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which one is better for pvp/rb =)

Depends.

From those 3:
Ol/EE is good in pvp against wariors and mages. It sux at raids or exp (usefull only if you play as support for mages)
OL/NE is very good against wariors, medium against mages. It's medium for raids (normal nuker + buffs for mages)
NE/EE is very good against other mages, good against wariors.  It's good at raids (good nuker + support)

Choice is ur's, also depends on which server, cuz on Arena Ol is beter than necro, cause of mana pots.

Edit:

One more thing.
It's not like one is best, others sux, it depends a lot of your playstyle and skill of playing l2. If you choose Ol/EE you have only to spam drain/mana potion (f1 f2). If you choose OL/NE, be prepared to use many types of attacks (gloom, vortex and death spike normally, drain when ur hp is low) and sometimes for use debuffs. If you choose ne/ee be ready to spam many types of attacks (gloom ds vortex drain), debuffs very often (many of them, cuz chance is less, but you make them fast) and ofc be prepared to controll healing, your self and summon, which is not so easy as it seems to be (know from own experience).

Quote from: Kerth on April 01, 2010, 10:24:57 PM
Depends.

From those 3:
Ol/EE is good in pvp against wariors and mages. It sux at raids or exp (usefull only if you play as support for mages)
OL/NE is very good against wariors, medium against mages. It's medium for raids (normal nuker + buffs for mages)
NE/EE is very good against other mages, good against wariors.  It's good at raids (good nuker + support)

Choice is ur's, also depends on which server, cuz on Arena Ol is beter than necro, cause of mana pots.

Edit:

One more thing.
It's not like one is best, others sux, it depends a lot of your playstyle and skill of playing l2. If you choose Ol/EE you have only to spam drain/mana potion (f1 f2). If you choose OL/NE, be prepared to use many types of attacks (gloom, vortex and death spike normally, drain when ur hp is low) and sometimes for use debuffs. If you choose ne/ee be ready to spam many types of attacks (gloom ds vortex drain), debuffs very often (many of them, cuz chance is less, but you make them fast) and ofc be prepared to controll healing, your self and summon, which is not so easy as it seems to be (know from own experience).

some ppl ig suggested me sps/ee even if its not a mutant and told me its a very good char too so i think i will go for it :D
btw , is dyna still good ?

MoreKnownledge/LessRetardness Subs should work pretty fine.

dont forget about atribute ol need fire on am and nec need dark so 2 wepons ;p

Quote from: gosu2kl on April 02, 2010, 01:32:29 AM
dont forget about atribute ol need fire on am and nec need dark so 2 wepons ;p

ah i got a question about OL , is fire giving same bonuses as for an SPS ? i mean after u enchant Essence + fire will this add much more dmg just like SPS or any other Class (necro + dark or sps + water)

y if you have wepon with fire atribute

Quote from: llllllllll on April 01, 2010, 11:47:37 PM
some ppl ig suggested me sps/ee even if its not a mutant and told me its a very good char too so i think i will go for it :D
btw , is dyna still good ?

It depends on server. If you're going to play Nm or Infi it's "fine", but if you're going to play dragon/arena then sps/ee is bullsh1t.

PS: If "some ppl" aren't your famili don't thrust them, they want free frags ^^

Quote from: Kerth on April 02, 2010, 02:15:52 AM
It depends on server. If you're going to play Nm or Infi it's "fine", but if you're going to play dragon/arena then sps/ee is bullsh1t.

PS: If "some ppl" aren't your famili don't thrust them, they want free frags ^^

im playing in nm , 2 years ago i was playing in dragon and stopped  but sps /ee was good oO they nerfed it ?

Quote from: llllllllll on April 02, 2010, 10:18:40 AM
im playing in nm , 2 years ago i was playing in dragon and stopped  but sps /ee was good oO they nerfed it ?

If I'm correct, 2 years ago was c4 :) So it's huge diffrence.

However, now sps/ee is not so strong, especially against wariors, bcs he have low p def, don't have any drain or transfer pain.
Against mages, it depends on eq and play skill, but most times normal (not hero, not donator) sps/ee got 99% pwned by ne/ee, and 75%  by ol/ee, he can win only agains ol/ne, from those 3.

