about Gladiator class that disappear... maybe is a good idea increase skill crit. rate how on l2 version C4!!!
Quote from: torebronx on November 23, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
about Gladiator class that disappear... maybe is a good idea increase skill crit. rate how on l2 version C4!!!
oh come on..
lol
Yea, boost Glad please! :P
Quote from: torebronx on November 23, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
about Gladiator class that disappear...
oh no! how comes?
a class disappear cause there arent ppl who know how to play it .
most of them in high rate server , ppl reroll for a char easy to play : sps/ee th/pp
somone who really know a char can beat all other class
how about just admit that the class sucks?
Quote from: Argriev on November 23, 2009, 05:58:10 PM
a class disappear cause there arent ppl who know how to play it .
most of them in high rate server , ppl reroll for a char easy to play : sps/ee th/pp
somone who really know a char can beat all other class
th/pp is an easy class to play?
Quote from: Argriev on November 23, 2009, 05:58:10 PM
ppl reroll for a char easy to play : sps/ee th/pp
lol.
Quote from: torebronx on November 23, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
about Gladiator class that disappear... maybe is a good idea increase skill crit. rate how on l2 version C4!!!
I'm sure that would help.
But i wish that Ripostance Stance functionaly 40% back again like C4.
You know: reflect damage, reflect melee skills and buff/debuff skills at cost of Atck Speed and Movement.
But if we talk seriusly about Gladiators, see my post: "Let's discuss about Galdiator's Enchant Skills".
WARRIORS FOREVER!!!
Thanks. 8)
Quote from: torebronx on November 23, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
about Gladiator class that disappear... maybe is a good idea increase skill crit. rate how on l2 version C4!!!
maybe look at oly at nm and then say that glads are weak...
Just exp it and use disarm skill:P
just increase critical rate back!!!!
Quote from: torebronx on November 23, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
about Gladiator class that disappear... maybe is a good idea increase skill crit. rate how on l2 version C4!!!
Main problem isn't crit rate.SInce HB came Glad/Tyran skill re-use time higher and this is the reason glad/ty to be so diff insted of IL/C4.
p.s. I'm talking for ty and ty skills not about ty/des on frenzy.
track never responds to glads because the class that interesting to drake is only dagger!!! :)
TRACK help the glads to resurrect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In iterlude glads were nerfed already. So one thing i dont get - how come they got sonic move nerf (need forces now)?
Dear administrators u should do smthing with classes that are rare played, to make game more interesting. There are not only archers/mages/daggers. Think about summoners, tanks, glads. Not just to boost their skills, so archers take them as second subs, but to make ppl realy play characters. Say how many glads u see? How many tanks are played as tanks?
And pls dont look only on oly. La2 world is much bigger.
Quote from: Mijamoto on December 01, 2009, 02:49:46 PM
In iterlude glads were nerfed already. So one thing i dont get - how come they got sonic move nerf (need forces now)?
Dear administrators u should do smthing with classes that are rare played, to make game more interesting. There are not only archers/mages/daggers. Think about summoners, tanks, glads. Not just to boost their skills, so archers take them as second subs, but to make ppl realy play characters. Say how many glads u see? How many tanks are played as tanks?
And pls dont look only on oly. La2 world is much bigger.
Ain't nothing wrong with tanks, im rolling with 6k p.def on he/pal w/o any hero skils/ Ud's ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Zuluman on December 01, 2009, 03:38:59 PM
Ain't nothing wrong with tanks, im rolling with 6k p.def on he/pal w/o any hero skils/ Ud's ;D ;D ;D
Could u read once more "Not just to boost their skills, so archers take them as second subs, but to make ppl realy play characters."
Now maybe u will get my point? I mean TANK WITH BLUNT/SWORD, not BOW or... maybe u want to say u paly he/pal with sword?
If not answer why u dont play TANK as tank? And then u will se my point.
Quote from: Mijamoto on December 01, 2009, 07:21:32 PM
Could u read once more "Not just to boost their skills, so archers take them as second subs, but to make ppl realy play characters."
Now maybe u will get my point? I mean TANK WITH BLUNT/SWORD, not BOW or... maybe u want to say u paly he/pal with sword?
If not answer why u dont play TANK as tank? And then u will se my point.
I do play it as just a tank when it is needed.
And as a paladin you have to use a sword to get the full effect of AI. And my post proves that tanks are fine, my ability to be a perfectly decent tank, effectively just as a paladin (HE skills don't help tanking much) shows that tanks are fine. If I were to make a wl/pal ofc that would be a better tank, but nevertheless tank skills are actually pretty decent.
Quote from: Zuluman on December 02, 2009, 03:34:34 PM
I do play it as just a tank when it is needed.
And as a paladin you have to use a sword to get the full effect of AI. And my post proves that tanks are fine, my ability to be a perfectly decent tank, effectively just as a paladin (HE skills don't help tanking much) shows that tanks are fine. If I were to make a wl/pal ofc that would be a better tank, but nevertheless tank skills are actually pretty decent.
paladins are so good with sword only because of bugged AI adding both crit damage and rate on sword (while it should be only rate for sword and only damage for blunt). So it can be considered as a boost xd
Quote from: Alex on December 02, 2009, 04:15:22 PM
paladins are so good with sword only because of bugged AI adding both crit damage and rate on sword (while it should be only rate for sword and only damage for blunt). So it can be considered as a boost xd
but their sword mastery is nerfed badly :) so u can consider this as a nerf
we are talking about glad!!! we are not interested to tanks!!! post a solution for glad resurrection
Quote from: Zuluman on December 02, 2009, 03:34:34 PM
I do play it as just a tank when it is needed.
