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Started by NunoPitbull, October 14, 2016, 04:36:53 PM

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Picksy

      I have no idea what you mean with "eSports", mas tbh, that shit doesn't make any sense to me. Even official servers from MMORPG's can't be relevant in eSports, and you are thinking on implementing something about it on this server ?
      Not only that, but you are making it your number 1 priority ? I'm sorry, but I can't understand this. I want the best for the server, and I'm just another nerd who wants to play the game, but I just cannot understand what is going on in your heads ....
      Sure you can implement some tournaments or whatever, but call it eSports ? and make it your 1st priority ?
      In my opinion, you should just drop it, fix those balancing issues that are being discussed and open the server. It is just ridiculous that the server has some issues to fix for quite some time and you are giving priority to something that won't even be that revolutionary, nor will it bring more people, but whatever, thats just my opinion, which is worthless I know.
      Deixem de comer merda às colheres fds



somasz

we dont need any eSports, tvts, any kind of forced pvp
we want healthy community fighting for common lineage goals - epics, sieges, best farm spots

NunoPitbull

Quote from: Picksy on October 14, 2016, 11:16:19 PM
      I have no idea what you mean with "eSports", mas tbh, that shit doesn't make any sense to me. Even official servers from MMORPG's can't be relevant in eSports, and you are thinking on implementing something about it on this server ?
      Not only that, but you are making it your number 1 priority ? I'm sorry, but I can't understand this. I want the best for the server, and I'm just another nerd who wants to play the game, but I just cannot understand what is going on in your heads ....
      Sure you can implement some tournaments or whatever, but call it eSports ? and make it your 1st priority ?
      In my opinion, you should just drop it, fix those balancing issues that are being discussed and open the server. It is just ridiculous that the server has some issues to fix for quite some time and you are giving priority to something that won't even be that revolutionary, nor will it bring more people, but whatever, thats just my opinion, which is worthless I know.
      Deixem de comer merda às colheres fds

Exactly. I understand their feeling to make and think outside of the box and make something different, the only problem is that this all is souding too much of "L2 java" kind fo stuff. Maybe not to us that we know what is beeing implement but prbably for many users who gonna read that. Also, they should worry about this kind of stuff AFTER they open server with everything stable for at least a week or 2. But oh well...
If you wanna re-open this server and have the same exact community you had before closing the last HR your going well.
If you actually wanna change direction and ste on a different mindset, jsut fix this sh1tty bugs/nerfs already and launch the server. There's actually no point at this moment to delay a server launch to later october/november. You jsut need to check/fix my 5) points I wrote at the begining and what Clonage told and its good to go. Advertising can be constant, and will be more trustfull due to Twitch streams + people that see the advertisemnt and actually seems a fully running server without downtimes.
Anyway i'm repeating myself over and over. My point was amd ealready :P

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Picksy

  I just want to make sure that you understand this...No one here is saying that we don't appreciate your ideas. I think everyone likes the fact that you guys are actually working to give us new features etc etc.   I'm just saying that those features can be implemented after the server opening.
  Right now, your priority should be fixing the remaining issues and opening the server. I understand that you don't want to rush things but you wouldn't be rushing. You just have to fix the issues and you can open the server.
  After the server opens, and you manage to stable it after the 1st days of constant DDos' , you can then start thinking on the new feature. I would really prefer it this way because we'll already have issues when the server opens, there are always issues. Adding the tvt/esports featuring right at the beggining, will cause even more problems because it needs field testing, and you're not gonna test it on beta with 10 players.
  Just be chill with those events, fix the issues everyone is talking about (because thats what people really care about), and later when the server is ready for it, release the eSports feature. Having it on server start is not gonna bring more people.
  The factor that will influence people's decision to join the server or not, is actually the balancing of classes/skills. This should be your priority numero uno

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Quote from: somasz on October 14, 2016, 11:45:31 PM
we dont need any eSports, tvts, any kind of forced pvp
we want healthy community fighting for common lineage goals - epics, sieges, best farm spots

Like Barakiel f.e., which is in most PvP videos made by ppl.

