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Title: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: lordelfakoz on January 08, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Dear Track now that mages have their attribute system working can you remove the 9% pvp dmg boost?
Its so retarded to get from necro 9k+ dmg critical when i have 2100 mdef and unholy resistance. You may say buff yourself properly buuuut even though with my calculations with extra divine protection,alignment dance and invocation song dmg drops to 3600 which is still too big.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Zuluman on January 08, 2010, 11:35:11 PM
put attribute on your weapon and pew pew em back for 6k :D
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 09, 2010, 01:54:34 AM
Quote from: lordelfakoz on January 08, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Dear Track now that mages have their attribute system working can you remove the 9% pvp dmg boost?
Its so retarded to get from necro 9k+ dmg critical when i have 2100 mdef and unholy resistance. You may say buff yourself properly buuuut even though with my calculations with extra divine protection,alignment dance and invocation song dmg drops to 3600 which is still too big.
You are late for 1st cry topic, it was ungos epic one! But ok 2nd ...
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: chlipus on January 09, 2010, 05:37:42 AM
Quote from: lordelfakoz on January 08, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Dear Track now that mages have their attribute system working can you remove the 9% pvp dmg boost?
Its so retarded to get from necro 9k+ dmg critical when i have 2100 mdef and unholy resistance. You may say buff yourself properly buuuut even though with my calculations with extra divine protection,alignment dance and invocation song dmg drops to 3600 which is still too big.

QQ put atribute on your weapon armour and buy pots from atribute master QQ
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: lordelfakoz on January 09, 2010, 08:08:17 AM
Quote from: chlipus on January 09, 2010, 05:37:42 AM
QQ put atribute on your weapon armour and buy pots from atribute master QQ

Mr QQ attribute potions can't be used with resistance buffs so don't try play it smart. And btw you think i am gonna waste 4 buff slots for resistance buffs for each one of you if all mage types are in a party to get afterwards 3k crits? Where i am gonna put attack type  buffs?
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: scary on January 09, 2010, 08:12:21 AM
well tbh  im playing  DN since c3, and for first time i got crit like 11-15k from a mage (necro) .....  :-\
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: lordelfakoz on January 09, 2010, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on January 09, 2010, 01:54:34 AM
You are late for 1st cry topic, it was ungos epic one! But ok 2nd ...

That wasn't the answer i expexted. You could say for example: Yes i will do something for mages pvp damage or no i won't remove the pvp bonus damage but i will fix (this year) bugged protections of rune/elemental/alignment to be activated correctly by all attacks and not by melee dmg only.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Diver on January 09, 2010, 09:23:07 AM
It strange that necro hit so strong now coz all other mages don't...
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: cthon on January 09, 2010, 09:51:15 AM
Quote from: lordelfakoz on January 09, 2010, 08:40:16 AM
That wasn't the answer i expexted. You could say for example: Yes i will do something for mages pvp damage or no i won't remove the pvp bonus damage but i will fix (this year) bugged protections of rune/elemental/alignment to be activated correctly by all attacks and not by melee dmg only.

yeah they should fix them... i never saw something such retarded as this.. m def buffs activate by melee atks.. gg :D
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 09, 2010, 10:46:24 AM
Quote from: cthon on January 09, 2010, 09:51:15 AM
yeah they should fix them... i never saw something such retarded as this.. m def buffs activate by melee atks.. gg :D
okey
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: TomekAlmighty on January 09, 2010, 11:01:02 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on January 09, 2010, 10:46:24 AM
okey


konec.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: trooperXkoki on January 09, 2010, 12:32:20 PM
loooooooool from when necromancers are > then other mages??? u re kidding?

