,sorc or sh.

ye we arent the best dd around and lets say fighters use cov so that means less mdef , i'm sry i forgot to make one print with cov , i guess the  dmg would be 10% more wich still sux badly imo

[Evolution]

So with full resist very low dmg, without resist 4x more dmg vs a guy with 3k mdef.
Who have 3k mdef raise the hand. 

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[jygh]

For me 100 dmg on someone that has 3k mdef,DNET(8% reduce+Atr 50% reduce),Frintezza (15% reduce),Divine protection(30% reduce),Song invocation (20% reduce),Unholy Protection (Probably enchanted, let's say+10 40% reduce) no gloom or vark vortex landed looks tottaly normal to me and would be the same for an sps if he wouldn't use surrender,vortex,canel,solar flare,blizzard,elemental assault etc. And if someone say still sps make more don't forget that 15%+8% resistance from jewel or set don't exist for water.Blame NC Soft for it but as you heared you are debuffers not nukers.

PS What we should hear if Beleth ring appear on server ?

then tell me how to buff vs archer iff im not tank to not get hits for 1-2k per hit . even being tank i ll get around 1k so is same . tell me when last time u saw any mage making ultrakill at least .... u didnt cause is kinda imposible

[voudas69]

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80 dmg to catos 35/40 to u ? cool thenks for help

[Evolution]

80 dmg to catos 35/40 to u ? cool thenks for help

np 

[Evolution]

then tell me how to buff vs archer iff im not tank to not get hits for 1-2k per hit . even being tank i ll get around 1k so is same . tell me when last time u saw any mage making ultrakill at least .... u didnt cause is kinda imposible

+1

[chlipus]

on first pics voudas hasent full attri and we dunno how many parts catos got on dark resist.
second one dont show anything cuz u hide ur dmg and ur attri value.
on third pics no1 goes around whit 600 dark resist.
about 4 pics well he has 3k mdef but imo its still a bit low dmg but u have to admit that ur char and voudas's char arent a very Damege dealer,they shouldnt hit as sps,sorc or sh.

tabox try to be objective plix, check all screens, that is true now in mage weap atr don't work, but on bow work fine and on dagger too, so stop talking abaut atr whos don't work for mages now

[Gonzal]

well sadly u made tests when att system is totaly fuked up for mages...
I think track removed att bonus from mage atks look this test:
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With this test i m pretty sure that they removed att from weapons, now is not mater of having full att (i make the same dmg with lvl 4 water on both vortex than with lvl 6 holy) so play archer/fighter no not mages cause we sux.
The only who can make the same dmg is Kapinoob cause he dont have att on his atks (ill play OL also )
And if i play my OL sub i dont get more than 2k from archer (ask mark )

[Evolution]

Q.Q moron.

[Sesshomaru]

lineMAGE end welcome to new world 

[VforVanilla]

well sadly u made tests when att system is totaly fuked up for mages...
I think track removed att bonus from mage atks look this test:






With this test i m pretty sure that they removed att from weapons, now is not mater of having full att (i make the same dmg with lvl 4 water on both vortex than with lvl 6 holy) so play archer/fighter no not mages cause we sux.
The only who can make the same dmg is Kapinoob cause he dont have att on his atks (ill play OL also )
And if i play my OL sub i dont get more than 2k from archer (ask mark )

In both screens you have 150 attribute or more difference from the opponent, whats why you did't saw any dmg difference