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Started by =drake=, March 05, 2014, 12:08:41 AM

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It just makes no sense to make Dragon2 when Dragon still exists.

Kabally

Quote from: =drake= on March 20, 2014, 06:41:36 PM
It just makes no sense to make Dragon2 when Dragon still exists.

Its not Dragon2,since here there is no donation for +++items,but believe it or not.

Combat haste+mana pot+old tattoo style made a lot of people came here,people that is desapointed now.

When we wanna do something we do,when we dont want,we find excuses.

We all know u not gonna change it,just trying to make u see how unhappy and boring its becoming.

I love DN,everyone here does,but this system...if there is 36 people in ts,36 people says the same,i talk to people in skype they say the same,i come to forum i see the same..i dont get why you gm's keep fighting agaisnt something that is playable by us,and waste of our time..But yes keep doing what you guys want and maybe in 1 year we are receiving emails.

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Quote from: Kabally on March 20, 2014, 06:47:04 PM
Its not Dragon2,since here there is no donation for +++items,but believe it or not.

Combat haste+mana pot+old tattoo style made a lot of people came here,people that is desapointed now.

When we wanna do something we do,when we dont want,we find excuses.

We all know u not gonna change it,just trying to make u see how unhappy and boring its becoming.

I love DN,everyone here does,but this system...if there is 36 people in ts,36 people says the same,i talk to people in skype they say the same,i come to forum i see the same..i dont get why you gm's keep fighting agaisnt something that is playable by us,and waste of our time..But yes keep doing what you guys want and maybe in 1 year we are receiving emails.

Hey Tarantula is dead,Spider is opening.
Its so hard to equip and unequip tattoos indeed. Tatto system > potion system.

Potion system just killed l2 gameplay and brain usage by far. CHP , Drake what the freak u was thinking....?!?
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Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on March 20, 2014, 06:49:02 PM
Its so hard to equip and unequip tattoos indeed. Tatto system > potion system.

Potion system just killed l2 gameplay and brain usage by far. CHP , Drake what the freak u was thinking....?!?

while this topic has attention, is it actually possible to make tattoos consume their time only in combat? (10 sec after taking or dealing damage)

so that it wont happen like "oh fuk forgot to unequip tattoo here goes my cash"
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kesy

Quote from: Alex on March 20, 2014, 06:53:41 PM
while this topic has attention, is it actually possible to make tattoos consume their time only in combat? (10 sec after taking or dealing damage)

so that it wont happen like "oh fuk forgot to unequip tattoo here goes my cash"
I agree with you .
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Quote from: =drake= on March 20, 2014, 06:31:41 PM
If someone wants higher chronicle: Dragon
if someone wants old tattoos: Dragon
if someone wants potions: Dragon

The new system is tremendously more balanced than before as higher boost = higher weakness. So is not "rich vs poor" as to get more bonus you get more weak somewhere else.
The old system instead was the real "rich = stronger" as with higher bonus the weakness was reducing.

note:
The CrtDmg tattoo have higher % and seems OP only if you cant understand it.
The +PATK tattoo gives bonus to both normal and critical hits.
The +CrtDmg tattoo gives bonus only to normal hits.
In pure DPS, the +CrtDmg to be stronger than the +PATK requires that the critical rate is more than 50% OR that you got extremely lucky and you striked up more critical hits because of pure luck.
In fact, with 50% critical rate, the DPS of a +20% Patk is totally equal to +40% Crt.Dmg.
Yea maybe but we wasting 10% of 3stats to get 20% of patk bonus or 40% of cd bonus, while still with interlude mana costs (they got reduced in future chronicles) we cant manage to use them more than like a 1min of fight and then have to switch to mana tattoos.

In our old system we could wear offensive tatttoo + mana pot, here we have to choose, which ofc is not bad, but i think all the tattoos that are cutting 3 stats (pdef+mdef+something) should on empower mode on max lvl gives like 10mp/3 or 5mp/3 ^^ but its only my wish :D

hotsauce

Quote from: kesy on March 20, 2014, 07:26:06 PM
I agree with you .
By the way, how about making something that show us when tatoo are without having to open the inventory window ??

kramligz

Quote from: hotsauce on March 21, 2014, 09:55:14 AM
By the way, how about making something that show us when tatoo are without having to open the inventory window ??

+1. I read similar request about this. I hope it will be implemented.



Alex

Quote from: Alex on March 20, 2014, 06:53:41 PM
while this topic has attention, is it actually possible to make tattoos consume their time only in combat? (10 sec after taking or dealing damage)

so that it wont happen like "oh fuk forgot to unequip tattoo here goes my cash"
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=drake=

There is an obvious reason why some tattoos under lv emp cuts 2 stats and others cuts 1 stat.

The one that cuts a single stat usually affect a stat that interact with the same behavior of the bonus given (attack or defence).

Example: + CrtDmg -AtkSpeed
clearly you are trading off your attack speed for critical damage and so you are simply rebalancing your DPS toward fast constant damage or burst damage.
Basically both effect affects your "active" state as they touch your output. Your boost affects any target you hit.

The ones that cuts two stats at a time is because they affect a stat in the opposite direction.

Example: +CrtDmg -Pdef/Mdef
here you are maxing out dps (active) without lose nothing in it (no speed, no patk, etc..) and just losing defence (passive).
if defence was ONLY pdef or ONLY mdef means that your weakness would affect only 1 specific opponent (caster or fighter) while your boost would affect both of them.
So someone could simply use +CrtDmg -Pdef against a mage and have the upper hand. Thats not exactly what the tattoos are designed for.
You must always lose something to gain something else. (like the Dyes)
This is why you lose both pdef and mdef at same time when boosting your attack.

Calisa

Quote from: Falatko on March 22, 2014, 07:54:25 AM
One thing drake before will be too late,

Dagger dmg is totally broken, I tested with TH / PP vs GL / PP somethings like

with shadow kris and PP Buffs on th , Deadly Blow to GL / PP with Tallum Heavy Set 1,4k pdef PP buff no zerk was 550-600
same buffs next :
with shadow kris and PP Buffs on th , Deadly Blow to GL / PP with DC Robe Set 900 pdef PP buff no zerk was 700-750

so u mean robe set increase dmg by prolly 15% ? then dagger will never ever burst any1 in Mass PVP even in olympiad daggers are no lethal no win vs these gladiators or tyrants or any Heavy users with proper buffs

not sure if remember right numbers but i can test it again and send pictures later

I suggest to all daggers Reroll as soon as possible.
the problem is with souldshots you can check dmg with and without souldshots and there is no differeance while should be x2 dmg with ss.

Alex

Quote from: v23 on March 22, 2014, 08:03:08 AM
the problem is with souldshots you can check dmg with and without souldshots and there is no differeance while should be x2 dmg with ss.
soulshots work different on dagger skills.
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