I am not trying to spam, but u closed the topic before letting me prove my point, with serious arguments.
your last reply was this text, that u quoted from somewhere.
Quote from: TrackzeroBy the will of your God, your fighting ability with one-handed swords significantly increases. While in use, the effects of HP regeneration magic significantly decreases. This skill is only available when your HP is at 30 percent or lower. Effect 3.
my direct reply to that is a link to
the official lineage 2 site.
http://www.lineage2.com/news/chronicle5_04.html
By the will of your God, your fighting ability significantly increases. While in use, the effects of HP regeneration magic significantly decreases. This skill is only available when your HP is at 30% or lower.
http://l2p.l2wh.com/buffs.html
http://www.l2guru.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-89156.html
http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/buffstats
im just humbly asking where u got your angelic icon information from?
the official site, doesnt mention in the skill description the "only sword" clause that u included.
and every good lineage 2 knowledge based website, explicitly mentions the different effects of fist, polearm, blunt, sword with angelic icon.
pmfun has the most accurate info btw
Meanwhile i humbly recall, we had exactly the same description problem with mutual response, checking while writing the post, and the informations still seem to be wrong, in game.
I would say it's no big deal since anyway the skill isn't working... as for excessive loyalty, as for Arcane agility enchant..
Quote from: Futile on December 09, 2009, 02:18:17 PM
I am not trying to spam, but u closed the topic before letting me prove my point, with serious arguments.
your last reply was this text, that u quoted from somewhere.
my direct reply to that is a link to the official lineage 2 site.
http://www.lineage2.com/news/chronicle5_04.html
By the will of your God, your fighting ability significantly increases. While in use, the effects of HP regeneration magic significantly decreases. This skill is only available when your HP is at 30% or lower.
http://l2p.l2wh.com/buffs.html
http://www.l2guru.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-89156.html
http://lineage.pmfun.com/list/buffstats
im just humbly asking where u got your angelic icon information from?
the official site, doesnt mention in the skill description the "only sword" clause that u included.
and every good lineage 2 knowledge based website, explicitly mentions the different effects of fist, polearm, blunt, sword with angelic icon.
http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/race_human_skill.html?my_class=human_paladin
Quote from: TrackZero on December 09, 2009, 04:53:57 PM
http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/race_human_skill.html?my_class=human_paladin
well, i can paste random links with zero info too :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WZTKBl6ulI
sorry xD
Quote from: TrackZero on December 09, 2009, 04:53:57 PM
http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/race_human_skill.html?my_class=human_paladin
so they wrote both.
one description is with sword and one is without.
all knowledge based sites, will give u the info, that angelic icon gives also other bonus effects with other weapons then swords.
Quote from: kang on December 09, 2009, 05:00:09 PM
well, i can paste random links with zero info too :)
nah if u look up at lvl 74 from a paladin there is the info of angelic icon he is referring to.
but obviously its a mistake, because angelic icon gives also bonus effects when equipped with a blunt or fist or polearm.
on all official servers its like that, and thats the way the skill works.
Quote from: kang on December 09, 2009, 05:00:09 PM
well, i can paste random links with zero info too :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WZTKBl6ulI
sorry xD
U better work what ur payed for there, otherwise ill report u to ur boss for 24/7 spamming on DN forums. (he can check it himself)
;D
i control the p. and the gateway ::)
but seriously, there's no real info on skills on lineage2.com :p
sometimes in patches notes ^^
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8892/sanstitreti.jpg)
Quote from: our4n0s on December 09, 2009, 02:37:20 PM
checking while writing the post
use your own topic for that, instead of using my arguments and my topic.
Quote from: Futile on December 09, 2009, 08:02:29 PM
use your own topic for that, instead of using my arguments and my topic.
Guess i don't need to do so, these have exactly the same problem hence it fits perfectly in your topic, you can keep whining, if you knew how little i cared...
Quote from: our4n0s on December 10, 2009, 12:11:48 PM
Guess i don't need to do so, these have exactly the same problem hence it fits perfectly in your topic, you can keep whining, if you knew how little i cared...
green text = for our4n0s
orange text = for public
u wont provoke me, making this to a flame topic.
its merely an observation, that i know u are not intelligent enough, to use your own comments and arguments.
i asked u nicely to use your own topic, but u are just flaming. i dont need further evidence to prove, how ignorant u are.
its that ignorant attitude of our4n0s, that wont get anyone any help.
how does he expect someone to hear his case and do him a favour, if he wont listen himself and act like a jackass?
lets face it, all we normal players can do, is appeal to a gm, that something is bugged and hope that they accept our arguments and do us a favour and fix it.
your "i dont care less"-attitude can be like a disease that spreads from person to person.
if u dont care, somebody else wont care either. and sooner or later, gms like trackzero wont care either and thats how u want to archive that something to get fixed? no way.
i have build my case, that angelic icon is still not working like its suppose to and i have done it explicitly because of the recent attempt of drake to fix it.
i hope trackzero takes his personal time to look into it and do some research of his own to validate my arguments.
and that he wont get distracted by players like our4n0s.
