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Title: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: disc on April 30, 2010, 08:57:08 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,217959.0.html (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,217959.0.html)

+1

valkria gms decided to move on easier way, restricted the sub system instead of make skills balanced with normal stacksub system.
This is so drake style "solution", so i think descent, tort are the subregistrations of drake :D prepare for the best op donation options: if you donate xy euros you will be able to use subbed char in restricted zones to. And still no op weapons, and armors :DD
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: BanThemAll on April 30, 2010, 09:02:00 PM
Dont worry only 500-450 players on valkirya since start..

So i guess it wont last long
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Torn on April 30, 2010, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: disc on April 30, 2010, 08:57:08 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,217959.0.html (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,217959.0.html)

+1

valkria gms decided to move on easier way, restricted the sub system instead of make skills balanced with normal stacksub system.
This is so drake style "solution", so i think descent, tort are the subregistrations of drake :D prepare for the best op donation options: if you donate xy euros you will be able to use subbed char in restricted zones to. And still no op weapons, and armors :DD
I am sorry but what are you trying to say? I have read both of your topics and still cant understand a thing
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: DogsAreSoCute on April 30, 2010, 09:06:59 PM
Quote from: Torn on April 30, 2010, 09:04:38 PM
I am sorry but what are you trying to say? I have read both of your topics and still cant understand a thing

Valkyrie = good potential but freaked up by ur StuckSub system .
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: sm0g on April 30, 2010, 09:08:40 PM
Quote from: Torn on April 30, 2010, 09:04:38 PM
I am sorry but what are you trying to say? I have read both of your topics and still cant understand a thing
and you wont ever understand his points because hes the worst cryer on forums i ve ever seen
honestly those farming zones with main only idea is bllsht,hero skills on main is crap,oly with main is same crap because if i wanna play on a stack sub server,i wanna play with my stacking char not the main class only.
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Ventarius on April 30, 2010, 10:04:42 PM
yeah, pay, pay euro for lvl and sub.... that's why they lowered rates and freaked up sub system....
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: disc on April 30, 2010, 10:06:04 PM
Quote from: Torn on April 30, 2010, 09:04:38 PM
I am sorry but what are you trying to say? I have read both of your topics and still cant understand a thing

you don't undersand? then learn a little english.

You said valkiria will be a new substack server, without op donation shits. Then you simply disable the substack(yes you did't cuz we want to play with stacked subs, not without them, and you disabled it in those zones where the higher level ppl spend the most of their gametime) one day before the start. What's the point to make subs, if we can't use them in 90% of game?

You think the other servers got freaked up because of substack system. Wildpussy wrote why REALLY they freaked up, and why not the substack system is the cause of that... The real causes are: exploits, bots, and the overpowered donation shits, bugged skill, NOT the substack system.

BTW what will be you next step? Make unlockable the sub area restrictions by donation? :D
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Torn on April 30, 2010, 10:11:03 PM
Quote from: disc on April 30, 2010, 10:06:04 PM
you don't undersand? then learn a little english.

You said valkiria will be a new substack server, without op donation shits. Then you simply disable the substack(yes you did't cuz we want to play with stacked subs, not without them, and you disabled it in those zones where the higher level ppl spend the most of their gametime) one day before the start. What's the point to make subs, if we can't use them in 90% of game?

You think the other servers got freaked up because of substack system. Wildpussy wrote why REALLY they freaked up, and why not the substack system is the cause of that... The real causes are: exploits, bots, and the overpowered donation shits, bugged skill, NOT the substack system.

BTW what will be you next step? Make unlockable the sub area restrictions by donation? :D
Can you again explaine me "OP donations thing" i still dont understand.
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Dhart on April 30, 2010, 10:23:08 PM
Quote from: Torn on April 30, 2010, 10:11:03 PM
Can you again explaine me "OP donations thing" i still dont understand.
Not ? Icarus and other lame dinasties items obtainable from donations , doesn't it sound you anything?
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Torn on April 30, 2010, 10:26:17 PM
Quote from: Dhart on April 30, 2010, 10:23:08 PM
Not ? Icarus and other lame dinasties items obtainable from donations , doesn't it sound you anything?
1st of all Icarus wont be at donny manager, you can only get it by getting recipes from EPIC bosses then fram mats and craft - no other way.
2nd Lame dinasties are not lame they are official DYNASTY armors (DNET sets doesnt exist on Valkyria), and not to mention that you can farm for dynasty or donate but both options is available.

So before asumming something make sure you are well informed.
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: wildpussy on April 30, 2010, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: Torn on April 30, 2010, 10:26:17 PM
1st of all Icarus wont be at donny manager, you can only get it by getting recipes from EPIC bosses then fram mats and craft - no other way.
2nd Lame dinasties are not lame they are official DYNASTY armors (DNET sets doesnt exist on Valkyria), and not to mention that you can farm for dynasty or donate but both options is available.

