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Started by Sharpeye, September 22, 2014, 04:02:38 PM

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reddragonjr

Quote from: UngO on October 15, 2014, 09:33:31 PM
mate still archers are way better for pvp then mages here...not speakin of equip they need...archer crits almost all shots and that attack speed we got is enough tbh not speakin of fact of range advantage and mobility of human archers

We had many 9vs9 against good mages party we beaten them they beaten us to, so I wont comment anymore balance is good here.
The problem here that always been since begin is lack of good players=qq=retarded topics=cry.
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Quote from: reddragonjr on October 15, 2014, 10:24:43 PM
We had many 9vs9 against good mages party we beaten them they beaten us to, so I wont comment anymore balance is good here.
The problem here that always been since begin is lack of good players=qq=retarded topics=cry.
mages will win only cuz res combos since always...in mass pvps are archers always better in my opinion anyway i dont got problems with mages only thing i wanna here is cancel nerfs on tanks so i can play my sr/tk <3
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Quote from: reddragonjr on October 15, 2014, 09:07:34 PM
5k crits from mage are way enough on proper buffs.And take to count mages got 2k c.speed or more duno what's the cap here 2.1?if there is a cap vs 600 a.speed of archers so archers are slow motion with mahum and mahum/deadeye matrix.
What mages have 2,1k cast spd? With zerk and emp witch tatto on SPS yeah. This also means you die by 1-2 arrows from archers though. I'm running around with about 1,4k cast on my normal buffs / setup.. You seem to have the wrong picture about mages and it's not smart saying stuf like that when it's not true in most of the cases, you're making mages sound alot stronger then they are xD
Quote from: UngO on October 15, 2014, 11:05:10 PM
mages will win only cuz res combos since always...in mass pvps are archers always better in my opinion anyway i dont got problems with mages only thing i wanna here is cancel nerfs on tanks so i can play my sr/tk <3
This is the truth, the fact that we can res eachother more effectivetly (and even stuf as nobl ourselves fast) is what makes a mage party dangerous.

This topic is getting derailed alot and going offtopic atm but I think it's balanced enough as it is right now but it's good to consider the stuf we wrote earlier about making some changes around;
"- Mana potions
- Dances & Songs lasting to short or using up to much mana (mana pots might fix this though)
- Tattoo's that doesn't expire
- Some changes to deflect arrow"
Coz this is what the majority of the server wants from what I can tell.
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Quote from: Easley on October 16, 2014, 10:52:38 AM
What mages have 2,1k cast spd? With zerk and emp witch tatto on SPS yeah. This also means you die by 1-2 arrows from archers though. I'm running around with about 1,4k cast on my normal buffs / setup.. You seem to have the wrong picture about mages and it's not smart saying stuf like that when it's not true in most of the cases, you're making mages sound alot stronger then they are xD This is the truth, the fact that we can res eachother more effectivetly (and even stuf as nobl ourselves fast) is what makes a mage party dangerous.

This topic is getting derailed alot and going offtopic atm but I think it's balanced enough as it is right now but it's good to consider the stuf we wrote earlier about making some changes around;
"- Mana potions
- Dances & Songs lasting to short or using up to much mana (mana pots might fix this though)
- Tattoo's that doesn't expire
- Some changes to deflect arrow"
Coz this is what the majority of the server wants from what I can tell.
finaly some1 agree with me..and im 2x glad its from some1 who know what he speak
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reddragonjr

Quote from: Easley on October 16, 2014, 10:52:38 AM
What mages have 2,1k cast spd? With zerk and emp witch tatto on SPS yeah. This also means you die by 1-2 arrows from archers though. I'm running around with about 1,4k cast on my normal buffs / setup.. You seem to have the wrong picture about mages and it's not smart saying stuf like that when it's not true in most of the cases, you're making mages sound alot stronger then they are xD This is the truth, the fact that we can res eachother more effectivetly (and even stuf as nobl ourselves fast) is what makes a mage party dangerous.

Dude you cant have it all at once big c.speed,m.atak,p.def,m.def and you should know that...same goes for fighters you need sacrifice some stats to boost others. And when I said mages you should it easy guessed that I was reffering to white elf and summoner classes that can reach easy that a.speed,while other mage classes got bigger m.atak and so on.
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Quote from: Easley on October 16, 2014, 10:52:38 AM
What mages have 2,1k cast spd? With zerk and emp witch tatto on SPS yeah. This also means you die by 1-2 arrows from archers though. I'm running around with about 1,4k cast on my normal buffs / setup.. You seem to have the wrong picture about mages and it's not smart saying stuf like that when it's not true in most of the cases, you're making mages sound alot stronger then they are xD This is the truth, the fact that we can res eachother more effectivetly (and even stuf as nobl ourselves fast) is what makes a mage party dangerous.

This topic is getting derailed alot and going offtopic atm but I think it's balanced enough as it is right now but it's good to consider the stuf we wrote earlier about making some changes around;

"- Mana potions
- Dances & Songs lasting to short or using up to much mana (mana pots might fix this though)
- Tattoo's that doesn't expire
- Some changes to deflect arrow"
Coz this is what the majority of the server wants from what I can tell.


The only thing I don't agree is about that red part rest all ok.Because if they do some changes they should remove all nerfs that were done to all classes not only to a specific one and that would be fair.Not only remove/change nerfs for a specific class and let the others with nerfs, remove all than.But there will be always problem they did the balance good from begin with test so if you interfere in 1 class than that balance will get fked up because than all will want nerfs removed from all classes.It is good as it is they don't need to fk it up like open pandora's box as it was in the past.

Peace mate.

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Quote from: reddragonjr on October 16, 2014, 07:26:30 PM
Dude you cant have it all at once big c.speed,m.atak,p.def,m.def and you should know that...same goes for fighters you need sacrifice some stats to boost others. And when I said mages you should it easy guessed that I was reffering to white elf and summoner classes that can reach easy that a.speed,while other mage classes got bigger m.atak and so on.


The only thing I don't agree is about that red part rest all ok.Because if they do some changes they should remove all nerfs that were done to all classes not only to a specific one and that would be fair.Not only remove/change nerfs for a specific class and let the others with nerfs, remove all than.But there will be always problem they did the balance good from begin with test so if you interfere in 1 class than that balance will get fked up because than all will want nerfs removed from all classes.It is good as it is they don't need to fk it up like open pandora's box as it was in the past.

Peace mate.

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_okazaki_

Just wanna say SPS/TK gets critted for 1.2 by maxxed out archers. That is all
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Quote from: _okazaki_ on October 16, 2014, 09:38:22 PM
Just wanna say SPS/TK gets critted for 1.2 by maxxed out archers. That is all
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UngO

Quote from: _okazaki_ on October 16, 2014, 09:38:22 PM
Just wanna say SPS/TK gets critted for 1.2 by maxxed out archers. That is all
i would wanna see that :) on all uds maybe
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Quote from: UngO on October 16, 2014, 11:27:57 PM
i would wanna see that :) on all uds maybe
make 1vs1 vs Admiral and you will see !!

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Quote from: UngO on October 16, 2014, 11:27:57 PM
i would wanna see that :) on all uds maybe

no UDs, just deflect arrow/Guard stance/dc set +++ and well buffed, ask admiral, I tested with him on crunch
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