Quote from: Futile on December 10, 2009, 01:15:40 PM
green text = blablabla
orange text = blablabla
There was not a tinny bit of a flame in my post, and even less the will to create a flame topic, which is quite the opposite with you.
You see, there are about ? 15 forgotten scrolls not working ? now that's just only about FSs, what if each one of us would start a topic on the general section for every single fix he wishes to get ? What if, just like you, we would now create 2 topics per FS not working ?
Not to mention other expected fixes, on attributes, enchant skills, or weapon SA ?
Personally, i still consider Nightmare's forum general section, not the bug one and since the fix you ask for is very near, by its nature, of the one i ask for, yes i posted in your topic (a small post, which was over with my last clear screenshot). That's my argument, claim it's not one, have fun with it !
do u know what quote means? altering someones words, is not quoting.
Quote from: our4n0s on December 10, 2009, 02:05:29 PM
There was not a tinny bit of a flame in my post, and even less the will to create a flame topic
Quote from: our4n0s on December 10, 2009, 12:11:48 PM
you can keep whining, if you knew how little i cared...
these are direct quotes, without alteration.
trackzero is well aware that some skills that are obtained with the forgotten scrolls are not working, i was merely bringing to attention, that the recent attempt to fix angelic icon, is not completed.
upon a responds from trackzero, we noticed together that there are different skill descriptions.
i was making a point, that angelic icon does give special critical damage bonus to fist weapons, by sharing links about l2 knowledge based websites.
while i was waiting for the responds to that, u came along and started to talk about Mutual response, which had absolutely nothing to do, in this topic.
the end result will probably be, that due to this spam neither u nor i, will archive anything to get angelic icon or mutual response fixed.
i know that u already said u couldnt care less.
there is no hope for u that u see how counter productive u were.
but there might be somebody reading this, who will think twice now, before starting to talk about something that is off-topic.
glenn u kill nearly all classes on oly with ee/es now, why are still unhappy? xD
Quote from: Alex on December 10, 2009, 02:51:40 PM
glenn u kill nearly all classes on oly with ee/es now, why are still unhappy? xD
He used to have 100% win rate, so he want moar! xd
First of all, you can start your own argument based on your actual in game experiences. I'm not gonna say fists must not get bonus from AI since that "fix" might serve only 1 mins ownage of ty/pal+Bison+AI+SoF+blah blah.
http://www.l2guru.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-96664.html
The original author of L2P, Nyo himself said
QuoteI think the fist/polearm thing was an assumption.
QuoteI honestly don't remember the source(s), it's been too long.
If you really started this argument only by the info on L2P (and other copy&pasted sources), please show just 1 source that showing additional bonus to fists/polearm. I couldn't find any.
It's well known that in game descriptions contain lots of wrong information but here is another reference.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpower.plaync.co.kr%2Flineage2%2F&sl=ko&tl=en
신의 의지를 부여 받아 자신의 전투 능력을 대폭 증가시킨다. 1분 동안 디버프 공격에 대한 내성을 40%, 방어력을 50%, 마법저항을 50%, 검/둔기 무기 장비시 명중을 6, 이동속도를 30, 검/둔기 무기 장비시 공격속도를 30%,
검 무기 장비시 크리티컬 확률을 100,
둔기 무기 장비시 크리티컬 데미지를 100% , 버프 해제 공격에 대한 내성을 40% 증가시키고 받게 되는 회복 마법의 효과를 80% 감소시킨다. HP 30% 이하 사용 가능.
검 무기 (http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#ko%7Cen%7C%EA%B2%80%20%EB%AC%B4%EA%B8%B0)
둔기 무기 (http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#ko%7Cen%7C%EB%91%94%EA%B8%B0%20%EB%AC%B4%EA%B8%B0%20)
Also I could not find any in official update history that tells effect of AI had been changed.
offtopic
I only found FI(Flame Icon: P.def/M.def +50%, Speed +30, A.speed +30%, Accuracy +6, heal efficiency -80%. with sword, +33 crit. with blunt +33% crt.dmg) gives +30% a.speed also to polearm in official.
ttp://blog.plaync.jp/atomansensei/229246.slog
With dex 30(assumed from speed), haste 2, zerk 2, fury, fighters will(+10%), sub skill warrior trigger haste(+32%) and flame icon, a.speed is 1114.
With dex 30, imp.move, zerk 2 and flame icon, speed is 197.
With dex 30, focus 3, sharpen edge(crit +20%) and flame icon(if it gives +33 crit with polearm), crit should be at least 169 but in screen shot, 150.