If you're playing nm, well, sps/ee for sure is easier to make and play, but still if you'll make mutant it's more powerfull, and ofc more rare (cuz there are many sps/ee, and prolly not so many mutants).

Quote from: Kerth on April 02, 2010, 10:25:49 AM
If I'm correct, 2 years ago was c4 :) So it's huge diffrence.

However, now sps/ee is not so strong, especially against wariors, bcs he have low p def, don't have any drain or transfer pain.
Against mages, it depends on eq and play skill, but most times normal (not hero, not donator) sps/ee got 99% pwned by ne/ee, and 75%  by ol/ee, he can win only agains ol/ne, from those 3.

If you're playing nm, well, sps/ee for sure is easier to make and play, but still if you'll make mutant it's more powerfull, and ofc more rare (cuz there are many sps/ee, and prolly not so many mutants).

hm well i played sps/ee for 2 years at dragon in all c4 , so is there a big diff between sps/ee and ol/ee ? or ne/ee is close to sps/ee more ?

Quote from: llllllllll on April 02, 2010, 11:11:44 AM
hm well i played sps/ee for 2 years at dragon in all c4 , so is there a big diff between sps/ee and ol/ee ? or ne/ee is close to sps/ee more ?

You can figure this out yourself from years of playing can't you?

Sps/EE and Necro/EE will be about the same.... except one has necro skills and one has sps skills. I'd go for sps/ee so you could use forgotten scrolls.
OL/EE is not a PvP char... at all. It's a supportchar, a very good supportchar and debuffer.

Ol/necro is a great char, no doubt.. But it's a major manawhore. But if you do decide to make it.... please don't listen to the advice they gave you about enchanting your attacks to fire, they don't know what they are talking about.

Quote from: kidicarus on April 02, 2010, 11:22:12 AM
You can figure this out yourself from years of playing can't you?

Sps/EE and Necro/EE will be about the same.... except one has necro skills and one has sps skills. I'd go for sps/ee so you could use forgotten scrolls.
OL/EE is not a PvP char... at all. It's a supportchar, a very good supportchar and debuffer.

Ol/necro is a great char, no doubt.. But it's a major manawhore. But if you do decide to make it.... please don't listen to the advice they gave you about enchanting your attacks to fire, they don't know what they are talking about.

ok so sps/ee again :) ty

Quote from: llllllllll on April 02, 2010, 11:32:34 AM
ok so sps/ee again :) ty

Gz becoming freefrag on NM :))

Quote from: Kerth on April 02, 2010, 01:03:45 PM
Gz becoming freefrag on NM :))

freefrag ? dont think so ;D

You'll see ^^ I'm telling you from own experience, well equiped and played ne/ee can beat 2 sps/ee...
Anyways gl :)

Quote from: Kerth on April 02, 2010, 03:29:00 PM
You'll see ^^ I'm telling you from own experience, well equiped and played ne/ee can beat 2 sps/ee...
Anyways gl :)

tbh it depends on luck , cancel , critics =)

Quote from: Kerth on April 02, 2010, 03:29:00 PM
You'll see ^^ I'm telling you from own experience, well equiped and played ne/ee can beat 2 sps/ee...
Anyways gl :)

Sure , and you'r the most experienced guy in the whole community so your holy words must be listened to everybody since your truth is above all , ain't it?

Quote from: Dhart on April 02, 2010, 06:59:03 PM
Sure , and you'r the most experienced guy in the whole community so your holy words must be listened to everybody since your truth is above all , ain't it?

He is right though.

Quote from: Ashlynn on April 02, 2010, 07:02:02 PM
He is right though.

He might be , or maybe not...since I'v been seeing some sps/ee that could easily own any other well-equipped kind of mages with few hits...

sps/ol?
sh/ol?

sps/wc?
sh/wc?

someone could give me advice about those subs?

Quote from: Dhart on April 02, 2010, 06:59:03 PM
Sure , and you'r the most experienced guy in the whole community so your holy words must be listened to everybody since your truth is above all , ain't it?

Man :D I don't give a freak, if he make necro, sps or whatever. Look post above, i said gz ang gl, just to cut discussion off, i don't wanna push my own opinions.