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Zefy

Quote from: Picksy on October 15, 2016, 12:33:32 AM
  The factor that will influence people's decision to join the server or not, is actually the balancing of classes/skills. This should be your priority numero uno

Currently the best class is the mage, noob dmg and noob resistence cause substack tank, the best useless class after dwarf is the archer, i did full archer (element, skills+30 etc..), my friend duelist with Armor Tallum Plate "A" and skills+0, my best crit 1700 with 190 holy (duelist with 10 holy def), he hit me 4500 with bluster+0, full archer vs duelist 85 only, enjoy  ;D ;D ;D

PS: Saggi/Warlod      Duelist/PP

Vexim

Quote from: Zefy on October 15, 2016, 09:52:37 AM
Currently the best class is the mage, noob dmg and noob resistence cause substack tank, the best useless class after dwarf is the archer, i did full archer (element, skills+30 etc..), my friend duelist with Armor Tallum Plate "A" and skills+0, my best crit 1700 with 190 holy (duelist with 10 holy def), he hit me 4500 with bluster+0, full archer vs duelist 85 only, enjoy  ;D ;D ;D

PS: Saggi/Warlod      Duelist/PP
1v1 =/= 9v9.
Archers in 9v9 are very strong. With good pt setup/brains/gear-archers > mages.
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Peorexo

Quote from: Zefy on October 15, 2016, 09:52:37 AM
Currently the best class is the mage, noob dmg and noob resistence cause substack tank, the best useless class after dwarf is the archer, i did full archer (element, skills+30 etc..), my friend duelist with Armor Tallum Plate "A" and skills+0, my best crit 1700 with 190 holy (duelist with 10 holy def), he hit me 4500 with bluster+0, full archer vs duelist 85 only, enjoy  ;D ;D ;D

PS: Saggi/Warlod      Duelist/PP
Debil? Duelist is pretty much the strongest 1v1 char in the game, becouse the way he scales makes him godlike in olympiad and low-buff environment, he falls of in full buffed/organised fights in this chronicle (in H5 he still rules there lul). Archer is not solo rambo character anymore post interlude, its party class. Thats pretty much the only what changed between chronicles, Archers went from full noob mode to party needed, while the rest stayed the same. If you do think archers are useless, i will gladly prove that wrong. But i will not do it here on beta, because you would have time to cry on forum that they are OP, i'd rather do it on live.

Zefy

Quote from: Peorexo on October 15, 2016, 10:35:13 AM
Debil? Duelist is pretty much the strongest 1v1 char in the game, becouse the way he scales makes him godlike in olympiad and low-buff environment, he falls of in full buffed/organised fights in this chronicle (in H5 he still rules there lul). Archer is not solo rambo character anymore post interlude, its party class. Thats pretty much the only what changed between chronicles, Archers went from full noob mode to party needed, while the rest stayed the same. If you do think archers are useless, i will gladly prove that wrong. But i will not do it here on beta, because you would have time to cry on forum that they are OP, i'd rather do it on live.

So a duelist with armor A rape archer full; if you want kill any archer just make glad with Equip A, u can rape a player that farm icarus weapon/element/skills+30. Very very good, I have to farm equip/skills and i can't play solo because any char with A grade can kill me.
Plz log in and prove me, if you will kill my char with "A" grade equip i pay you.

Quote from: Zefy on October 15, 2016, 09:52:37 AM
my best crit 1700 with 190 holy (duelist with 10 holy def), he hit me 4500 with bluster+0, full archer vs duelist 85 only, enjoy  ;D ;D ;D

PS:1700 dmg with QA and Baium  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Vexim

hex+block shield+real target+counter rapid shot+cert haste+party ai = 2k attackspeed + 5k+ dmg, say hello to underpowered archers.
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mruwqa

Quote from: Zefy on October 15, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
So a duelist with armor A rape archer full; if you want kill any archer just make glad with Equip A, u can rape a player that farm icarus weapon/element/skills+30. Very very good, I have to farm equip/skills and i can't play solo because any char with A grade can kill me.
Plz log in and prove me, if you will kill my char with "A" grade equip i pay you.

PS:1700 dmg with QA and Baium  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
log in I will show u u chose my char u freaking loser newb
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Morel

So make glad/pp on live server and you will kill everyone. It is more/less balanced right now.

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I agree with people above. Do not spend right now your energy on more custom events/turnaments/etc.
Focus on balancing changes (if you already done it, implement it and post changelog), PVP zones.
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