And as a paladin you have to use a sword to get the full effect of AI. And my post proves that tanks are fine, my ability to be a perfectly decent tank, effectively just as a paladin (HE skills don't help tanking much) shows that tanks are fine. If I were to make a wl/pal ofc that would be a better tank, but nevertheless tank skills are actually pretty decent.
I see. I know that Archers sometimes use there other half (tank/glad or what ever). I know paladin is fin, thou it had TOL nerf. But i red topic about DA, is he fine too? xD And once again i really would like to see ppl play glads as glads, tanks as tanks, not as second/support sub. =) Thats mean to boost some specific skills. For example boost tank shield defence, cuz arhers dont use them. xD
Quote from: torebronx on December 02, 2009, 04:19:17 PM
we are talking about glad!!! we are not interested to tanks!!! post a solution for glad resurrection
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1) remove forces for sonic move;
2) remove forces for force barrier;
3) boost dual weapons skills. xD
Quote from: Mijamoto on December 02, 2009, 04:22:17 PM
1) remove forces for sonic move;
2) remove forces for force barrier;
this is how it works in HB
noone takes force charging skills away, now you can charge even up to stage 8, in IL was max 7
Quote from: flamingAwe on December 02, 2009, 05:31:18 PM
this is how it works in HB
noone takes force charging skills away, now you can charge even up to stage 8, in IL was max 7
it was kinda joke, but before we had sonic move w/o forces. So why the hell non official server couldnt put it back to make glads more playable.
But really, making glads crit more would make good-old glad to be seen more on blazing swamp. Not only Berty =) Why the hell mages and dagger (omg noone played those noobs) got boost? Give glads similar boost like daggers.
Quote from: Mijamoto on December 02, 2009, 06:38:34 PM
it was kinda joke, but before we had sonic move w/o forces. So why the hell non official server could put it back to make glads more playable.
once again those skills didn't need forces to be used in IL
they need forces in HB
non official server (DNet) did not put anything back, it moved forward with off server...
ask on lineage2.com forums, why NC soft had to make it
Quote from: flamingAwe on December 02, 2009, 07:53:09 PM
once again those skills didn't need forces to be used in IL
they need forces in HB
non official server (DNet) did not put anything back, it moved forward with off server...
ask on lineage2.com forums, why NC soft had to make it
Once again - i say CARE about official and i dont flame admins about putting or moving forward, but i ask - why couldnt they change the situation to make glads more playable.
Quote from: Mijamoto on December 02, 2009, 06:38:34 PM
it was kinda joke, but before we had sonic move w/o forces. So why the hell non official server couldnt put it back to make glads more playable.
But really, making glads crit more would make good-old glad to be seen more on blazing swamp. Not only Berty =) Why the hell mages and dagger (omg noone played those noobs) got boost? Give glads similar boost like daggers.
Yo , who call me? :) I raed all dude, and u are right ! I have play glad for 6 years in different servers , 2 years in DN , mostly Im very glad to being GLAD ;D. Whatever , I see u say that glads need to be more playable... Im happy that someone recognize it, because some skills like Sonic Move, takes 3 sonic charges away, and i need to press again sonic force always, pumping pumping ( my friends call me pianist xD ) btw in my kpad sonic force is in f6 , its nearly deleted ... u can imagine how many time i press it :D Gladiator is really good char but its hard to play with.I will cry about mages... they give them +18% dmg in pvp... HEY! They rly need to stop boost players that already are powerfull. Glads make critical SO RARE that u can feel it only with Icarus Duals + 4 ( they give 109 Critical Rate, not 10.9 !). Glads rly need to be fixed, I hope they can do something about it.. WE need more often criticals... example like any other mage they hit 5 times and 3 of those hits are criticals... Ty for reading it :p GoodLuck ( I MISS BLAZING !) Im in university , coming tomorrow!!! :D berty88BG - DUELIST / PHOENIX KNIGHT
Can anyone send me few damage logs and status on NM ? If it's possible, I need
1) 2 damage logs with and w/o Duelist Spirit
Those damages must be done by same skill, same amount of charges. Charge skill damege is static (no random damage) so just 2 logs are fine.
No skill crit damage is appreciated.
e.g. 1051 w/o DS lv.2, 1103 with DS lv.2
2) skill power and the amount of charges you used
e.g. 4491 with 8 charges
3) your p.atk and target's p.def
Don't need to be high. Only need exact values. No item details are necessary.
e.g. P.atk 1331, Target P.def 790
4) weapon's name and SA you used
To know if it's with pvp bonus or not.
e.g. tal*dle+SA, icarus*dle+SA, tal*dama+SA, kesh*kesh no sa, etc
Thanks !
fini@wiki aka Finisterre
Btw, I think status affects skill crit rate (of sonic rage at least :P) as long as I tried switching glad/pp and pp/glad. Might be STR ?
Edit
Testing result - Skill critical rate (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,206883.0.html)
Quote from: __Metallica__ on December 04, 2009, 03:55:41 PM
Yo , who call me? :) I raed all dude, and u are right !
Glad to hear from u, Glad. =) As u see at my sign Dievs (glad/pal). =)
Quote from: Mijamoto on December 05, 2009, 12:21:30 PM
Glad to hear from u, Glad. =) As u see at my sign Dievs (glad/pal). =)
Hmmm interesting... I always think that u are TH/PAL ??? ;D :D
berty88BG - DUELIST / PHOENIX KNIGHT
Quote from: __Metallica__ on December 05, 2009, 03:58:46 PM
Hmmm interesting... I always think that u are TH/PAL ??? ;D :D
berty88BG - DUELIST / PHOENIX KNIGHT
It mast be cuz of my awesome sword and insance lethal rate. xD
The Critical Rate Of Energy based classes (Gladiator, Orcs) got increased !!! WOHOOO :D They give it to us :p
berty88BG - Duelist / Phoenix Knight