About my experience, I've played sps/ee on 4 servers, summary about 2 years, ne/ee 1,5 year. I think i know what I'm talking about (in this case).

Anyway, I've just pointed - and + of every class and give my own advice (cuz thats what the freak he was asking for, so why you mind? :)), it's your (the guy who made this topic) choice what you make :)

Quote from: loXol on April 02, 2010, 07:34:42 PM
sps/ol?
sh/ol?

sps/wc?
sh/wc?

someone could give me advice about those subs?

My advice:

sh/ol - exp machine, rb monster. Pro with selfbuff.
sp/ol - bullsh1t.
sps/wc - good for mangus + drain with sps cast
sh/wc - same fag

Anyway Imo none of them is worth making.

Cheers

Quote from: Kerth on April 02, 2010, 11:58:21 PM
Man :D I don't give a freak, if he make necro, sps or whatever. Look post above, i said gz ang gl, just to cut discussion off, i don't wanna push my own opinions.

About my experience, I've played sps/ee on 4 servers, summary about 2 years, ne/ee 1,5 year. I think i know what I'm talking about (in this case).

Anyway, I've just pointed - and + of every class and give my own advice (cuz thats what the freak he was asking for, so why you mind? :)), it's your (the guy who made this topic) choice what you make :)

attribue are giving crazy dmg omg  which makes ne/ee very good with their Death Spike spam EE casting speed :O

Quote from: llllllllll on April 03, 2010, 01:11:43 AM
attribue are giving crazy dmg omg  which makes ne/ee very good with their Death Spike spam EE casting speed :O

?

Attribute is giving same bonus for sps or necro so? I don't get you.

Quote from: Kerth on April 02, 2010, 10:25:49 AM
If I'm correct, 2 years ago was c4 :) So it's huge diffrence.

However, now sps/ee is not so strong, especially against wariors, bcs he have low p def, don't have any drain or transfer pain.
Against mages, it depends on eq and play skill, but most times normal (not hero, not donator) sps/ee got 99% pwned by ne/ee, and 75%  by ol/ee, he can win only agains ol/ne, from those 3.  

If you're playing nm, well, sps/ee for sure is easier to make and play, but still if you'll make mutant it's more powerfull, and ofc more rare (cuz there are many sps/ee, and prolly not so many mutants).

Bullshit! If u don`t know for sure don`t talk bullshit :).
Sps/ee is still strong but not overpowered as it used to be.Ppl just don`t know how to play it and spam 2 buttons (wich ofc ain`t enough).Sps/Ee is one of the few mages that still are playable.

Quote from: Kerth on April 02, 2010, 11:58:21 PM
Man :D I don't give a freak, if he make necro, sps or whatever. Look post above, i said gz ang gl, just to cut discussion off, i don't wanna push my own opinions.

About my experience, I've played sps/ee on 4 servers, summary about 2 years, ne/ee 1,5 year. I think i know what I'm talking about (in this case).

Anyway, I've just pointed - and + of every class and give my own advice (cuz thats what the freak he was asking for, so why you mind? :)), it's your (the guy who made this topic) choice what you make :)

And u think that counts?Only dragon is being taken into consideration.Ne/ee vs Sps/ee huh!try own buff or full buff and u`ll see the same result :) Sps win!

Quote from: llllllllll on April 03, 2010, 01:11:43 AM
attribue are giving crazy dmg omg  which makes ne/ee very good with their Death Spike spam EE casting speed :O

Atributes are cool but there is one big - for necro...dynasty is giving extra dark defence ^^.Ofc there are a log of water protections but that`s why u can ++++ u`re atribute on ya weapon

WaterGod pls, I know you just say + + for sps/ee, cuz it's ur own char. If I remember well, then you are the naab one from dion? rotf

Anyway, for what u said. Ye, dyna gives dark resist, but whatever. I didn't said sps/ee is not ok char, still, against ne/ee it's no way he can win (maybe except super extra uber luck).
I told about 4 servers, just to say I can play sps/ee too, and I do it pretty well.

If you can pwn ne/ee with sps/ee, then he must be super noob, or self buff against self buff :)

I know many ppl are noobs, who just spam 2 buttons, but it's same for each class.

