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Poll
Question: Which should we keep?
Option 1: 18% increase in M.atk and +5% reuse
Option 2: 24 Buffslots
Option 3: Both
Option 4: Neither
Title: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Zuluman on October 26, 2009, 07:25:09 PM
Most people would agree that having both is a joke, so what do you think?

I think mages only need one of the two in make them more balanced with archers.
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Zuluman on October 26, 2009, 07:44:45 PM
Btw.. for the tards voting neither. Don't deny it wasn't unbalanced lol.
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Sali on October 26, 2009, 07:57:19 PM
what i think is, 24 buffs slots in hb is faking abnormal.
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: ColdBuffs on October 26, 2009, 08:02:38 PM
Quote from: Sali on October 26, 2009, 07:57:19 PM
what i think is, 24 buffs slots in hb is faking abnormal.
+1
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: SyD on October 26, 2009, 09:42:14 PM
OK +18% dmg but need more buffslots. And everyone be happy! :)
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: TomekAlmighty on October 27, 2009, 12:40:27 AM
Yea, make 50 buffslots so you can fight with kiss of eva under wather, and every noob is gonna be fullbuffed with all ressists plx!

The funny thing is that the ones that were so loud with their "qq moar" replays to the complaining mages about the unbalance are complaining now lol. If your so "cool" and laugh at people that complain about unbalance, than why the freak do you do the same now? It really makes no sence and makes you look really dumb.  (my replay isnt really ment just for zulu, but lots of others "qq moar" spammers too.)

Damn i guess i really hate it when someone spams the qq crap here xD

I think adding an extra bar for potions and an extra bar for debuffs would be cool, probably the +18% m.attack should be removed too.
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: kang on October 27, 2009, 12:45:05 AM
Quote from: Zuluman on October 26, 2009, 07:44:45 PM
Btw.. for the tards voting neither. Don't deny it wasn't unbalanced lol.
was only 1 decent mage pt in hb, it was newmdk. vs archers with icarus and they had am's they won without losing cp.
other mages are frags, rly lol
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: trooperXkoki on October 27, 2009, 02:06:59 AM
24 buffslots + atributes will be good?
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Marinella on October 27, 2009, 08:50:38 AM
agree with
Quote from: Sali on October 26, 2009, 07:57:19 PM
what i think is, 24 buffs slots in hb is faking abnormal.
safe mages dmg and increase buff slots, mby not so many like it was, but at least more than now, coz of HB skills
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: thehunted on October 27, 2009, 10:08:04 AM
I don't even get why we're having this poll. In one of his previous posts TrackZero said the +18% m.attack increase was meant for the old buffbar. Meaning, that the 24 slot containing buffbar was unplanned. In my opinion he should just stick to his original plan/words.
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Zuluman on October 27, 2009, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: thehunted on October 27, 2009, 10:08:04 AM
I don't even get why we're having this poll. In one of his previous posts TrackZero said the +18% m.attack increase was meant for the old buffbar. Meaning, that the 24 slot containing buffbar was unplanned. In my opinion he should just stick to his original plan/words.

Because it was said that the 18% m.atk would be reduced/removed. Thing is for alot of fighter classes 24 buffs just isn't enough. I play he/pal and even on standard buffs (without xxx resist's) free buffslots are scarce for me.

I would prefer mages to keep their 18% extra M.atk and their 5% reuse rate and just have an increase in buffslots.
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Mijamoto on October 27, 2009, 08:21:42 PM
Quote from: Sali on October 26, 2009, 07:57:19 PM
what i think is, 24 buffs slots in hb is faking abnormal.

+1
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Sephiroth on October 27, 2009, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on October 27, 2009, 12:40:27 AM
Yea, make 50 buffslots so you can fight with kiss of eva under wather, and every noob is gonna be fullbuffed with all ressists plx!

The funny thing is that the ones that were so loud with their "qq moar" replays to the complaining mages about the unbalance are complaining now lol. If your so "cool" and laugh at people that complain about unbalance, than why the freak do you do the same now? It really makes no sence and makes you look really dumb.  (my replay isnt really ment just for zulu, but lots of others "qq moar" spammers too.)

Damn i guess i really hate it when someone spams the qq crap here xD

I think adding an extra bar for potions and an extra bar for debuffs would be cool, probably the +18% m.attack should be removed too.

A big +1
Also for the anti-QQ part,they ( archers ) r not anymore gods pressing F1 with an OP bow,now that they've got to use their brain (once again) they just search the easy solution.I vote for fixing BladeStorm as it was ( -90% M.Atack ),and implement new atribute system,plus what Tomek said.Then we'll see what happens...

Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: asdf on October 28, 2009, 01:08:43 AM
like now it's ok.
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Viciaa on October 28, 2009, 12:45:23 PM
in times with with buff improves is balanced, u all cry bcz u wanna use full resists for mage, now is good u can hit me for 3k and i cant hit u for 3k on m crit, no more slots and no more nerf
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Mijamoto on October 28, 2009, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: Viciaa on October 28, 2009, 12:45:23 PM
in times with with buff improves is balanced, u all cry bcz u wanna use full resists for mage, now is good u can hit me for 3k and i cant hit u for 3k on m crit, no more slots and no more nerf

WRONG!

