Prophet + Hawkeye

[R3mm]

First at all, I would have to thanks the GM Staff for trying to balance the server but I believe a mistake has been done on this particular case and me explain you why.

With the current scenario "p atk reduced", a Prophet+Hawkeye could get killed in a pvp by a NON SUBBED Hawkeye with the same buffs, equipment and certifications, so my question is where is the point on having a prophet+hawkeye since in the DNET rules we are allowed to have 1 bot as a support player? For example pph+dancer?

The advantages of a prophet+warrior is that you should get higher p atk due to weapon mastery, higher defense, higher m def plus some passive skills, but with the current FIX you have downgraded a SUBBED PPH+HE to be as  NON SUBBED Hawkeye.

Each subclass combo has different advantages, tanks+something obviously got higher defense, elemental summoner+mage obviously have higher casting speed, but pph/wl+warrior SHOULD have some advantages as well, otherwise what is the point of stacking subclasses?
Please take this in consideration as if you do want a balanced server you should RESPECT each subclass combo advantage, or just delete the unique subclass system and let it be as retail as you have particullary done with Mages+Warriors.

It is just common sence.
Thank you

[wildpussy]

lol

[Ivenn0]

First at all, I would have to thanks the GM Staff for trying to balance the server but I believe a mistake has been done on this particular case and me explain you why.

With the current scenario "p atk reduced", a Prophet+Hawkeye could get killed in a pvp by a NON SUBBED Hawkeye with the same buffs, equipment and certifications, so my question is where is the point on having a prophet+hawkeye since in the DNET rules we are allowed to have 1 bot as a support player? For example pph+dancer?

The advantages of a prophet+warrior is that you should get higher p atk due to weapon mastery, higher defense, higher m def plus some passive skills, but with the current FIX you have downgraded a SUBBED PPH+HE to be as  NON SUBBED Hawkeye.

Each subclass combo has different advantages, tanks+something obviously got higher defense, elemental summoner+mage obviously have higher casting speed, but pph/wl+warrior SHOULD have some advantages as well, otherwise what is the point of stacking subclasses?
Please take this in consideration as if you do want a balanced server you should RESPECT each subclass combo advantage, or just delete the unique subclass system and let it be as retail as you have particullary done with Mages+Warriors.

It is just common sence.
Thank you

+1 same glad/pp xD

[qwertyzxc]

+1 same glad/pp xD

my ty/wc had around 8/10k p atak full bufed and still iw as hitting max 2.5 k  so what dmg i`ll make now on tanks ?;x    but always some noobs must cry  and they change smth.   When on HB all make  sub with tanks u didnt nerf them so why u nerf now chars + support sub ...

[R3mm]

my ty/wc had around 8/10k p atak full bufed and still iw as hitting max 2.5 k  so what dmg i`ll make now on tanks ?;x    but always some noobs must cry  and they change smth.   When on HB all make  sub with tanks u didnt nerf them so why u nerf now chars + support sub ...

GM staff this is not a fix, this is not a nerf either

What you have done is the mage+warrior subclass completly useless, literally we are closed to an UNSUBBED warrior since there IS NO BENEFIT over the warrior class but buffs (we can get them from our DNET allowed bot)

Think about this, you have destroyed the mage+warrior type subclass but not the tank+warior, not the elemental summoner+mage, not the warlord+warrior, and any other subclass type.

[R3mm]

The fact here:

Subclass Combo
Tank+Warrior result: either the warrior class got benefits from tank class or tank class got benefits from warrior class.
Tank+Mage result: the mage class gets benefits from tank buffs and skills
summoner+mage: transfer of pain, casting speed and reuse delay and cubics are given as bonus due to stacking subclasses.
Warrior+Warrior: same thing, stacking skills or passive skills for example th+he boost atk speed and critical dmg and rate are increased as well as evasion and speed.

But what about mage + warrior?
Havent you realized that you have literally desotryed this subclass comobo? the benefits SHOULD be p atk and atk speed as well as m def, thats why many of us picked this particular subclass comobo.

GM Team, I know youre trying to balance the clases but put it this way, each subclass combo has its own benefits and what you have done is literaly destroyed the mage+warrior BENEFITS, so what is the point now of having a pprophet+warropr?

[Kotlet]

so what is the point now of having a pprophet+warropr?

for selfbuff and mystic immunity

[BRexoo7]

for selfbuff and mystic immunity

And when was a different situation?
Just verrrry long time ago, with that masteries stack.

PS The only mistake is that with this Gracia update the stack was "missed" and some ppl were happy to walk around with some bugged status for a short period. Glad that was fixed.

[stanko]

my ty/wc had around 8/10k p atak full bufed and still iw as hitting max 2.5 k  so what dmg i`ll make now on tanks ?;x    but always some noobs must cry  and they change smth.   When on HB all make  sub with tanks u didnt nerf them so why u nerf now chars + support sub ...

it's not fuking nerf, it's fuking fix u crying dumbass
u got like 5k patk from nowhere and u thought it'll stay that way, they removed it in c4 for a reason... or lets give everyone bonus 5k p/m atk and we can play counter strike, who shoots first wins... seriously

[=^TrackZero^=]

And when was a different situation?
Just verrrry long time ago, with that masteries stack.

PS The only mistake is that with this Gracia update the stack was "missed" and some ppl were happy to walk around with some bugged status for a short period. Glad that was fixed.

Exactly , its a FIX not a nerf jesus, did you really tought 25k is normal? Seriously WTF

it's not fuking nerf, it's fuking fix u crying dumbass
u got like 5k patk from nowhere and u thought it'll stay that way, they removed it in c4 for a reason... or lets give everyone bonus 5k p/m atk and we can play counter strike, who shoots first wins... seriously

Again +1

P.S. Stanko  stop begging people on maxchit0rz to give you working l2w etc.. is quite lame what are you saying there.

[stanko]

Exactly , its a FIX not a nerf jesus, did you really tought 25k is normal? Seriously WTFAgain +1

P.S. Stanko  stop begging people on maxchit0rz to give you working l2w etc.. is quite lame what are you saying there.

nah they are full of viruses, i have my own now xD

[sirSethan]

anyway its not fixed becose now HE/PP got lower p atk then in helbound lol (+/- 700 p atk low)