Btw, he don't consider any other char than sps/ee anymore, because he have no patience to make mutant.

sps/es
gg

Quote from: Kerth on April 04, 2010, 11:26:09 AM
WaterGod pls, I know you just say + + for sps/ee, cuz it's ur own char. If I remember well, then you are the naab one from dion? rotf

Anyway, for what u said. Ye, dyna gives dark resist, but whatever. I didn't said sps/ee is not ok char, still, against ne/ee it's no way he can win (maybe except super extra uber luck).
I told about 4 servers, just to say I can play sps/ee too, and I do it pretty well.

If you can pwn ne/ee with sps/ee, then he must be super noob, or self buff against self buff :)

I know many ppl are noobs, who just spam 2 buttons, but it's same for each class.

Btw, he don't consider any other char than sps/ee anymore, because he have no patience to make mutant.

Rofl get ya shit straight xD.I ain`t no nub.Sold the char a long time ago like in the begining of c4 so rofl,epic failure.1vs1 same gear with any ne/ee and i`ll show u the true power of sps/ee if u`re a nub that`s not my fault...FS > mutants.

Quote from: WaterGod on April 04, 2010, 04:09:18 PM
Rofl get ya shit straight xD.I ain`t no nub.Sold the char a long time ago like in the begining of c4 so rofl,epic failure.1vs1 same gear with any ne/ee and i`ll show u the true power of sps/ee if u`re a nub that`s not my fault...FS > mutants.

+1 WaterGod powa ! bought that char in c4 sold it in IL and tbh that was a very good char , had 1k pvp when bought , left it with 2.5k :)
but now it just depends on M Critical , and tbh ne/ee is more resistant then sps/ee cause of TP and some vampirics , but the bad thing with mutants is that u can't participate in oly but nvm , maybe i will camp on my position (ne/ee) untill ... i dont know :D

Quote from: WaterGod on April 04, 2010, 04:09:18 PM
Rofl get ya shit straight xD.I ain`t no nub.Sold the char a long time ago like in the begining of c4 so rofl,epic failure.1vs1 same gear with any ne/ee and i`ll show u the true power of sps/ee if u`re a nub that`s not my fault...FS > mutants.

If you sold char in beggining of c4, what the hell do you know, and why the hell you're posting ? :D  That's what we call
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/smdouglas82/fail.jpg)


lllllllll let me tell you something, ne/ee is not "just" tp + some vampiric, as u said (btw this "just tp" make this char stand 2 times longer than sps, + f you coint drain gain you can count adventage of that char ur self), it's also many other skills (debuffs mostly). If you know how and when to use them, you pwn. If you're just going to spam 3 buttons, then no matter what you make, ne/ee sps/ee ol/ee or anything else, you can even make destro/ee, result will be the same.

SpS/EE lvl 85 with FS learned vs lvl 80 ne/ee.... I'd put my money on the sps/ee.

And kerth.... the TP from necro is definately not making necro twice as hard to kill.... the summon is dead in 2 sec regardless who hits it.
YES necro is strong, no doubt. But then i'd rather go necro/pp then necro/ee.

Quote from: kidicarus on April 04, 2010, 06:40:58 PM
SpS/EE lvl 85 with FS learned vs lvl 80 ne/ee.... I'd put my money on the sps/ee.

What if I play Noventa!!1!1!!? :D

Quote from: kidicarus on April 04, 2010, 06:40:58 PM
SpS/EE lvl 85 with FS learned vs lvl 80 ne/ee.... I'd put my money on the sps/ee.

And kerth.... the TP from necro is definately not making necro twice as hard to kill.... the summon is dead in 2 sec regardless who hits it.
YES necro is strong, no doubt. But then i'd rather go necro/pp then necro/ee.

There are "players", players, and PLAYERS, if you know what i mean. Pvp depends on char, gear, players skills and luck.
I'm talking about situation 2 normal players, same gear, same buffs etc. I'm basing on my own experience, and on what I saw IG. With my 2 years of playing ne/ee (c4, IL, HB), in fair 1 v 1, I've lost only 2 fights against sps/ee. One was hero with am +20++ (pink, c4 times), while i was using som+a, second was in IL with guy which I don't even remember, and that was mega luck, without valakas or WM aug or siren dance, he made 3 crits in a row (we made 6 fights summary with him, and he won only this one with luck).
Many times I was able to win against sps/ee (and other mages too) even with those who hold red weaps (with same buff lvl).
AND to make it sure, I'm not telling that I was super pro - no, I'm good, but there was many better players than me, also I know some better ne/ee than me, so still, my experience says ne/ee > sps/ee.
I don't wanna judge, I'm just saying what I think and what i know, cuz that was meaning of topic.

