what about this char?
Humm what is good about that combo?
Doesn't have deacent def/atk ----boost of atk speed b/c of spirit of duelist and not much more imo
Quote from: darkpuffa on September 08, 2009, 04:38:05 AM
what about this char?
If duelist spirit is working and war cry too , It's owning like before ;P
This char offers some of the highest p.atk/crits you can get. And if you run into tank subs you can whip out a pair of duals and still do dmg.
Fun sub but requires some well thought out macro's and quick fingers ;)
and what is better heavy set or light
I can't speak about PR/GL but I have HE/GL and it is really funny to play :) As a PR you'll get 7 ~ 9k p.atk easily (depends on your equip), and Duelist Spirit seems to be working with bow :)
you also get: War Cry, Battle Roar for some basic healing, Braveheart as a very cool CP restoring skill, Lionheart which can save you from various curses and stuns, Duelist Move as a Dash which PR is missing, Sonic Barrier. And as Kidicarus said - you can always switch to duals and handle some tank combos. You'll also get loads of HP and CP.
Things you miss most is good m.def.
Overall, it is great char, nowadays much better then pr/wl or he/wl. In mass PvPs, there is not much chars that could deal bigger damage than you.
As far as set is concerned, I prefer light on archers. Glad has both masteries, heavy and light, but I am using light, since evasion is better then a bit higher p.def.
P.S.: Don't listen to Javardsnegger, he doesn't have a clue :D
Quote from: Javardsnegger on September 08, 2009, 07:04:21 AM
Humm what is good about that combo?
Doesn't have deacent def/atk ----boost of atk speed b/c of spirit of duelist and not much more imo
Duelist Spirit is not increasing atk.spd with bow. Only with duals.
*EDIT*
This char sux, you cannot even cast Kiss of Eva, you cannot equip bow anymore, do not ever make archer/Glad! :D
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 10, 2009, 08:08:16 AM
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P.S.: Don't listen to Javardsnegger, he doesn't have a clue :D
Duelist Spirit is not increasing atk.spd with bow. Only with duals.
Lool indeed ima nub! Don't listen to me :D :D
Quote from: Javardsnegger on September 10, 2009, 01:16:40 PM
Lool indeed ima nub! Don't listen to me :D :D
no you don't :) You forgot how you were surprised when I told you about my p.atk? :D
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 10, 2009, 01:33:18 PM
no you don't :) You forgot how you were surprised when I told you about my p.atk? :D
Dash stacks with sonic move ? ::)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 10, 2009, 11:33:47 PM
yes.
thats epic :D thats would be the best kitter ever :-*
Quote from: SysTemHacK on September 11, 2009, 05:28:32 AM
thats epic :D thats would be the best kitter ever :-*
304 speed without Song of Wind (and with crappy tattoos) :)
nerf
u lost the charges when u use sonic move so its not so good:p
duelist spirit gives pvp patk which is a nice boost, if u couple it with the augment for pvp patk. probably it shouldn't work on bow :p
rest is just glad with archer skills (or the reverse) really :p many cp/hp and warcry. doubt i forgot much xD btr lvl1 is insignificant, braveheart is too nerfed to be useful etc.
Quote from: kang on September 13, 2009, 02:58:59 PM
u lost the charges when u use sonic move so its not so good:p
duelist spirit gives pvp patk which is a nice boost, if u couple it with the augment for pvp patk. probably it shouldn't work on bow :p
rest is just glad with archer skills (or the reverse) really :p many cp/hp and warcry. doubt i forgot much xD btr lvl1 is insignificant, braveheart is too nerfed to be useful etc.
you can runaway really fast, so you have plenty of time to recharge all charges :)
Braveheart could be nerfed, but it really helps to refill CP while you're outnumbered, so it can save your ass, since reuse of CP pots is lenghtened. :)
btw:
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3742/speedza.jpg)
and thanks for helping me with running forum again :D
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 13, 2009, 03:18:35 PM
you can runaway really fast, so you have plenty of time to recharge all charges :)
Braveheart could be nerfed, but it really helps to refill CP while you're outnumbered, so it can save your ass, since reuse of CP pots is lenghtened. :)
btw: (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3742/speedza.jpg)
and thanks for helping me with running forum again :D
did u stack fast movement from onyx beast transformation as i told u?