Btw, FI and SoS(Spirit of Shilen) don't stack with totems in official xD
Quote from: fini@wiki on December 10, 2009, 06:50:25 PM
신의 의지를 부여 받아 자신의 전투 능력을 대폭 증가시킨다. 1분 동안 디버프 공격에 대한 내성을 40%, 방어력을 50%, 마법저항을 50%, 검/둔기 무기 장비시 명중을 6, 이동속도를 30, 검/둔기 무기 장비시 공격속도를 30%, 검 무기 장비시 크리티컬 확률을 100, 둔기 무기 장비시 크리티컬 데미지를 100% , 버프 해제 공격에 대한 내성을 40% 증가시키고 받게 되는 회복 마법의 효과를 80% 감소시킨다. HP 30% 이하 사용 가능.
Also I could not find any in official update history that tells effect of AI had been changed.
can u give me the website link from where u have taken that text?
i am korean in fact, and u are right, it doesnt say anything about fists or polearms.
says that debuffs are resisted 40% more and that cancel effects are also reduced by 40%.
once i have checked from where u have taken that text and i am convinced that the korean site u have taken this from is quite authentic, u would have convinced me.
is it from the korean powerwiki site?
Yes it is from official KR powerbook. Seems it's up-to-date. Still haven't read all but I found some ct2 plus changes uploaded in skill details there.
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,185277.msg2063764.html#msg2063764
Quote from: Alex on December 10, 2009, 02:51:40 PM
glenn u kill nearly all classes on oly with ee/es now, why are still unhappy? xD
my favourite gl/pp's been missing lately
Quote from: our4n0s on December 11, 2009, 02:22:15 AM
my favourite gl/pp's been missing lately
I heard he doesnt play a lot anyway xD
Quote from: fini@wiki on December 10, 2009, 06:50:25 PM
First of all, you can start your own argument based on your actual in game experiences. I'm not gonna say fists must not get bonus from AI since that "fix" might serve only 1 mins ownage of ty/pal+Bison+AI+SoF+blah blah.
http://www.l2guru.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-96664.html
The original author of L2P, Nyo himself said
If you really started this argument only by the info on L2P (and other copy&pasted sources), please show just 1 source that showing additional bonus to fists/polearm. I couldn't find any.
It's well known that in game descriptions contain lots of wrong information but here is another reference.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpower.plaync.co.kr%2Flineage2%2F&sl=ko&tl=en
신의 의지를 부여 받아 자신의 전투 능력을 대폭 증가시킨다. 1분 동안 디버프 공격에 대한 내성을 40%, 방어력을 50%, 마법저항을 50%, 검/둔기 무기 장비시 명중을 6, 이동속도를 30, 검/둔기 무기 장비시 공격속도를 30%, 검 무기 장비시 크리티컬 확률을 100, 둔기 무기 장비시 크리티컬 데미지를 100% , 버프 해제 공격에 대한 내성을 40% 증가시키고 받게 되는 회복 마법의 효과를 80% 감소시킨다. HP 30% 이하 사용 가능.
검 무기 (http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#ko%7Cen%7C%EA%B2%80%20%EB%AC%B4%EA%B8%B0)
둔기 무기 (http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#ko%7Cen%7C%EB%91%94%EA%B8%B0%20%EB%AC%B4%EA%B8%B0%20)
Also I could not find any in official update history that tells effect of AI had been changed.
offtopic
I only found FI(Flame Icon: P.def/M.def +50%, Speed +30, A.speed +30%, Accuracy +6, heal efficiency -80%. with sword, +33 crit. with blunt +33% crt.dmg) gives +30% a.speed also to polearm in official.
ttp://blog.plaync.jp/atomansensei/229246.slog
With dex 30(assumed from speed), haste 2, zerk 2, fury, fighters will(+10%), sub skill warrior trigger haste(+32%) and flame icon, a.speed is 1114.
With dex 30, imp.move, zerk 2 and flame icon, speed is 197.
With dex 30, focus 3, sharpen edge(crit +20%) and flame icon(if it gives +33 crit with polearm), crit should be at least 169 but in screen shot, 150.
Btw, FI and SoS(Spirit of Shilen) don't stack with totems in official xD
here flame icon gives like 10%pdef/mdef bonus, dunno if its bug or made on purpose(customized), however its making it a lil bit useless
Quote from: Phate on December 11, 2009, 08:55:30 AM
here flame icon gives like 10%pdef/mdef bonus, dunno if its bug or made on purpose(customized), however its making it a lil bit useless
Wasted coins ;D
Quote from: zippobg on December 11, 2009, 09:09:07 AM
Wasted coins ;D
well skill is usefull for myself (if u think about where and how to use it) but its supposed to be for party benefits in first place -> for that matter, yea, wasted coins :P