Quote from: Kerth on April 04, 2010, 07:15:34 PM
There are "players", players, and PLAYERS, if you know what i mean. Pvp depends on char, gear, players skills and luck.
I'm talking about situation 2 normal players, same gear, same buffs etc. I'm basing on my own experience, and on what I saw IG. With my 2 years of playing ne/ee (c4, IL, HB), in fair 1 v 1, I've lost only 2 fights against sps/ee. One was hero with am +20++ (pink, c4 times), while i was using som+a, second was in IL with guy which I don't even remember, and that was mega luck, without valakas or WM aug or siren dance, he made 3 crits in a row (we made 6 fights summary with him, and he won only this one with luck).
Many times I was able to win against sps/ee (and other mages too) even with those who hold red weaps (with same buff lvl).
AND to make it sure, I'm not telling that I was super pro - no, I'm good, but there was many better players than me, also I know some better ne/ee than me, so still, my experience says ne/ee > sps/ee.
I don't wanna judge, I'm just saying what I think and what i know, cuz that was meaning of topic.

Vitar > you. :D

Yup ashlyn, Vitar is pro :P I respect this guy, he play very well, and ye, he won against me (even thought I was with no emp, and he didn't give a freak to make fair pvp), there is nothing embarassing :)

Quote from: Kerth on April 04, 2010, 07:15:34 PM
. With my 2 years of playing ne/ee (c4, IL, HB), in fair 1 v 1, I've lost only 2 fights against sps/ee.

Quote from: Kerth on April 04, 2010, 07:15:34 PM
AND to make it sure, I'm not telling that I was super pro - no, I'm good, but there was many better players than me, also I know some better ne/ee than me

Next time read, before you respond, please, heh.

Quote from: Kerth on April 04, 2010, 07:52:12 PM
Yup ashlyn, Vitar is pro :P I respect this guy, he play very well, and ye, he won against me (even thought I was with no emp, and he didn't give a freak to make fair pvp), there is nothing embarassing :)

Next time read, before you respond, please, heh.

I just wanted to poke you a bit :D I actually don't find any purpose of this topic anymore, that guy must be subbed for quite a while by now anyway :D

Quote from: Ashlynn on April 04, 2010, 07:57:45 PM
I just wanted to poke you a bit :D I actually don't find any purpose of this topic anymore, that guy must be subbed for quite a while by now anyway :D

Lets spam a bit longer ^^
I dunno if he's sunned already, anyway imo che choosen sps/ee, bcs it's easier to make :P

Quote from: Kerth on April 04, 2010, 08:03:12 PM
Lets spam a bit longer ^^
I dunno if he's sunned already, anyway imo che choosen sps/ee, bcs it's easier to make :P

even if im lasy , i will do an NE/EE but not yet , must wait next weekend School begain already here T.T btw can  sps/ee vs ne/ee win with same gear (Dnet) even if it gives a high resist dark ?

Quote from: llllllllll on April 04, 2010, 09:17:48 PM
even if im lasy , i will do an NE/EE but not yet , must wait next weekend School begain already here T.T btw can  sps/ee vs ne/ee win with same gear (Dnet) even if it gives a high resist dark ?

u stupid asshole
make one sps/ee
make one nec/ee

and test
TARD

Quote from: trooperXkoki on April 04, 2010, 09:21:24 PM
u stupid asshole
make one sps/ee
make one nec/ee

and test
TARD

i was wondering if a dumb was going to post here , i got my answer :D

Quote from: llllllllll on April 04, 2010, 09:25:20 PM
i was wondering if a dumb was going to post here , i got my answer :D

log in game and test with me ...dumbmachine

Quote from: llllllllll on April 04, 2010, 09:17:48 PM
even if im lasy , i will do an NE/EE but not yet , must wait next weekend School begain already here T.T btw can  sps/ee vs ne/ee win with same gear (Dnet) even if it gives a high resist dark ?