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 13, 2009, 03:18:35 PM
you can runaway really fast, so you have plenty of time to recharge all charges :)
Braveheart could be nerfed, but it really helps to refill CP while you're outnumbered, so it can save your ass, since reuse of CP pots is lenghtened. :)
btw: (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3742/speedza.jpg)
and thanks for helping me with running forum again :D
no i meant braveheart is already nerfed
spamming cp pot is more efficient :p
as for speed i prefer 2min ai+dash (approx same speed but for a way longer time + zillion other bonuses xD)
theres rly just the pvp atk bonus :p
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 13, 2009, 05:04:55 PM
did u stack fast movement from onyx beast transformation as i told u?
not yet, I don't have transformation quest on toxii yet :P
Quote from: kang on September 13, 2009, 05:57:22 PM
no i meant braveheart is already nerfed
spamming cp pot is more efficient :p
as for speed i prefer 2min ai+dash (approx same speed but for a way longer time + zillion other bonuses xD)
theres rly just the pvp atk bonus :p
spamming CPs is more efficient, but you still have cp pots + 1k CP from skill, hence it is still some bonus :)
well, one of the bonus of AI is decreased healing amount, so I don't really like it, but yes, it has better bonuses :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 13, 2009, 06:59:15 PM
not yet, I don't have transformation quest on toxii yet :P
then that record can be improved.
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 13, 2009, 09:51:40 PM
then that record can be improved.
sure, I have crappy tattoos, I miss hero zerk, dynasty :P
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 13, 2009, 09:56:48 PM
sure, I have crappy tattoos, I miss hero zerk, dynasty :P
350+ imo. go for 400 :o
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 13, 2009, 11:07:17 PM
and I also miss +dex dyes :D
LOL
Go +5 DEX imo, and post result then
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 13, 2009, 11:10:38 PM
LOL
Go +5 DEX imo, and post result then
I'll go +4 only :P I have only 1 place for dye left :p
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 13, 2009, 11:12:23 PM
I'll go +4 only :P I have only 1 place for dye left :p
go +5 for the sake of record breaking and i'll buy you other dyes afterward
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 13, 2009, 11:17:57 PM
go +5 for the sake of record breaking and i'll buy you other dyes afterward
you gotta wait for it anyway, I have to lvl toxii up to 80 in order to use dynasty. :P
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 13, 2009, 11:19:04 PM
you gotta wait for it anyway, I have to lvl toxii up to 80 in order to use dynasty. :P
you can go for a +5 DEX setup in the meanwhile. ;D
Quote from: darkpuffa on September 08, 2009, 04:38:05 AM
what about this char?
I think it sucks dk, so make one :)
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 13, 2009, 11:37:18 PM
you can go for a +5 DEX setup in the meanwhile. ;D
I'll use it only for speedrun, I don't want to decrease my CON anymore :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 07:57:47 AM
I'll use it only for speedrun, I don't want to decrease my CON anymore :)
anything for the recond breaking. And what set is best for speed record breaking? something with +2-3 DEX, can be even B grade
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 11:11:42 AM
anything for the recond breaking. And what set is best for speed record breaking? something with +2-3 DEX, can be even B grade
Doom light have +3 DEX if I remember well. Would be nice to get that set even for my perma PK char :P
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 11:11:42 AM
anything for the recond breaking. And what set is best for speed record breaking? something with +2-3 DEX, can be even B grade
Didn't doom light give a pretty nice bonus?
Btw... This char can't ever be the fastest so why bother breaking a record? Not like your char, where you can be the fastest spellcaster ingame. Glad/He can always be beat by a handfull of other combinations.
Quote from: kidicarus on September 14, 2009, 11:27:21 AM
Didn't doom light give a pretty nice bonus?
Btw... This char can't ever be the fastest so why bother breaking a record? Not like your char, where you can be the fastest spellcaster ingame. Glad/He can always be beat by a handfull of other combinations.
for example? TY/PW?
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 11:25:27 AM
Doom light have +3 DEX if I remember well. Would be nice to get that set even for my perma PK char :P
i have one, pm me when you are ready for testing, i'll lend it to u.
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 11:49:23 AM
i have one, pm me when you are ready for testing, i'll lend it to u.
I'll make it today then :) I will just need someone with hero zerk :D
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 11:52:53 AM
I'll make it today then :) I will just need someone with hero zerk :D
Hero beserk is self-buff. i know, i had it once :P
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 11:54:31 AM
Hero beserk is self-buff. i know, i had it once :P
damn... then there won't be much of a difference in speed. Only better tattos, dyes and set bonus. :-\ I'll be happy for 350.
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 11:55:52 AM
damn... then there won't be much of a difference in speed. Only better tattos, dyes and set bonus. :-\ I'll be happy for 350.
with +5 DEX, level 4 rabbits, doom light set... i guess it will be around 375. but hey, maybe i am wrong.