...mmm let me log and check  ::)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Sali on January 09, 2010, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: Diver on January 09, 2010, 09:23:07 AM
It strange that necro hit so strong now coz all other mages don't...
what is even more interesting: Messelina crit me for 8-9k with ic+a+10, and emek doing same dmg even with lower weapon ;d

Anyway bump for fixing protections, and if it wont help bump for removing mage dmg boost ;D
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Sesshomaru on January 09, 2010, 06:12:39 PM
welcome to linemage  ;)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: lucifsg on January 10, 2010, 12:37:13 AM
have u tried to put earth atribute on ur weapons fighters? atributes made us all op simply cause the only defense u have from atributes
on weapons is atributes on armors only . resist buffs dont reduce dmg made from an atribute on weapon , just dmg made by the skill from the mage.
dagger classes with atribute hit almost more on simple hits than skills...
so it not just the mages its all the atribute system causing this
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: FckMeImFamous on January 10, 2010, 03:14:50 AM
Quote from: Sali on January 09, 2010, 05:13:01 PM
what is even more interesting: Messelina crit me for 8-9k with ic+a+10, and emek doing same dmg even with lower weapon ;d

Anyway bump for fixing protections, and if it wont help bump for removing mage dmg boost ;D

+1... Since i play an archer.. im only worried about Necros now XD!.. plus Attribute potion + buff + song... i got 2 shoted ? lol!

BUMPY
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Neozinhu on January 10, 2010, 04:03:41 AM
Erhm....atributte potions doesn't increase RESISTANCE to element?

Or it increase the dmg?
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: QQmoar on January 10, 2010, 06:52:15 AM
Mages OP, mages OP, mages OP, nerf mages, nerf mages, nerf mages. 2 days ago i got 3k from archer with shield, G shield, earth song, COP, COV,  song of winstorm and p def pot. Got atributes on ur bows (90%of QQing r archers) and stop cry, pls
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: geo on January 10, 2010, 07:23:14 AM
Quotewelcome to linemage 

XD that is so true , just make a mage and dont cry XD
necro rules!!! ;D
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: moonbreaker on January 10, 2010, 07:55:02 AM
Lol people u cry like babies. In c6 necro was real shit, makeing almost no damage, now it has changed. Give necromancers  some moments of glory too ;) Not always daggers and archers must be over powered.  QQ
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Ashlynn on January 10, 2010, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: moonbreaker on January 10, 2010, 07:55:02 AM
Lol people u cry like babies. In c6 necro was real shit, makeing almost no damage, now it has changed. Give necromancers  some moments of glory too ;) Not always daggers and archers must be over powered.  QQ
In Interlude ('cause there is no such chronicle as 'c6') Necro was weak because of custom made DNET set and its dark resistance. On retail-like servers Necro was still just more than fine if you knew how to handle him. Speaking about Necromancer's moments of glory... That was C4.

And yup, daggers were always sooooo overpowered! QQ
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Pawciu on January 10, 2010, 09:28:37 AM
i dont know why, but necro has much more difference in damage (weapon with dark atribute) than other class.... i mean wind and water atribute work (i didn't check fire), but SH and SPS make lower dmg than necro... QQ?  :D

btw: nerf atribute in weapon or fix in armor  ::)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Rudi on January 10, 2010, 10:15:45 AM
necro rox, so what.
reroll ^^
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: seboulba on January 10, 2010, 10:24:00 AM
Quote from: Pawciu on January 10, 2010, 09:28:37 AM
i dont know why, but necro has much more difference in damage (weapon with dark atribute) than other class.... i mean wind and water atribute work (i didn't check fire), but SH and SPS make lower dmg than necro... QQ?  :D

btw: nerf atribute in weapon or fix in armor  ::)

akrass was hitting me for 3k-4k with normal mdef Voudas was hitting me for 4.5k with 4k mdef :)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Endorama on January 10, 2010, 11:41:32 AM
yea necro's dmg is quite insane...i got like 5k crit while being under the effect of sof...
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Furesy on January 10, 2010, 11:59:08 AM
In Interlude Necro was fine also, I still remember my Necro/EE ;(
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: MisiekIII on January 10, 2010, 12:22:47 PM
Quote from: Endorama on January 10, 2010, 11:41:32 AM
yea necro's dmg is quite insane...i got like 5k crit while being under the effect of sof...