It's not so high bonus ^^
Btw, if you're about to start making new char on NM (btw2 gz for transfering from dying dragon to dead nightmare :P ), better wait until Valkyria ^^

Quote from: Kerth on April 02, 2010, 10:25:49 AM
If I'm correct, 2 years ago was c4 :) So it's huge diffrence.

However, now sps/ee is not so strong, especially against wariors, bcs he have low p def, don't have any drain or transfer pain.
Against mages, it depends on eq and play skill, but most times normal (not hero, not donator) sps/ee got 99% pwned by ne/ee, and 75%  by ol/ee, he can win only agains ol/ne, from those 3.

If you're playing nm, well, sps/ee for sure is easier to make and play, but still if you'll make mutant it's more powerfull, and ofc more rare (cuz there are many sps/ee, and prolly not so many mutants).

Quit L2. Please!

Quote from: Kerth on April 04, 2010, 06:22:55 PM
If you sold char in beggining of c4, what the hell do you know, and why the hell you're posting ? :D  That's what we call
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h66/smdouglas82/fail.jpg)


lllllllll let me tell you something, ne/ee is not "just" tp + some vampiric, as u said (btw this "just tp" make this char stand 2 times longer than sps, + f you coint drain gain you can count adventage of that char ur self), it's also many other skills (debuffs mostly). If you know how and when to use them, you pwn. If you're just going to spam 3 buttons, then no matter what you make, ne/ee sps/ee ol/ee or anything else, you can even make destro/ee, result will be the same.

Read my signature u nub -> sixAdict - Sps/ee - working...damn u must be blind ^_^...What where u saying about failing?xD

Sps/ee vs ne/ee pm me on forum to set up a date and i`ll shut ya mouth.Ne/ee has that summon that will dissapear (ahm erase?xD) anyhow do u`re best and learn to play the char u make.

Quote from: DrAkhoo on April 04, 2010, 11:01:37 PM
Quit L2. Please!

Amen!

Few things for end (wanna quit this stupid topic already)

Quote from: WaterGod on April 04, 2010, 11:26:00 PM
Read my signature u nub -> sixAdict - Sps/ee - working...damn u must be blind ^_^...What where u saying about failing?xD

Sps/ee vs ne/ee pm me on forum to set up a date and i`ll shut ya mouth.Ne/ee has that summon that will dissapear (ahm erase?xD) anyhow do u`re best and learn to play the char u make.

I'm not really interested what you're setting in your sig, keep it for ur self :)

First of all learn to read

Quote from: Kerth on April 01, 2010, 10:24:57 PM

It's not like one is best, others sux, it depends a lot of your playstyle and skill of playing l2. If you choose Ol/EE you have only to spam drain/mana potion (f1 f2). If you choose OL/NE, be prepared to use many types of attacks (gloom, vortex and death spike normally, drain when ur hp is low) and sometimes for use debuffs. If you choose ne/ee be ready to spam many types of attacks (gloom ds vortex drain), debuffs very often (many of them, cuz chance is less, but you make them fast) and ofc be prepared to controll healing, your self and summon, which is not so easy as it seems to be (know from own experience).

Nothing more to add.

Quote from: DrAkhoo on April 04, 2010, 11:01:37 PM
Quit L2. Please!

1. You call this edited network l2? gz
2. Haters gonna hate, so fack you rumunka, if you have nothing interesting to say, just shut up. Thx
3. /care

PS1:

Quote from: Kerth on April 02, 2010, 11:58:21 PM
Man :D I don't give a freak, if he make necro, sps or whatever. Look post above, i said gz ang gl, just to cut discussion off, i don't wanna push my own opinions.

Anyway, I've just pointed - and + of every class and give my own advice (cuz thats what the freak he was asking for, so why you mind? :)), it's your (the guy who made this topic) choice what you make :)

PS2: llllllll make sps/ee please, so trolls will be enjoyed

PS3: This forum is wierd, and ppl are tards. While you're trying to help someone, and share your experience with him, you just getting spammed by mind low lvl haters, which just can't say : Ye, you're right, or No, youre  not right bcs 1 2 3, they just say bla bla bla, so freak them (means you).

