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Title: fake heroes
Post by: BeGood on March 01, 2010, 01:07:39 AM
ok ppl 1 more month behind us, and once again we have a lot of nice heroes that I never even once saw on oly, is that really ok?
I mean, i can understand some little share of points, but omg now oly is like who have more chars with noblesse wins, this way normal ppl dont wanna join cause they now its no use, I really like this part of game and I would like it to be at least a little bit fair. Probably this post is uselless anyway, but still Im pissed of cause I worked hard for my points whole month and now I see im defeated by some noob I never even saw on arena. I wonder if its really impossible to stop these kinds of action, because no matter how U look at it its simply cheating, and gm should at least to do something about it.
Gn
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Sali on March 01, 2010, 01:46:33 AM
Quote from: BeGood on March 01, 2010, 01:07:39 AM
ok ppl 1 more month behind us, and once again we have a lot of nice heroes that I never even once saw on oly, is that really ok?
I mean, i can understand some little share of points, but omg now oly is like who have more chars with noblesse wins, this way normal ppl dont wanna join cause they now its no use, I really like this part of game and I would like it to be at least a little bit fair. Probably this post is uselless anyway, but still Im pissed of cause I worked hard for my points whole month and now I see im defeated by some noob I never even saw on arena. I wonder if its really impossible to stop these kinds of action, because no matter how U look at it its simply cheating, and gm should at least to do something about it.
Gn
stop make topics just bcos u get pissed :) and well, look at this from other side, if ur at oly often u meet those "free points" also, so they feed u in some way. Mby ur not good enough to be a hero? :P
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: MaraZmo on March 01, 2010, 07:10:25 AM
Quote from: Sali on March 01, 2010, 01:46:33 AM
Mby ur not good enough to be a hero? :P

This have to hurt.  ::)
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Alex on March 01, 2010, 09:17:39 AM
I heard sc4rry did a good job on killing fake heroes.
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: BeGood on March 01, 2010, 10:31:16 AM
Quote from: Sali on March 01, 2010, 01:46:33 AM
stop make topics just bcos u get pissed :) and well, look at this from other side, if ur at oly often u meet those "free points" also, so they feed u in some way. Mby ur not good enough to be a hero? :P
well I expected these kind of stupid reply because U ppl are like bots of these forum, just have to reply with Your great knowledge and supremacy.
Just for Your information, I was on oly almost every day, and signed just when my skills got reused, and like I said I never met any of these guys. I dont know how it looks on other server but on infi they already have enough ppl to make it almost impossible to meet them. because one of them sign, w8 till starts to count, then another 4 signs( its still not a transfer ppl!!!), and then when they already eliminate all ppl not from they little transfer pt, they sign another 5 and 5 and 5 in 2 sec . Thats how it looks now. But ofc Im sure U know better and in 2 minutes U will tell me how stupid Im and that Im not fit to be a hero.
Maybe U are right, maybe Im not good enough to be a hero but do U really think that these guys that never won on arena alone are good enough? well I wonder about it.
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Dhart on March 01, 2010, 11:41:26 AM
Quote from: Sali on March 01, 2010, 01:46:33 AM
stop make topics just bcos u get pissed :) and well, look at this from other side, if ur at oly often u meet those "free points" also, so they feed u in some way. Mby ur not good enough to be a hero? :P
sorry sali , stupid answer you gave him. It's known like water that olympiads in DN became pathetic...and still we gm's don't do a shit about it...
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: TomekAlmighty on March 01, 2010, 12:15:20 PM
Wow your fast with this post lol... This problem exsists since interlude and the only way to fix it is to make a really long and expensive quest to be able to join olympiad, this way nobody will make this quest with his bots cuz it will be too long and too expensive...
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: +GekKey+ on March 01, 2010, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on March 01, 2010, 12:15:20 PM
Wow your fast with this post lol... This problem exsists since interlude and the only way to fix it is to make a really long and expensive quest to be able to join olympiad, this way nobody will make this quest with his bots cuz it will be too long and too expensive...