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 11:57:34 AM
with +5 DEX, level 4 rabbits, doom light set... i guess it will be around 375. but hey, maybe i am wrong.
and with stacking fast movement self-buff from onyx transformation, you'll reach 400 ;o
you will be able to dodge bullets and catch arrows in flight :o
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 12:06:26 PM
and with stacking fast movement self-buff from onyx transformation, you'll reach 400 ;o
you will be able to dodge bullets and catch arrows in flight :o
no need to catch arrows, they wouldn't be able to target me anyway :D
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 12:19:44 PM
no need to catch arrows, they wouldn't be able to target me anyway :D
/target Toxii
You carefully knock an arrow. *Toxii uses dash
Cannot see target. ;D
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 12:33:32 PM
/target Toxii
You carefully knock an arrow. *Toxii uses dash
Cannot see target. ;D
or "you cannot attack this target in peace zone"
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 11:28:02 AM
for example? TY/PW?
Well first thing that springs to mind would be TH/Glad, Glad/Pw, Ty/th, Ty/glad(?), Ty/Pw. And Th/Pw For teh lulz Dash+blinding blow awaaay!
Quote from: kidicarus on September 14, 2009, 01:50:22 PM
Well first thing that springs to mind would be TH/Glad, Glad/Pw, Ty/th, Ty/glad(?), Ty/Pw. And Th/Pw For teh lulz Dash+blinding blow awaaay!
ye, TH/GL would be faster, Glad/PW as well, but Blinding blow is useless without mobs. TH/PW? Why would someone make such char? :P
Quote from: Kikolina on September 14, 2009, 05:33:10 PM
so much talk of max speed, too bad after 375 it bugs up and starts jump u back to the place from which u clicked at :P
nevermind :D
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 08:58:19 PM
teleportation ftw ;D
339 in dynasty without lvl 3 tattoos so far :p
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 09:55:07 PM
339 in dynasty without lvl 3 tattoos so far :p
on HE/GL?!?
Nice speed... i will check my TH/TY (on IL i got 360 without Tattoos).
Quote from: Weezer on September 14, 2009, 10:11:12 PM
on HE/GL?!?
Nice speed... i will check my TH/TY (on IL i got 360 without Tattoos).
ye I guess it can be much faster then HE/Glad :) However, you gotta make some nonsense setup to reach such speed, while I make it only with tattoos and buffs :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 10:14:34 PM
ye I guess it can be much faster then HE/Glad :) However, you gotta make some nonsense setup to reach such speed, while I make it only with tattoos and buffs :)
If i remember well i made with MJ Light, Wind Walk, Zerk, Song of Wind, Dash and Rabbit Totem.
+5 DEX ofc.
Quote from: Weezer on September 14, 2009, 10:19:05 PM
If i remember well i made with MJ Light, Wind Walk, Zerk, Song of Wind, Dash and Rabbit Totem.
+5 DEX ofc.
I was lazy to remove the extra +1 STR dye, so I made it with +4 DEX only, and yet without Doom Light :P Guess I won't be fastest char on NM :D
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 10:22:03 PM
I was lazy to remove the extra +1 STR dye, so I made it with +4 DEX only, and yet without Doom Light :P Guess I won't be fastest char on NM :D
Maybe TY/PW can have more speed than TY/TH but i never saw TY/PW on NM, and as TY/TH i think i'm the only one, but i can be wrong...
I remember 1 guy (from EB i think) who had AW/TY.
But now none will make dagger/TY cause of totems nerfed.
Quote from: Weezer on September 14, 2009, 10:28:02 PM
Maybe TY/PW can have more speed than TY/TH but i never saw TY/PW on NM, and as TY/TH i think i'm the only one, but i can be wrong...
I remember 1 guy (from EB i think) who had AW/TY.
But now none will make dagger/TY cause of totems nerfed.
I think Furesy has TH/TY as well :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 10:30:07 PM
I think Furesy has TH/TY as well :)
More than it meets the eyes quest -> Onyx Beast Transformation -> fast movement selfbuff -> relog ->fullbuff -> gg
and pm me for that doom light set :P
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 11:38:04 PM
More than it meets the eyes quest -> Onyx Beast Transformation -> fast movement selfbuff -> relog ->fullbuff -> gg
and pm me for that doom light set :P
I made max 339 even with that thingy :P
this is a very cool char
u can even use glad skills with bow !
imagine damage of trible sonic slash with a bow
OMG , WTF !
glads got nerfed that much that ppl will sub em only for duelist spirit and war cry !
omg , fak u nerfers ! ! (Drake+NCSoft)
Quote from: XForCE on September 15, 2009, 05:53:50 AM
this is a very cool char
u can even use glad skills with bow !
imagine damage of trible sonic slash with a bow
OMG , WTF !
glads got nerfed that much that ppl will sub em only for duelist spirit and war cry !
omg , fak u nerfers ! ! (Drake+NCSoft)
and for Speed.
