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Started by Easley, April 01, 2013, 05:56:19 PM

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Easley

Quote from: Phantom on April 01, 2013, 07:12:09 PM
and what do you want to go to RB  with full party?  beat RB for 30 minutes? Arena dont have so many people that everyone can go to RB with full party, TYR  has such features as apparently such is to be in this chronicle, I was lucky, not everyone buys +16 like you.  so who kick yr ass?  iqub? reee?( only+12) ziggs?   
I want to see other chars than only tyrants. "such is to be in this chronicle", it's not modified after a substack server so adjustments has to be made. kick my ass where? on raids? wtf are you talking about?
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Ath

Quote from: Easley on April 01, 2013, 07:49:32 PM
I want to see other chars than only tyrants. "such is to be in this chronicle", it's not modified after a substack server so adjustments has to be made. kick my ass where? on raids? wtf are you talking about?
pointless topic. arena always has only he/wl , th/wl , sps/tk and few sps/ee in server, then th/pal , sps/tk, sps/ee few ty/wc (or ol) and few th/wl. tyrant will be nerfed, then on server will be only th/wl , th/pal , sps/tk and sps/ee (i count most of class what u can see ig)
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Easley

Quote from: Ath on April 01, 2013, 08:30:57 PM
pointless topic. arena always has only he/wl , th/wl , sps/tk and few sps/ee in server, then th/pal , sps/tk, sps/ee few ty/wc (or ol) and few th/wl. tyrant will be nerfed, then on server will be only th/wl , th/pal , sps/tk and sps/ee (i count most of class what u can see ig)
It's just balancing of chars. A ty/wc with more p.atk than a destro.. And 10k p.atk on normal buffs (normally only archers got that much). Not to mention that ty/wc actually have more p.atk with a bow than an archer have .. Same with dagger
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Rzadki

Easly have right.. 50% tyrs in game.. must be nerfed, cause others chars have small chance to be better than tyr..

Thorns

stop crying, 10k p. atk yes but with jade claw +16 & elegia light set (Critical Rate +171) without this set all use hawk totem , so cant use ogre or bizon) better lower p. atk with 370-400 crit rate > more p.atk with low crit rate

u want nerf all tyrants because few ppl have 10k patk?
what next?  th/wl   sps/tk?   with +16?

Quote from: Rzadki on April 01, 2013, 09:08:44 PM
Easly have right.. 50% tyrs in game.. must be nerfed, cause others chars have small chance to be better than tyr..

and when the other class will be better then must be nerf too, because 50% server will be playing this class= vicious circle

Quote from: Ath on April 01, 2013, 08:30:57 PM
pointless topic. arena always has only he/wl , th/wl , sps/tk and few sps/ee in server, then th/pal , sps/tk, sps/ee few ty/wc (or ol) and few th/wl. tyrant will be nerfed, then on server will be only th/wl , th/pal , sps/tk and sps/ee (i count most of class what u can see ig)

+1
beautiful punch line for close pointless topic

Easley

Quote from: Thorns on April 01, 2013, 09:31:44 PM
stop crying, 10k p. atk yes but with jade claw +16 & elegia light set
It's not elegia light set. And trust me, all donated tyrants have around that p.atk (our clan doesnt even have a single ward so my p.atk is LOW). Sps/tk is nerfed already and I think it's balanced as it is. TH/WL is nerfed too, coz I'm missing around ~20-30% p.atk from last chronicle and tyrants is WAY worse than TH/WL ever was. A tyrant is the hardest hitting char ingame with the most m.def/p.def ingame (not counting sof/ud skills) and the strongest skills ingame, I'm not even saying that anything else should be nerfed about them, only their base p.atk.

I could also keep playing my tyrant/wc and be OP like everyone else and I did that for a few weeks, but it's gotten ridiculous now and as it is now there's no point playing any other chars.