but then you kill some people that really go in oly cause they dont feel like make another long shit quest and spend much money for MB being hero... im not on side of fake heros... i think its a shame too... but what can we do... i dont see a way to get rid of those noob chars without punishing real players...

i have to say, sali has little point... when someone join with his noobies to take their points, theres always a chance he fights agaisnt another char... in that case, he just lost points :))
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: WindPhoenix on March 01, 2010, 02:14:24 PM
In time bleeding wounds will heal
Unlike some which are too deep to see
Like scars in a nomads soul
Their mending is so slow
Not the shout of a hundred enemies
Can make him feel fear inside him
But when sun sets and the cold arrives
With crushing solitude in the darkness of night

He will ride across land and time
To find a way through this endless night
There's a storm in his heart and the fire burns his soul
But the wanderer's part is to ride alone

With bare hands he has taken many lives
He has had a hundred women by his side
From enchanted woods to the freezing north
He is known at every sea and far beyond
As the moon grows and the circle is complete
He lies down and waits for sleep
But there's always a scenery in his mind
Of all that beauty he once left behind

He will ride across land and time
To find a way through this endless night
There's a storm in his heart and the fire burns his soul
But the wanderer's part is to ride alone

He will ride across land and time
To find a way through this endless night
There's a storm in his heart and the fire burns his soul
But the wanderer's part is to ride alone

He will ride across land and time
To find a way through this endless night
There's a storm in his heart and the fire burns his soul
But the wanderer's part is to ride alone
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: flamingAwe on March 01, 2010, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on March 01, 2010, 12:15:20 PM
Wow your fast with this post lol... This problem exsists since interlude and the only way to fix it is to make a really long and expensive quest to be able to join olympiad, this way nobody will make this quest with his bots cuz it will be too long and too expensive...

retail / nobless quest is not enough long and expencive for you?
so you prolly have 20 heroes, cause you can make hundreds of chars to transfer, this is sooooo easy....

before you start flaming that i love fake heroes: i never transferd and making 2-3 heroes last months... and fake heroes... i just love to catch them
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: TomekAlmighty on March 01, 2010, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on March 01, 2010, 02:49:29 PM
retail / nobless quest is not enough long and expencive for you?
so you prolly have 20 heroes, cause you can make hundreds of chars to transfer, this is sooooo easy....

before you start flaming that i love fake heroes: i never transferd and making 2-3 heroes last months... and fake heroes... i just love to catch them
I dont really get what your trying to say to be honest...

Anyways i dont play anymore, stoped being active at the end of c4 and stoped completly in interlude... But i was a hero in c4 times alot and transfering points always pissed me off, even if i catched some transfering guys and pwned them, but for that i needed to be online almost every day to be able to catch them... After c4 alot of people made tons of nobless bot chars, some people had over 5 chars nobless so transfering became really easy for them since everyone had lots of chars to transfer... If the quest would be longer and harder, almost nobody would make these quests with their bots to be able to transfer in oly right?
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Dhart on March 01, 2010, 04:57:11 PM
the way exists and it's even quite easy lol , frapsing feeders > reporting > ban ban ban xD is it so hard?xD...the real problem is that feeders are not forbidden...
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Sali on March 02, 2010, 03:21:38 AM
Quote from: Dhart on March 01, 2010, 04:57:11 PM
the way exists and it's even quite easy lol , frapsing feeders > reporting > ban ban ban xD is it so hard?xD...the real problem is that feeders are not forbidden...
and how ull prove its feeder not a player? wear it on a grade set and here u go... and what next? ull tell to ban all ppl in a grades at oly? nonsense...
Quote from: Dhart on March 01, 2010, 11:41:26 AM
sorry sali , stupid answer you gave him. It's known like water that olympiads in DN became pathetic...and still we gm's don't do a shit about it...
ofc, it is, just to point now its bit harder since Class based fights are removed, so u still have this some % of chance ull face true opponent not bot :P And well it wasnt that much stupid, its clear this dude somehow got butthurted by some of "fake heroes" so he came to forum screaming for justice, its a bit pathetic too :P
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: ^FDX^ on March 02, 2010, 07:47:13 AM
Quote from: Sali on March 02, 2010, 03:21:38 AMban all ppl in a grades at oly? nonsense...
i wear b grade on olly and i'm ok xD
doom set+7 on tank ftw
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: +GekKey+ on March 02, 2010, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on March 01, 2010, 03:12:33 PM
I dont really get what your trying to say to be honest...