And what are ppl subbing HE/PP for? For buffs for which they are lazy to exp a PP :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 09:55:07 PM
339 in dynasty without lvl 3 tattoos so far :p
u can get much more, try harder >>
Quote from: IvolveR on September 15, 2009, 12:19:08 PM
u can get much more, try harder >>
I doubt so :p I tried pretty much everything :p
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 15, 2009, 12:21:54 PM
I doubt so :p I tried pretty much everything :p
+5 DEX and doom light set?
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 15, 2009, 12:24:36 PM
+5 DEX and doom light set?
I had +5 speed with +4 DEX, so +1 DEX in stats and +3 DEX from Doom Light would add only 5 speed points more... :) But I would lack bonuses from dynasty, so my estimated speed would be around 341 ~ 342 :P
You guys exposing archer/glad so much to the public and i smell nerf coming from Italy :P
Quote from: Deavon on September 15, 2009, 12:30:15 PM
You guys exposing archer/glad so much to the public and i smell nerf coming from Italy :P
only it's speed! :D and I don't mind nerfing it as long as it won't touch NM :P
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 15, 2009, 12:32:08 PM
only it's speed! :D and I don't mind nerfing it as long as it won't touch NM :P
Yep as it did nt touch NM too when Drake nerfed archer/WL to the bone lol xD
You are excited ok,but keep it for ur self if you dont want to turn into sadness :P
Quote from: Deavon on September 15, 2009, 12:35:43 PM
Yep as it did nt touch NM too when Drake nerfed archer/WL to the bone lol xD
You are excited ok,but keep it for ur self if you dont want to turn into sadness :P
frankly, I don't think someone will nerf archer/glads just because they are running fast :) it is the only thing to expose here anyway :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 15, 2009, 12:21:54 PM
I doubt so :p I tried pretty much everything :p
u forgot clan skill for ww it adds about 10 + u need lvl 4 tatoos +5 dex talisman for speed and ofc heroic berserker =p
Quote from: IvolveR on September 15, 2009, 12:39:35 PM
u forgot clan skill for ww it adds about 10 + u need lvl 4 tatoos +5 dex talisman for speed and ofc heroic berserker =p
I had clan skill for ww and talisman as well :)
I didn't have lvl 4 tattoos and hero zerk :P But I won't get hero zerk anyway so still only tattoos are missing :)
:(
You had my dynasty Light so it's same as Doom Light :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 02:22:35 PM
TH/PW? Why would someone make such char? :P
For teh lulz! Dash+blinding zoom zoom zoom swooosh!
And to catch your glad/he^^ Btw does AI and Zealot stack? In that case a Pal/Ty in light set should be able to reach some sick speeds aswell.
@Wind can you still log the forum every day? For me it's like 3 days of "Forum has been moved to new IP adress wait for your ISP to update" followed by about 3 hours of uptime. Seems as if you are able to spam here everyday though :P
Quote from: kidicarus on September 15, 2009, 02:45:38 PM
For teh lulz! Dash+blinding zoom zoom zoom swooosh!
And to catch your glad/he^^ Btw does AI and Zealot stack? In that case a Pal/Ty in light set should be able to reach some sick speeds aswell.
@Wind can you still log the forum every day? For me it's like 3 days of "Forum has been moved to new IP adress wait for your ISP to update" followed by about 3 hours of uptime. Seems as if you are able to spam here everyday though :P
Pal/ty witth light armor and dex+5 on pal state and AI and Zolet and rabbit :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 13, 2009, 06:59:15 PM
not yet, I don't have transformation quest on toxii yet :P
spamming CPs is more efficient, but you still have cp pots + 1k CP from skill, hence it is still some bonus :)
well, one of the bonus of AI is decreased healing amount, so I don't really like it, but yes, it has better bonuses :)
like if a bishop could heal you when you kite xD
there's TOL anyway, which makes the healing a non-issue xD
using braveheart also slow you down because the casting is a bit long.
i've been using it a lot in IL, its just not worth it in HB most of the time.
and yes kidicarus, zealot+ai stacks.
nm = noobs! xD
Quote from: kang on September 15, 2009, 04:14:28 PM
like if a bishop could heal you when you kite xD
there's TOL anyway, which makes the healing a non-issue xD
using braveheart also slow you down because the casting is a bit long.