Yep now mages are Overpower ::) and Dager are weak FIX ENCHANT BLOW'S ON ATRYBUT :(
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: marks on January 10, 2010, 12:41:00 PM
Quote from: lordelfakoz on January 08, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Dear Track now that mages have their attribute system working can you remove the 9% pvp dmg boost?
Its so retarded to get from necro 9k+ dmg critical when i have 2100 mdef and unholy resistance. You may say buff yourself properly buuuut even though with my calculations with extra divine protection,alignment dance and invocation song dmg drops to 3600 which is still too big.
in our server who hit first win....a archer with icarus boss jewels and dnet set can beat a mage with one or two shots....and a mage with the same things can do the same to a archer....in our server you can get atribute stones+weapons icarus ++++++ set dnet ++++,boss jewels,skill enchants and passive skill enchants...do you think the necro you talking about could have death spike + 15 or 17?
....imo you cant change the style of the server "the overpower"... ;D
and i say all that to be flamed xD
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: AmenN on January 10, 2010, 02:00:01 PM
when I played sps/ee archer can kill me  in 4 hits no problem ,so why is QQ topic  when necro,or other mag kill some archers.
Now  is a problem because two archers +bish can't to kill mag pt, because bish does not have dash :D    Pathetic

(Use atributes for your bow and QQ for fixing atributes in armor simpe) dkhead's (always you can use DASH)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Sephiroth on January 10, 2010, 02:33:01 PM
Quote from: AmenN on January 10, 2010, 02:00:01 PM
when I played sps/ee archer can kill me  in 4 hits no problem ,so why is QQ topic  when necro,or other mag kill some archers.
Now  is a problem because two archers +bish can't to kill mag pt, because bish does not have dash :D    Pathetic

(Use atributes for your bow and QQ for fixing atributes in armor simpe) dkhead's (always you can use DASH)

Archers r made to even 1 shot mages,but mages aren't made to 1-2 shot fighters,easy to understand.And if archer killed u in 4 shots as EE/SPS u'r a fcking noob lol.
And y,this should be fixed,the same for atributes on dagger skills.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: ataman on January 10, 2010, 02:37:44 PM
Quote from: Endorama on January 10, 2010, 11:41:32 AM
yea necro's dmg is quite insane...i got like 5k crit while being under the effect of sof...

Every mage weapon with ~9 lvl of attribute (400+ of attrib power) is now freaking insane. I got about 4 m crits in a row for ~3k dmg from death spike. Whats the big deal ? I was at full buff with songs, cov and 2 protections from EE (divine + unholy) + 60 attribute resist dark in my Dnet armor set + activated Ultimate Defence......

That huge DPS (I was killed in max 2 sec) w/o any posibilty to resist is really damaging game balance. Please, fix it ASAP.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Furesy on January 10, 2010, 02:43:42 PM
Bring back old 'bugged' buff bar and remove attribute system :)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: TomekAlmighty on January 10, 2010, 04:42:48 PM
Quote from: Furesy on January 10, 2010, 02:43:42 PM
Bring back old 'bugged' buff bar and remove attribute system :)

lol
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Neozinhu on January 10, 2010, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: Neozinhu on January 10, 2010, 04:03:41 AM
Erhm....atributte potions doesn't increase RESISTANCE to element?

Or it increase the dmg?
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Sephiroth on January 10, 2010, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: Neozinhu on January 10, 2010, 05:17:39 PM


Resistance.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: scary on January 10, 2010, 07:50:20 PM
well atm necro`s rape xd especially if he have active/passive wm and valakas xd u got crits like 10k in a row :=D
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: FckMeImFamous on January 10, 2010, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: Sephiroth on January 10, 2010, 02:33:01 PM
Archers r made to even 1 shot mages,but mages aren't made to 1-2 shot fighters,easy to understand.And if archer killed u in 4 shots as EE/SPS u'r a fcking noob lol.
And y,this should be fixed,the same for atributes on dagger skills.

Wahh WHO's BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!! =D

anywayssss i wanna test my bow on u.. can i ? to see who's telling NOOB to someone..if he is noob also....

