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why were the Spoil rates changed?

Started by @MaTi, January 30, 2014, 07:28:03 PM

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=^TrackZero^=

Quote from: nbx on January 31, 2014, 12:24:28 AM
Things like:

Like calling this the "original value", while the original value was a fix number(I'm not even sure what was it, maybe x4 or x5) and not this dynamic rate. I mean I'm pretty sure I know what you meant by "original value", but it doesn't actually mean what you wanted to say(since, ya know, it means the original x4 or x5 rate).

Just little things like that can produce a lot of confusion, especially to people who's english is really bad or even to native speakers with good grammar who are not experienced in reading "internet english"(like your's or mine). :)
Ah okay, thanks. But i guess you got it :)
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you also should check the spoil on "stakato nest" the spoil is really fuked up... if you check any base of drops/stoil (x1) you will see that is really harder on this server... like x4 worse spoil than on x1, check it thanks

for example "spiked stakato" lvl 72 should be spoiled for sop with 1/2 chance... and if u check on the spoil list that server gives it says 1/20

=drake=

There is really no way that it can be worse than 1x.
The curve is really perfectly applied.

Anyway i'm thinking of solutions around spoil (without raise the dynamic curve), we will see in next days.

=drake=

6x was ok for lv30-40 but for lv80, with current exp rate, is clearly exaggerated.
By boosting spoil is then required to boost drops too (else we can change the name to Craftage2 (even if the name is not far distant from reality))
Boosting drops then will be rains of full items... and so on... (is a neverending cycle)

=drake=

http://www.dragon-network.net/drop

tarantula full droplist, should be plently useful.
monster location will be added later (meanwhile refer to monster locations of dragon)

House

Quote from: =drake= on January 31, 2014, 05:44:05 AM
6x was ok for lv30-40 but for lv80, with current exp rate, is clearly exaggerated.
By boosting spoil is then required to boost drops too (else we can change the name to Craftage2 (even if the name is not far distant from reality))
Boosting drops then will be rains of full items... and so on... (is a neverending cycle)

Test and do all this experiments on open Beta, there is reason why they keep a open beta to "Test Things" we have no assurance now that you will not mess with it again, and when you do something that affects the game even in a minor way that some people gain an advantage over others, clearly the first ones who built spoilers now have a boosting advantage over others who have to drain themselves to get even a DC robe set done, so eventually it gives the earlybirds to farm RB's and have an even more advantage, this is the simplest thing I can think off, there will be a lot more effect in the market as well, I know you people have been doing a lot to make this Interlude even more interesting, but in the end you are only making it a Fail server, you are just not noticing it because there is a heavy population and people are already loosing [ like me ], already because of the exp drop curve looks like I need to no life if I need to do anything substantial with regard to helping clan, so I am least interested in exping now, So my secondary aspect is gearing up, others in my clan have geared up and when I want to do it, I have to spend double the time because spoil rate is now 3x from 6x, again not willing to do it,

Just wanna tell you that, Interlude is freaking 7 Years old, and we are just playing it because of stack subs and balance of classes in pvp, we have seen all areas in Interlude, all epics and every raid boss, and nothing in interlude would make it interesting in pve.

well just for you to understand certain things I am writing this, I am quitting server due to these reasons

1.Don't like the slow exp rate, too tedious, don't wanna no life
2.Change in spoil rates often, make it unfair for certain people, made life harder now
3.No fun in Interlude till sub, to 79 to sub only then I will have something interesting to do, 79 looks like 3 months for the time I spend [ don't wanna box buffers, I am AW and if I sub atleast I will have BD and PP buffs ]

well those are the 3 main reasons, and also you need to understand, when one player in a CP quits, the CP becomes useless till they find another one, so if you guys have the assumption that lets try all these rate changes now, even if a small amount of people quit, it will eventually lead to a lot of people leaving over time, like my CP if I leave we won't have even 2 CP complete in clan, so more people will loose interest and just quit.

we can stand DDoS or crashes or other technical factors, but if you make the curve harder for new people to play, its ridiculous.

well thanks for the efforts offering us a different lineage2 experience free of cost.