Ahh watergod, one more thing, no idea why under your avatar you wrote "best sps ever", because I saw your "amazing" sps/ee, and he got pwned so hard... If you want to choose best sps, that would be dontf2ck or nefti, I think you have too good opinion bout ur self :)

Cheers

Quote from: Kerth on April 04, 2010, 11:53:06 PM
Few things for end (wanna quit this stupid topic already)

I'm not really interested what you're setting in your sig, keep it for ur self :)

First of all learn to read

Nothing more to add.

1. You call this edited network l2? gz
2. Haters gonna hate, so fack you rumunka, if you have nothing interesting to say, just shut up. Thx
3. /care

PS1:
PS2: llllllll make sps/ee please, so trolls will be enjoyed

PS3: This forum is wierd, and ppl are tards. While you're trying to help someone, and share your experience with him, you just getting spammed by mind low lvl haters, which just can't say : Ye, you're right, or No, youre  not right bcs 1 2 3, they just say bla bla bla, so freak them (means you).

Theres nothing wrong with people. It's wrong with you. If you say SpS/EE is weak then you talk shit.

Quote from: DrAkhoo on April 05, 2010, 10:06:12 AM
Theres nothing wrong with people. It's wrong with you. If you say SpS/EE is weak then you talk shit.

I can say whatever I want, it's my opinion and you don't have to agree. If you don't agree, just post ur opinion and go on, instead of posting 2 words posts.

Quote from: Kerth on April 04, 2010, 09:44:03 PM
It's not so high bonus ^^
Btw, if you're about to start making new char on NM (btw2 gz for transfering from dying dragon to dead nightmare :P ), better wait until Valkyria ^^

didn't trade , stopped in dragon 2 years ago , gave all my items to friend , then i started at NM 2months ago or so and some friends from Dragon Gave me some coins

Quote from: Kerth on April 04, 2010, 11:57:47 PM
Ahh watergod, one more thing, no idea why under your avatar you wrote "best sps ever", because I saw your "amazing" sps/ee, and he got pwned so hard... If you want to choose best sps, that would be dontf2ck or nefti, I think you have too good opinion bout ur self :)

Cheers

Just to make your stupid ass cry some more i`ll tell u about my "best sps/ee there ever was" : dontf2ckmybrain was good but i ended with 5 points behinds him in c4 and no hero wanted to fight in the last our...he was good cause OE ITEMS...i pwnd him in pvp and got pwnd my self i`m not immortal...but for sure i`m better then u.if u wanna state out an opinion do it but don`t say that sps,sorc or w/e is a nub char lalalala...u`re just a fag,a frag.Bb.

Quote from: WaterGod on April 05, 2010, 01:47:10 PM
Just to make your stupid ass cry some more i`ll tell u about my "best sps/ee there ever was" : dontf2ckmybrain was good but i ended with 5 points behinds him in c4 and no hero wanted to fight in the last our...he was good cause OE ITEMS...i pwnd him in pvp and got pwnd my self i`m not immortal...but for sure i`m better then u.if u wanna state out an opinion do it but don`t say that sps,sorc or w/e is a nub char lalalala...u`re just a fag,a frag.Bb.

Ha? Trying to diss me? Insulting is only thing you can do? I didn't insult you, I've just told my opinion.
AND I'm not talking who was hero... bcs actually hero institution is one big b u l l s h i t, most of heroes are just feeded... (ofc not everyone, there are exceptions and really good players too). I've told I saw ur char (mby it was after you sold him, no idea and for real I don't care too much), and he was geting pwned by random ppl in varka, dion gate, PI etc etc.
And I'm telling dntf2k and nefti are best sps I saw, because I saw them in real pvp (means mass pvp, not some 1 v 1 bullsh1t), while pwning full pt solo.
Anyway, it's just an opinion* and I don't expect you to agree with me, because you have ur own opinion and you'll fight for it till the death (even while it's not true).

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* Opinion (source en.wikipedia.org)
An opinion is a subjective  statement or thought about an issue or topic, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. An opinion may be supported by an argument, although people may draw opposing opinions from the same set of facts.