a part of this sh1t..
Ol/xx ( mutant ) still same.. with this boost update.. as i see just Necro and SPS got enough OP to two shot a full buffed fighter...!!
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Pawciu on January 10, 2010, 09:12:36 PM
fix or remove atribute!. Track we thanks for ur work, but our atribute system doesn't work correctly.... Some classes are OP now, for other atributes dont work.... little sux.
I think mass pvp / pvp are too fast... We come for example with one pt vs one pt of enemy and its... hmm w/o sof maybe 20-30 s.
We can reduce damage in pvp, but if we do that we will fight w/o mana  ;D. It's really sux, making regroup for 10min+ and fight for 1 min....  ::)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: FckMeImFamous on January 10, 2010, 09:13:37 PM
Quote from: Pawciu on January 10, 2010, 09:12:36 PM
fix or remove atribute!. Track we thanks for ur work, but our atribute system doesn't work correctly.... Some classes are OP now, for other atributes dont work.... little sux.
I think mass pvp / pvp are too fast... We come for example with one pt vs one pt of enemy and its... hmm w/o sof maybe 20-30 s.
We can reduce damage in pvp, but if we do that we will fight w/o mana  ;D. It's really sux, making regroup for 10min+ and fight in 1 min....  ::)

SPS OP TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :> <3333333333333333 :P
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Pawciu on January 10, 2010, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: FckMeImFamous on January 10, 2010, 09:13:37 PM
SPS OP TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :> <3333333333333333 :P

yea i know its little sux to get on 6 hits 5 magical critz  ;)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Furesy on January 10, 2010, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: Pawciu on January 10, 2010, 09:12:36 PM
fix or remove atribute!. Track we thanks for ur work, but our atribute system doesn't work correctly.... Some classes are OP now, for other atributes dont work.... little sux.
I think mass pvp / pvp are too fast... We come for example with one pt vs one pt of enemy and its... hmm w/o sof maybe 20-30 s.
We can reduce damage in pvp, but if we do that we will fight w/o mana  ;D. It's really sux, making regroup for 10min+ and fight in 1 min....  ::)
Agree with you, just the mana part is funny :) Ever heard of recharge? Seriously, support classes on DN are like dead, nobody uses them the way they supposed to be used. Mages whining about 'omg I can't kill fully party cause I run out of mana' lol

The bugged buff bar we had before was actually the best thing that happened in a long while, too bad it was declared a 'bug' and was 'fixed', PvP's actually lasted long there, and much more things happened in the PvP's (only bad thing was cancel festival, but can't have everything I suppose).
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: FckMeImFamous on January 10, 2010, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: Furesy on January 10, 2010, 09:16:21 PM
The bugged buff bar we had before was actually the best thing that happened in a long while, too bad it was declared a 'bug' and was 'fixed', PvP's actually lasted long there, and much more things happened in the PvP's (only bad thing was cancel festival, but can't have everything I suppose).

Finally u said something nice.. xD!

POLE for OLD buff bar plz x)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Ashlynn on January 10, 2010, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: FckMeImFamous on January 10, 2010, 09:20:11 PM
Finally u said something nice.. xD!

POLE for OLD buff bar plz x)
How can pole help us to get old buffbar?  ???


This is a pole:
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and this is a poll:
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Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: FckMeImFamous on January 10, 2010, 09:29:08 PM
Quote from: Ashlynn on January 10, 2010, 09:25:21 PM
How can pole help us to get old buffbar?  ???


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and this is a poll:
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Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: lucifsg on January 10, 2010, 10:36:28 PM
necros are fine
just buff properly and u ll have no problem .
does it ring a bell ?

no seriously i dont think necros are op , just the atribute system needs to get fixed for both fighters and mages.
if u think about it necros and every other mage before atribute system was doing less dmg than now
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Sali on January 10, 2010, 11:56:07 PM
Quote from: lucifsg on January 10, 2010, 10:36:28 PM
necros are fine
just buff properly and u ll have no problem .
does it ring a bell ?

no seriously i dont think necros are op , just the atribute system needs to get fixed for both fighters and mages.
if u think about it necros and every other mage before atribute system was doing less dmg than now
sorry but its biggest bs ever. Mages were doing LESS dmg? so where i have been since i didnt noticed 10k crits on face, and now it become pretty common to get hits like that. Tho sure others hit lil bit harder but still considering archer crit mage for 2-3k and get hit back for 7-8-9k its just funny, also as Pawciu mentioned, magical crit rate is not as low as it should be at hb, so mages still can crit a lot, and mages with valky crit rate is similiar with archers 1 (around 50%).
Amen: the part about dash is funny, as mark said, do u consider dash as a op skill? bcos it looks like that, but after all with all posibilities to slow, even dashing fighter wont escape from horde of horny mages
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: seboulba on January 11, 2010, 12:13:47 AM
Quote from: lucifsg on January 10, 2010, 10:36:28 PM
necros are fine
just buff properly and u ll have no problem .
does it ring a bell ?