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Thorns

Quote from: Easley on April 01, 2013, 09:52:41 PM
And trust me, all donated tyrants have around that p.atk

so nerf donate!!   delete all +16   What do you think?  8)


Ath

Slyna, did u play at h5 ?? .. i on tyrant in vesp nobl set and vesp +7 has like 10200 p.atack so (im talking abt normal server)
but it was extremy buff on p.atack xDD usually i has like 6k p.atack and 5k p.def
so here with elegia +6 and jada+16 (+ wc toogle p.atak) is normal that u will have crazy p.atack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlpTLDulFe8

Thry

Quote from: Ath on April 01, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
Slyna, did u play at h5 ?? .. i on tyrant in vesp nobl set and vesp +7 has like 10200 p.atack so (im talking abt normal server)
but it was extremy buff on p.atack xDD usually i has like 6k p.atack and 5k p.def
so here with elegia +6 and jada+16 (+ wc toogle p.atak) is normal that u will have crazy p.atack
Well, his experience is with Paypal so how he should know  ???
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Easley

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Quote from: Thorns on April 01, 2013, 10:00:24 PM
so nerf donate!!   delete all +16   What do you think?  8)
I reach around 8k with selfenchanted vesper fists on normal buffs too so what's your point? It's not about the weapons it's about the stacking subclass that needs some adjusting same as the rest of all substacking classes on dragon network
Quote from: Ath on April 01, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
Slyna, did u play at h5 ?? .. i on tyrant in vesp nobl set and vesp +7 has like 10200 p.atack so (im talking abt normal server)
but it was extremy buff on p.atack xDD usually i has like 6k p.atack and 5k p.def
so here with elegia +6 and jada+16 (+ wc toogle p.atak) is normal that u will have crazy p.atack
Yeah this isnt official, and no class here is same on official, because it caused imbalanced classes just like this one. Welcome to dragon network, dude.
And besides, if u reach 10k max on official it 's fine. If you didnt notice I reached 21k. +30 on soulcry gives around 500 p.atk and jade claw+16 a few hundred more p.atk than vesper +7 (lets say around 200 more )doesnt equal 11k more p.atk with the same buffs dude.
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Ath

Quote from: Easley on April 01, 2013, 11:14:12 PM
I reach around 8k with selfenchanted vesper fists on normal buffs too so what's your point? It's not about the weapons it's about the stacking subclass that needs some adjusting same as the rest of all substacking classes on dragon networkYeah this isnt official, and no class here is same on official, because it caused imbalanced classes just like this one. Welcome to dragon network, dude.
And besides, if u reach 10k max on official it 's fine. If you didnt notice I reached 21k. +30 on soulcry gives around 500 p.atk and jade claw+16 a few hundred more p.atk than vesper +7 (lets say around 200 more )doesnt equal 11k more p.atk with the same buffs dude.
w00t , p.atack in stats between vesp+7 and jada+16 its 200 ?? .. are u srsly ? :DD
in words " welcome to draong network" u just answer to ur question abt nerf.. its not gonna happen bro, cause DN servers are just freaked up haaaard, nothin here is like should be so =))
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SexyPro

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Quote from: Easley on April 01, 2013, 05:56:19 PM
So, as most of you noticed there's been a huuuge swarm of tyrants of different kinds coming up from left and right. The reason is simple, they are way to overpowered in both pvp and pve and in raids they are even stronger. I took some screens with my tyrant/warcryer with normal buffs and with my typical "raid buffs". And after that I took pictures with the char that almost everyone used for solo raids before this chronicle which was th/wl just for reference. Here you can see the results;
TYRANT/WC NORMAL BUFFS:
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/normalbuffs.png/)


TYRANT/WC RAID BUFFS;
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/raidbuffs.png/)

TH/WL RAID BUFFS;
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/slynaraidbuffs.png/)

Same gear on both except weapons are Jade claw+16 on ty/wc and Mamba +15 on th/wl.
Remember that tyrants have their zealot too so not only +10k p.atk more, they also do 100% more critical dmg which is absurd. Imo a p.atk cut for ATLEAST 30% would make this class more balanced, still super strong though but it's atleast a start.

Something has to be done for sure. It's ruining the whole game concept as it is right now.

tbh Denis, i respect u, but stop QQ abt op tyr/wc or tyr/ol - there is no, there wont be balance - as ath already said - on x200 we dont see Sorc/pp, Sorc/wk, Es/Sps, Bd/Sh or another type of assistance chars;
why? pointless + useless/weak chars - unplayable ones - just dual boxes for supporting..