Anyways i dont play anymore, stoped being active at the end of c4 and stoped completly in interlude... But i was a hero in c4 times alot and transfering points always pissed me off, even if i catched some transfering guys and pwned them, but for that i needed to be online almost every day to be able to catch them... After c4 alot of people made tons of nobless bot chars, some people had over 5 chars nobless so transfering became really easy for them since everyone had lots of chars to transfer... If the quest would be longer and harder, almost nobody would make these quests with their bots to be able to transfer in oly right?


i dont think people make chars only for noble, i think its more players that stop player and other people has their accound and take their points, or some alt/buffer... i dont think someone take time to make a char ONLY for oly... at least not on infinity when its 5x

btw FDX... nice doom...  but dnet ftw :P
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: WscieklyWaz on March 02, 2010, 11:07:44 AM
Quote from: BeGood on March 01, 2010, 01:07:39 AM
ok ppl 1 more month behind us, and once again we have a lot of nice heroes that I never even once saw on oly, is that really ok?
I mean, i can understand some little share of points, but omg now oly is like who have more chars with noblesse wins, this way normal ppl dont wanna join cause they now its no use, I really like this part of game and I would like it to be at least a little bit fair. Probably this post is uselless anyway, but still Im pissed of cause I worked hard for my points whole month and now I see im defeated by some noob I never even saw on arena. I wonder if its really impossible to stop these kinds of action, because no matter how U look at it its simply cheating, and gm should at least to do something about it.
Gn

U have to either make a good char(like bish/da, sps/ee etc) for oly and join all the time and be better than hero's

or

Choose a char that doesnt need many points for hero, get some friends to help you, i mean not only transfer but watching who's fighting and telling when to join and if ur lucky enough maybe one day ull become a hero. Thats how I had became a hero last month.
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: ^FDX^ on March 02, 2010, 01:46:43 PM
Quote from: GekKey on March 02, 2010, 10:37:46 AM
btw FDX... nice doom...  but dnet ftw :P
agree, but when you have no coins and no time and desire to farm anything doom is also ok... and its shield block is nice against prety much any fighter
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Dhart on March 02, 2010, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: Sali on March 02, 2010, 03:21:38 AM
and how ull prove its feeder not a player? wear it on a grade set and here u go... and what next? ull tell to ban all ppl in a grades at oly? nonsense...ofc, it is, just to point now its bit harder since Class based fights are removed, so u still have this some % of chance ull face true opponent not bot :P And well it wasnt that much stupid, its clear this dude somehow got butthurted by some of "fake heroes" so he came to forum screaming for justice, its a bit pathetic too :P
yeah , that would be an idea putting at least S grades ( normal ones not lame dinasty's/icarus... ) as minimum grade for oly
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: flamingAwe on March 02, 2010, 02:30:27 PM
Quote from: Dhart on March 02, 2010, 02:26:49 PM
yeah , that would be an idea putting at least S grades ( normal ones not lame dinasty's/icarus... ) as minimum grade for oly

are you joking?
almost no mages use  MA set.. either DC (or tallum) or DNET
many fighters use NG or C grade robe sets for buffs....
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Dhart on March 02, 2010, 02:47:58 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on March 02, 2010, 02:30:27 PM
are you joking?
almost no mages use  MA set.. either DC (or tallum) or DNET
many fighters use NG or C grade robe sets for buffs....
so the ones who fight in D grade , xD key?
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Spelly on March 03, 2010, 11:35:43 AM
No idea if it possible but my idea would be a IP registration.

Once you registered into oly with a char, your char name and IP is loged and you not able to log with another char on the same IP.
So you really need friends to help you in oly if you want to transfer but this also means they will fight.