no seriously i dont think necros are op , just the atribute system needs to get fixed for both fighters and mages.
if u think about it necros and every other mage before atribute system was doing less dmg than now

1 month ago with exaclty the same buff voudas was hitting me for 800 :) now for 5k ? XD
one archer with 8k pattack will hit a mage with 4k pdef for 1200-1500 on crit max :) a mage  with 8k mattack will hit for 10k on crit with 4k mdef. Track should make a special Curse arrows  :D
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Pawciu on January 11, 2010, 12:20:48 AM
we dont have slots for divine protection, unholy resistance, dance of alignment or resist aqua and dance of aqua guard  ::)

maybe nerf atribute power  :)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Sali on January 11, 2010, 12:22:13 AM
Quote from: Pawciu on January 11, 2010, 12:20:48 AM
we dont have slots for divine protection, unholy resistance, dance of alignment or resist aqua and dance of aqua guard  ::)

maybe nerf atribute power  :)
and protection of rune/elemental/aligment activate only by mele attack :D
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Pawciu on January 11, 2010, 12:24:03 AM
Quote from: Sali on January 11, 2010, 12:22:13 AM
and protection of rune/elemental/aligment activate only by mele attack :D

yes and moreover they are bugged.... we lose only slots in buffbar
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: our4n0s on January 11, 2010, 12:49:56 AM
Quote from: seboulba on January 11, 2010, 12:13:47 AM
1 month ago with exaclty the same buff voudas was hitting me for 800 :) now for 5k ? XD

sarcasm
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Sali on January 11, 2010, 01:23:07 AM
Quote from: our4n0s on January 11, 2010, 12:49:56 AM
sarcasm
sarcasm failed in moment when "ring a bell", since it was Luci who created all this QQ topics how much mages suck, considering it was only him who cried so much and rest of good mages were silent, but hey, right now even a xtreme archers are asking do do anything after even the most proper buffs wont help u to get hits for less than 3k
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: trooperXkoki on January 11, 2010, 01:43:17 AM
Quote from: Pawciu on January 11, 2010, 12:24:03 AM
we lose only slots in buffbar
and lots of coins??? huh butthurt? :D
y0 there
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: lucifsg on January 11, 2010, 01:55:16 AM
Quote from: seboulba on January 11, 2010, 12:13:47 AM
1 month ago with exaclty the same buff voudas was hitting me for 800 :) now for 5k ? XD
one archer with 8k pattack will hit a mage with 4k pdef for 1200-1500 on crit max :) a mage  with 8k mattack will hit for 10k on crit with 4k mdef. Track should make a special Curse arrows  :D

800 + atribute dmg =1250
make that a crit and there is ur 5k :)

dunno what u guys do with atributes but our daggers hit more on simple hits that on skills. so go find out what u do wrong...
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: lucifsg on January 11, 2010, 02:00:17 AM
Quote from: Sali on January 11, 2010, 01:23:07 AM
sarcasm failed in moment when "ring a bell", since it was Luci who created all this QQ topics how much mages suck, considering it was only him who cried so much and rest of good mages were silent, but hey, right now even a xtreme archers are asking do do anything after even the most proper buffs wont help u to get hits for less than 3k

what goes around comes around look who is qqing now...