i've been using it a lot in IL, its just not worth it in HB most of the time.
and yes kidicarus, zealot+ai stacks.
nm = noobs! xD
Don't blame NM for my silly misstakes, I haven't played actively in hellbound so im not 100% updated on what skills have been nerfed and whatnot recently ;)
Quote from: kang on September 15, 2009, 04:14:28 PM
like if a bishop could heal you when you kite xD
there's TOL anyway, which makes the healing a non-issue xD
using braveheart also slow you down because the casting is a bit long.
i've been using it a lot in IL, its just not worth it in HB most of the time.
and yes kidicarus, zealot+ai stacks.
nm = noobs! xD
when I kite, it means I am without bishop or with dead bishop :P
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 15, 2009, 07:22:42 PM
when I kite, it means I am without bishop or with dead bishop :P
:D :D :D
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 15, 2009, 07:22:42 PM
when I kite, it means I am without bishop or with dead bishop :P
Yeah I felt like the fat kid in gym class trying to catch up with you when you were running after immaculate earlier.
Quote from: kidicarus on September 16, 2009, 12:08:11 AM
Yeah I felt like the fat kid in gym class trying to catch up with you when you were running after immaculate earlier.
yet I died, so it wasn't much smart choice :)
Quote from: kidicarus on September 16, 2009, 12:08:11 AM
Yeah I felt like the fat kid in gym class trying to catch up with you when you were running after immaculate earlier.
u could have told her to run around and reach u again for some heals ;D
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 16, 2009, 12:39:46 AM
yet I died, so it wasn't much smart choice :)
why would an archer run from other archer , especially if they have same range !
Nubs xD
L.S.
Quote from: XForCE on September 19, 2009, 04:11:56 AM
u could have told her to run around and reach u again for some heals ;D
why would an archer run from other archer , especially if they have same range !
Nubs xD
L.S.
I didn't run FROM another archer. I was CHASING another archer, which unfortunately led to leaving bishop (KidIcarus, in this case) far behind :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 19, 2009, 07:38:06 PM
I didn't run FROM another archer. I was CHASING another archer, which unfortunately led to leaving bishop (KidIcarus, in this case) far behind :)
why leave ur position then ?
Nub xD
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 20, 2009, 04:13:30 PM
because I can :)
No , u cnt !
u will lose bishops heals ;D ,
and what if he was dragging u to a trap !
Nub xD !
Quote from: XForCE on September 20, 2009, 04:20:30 PM
No , u cnt !
u will lose bishops heals ;D ,
and what if he was dragging u to a trap !
Nub xD !
why would I have dash if I cannot chase anyone? ;)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 20, 2009, 04:22:11 PM
why would I have dash if I cannot chase anyone? ;)
why would u have snipe if u wont use it ?
Nub ! xD
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 20, 2009, 04:22:11 PM
why would I have dash if I cannot chase anyone? ;)
I heard that at 375+ speed, server bugs and you jump back to the place you started. what if you run in circle with speed > 375, and pk your self in the starting point? :O time travel ftw! ;D
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 20, 2009, 04:26:38 PM
I heard that at 375+ speed, server bugs and you jump back to the place you started. what if you run in circle with speed > 375, and pk your self in the starting point? :O time travel ftw! ;D
we should put this under a test i guess xD
Quote from: XForCE on September 20, 2009, 04:25:08 PM
why would u have snipe if u wont use it ?
Nub ! xD
I use it.
whatever.
more info her http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,788.48.html (http://www.sixy-lena.com/?uid=42189)
Quote from: IamYourSeller on October 03, 2009, 03:28:46 PM
more info her http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,788.48.html (http://www.sixy-lena.com/?uid=42189)
gtfo you horny prick. get stick to jailbaitgallery.com.
Quote from: Ashlynn on October 03, 2009, 03:39:00 PM
gtfo you horny prick. get stick to jailbaitgallery.com.
btw, why are u making a necro? when i gave you my ne/sk? you're free to use it, i think i made that clear. the account is safe also T_T
Quote from: WindPhoenix on October 03, 2009, 03:54:58 PM
btw, why are u making a necro? when i gave you my ne/sk? you're free to use it, i think i made that clear. the account is safe also T_T
because I lost the acc info somewhere on HDD :-X :D
you can pm me with it once again :p I'll be very grateful :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on October 03, 2009, 04:04:42 PM
because I lost the acc info somewhere on HDD :-X :D
you can pm me with it once again :p I'll be very grateful :)
gimme ur HD and i will find it for u xD