I want to have at least anti-warrior def/attack buffs (skills, pots)  100% on me. Then maybe ill say nerf mages or smthing. As u see a lot of ppl dont care about +18% mage pvp dmg, but all hate buff slot nerf.
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: kang on October 28, 2009, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: Viciaa on October 28, 2009, 12:45:23 PM
in times with with buff improves is balanced, u all cry bcz u wanna use full resists for mage, now is good u can hit me for 3k and i cant hit u for 3k on m crit, no more slots and no more nerf
actually if you have ws/protection archers will hit you like 500 with TP (ur sps/es i think)
when i play fighter i dont even have warding cause I don't have the slot. we make it on demand if we meet mages, so thats far from "full resist". even getting 1 resist on a class that need 2+ self bufs is difficult and you've already to make compromises
that'd be fine if you werent getting hit for 10K when you've 0 resists xD
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Viciaa on October 28, 2009, 03:36:40 PM
mby yes for warriors more slots , but for mage that slots are useless, i dont need much buffs for killing, in era of icarus bow when attack speed is normall with war chant etc, u can kill me fast not with 500 dmg but 1,5k hits even on TP i have low HP points and low CP, morover rememb that not all have DNET on +6 enchant, ppl killing me fast bcz im mage(i dont think about pal/mage), for example full buffed guy with icarus bow+7 are too good for me, on full buff that guy can hit im on serious dmg.
We can discuss like this to neverending ... im mage i dont need more slots, u are warriros u need ....
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Viciaa on October 28, 2009, 07:57:23 PM
Quote from: k0rina on October 28, 2009, 04:47:36 PM
st0p using surrender   its debuff  :-[
ehh i know i know ..... :P
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: kang on October 29, 2009, 06:42:00 PM
Quote from: Viciaa on October 28, 2009, 03:36:40 PM
mby yes for warriors more slots , but for mage that slots are useless, i dont need much buffs for killing, in era of icarus bow when attack speed is normall with war chant etc, u can kill me fast not with 500 dmg but 1,5k hits even on TP i have low HP points and low CP, morover rememb that not all have DNET on +6 enchant, ppl killing me fast bcz im mage(i dont think about pal/mage), for example full buffed guy with icarus bow+7 are too good for me, on full buff that guy can hit im on serious dmg.
We can discuss like this to neverending ... im mage i dont need more slots, u are warriros u need ....
on my wc/bish i get hit 1K from archer full buf with 12K patk... and that was before the new nerfs. i would get hit 850 now i guess. and that's still without bladestorm!
with blade storm its not even 100 damage lol :) just dont go pvp if u dont have protection/ws/bs imo. you will see the difference is huge. these bufs are just required. without, archer hits for crazy damage.  with them, the damage is unsignificant.
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Evolution on October 30, 2009, 12:20:08 AM
Both. or 24 Buff Slot.
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Shreed on October 30, 2009, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: kang on October 29, 2009, 06:42:00 PM
on my wc/bish i get hit 1K from archer full buf with 12K patk...  and that was before the new nerfs. i would get hit 850 now i guess. and that's still without bladestorm!
with blade storm its not even 100 damage lol :) just dont go pvp if u dont have protection/ws/bs imo. you will see the difference is huge. these bufs are just required. without, archer hits for crazy damage.  with them, the damage is unsignificant.

Damn ! show me screen i wanna see it !

Anyway iam still QQ

BRING BACK THE BUFF SLOTS !!!
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: andreas32 on October 31, 2009, 09:51:38 AM
how about no1 get boost , and just make othr buffline for dances/songs and debuffs?-.-
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Alex on October 31, 2009, 09:58:24 AM
Quote from: Shreed on October 30, 2009, 09:16:14 AM
Damn ! show me screen i wanna see it !

Anyway iam still QQ

BRING BACK THE BUFF SLOTS !!!

I found only this one, hope its ok

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9821/38717358qo5.jpg)
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: Furesy on October 31, 2009, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: Alex on October 31, 2009, 09:58:24 AM
I found only this one, hope its ok

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9821/38717358qo5.jpg)
That's my bow! xD
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: nicedrain on October 31, 2009, 11:09:36 AM
Screen was made before 18% increase M.atk

It's not the highest m.atak (no tattoo, no dynasty, only 80 lvl)

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8394/shot00002sj.png) (http://img222.imageshack.us/i/shot00002sj.png/)

Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: kang on October 31, 2009, 12:40:28 PM
Quote from: Shreed on October 30, 2009, 09:16:14 AM
Damn ! show me screen i wanna see it !

Anyway iam still QQ

BRING BACK THE BUFF SLOTS !!!
check the post history theres one with 12K patk hitting wc/bish both sides screens.. just.. lost in the spam :p
Title: Re: 18% increase in M.atk vs Buffslots
Post by: disc on November 03, 2009, 01:47:48 PM
Quote from: Zuluman on October 26, 2009, 07:44:45 PM
Btw.. for the tards voting neither. Don't deny it wasn't unbalanced lol.

And dnet set and icarus is balanced? Hmm?

(funny how ppl cry about something was unbalanced if they can't use it, but if the can, it's not unbalanced anymore :DD)