If it is possible I guess it is hard work. I had something in mind like they have in WOW and their dungeons thingie.
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Dhart on March 03, 2010, 02:43:57 PM
Quote from: Spelly on March 03, 2010, 11:35:43 AM
No idea if it possible but my idea would be a IP registration.

Once you registered into oly with a char, your char name and IP is loged and you not able to log with another char on the same IP.
So you really need friends to help you in oly if you want to transfer but this also means they will fight.

If it is possible I guess it is hard work. I had something in mind like they have in WOW and their dungeons thingie.
Still...feeds organizations would ruin everything... the only possible thing is having a GM who bans OBVIOUS feeds...
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Spelly on March 04, 2010, 11:29:03 AM
Quote from: Dhart on March 03, 2010, 02:43:57 PM
Still...feeds organizations would ruin everything... the only possible thing is having a GM who bans OBVIOUS feeds...

Could you explain me in which way feeds would ruin it ? Please explain it like to a kid ^^ I only got a under average knowledge of feeds.
Because it is somehow intresting how a programm tricks another programm :o.

Thanks in advance if you have the time.
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: flamingAwe on March 04, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
well, new update made feeding pretty hard task now xD
15 fights -> 50 fights
5 wins -> 30 wins
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: lasombra on March 04, 2010, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: flamingAwe on March 04, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
well, new update made feeding pretty hard task now xD
15 fights -> 50 fights
5 wins -> 30 wins


xD
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Furesy on March 04, 2010, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: flamingAwe on March 04, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
well, new update made feeding pretty hard task now xD
15 fights -> 50 fights
5 wins -> 30 wins
It's still possible, just it will take hell of a lot more time, plus the feeder will lose way more points trying to get the one he feeds to safe amount of points !
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Argriev on March 04, 2010, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on March 04, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
well, new update made feeding pretty hard task now xD
15 fights -> 50 fights
5 wins -> 30 wins


y ofc try to make 50 fight and 30 win with a dwarf :P

when u do it , let me know!
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: SyD on March 04, 2010, 01:38:23 PM
Its a joke, so actually bb for dwarves, kamael heroes?

Again useless updates... :-\
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: Dhart on March 04, 2010, 02:42:45 PM
Quote from: Spelly on March 04, 2010, 11:29:03 AM
Could you explain me in which way feeds would ruin it ? Please explain it like to a kid ^^ I only got a under average knowledge of feeds.
Because it is somehow intresting how a programm tricks another programm :o.

Thanks in advance if you have the time.
2 different Ip's....was it so hard lol?
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: flamingAwe on March 04, 2010, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: SyD on March 04, 2010, 01:38:23 PM
Its a joke, so actually bb for dwarves, kamael heroes?

Again useless updates... :-\

useless?
just check oly.xml.
how many heroes there have only 15 fights? many!
and in some of those classes were ppl, that really fought on oly, made good fights, really deserved to be heroes

sad about dwarfs...but anyway, anyone saw any dwarf hero in eral actions? or only sitting in town selling stuff

about kamaels, we'll see, maybe after skill fixes they will be able to fight, at least kill dwarfs :P
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: SyD on March 04, 2010, 04:15:31 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on March 04, 2010, 02:50:29 PM
useless?
just check oly.xml.
how many heroes there have only 15 fights? many!
and in some of those classes were ppl, that really fought on oly, made good fights, really deserved to be heroes

sad about dwarfs...but anyway, anyone saw any dwarf hero in eral actions? or only sitting in town selling stuff

about kamaels, we'll see, maybe after skill fixes they will be able to fight, at least kill dwarfs :P

Actually i don't know why these hurts some ppl, who never join or fight in oly just watching matches.

With that Kamael skill fixes nothing will change, cuz Kamaels still can't sub.

About dwarves if they can be hero with less fights, less points who care. Now delete dwarves and Kamaels from oly list. ::) ;D

We have tons of oly farmer and they never cry here.
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: BeGood on March 04, 2010, 04:37:02 PM
hmm well, Im not sure if this is really going to stop feeders but its good that something is happening in this direction.
Title: Re: fake heroes
Post by: SyD on March 04, 2010, 08:18:12 PM
FATAL STRIKE!!!  ::) ;D