as for crit rate only elf class has high crit rate due to wit . i hit 1/8 crit on full buffs.
go add 160 dark resist on ur armor and u see the difference after...
atribute system needs fixes for all classes , not my fault if u dont know how to use atributes yet
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: NYPD on January 11, 2010, 05:26:25 AM
Nice atempt   lol.
You guys exagerate again.If u got 5k crit from a necro  on topic become 10 k , im curiouse if you get 10 k on game how much will be on forum.1xxxx
Yes  one top necro   can make 10 k crit , but ONLY  on  char with out cov, song  and dark rez bafs.
If you have a silmply POF from a pp and dance then i am agree with you , but in game u all fight with cov +songs and let me tell you something
I am a necro with 11k m atk and vortex+3, valaks, wm pasive lvl 10, and rarely my vortex lands so from the start dmg is low.If you dont believe ask me for test and i bet 100 coins vortex+3 land 1 from 3-4 hits.Same with gloom..
Moust of my hits on fullbufed archers are like 500 up to 900 and if is a summoner ...
Yes , if gloom and vortex work from the first try dmg can be much nicer.Oh and pls  nerf mage dmg but make gloom, surender vortex stronger.I rly wish that
Do a archer need any  gloom surender for arrows?ofc no cuz only f1..
Let track test it  first .
And best spels from the server atm are orcs drains and solareflare.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: lordelfakoz on January 11, 2010, 09:11:13 AM
Quote from: NYPD on January 11, 2010, 05:26:25 AM
Nice atempt   lol.
You guys exagerate again.If u got 5k crit from a necro  on topic become 10 k , im curiouse if you get 10 k on game how much will be on forum.1xxxx
Yes  one top necro   can make 10 k crit , but ONLY  on  char with out cov, song  and dark rez bafs.
If you have a silmply POF from a pp and dance then i am agree with you , but in game u all fight with cov +songs and let me tell you something
I am a necro with 11k m atk and vortex+3, valaks, wm pasive lvl 10, and rarely my vortex lands so from the start dmg is low.If you dont believe ask me for test and i bet 100 coins vortex+3 land 1 from 3-4 hits.Same with gloom..
Moust of my hits on fullbufed archers are like 500 up to 900 and if is a summoner ...
Yes , if gloom and vortex work from the first try dmg can be much nicer.Oh and pls  nerf mage dmg but make gloom, surender vortex stronger.I rly wish that
Do a archer need any  gloom surender for arrows?ofc no cuz only f1..
Let track test it  first .
And best spels from the server atm are orcs drains and solareflare.
Read again my 1st post and you will see that i has  a quite good mdef and a unholy resistance buff and DNET set (8% unholy res).You think 9k is normal?
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: scary on January 11, 2010, 09:17:58 AM
Quote from: lordelfakoz on January 11, 2010, 09:11:13 AM
Read again my 1st post and you will see that i has  a quite good mdef and a unholy resistance buff and DNET set (8% unholy res).You think 9k is normal?

exactly , ppl`s with full resist , they got 10k+ crits..
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Pawciu on January 11, 2010, 09:19:05 AM
Quote from: NYPD on January 11, 2010, 05:26:25 AM
I am a necro with 11k m atk and vortex+3, valaks, wm pasive lvl 10, and rarely my vortex lands so from the start dmg is low

u are sh1t necro  :D
we are talking all time about full buff... who go to pvp w/o cov or songs? lol

Quote from: lucifsg on January 11, 2010, 02:00:17 AM
as for crit rate only elf class has high crit rate due to wit . i hit 1/8 crit on full buffs.
go add 160 dark resist on ur armor and u see the difference after...
atribute system needs fixes for all classes , not my fault if u dont know how to use atributes yet

yes, only elf class has nice critical rate. I think was very fine in pvp before we got "atribute system". Shoud be fixed asap.


Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: emek on January 11, 2010, 12:01:59 PM
u all are right, necros hit very hard like sali and other said but i think track should check atribute system in armor. if this work properly try put some stones and jewels vs dark attack (i have 3xlvl9 vs water and 2x lvl9 vs dark in my dnet, but dunno if it works as it should). if not track could try to fix it and then plz start posting bout nerfing necros and other mages :)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: trooperXkoki on January 11, 2010, 12:07:15 PM
Quote from: emek on January 11, 2010, 12:01:59 PM
u all are right, necros hit very hard like sali and other said but i think track should check atribute system in armor. if this work properly try put some stones and jewels vs dark attack (i have 3xlvl9 vs water and 2x lvl9 vs dark in my dnet, but dunno if it works as it should). if not track could try to fix it and then plz start posting bout nerfing necros and other mages :)
i think u cannot put more then 2from each atrib (like 2x2 max or 2x2x1) i think u know what i meanzz

kurwo tak?
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: trooperXkoki on January 11, 2010, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from: emek on January 11, 2010, 12:01:59 PM

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Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: chlipus on January 11, 2010, 01:55:24 PM
if you know how to buff vs necro or other mage , he give you shit dmg