Cheers

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House

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Quote from: Falatko on January 31, 2014, 08:56:32 AM
to HOUSE: dont want quote ur long post but looks like u did not play on dragon or any stacksub server before and u should count with drastic changes during the time u play on server and if u r not able to handle them just leave np, there were always some changes like nerfing classes to total useless, spoil issues or quest issues and so on

sure I played, thats why I am leaving, not used to random server specs/changes

past week made loads of money on CBP spoil at nos, 1 nos gave 2-3 CBP , so per buff round I made 90-100 CBP , now its only 40-50 CBP per buff round, so its ok if we get 2x mats last week and 1x this week ?, I have an unfair advantage, and look at how many people spoiled other mats at higher lvls?, If you say its fair or even rectifiable and give me a reason for it I will play, for me its just an "Known exploit" for people who spoiled and regarding previous DN, mistake made twice doesn't make it right, or just not enough for people to get used to it, there is a reason why you make an open beta, there is a reason why you announce exp/spoil rates before you start server. It's called "Failing to keep up balance"

PS : please don't reply "just leave np" , because you turn to be that junk head who just wants to play regardless of whatever happens and you have no knowledge how an MMORPG works.
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Yaripon

Quote from: House on January 31, 2014, 09:16:42 AM
sure I played, thats why I am leaving, not used to random server specs/changes

past week made loads of money on CBP spoil at nos, 1 nos gave 2-3 CBP , so per buff round I made 90-100 CBP , now its only 40-50 CBP per buff round, so its ok if we get 2x mats last week and 1x this week ?, I have an unfair advantage

This guy has a point.

I checked several spots today with leather/steel. Mobs which used to give me 2 -3 leather or steel from spoil, now give me 1. Well...for me at the moment, it is not a problem cuz I made already my money on it. I collected enought leather to make Crafted Leather from it for my DC Robe Set, and even had a lot more for sell. But the point is what about ppl who are just getting started, making spoilers atm, cuz they couldnt do it earlier. Someone had plans for exemple - "This week I lvl up my main, next week I am gonnaspoil the crap out of these mobs xa0xa0x0ax". He is kinda f-word atm.

Cromatorus

Quote from: nbx on January 31, 2014, 12:11:18 AM
After reading your posts in the past few days/weeks, I can say I am 100% sure you have no idea how spoil works. Actually, you have no idea about anything in this game that isn't oldstyle DN custom. You don't even know what rate means. All you do on this forum is crying about ridiculous shit.

It might be just your 12 years old swaglord attitude with your terrible english that makes you look this way though.

First im older then u.
2nd log on  any other server IL and make spoil and check what should works....
3rd. Ur knowlage about l2 is this same like knowlage of artur..
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mardel

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Quote from: House on January 31, 2014, 09:16:42 AM
past week made loads of money on CBP spoil at nos, 1 nos gave 2-3 CBP , so per buff round I made 90-100 CBP , now its only 40-50 CBP per buff round, so its ok if we get 2x mats last week and 1x this week ?, I have an unfair advantage, and look at how many people spoiled other mats at higher lvls?, If you say its fair or even rectifiable and give me a reason for it I will play, for me its just an "Known exploit" for people who spoiled and regarding previous DN, mistake made twice doesn't make it right, or just not enough for people to get used to it, there is a reason why you make an open beta, there is a reason why you announce exp/spoil rates before you start server. It's called "Failing to keep up balance"
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,279871.0.html

:'( ???
When open beta comes to end are we getting wipe?  ;D
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 09, 2014, 10:14:08 AM
- There wont be Armor/shields at donation NPC.

Cromatorus

To ppl who dont know. Yesterday/Today spoil was again changed lol.
n/c.....
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stanxoo

you wont keep this community, dat server is going be faster than i thought