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Started by Picksy, August 18, 2016, 07:29:21 PM

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Peorexo

Quote from: mochin on October 20, 2016, 05:44:18 PM
is this a bug?


it lasts 15 seconds only.
From last beta I believe, they enabled the enchant route on that skill but reduced the time to 20s at +30. Description was unchanged

Morel

Quote from: Peorexo on October 20, 2016, 06:19:10 PM
From last beta I believe, they enabled the enchant route on that skill but reduced the time to 20s at +30. Description was unchanged
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-Added soul barrier kamael skill +time enchant route with changed abnormal times +30 = total of 20s
(require clientupdate)

yep
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mochin

ops sorry, my bad.
On the other hand, thats why all skill changes should be on a single list

Easley

While we wait patiently for the new server I had a little thought I wanna discuss, it's about 2handed mage staffs. Do you think it's reasonable for the 2handed mage weapon to have the exact same stats as their 1handed counterparts?

Highest B grade mage weapon
Staff of evil spirits  132 m.atk no acumen SA 2-handed
Wizard's tear 132 m.atk with Acumen SA 1-handed

Most common A grade
Sword of miracles 152 m.atk Acumen SA 1-handed
Branch of the mother tree 152 m.atk acumen SA  2-handed

Top S
Arcana mace 175 m.atk acumen SA 1-handed
Imperial staff 175 m.atk no Acumen SA 2-handed

Dynasty
Dynasty mace/phantom 202 m.atk Acumen SA 1-handed
Dynasty staff 202 m.atk Acumen 2-handed

Icarus
No 2handed staff available

So what I'm saying is that there's no benefit at all using the 2handed staffs now since usings a shield is very important if you dont want to get sniped in a few hits. This was "fixed" in later chronicles by adding some extra m.atk to the stats of 2handed (dynasty staff went from 202 to 222). If it was changed to the stats of later chronicles, or maybe even giving them some more benefits, would people use them? As of right now there's no way people would use 2handed and drop the shield unless there's some really decent benefit to it. I do like the idea of using 2handed staff if they had higher m.atk and going as "glass cannon" and just generally having a few different setups would be interesting. Anyways, discuss if you got any opinions about it!
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Quote from: Easley on October 26, 2016, 08:21:57 AM
While we wait patiently for the new server I had a little thought I wanna discuss, it's about 2handed mage staffs. Do you think it's reasonable for the 2handed mage weapon to have the exact same stats as their 1handed counterparts?

Highest B grade mage weapon
Staff of evil spirits  132 m.atk no acumen SA 2-handed
Wizard's tear 132 m.atk with Acumen SA 1-handed

Most common A grade
Sword of miracles 152 m.atk Acumen SA 1-handed
Branch of the mother tree 152 m.atk acumen SA  2-handed

Top S
Arcana mace 175 m.atk acumen SA 1-handed
Imperial staff 175 m.atk no Acumen SA 2-handed

Dynasty
Dynasty mace/phantom 202 m.atk Acumen SA 1-handed
Dynasty staff 202 m.atk Acumen 2-handed

Icarus
No 2handed staff available

So what I'm saying is that there's no benefit at all using the 2handed staffs now since usings a shield is very important if you dont want to get sniped in a few hits. This was "fixed" in later chronicles by adding some extra m.atk to the stats of 2handed (dynasty staff went from 202 to 222). If it was changed to the stats of later chronicles, or maybe even giving them some more benefits, would people use them? As of right now there's no way people would use 2handed and drop the shield unless there's some really decent benefit to it. I do like the idea of using 2handed staff if they had higher m.atk and going as "glass cannon" and just generally having a few different setups would be interesting. Anyways, discuss if you got any opinions about it!
I believe it was discused @ncsoft forums so they added this feature later as a lot of good stuff as they improved game :)   doubt its any important atm
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Easley

Quote from: mruwqa on October 26, 2016, 10:41:16 AM
I believe it was discused @ncsoft forums so they added this feature later as a lot of good stuff as they improved game :)   doubt its any important atm
Yeah I saw it too, it's not important right now as we all just want to get the server up but I'm trying to look past that :) It's a good way to make some different builds possible, few more subs comes to play and personally I just wanna see some different weapons being used xD If it's an easy change, I'd be up for it for sure!
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Quote from: Easley on October 26, 2016, 08:21:57 AM
I do like the idea of using 2handed staff if they had higher m.atk and going as "glass cannon" and just generally having a few different setups would be interesting. Anyways, discuss if you got any opinions about it!

Yup, i like that idea.
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Vexim

Empower SA: +30% m.attack. Problem solved :D
Anyway, even with such boost, shield is just too good to trade it for some bonus dmg.
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pmkaboo

Quote from: Vexim on October 26, 2016, 06:51:47 PM
Empower SA: +30% m.attack. Problem solved :D
Anyway, even with such boost, shield is just too good to trade it for some bonus dmg.
problem not solved because if you make it SA you lose acumen in addition to the shield.

Easley

Quote from: Vexim on October 26, 2016, 06:51:47 PM
Empower SA: +30% m.attack. Problem solved :D
Anyway, even with such boost, shield is just too good to trade it for some bonus dmg.
Quote from: pmkaboo on October 26, 2016, 07:04:16 PM
problem not solved because if you make it SA you lose acumen in addition to the shield.
Well all mages NEED acumen, there's nothing beating it. So the only "good" 2handed blunt would be dynasty staff and even then, most chars would benefit plenty more from a shield. In later chronicles they increased the m.atk from 202 -> 222 so maybe double that increase to 242 and we're looking at something I would definietly consider using.
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Quote from: Vexim on October 26, 2016, 06:51:47 PM
Empower SA: +30% m.attack. Problem solved :D
Anyway, even with such boost, shield is just too good to trade it for some bonus dmg.
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