(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8285/shot00143.jpg)

but first you must chose for what pvp you buff  your self,  if you take buffs for arhers mage rape your ass, if you got resisst for mage arher rape your ass
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: cthon on January 11, 2010, 02:22:15 PM
since HB came mages were all the time o/p cause of the 2 buffs that reduce dmg from archers with 66%.. but u still made QQ topics cause u don't know what buffs do in this game...
and atm mages are still o/p.. with 7k+ p atk and lvl 9 attribute on bow i make 1k dmg max on a well buffed mage and i don't think any archer does much more even he is a pure DD.. so u can stop this bullsh1ts and accept that u are o/p that's all
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Sali on January 11, 2010, 02:40:05 PM
Quote from: emek on January 11, 2010, 12:01:59 PM
u all are right, necros hit very hard like sali and other said but i think track should check atribute system in armor. if this work properly try put some stones and jewels vs dark attack (i have 3xlvl9 vs water and 2x lvl9 vs dark in my dnet, but dunno if it works as it should). if not track could try to fix it and then plz start posting bout nerfing necros and other mages :)
2x lvl 7 of dark resist at armore, unholy resist, 2k mdef and 9k on face at inadril siege from u ;d kkthxbai ;d
And about this crit rate, its rly not that only sps have it big, taking as example messelina/voudas/luci/emek they crit pretty much and pretty hard, but true, u need valakas badly for it, still, normal mage hit get up to 1.2k-1.3k that is pretty hight too, so even after hiting 1 crit u can easly finish ur oponent with 2-3 normal hits.
Quote from: chlipus on January 11, 2010, 01:55:24 PM
if you know how to buff vs necro or other mage , he give you shit dmg

(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8285/shot00143.jpg)

but first you must chose for what pvp you buff  your self,  if you take buffs for arhers mage rape your ass, if you got resisst for mage arher rape your ass
ye and tell me 1 thing, have u counted buffs that u need to resist like that? ill tell u:6. And against archers u need 3 buffs= 2 less, so dont give a crap about use all resist buffs after fighter just can get them all. A solution would be giving back and old buff bar ( with 24 slots for buffs and 12 for song/dance) but since its considered as a bug, the other solution is just to cut mages in dmg, or at least remove their boost that was implemented some time ago
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: emek on January 11, 2010, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: Sali on January 11, 2010, 02:40:05 PM
2x lvl 7 of dark resist at armore, unholy resist, 2k mdef and 9k on face at inadril siege from u ;d kkthxbai ;d
I know sali :) thats why i said track should first check if armor atributes work corectly :)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Ozukyz on January 11, 2010, 04:49:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2-zzmCmMVI   
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Inferna on January 11, 2010, 04:58:17 PM
Quote from: Ozukyz on January 11, 2010, 04:49:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2-zzmCmMVI   
Oh hi Ozu  ;D
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: M3tta on January 11, 2010, 05:11:53 PM
Quote from: Sephiroth on January 10, 2010, 02:33:01 PM
Archers r made to even 1 shot mages,but mages aren't made to 1-2 shot fighters,easy to understand.And if archer killed u in 4 shots as EE/SPS u'r a fcking noob lol.
And y,this should be fixed,the same for atributes on dagger skills.

lolz. u r sooooo wrong. its exactly opposite than u said... the ones who r meant to kill one shot r mages. if thats not the way i say then tell me why do mages have low defs and low amount of cp/hp? cmon... u gotta be an idiot to not understand this. archers r meant to deal lower damage than mages but also get lower dmg (i mean in % of hp). mages - kill fast die fast, archers - meidum speed of dding and medium speed of dieing. simple. :)
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: M3tta on January 11, 2010, 05:15:12 PM
Quote from: Sali on January 11, 2010, 02:40:05 PM
2x lvl 7 of dark resist at armore, unholy resist, 2k mdef and 9k on face at inadril siege from u ;d kkthxbai ;d
And about this crit rate, its rly not that only sps have it big, taking as example messelina/voudas/luci/emek they crit pretty much and pretty hard, but true, u need valakas badly for it, still, normal mage hit get up to 1.2k-1.3k that is pretty hight too, so even after hiting 1 crit u can easly finish ur oponent with 2-3 normal hits.ye and tell me 1 thing, have u counted buffs that u need to resist like that? ill tell u:6. And against archers u need 3 buffs= 2 less, so dont give a crap about use all resist buffs after fighter just can get them all. A solution would be giving back and old buff bar ( with 24 slots for buffs and 12 for song/dance) but since its considered as a bug, the other solution is just to cut mages in dmg, or at least remove their boost that was implemented some time ago