Quote from: Kerth on April 05, 2010, 02:05:35 PM
Ha? Trying to diss me? Insulting is only thing you can do? I didn't insult you, I've just told my opinion.
AND I'm not talking who was hero... bcs actually hero institution is one big b u l l s h i t, most of heroes are just feeded... (ofc not everyone, there are exceptions and really good players too). I've told I saw ur char (mby it was after you sold him, no idea and for real I don't care too much), and he was geting pwned by random ppl in varka, dion gate, PI etc etc.
And I'm telling dntf2k and nefti are best sps I saw, because I saw them in real pvp (means mass pvp, not some 1 v 1 bullsh1t), while pwning full pt solo.
Anyway, it's just an opinion* and I don't expect you to agree with me, because you have ur own opinion and you'll fight for it till the death (even while it's not true).

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* Opinion (source en.wikipedia.org)
An opinion is a subjective  statement or thought about an issue or topic, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. An opinion may be supported by an argument, although people may draw opposing opinions from the same set of facts.

Oh snap!You`ve learned to use wikipedia!
Dude how the freak could i be in PI when i sold him in c4?damn, seems u failed.Nefti was good dontf2ckmybrain as well but as u where shouting that ne/ee is > sps/ee on : SAME GEAR,BUFF ETC...take that into consideration.Still i will say this one last time me>u no argue about it.Now GYMP!

Quote from: WaterGod on April 05, 2010, 02:12:06 PM
Oh snap!You`ve learned to use wikipedia!
Dude how the freak could i be in PI when i sold him in c4?damn, seems u failed.Nefti was good dontf2ckmybrain as well but as u where shouting that ne/ee is > sps/ee on : SAME GEAR,BUFF ETC...take that into consideration.Still i will say this one last time me>u no argue about it.Now GYMP!

Quote from: Kerth on April 05, 2010, 02:05:35 PM
Ha? Trying to diss me? Insulting is only thing you can do?

First of all, learn to read

Quote from: Kerth on April 05, 2010, 02:05:35 PM
I've told I saw ur char (mby it was after you sold him, no idea and for real I don't care too much), and he was geting pwned by random ppl in varka, dion gate, PI etc etc.  

Man, at first I've thought that you are someone worth to talk with. Now I see only thing you can do is spam, qq'ing and insulting...
Tell me HOW THE freak you can say, you are better than some one, or he is better than you, if you never freaking even meet him in freaking game?
.................

I only know when I played my Necro/EE, I never lost any fight with any SPS/EE, event he ones with huge crit rate lost vs me. Necro's power is in the debuffs.

imo both are good ;)

sometimes sps/ee will win but sometimes ne/ee. depends on luck, playstyle ;)

i bet if i would create topic like "sorc/ee > sps/ee" i would cause 3 rd world war ;D

sigh just make an sps/es and ur fine  :P :P :P :P

Quote from: Grosse on April 05, 2010, 03:24:09 PM
imo both are good ;)

sometimes sps/ee will win but sometimes ne/ee. depends on luck, playstyle ;)

i bet if i would create topic like "sorc/ee > sps/ee" i would cause 3 rd world war ;D

tbh that wasn't my intention at all  :-\

One little thing...

Necro/EE is a mutant, then u won't learn FS lvl 80+ (unless u do the dwarf/bug thing)

I play an Sps/EE and it works fine. U should play what u like the most and stop listening to people's fanatic opinions...

Quote from: Luthiels on April 05, 2010, 09:07:38 PM
One little thing...

Necro/EE is a mutant, then u won't learn FS lvl 80+ (unless u do the dwarf/bug thing)

I play an Sps/EE and it works fine. U should play what u like the most and stop listening to people's fanatic opinions...

+1 :)P

Sps/Ee = Sorc/Ee almost ^_^...anyway make the char u want...u got opinions and options :P.Gl with any char u make :)

A good player wouldn't care,so as they told u,play w/e u like most.

Quote from: Sephiroth on April 06, 2010, 01:36:15 PM
A good player wouldn't care,so as they told u,play w/e u like most.

the char i like the most is aw/sk , i will keep playing with it and i will make sps/ee cause i love sps's hits :> and sps vortex is better then necro cause it reduce much casting speed ext

Quote from: Tinus on April 05, 2010, 03:34:00 PM
sigh just make an sps/es and ur fine  :P :P :P :P