woot? 6-3 is NOT 2.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: lordelfakoz on January 11, 2010, 05:19:53 PM
Quote from: M3tta on January 11, 2010, 05:11:53 PM
lolz. u r sooooo wrong. its exactly opposite than u said... the ones who r meant to kill one shot r mages. if thats not the way i say then tell me why do mages have low defs and low amount of cp/hp? cmon... u gotta be an idiot to not understand this. archers r meant to deal lower damage than mages but also get lower dmg (i mean in % of hp). mages - kill fast die fast, archers - meidum speed of dding and medium speed of dieing. simple. :)

Tell me also that  daggers should in reality do less dmg  than archer. lol
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Pawciu on January 11, 2010, 05:20:25 PM
I checked atribute in armor 2-3 days ago. I have in gloves,helmet, tunic and stocking water atribute, but only one parts works. For example if i wear only stocking (no DNET set) i get - xxx dmg less. If i wear stocking + tunic i get same damage like on only stocking. Same on other parts...
So for me armor atribute doesn't work.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Furesy on January 11, 2010, 05:20:51 PM
Quote from: M3tta on January 11, 2010, 05:11:53 PM
lolz. u r sooooo wrong. its exactly opposite than u said... the ones who r meant to kill one shot r mages. if thats not the way i say then tell me why do mages have low defs and low amount of cp/hp? cmon... u gotta be an idiot to not understand this. archers r meant to deal lower damage than mages but also get lower dmg (i mean in % of hp). mages - kill fast die fast, archers - meidum speed of dding and medium speed of dieing. simple. :)
lol
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: seboulba on January 11, 2010, 05:22:43 PM
btw remake freaking FS at 5 coins ......
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: lordelfakoz on January 11, 2010, 05:30:51 PM
Quote from: chlipus on January 11, 2010, 01:55:24 PM
if you know how to buff vs necro or other mage , he give you shit dmg

(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8285/shot00143.jpg)

but first you must chose for what pvp you buff  your self,  if you take buffs for arhers mage rape your ass, if you got resisst for mage arher rape your ass

Make also a screen when an archer hit you with windstorm song,chant od protection,bladestorm dmg and all other pdef buffs to make a comparison to dmg difference between archer-mage on full buff resistance. Also in your picture protection look to be full activate. Ok iam gonna have a bot to hit me while pvping to have protections active cause from mages this won't happen.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Takashii on January 11, 2010, 06:11:37 PM
u should finish with l2 ; D       QQ     :D
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: mortal on January 11, 2010, 06:50:42 PM
Quote from: Takashii on January 11, 2010, 06:11:37 PM
u should finish with l2 ; D       QQ     :D

just like u :P
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Ozukyz on January 11, 2010, 06:54:02 PM
Quote from: Inferna on January 11, 2010, 04:58:17 PM
Oh hi Ozu  ;D
hi ^^
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Sephiroth on January 11, 2010, 07:10:01 PM
Quote from: FckMeImFamous on January 10, 2010, 09:12:23 PM
Wahh WHO's BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!! =D

anywayssss i wanna test my bow on u.. can i ? to see who's telling NOOB to someone..if he is noob also....

a part of this sh1t..
Ol/xx ( mutant ) still same.. with this boost update.. as i see just Necro and SPS got enough OP to two shot a full buffed fighter...!!

Sure,and u'll see how I don't get 4k,even in A grade...

Btw,who r u?
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: AmenN on January 11, 2010, 07:27:41 PM
Quote from: emek on January 11, 2010, 12:01:59 PM
fix it and then plz start posting bout nerfing necros and other mages :)

simple  fix atributes in armor we will see  how  this works.
Title: Re: 1st cry topic of the year
Post by: Takashii on January 11, 2010, 11:13:54 PM
Quote from: mortal on January 11, 2010, 06:50:42 PM
just like u :P

yhy ; D but i still have l2 on pc xDD