So before asumming something make sure you are well informed.
yes that is very good

but your server has no stack sub

do you understand ?
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: disc on April 30, 2010, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: Torn on April 30, 2010, 10:26:17 PM
1st of all Icarus wont be at donny manager, you can only get it by getting recipes from EPIC bosses then fram mats and craft - no other way.
2nd Lame dinasties are not lame they are official DYNASTY armors (DNET sets doesnt exist on Valkyria), and not to mention that you can farm for dynasty or donate but both options is available.

So before asumming something make sure you are well informed.

i see you aren't too good in english.
We say those thing freaked up the OTHER servers (dragon, nm, infinity), and not the substack as you think, so you shouldnt restrict the usage of subs on valkiria, exept olympiad...
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Ashlynn on April 30, 2010, 10:50:54 PM
Quote from: disc on April 30, 2010, 10:45:15 PM
i see you aren't too good in english.
We say those thing freaked up the OTHER servers (dragon, nm, infinity), and not the substack as you think, so you shouldnt restrict the usage of subs on valkiria, exept olympiad...
And your god damned problem is? Are you forced to play there? Are you irresponsible dk that only does what others do? Just go back to infi or who knows what hole filled with tears you crawled out from.
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: BanThemAll on April 30, 2010, 11:19:59 PM
today max online was 562 :S

Too bad for a new server..
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: disc on May 01, 2010, 02:36:33 AM
Quote from: Ashlynn on April 30, 2010, 10:50:54 PM
And your god damned problem is? Are you forced to play there? Are you irresponsible dk that only does what others do? Just go back to infi or who knows what hole filled with tears you crawled out from.
My problem is, the gms said different things. I waited for a good new substack server, and i got this shit. That's the freaking problem!
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Mokas on May 01, 2010, 03:16:25 AM
Well, tbh I'm not that happy with the new subsystem too but is GM's choise.

I'm a big fan of DN subsystem thats why i still play here...the only problem (as everyonde say) is the OP weapons, bots, etc...
The point of Valkyria should be correct this mistakes and "steal" unhappy players from the other servers so they can enjoy the game better than ever. This subsystem ruined everything. There is no point of making sub if we cant use that char everywhere in the map. Trading gear everytime we go to some cata/HB area is exausting.


I am playing on Valkyria anyway, because of my friends and because of the fresh start, but i think i will stay here for a short period of time because 500-600 players in game is crap :S (hope im wrong)


GM's should try to have 1 server that makes (almost) everyone happy...not 1 server that makes them happy.
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Jubilat on May 01, 2010, 03:25:40 AM
ITT: newfags
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Moshu on May 01, 2010, 08:19:20 AM
Quote from: disc on May 01, 2010, 02:36:33 AM
My problem is, the gms said different things. I waited for a good new substack server, and i got this shit. That's the freaking problem!
+1
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Propane on May 01, 2010, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: Torn on April 30, 2010, 10:26:17 PM
1st of all Icarus wont be at donny manager, you can only get it by getting recipes from EPIC bosses then fram mats and craft - no other way.
2nd Lame dinasties are not lame they are official DYNASTY armors (DNET sets doesnt exist on Valkyria), and not to mention that you can farm for dynasty or donate but both options is available.

So before asumming something make sure you are well informed.
do you rly think that someone will donate or farm for a dynasty in this server? u cant farm with your stuck sub, u cant use hero skills on your stuck sub, oly with only 1 class ... and do you think that ppl will do pvp with theyr main class w/o stuck sub skills? lol :D epic fail server xD max 1 month of life if u dont fix this
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Vessar on May 01, 2010, 12:58:21 PM
Quote from: Propane on May 01, 2010, 12:12:14 PM
do you rly think that someone will donate or farm for a dynasty in this server? u cant farm with your stuck sub, u cant use hero skills on your stuck sub, oly with only 1 class ... and do you think that ppl will do pvp with theyr main class w/o stuck sub skills? lol :D epic fail server xD max 1 month of life if u dont fix this

They can fix it by simply making again subsystem like it suppose to be.
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: zule88 on May 01, 2010, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Torn on April 30, 2010, 10:26:17 PM
1st of all Icarus wont be at donny manager, you can only get it by getting recipes from EPIC bosses then fram mats and craft - no other way.
2nd Lame dinasties are not lame they are official DYNASTY armors (DNET sets doesnt exist on Valkyria), and not to mention that you can farm for dynasty or donate but both options is available.

So before asumming something make sure you are well informed.

dont even try,they are always right, anything u do or say valkyria will suck cos something is not like they wish , they are just kids.


p.s to topic creator, u dont like this new server ? GO freakING MAKE UR OWN! AND DO ANYTHING U WANT!


p.s.s i like a lot this new functions +1 to gms
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: TifaPL on May 01, 2010, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: zule88 on May 01, 2010, 01:00:20 PM
dont even try,they are always right, anything u do or say valkyria will suck cos something is not like they wish , they are just kids.


p.s to topic creator, u dont like this new server ? GO freakING MAKE UR OWN! AND DO ANYTHING U WANT!


p.s.s i like a lot this new functions +1 to gms
And many ppl just wont play this server becouse they dont like it, you will have to pvp and get pt with taurin couz the community will be lower and lower and lower.
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Vessar on May 01, 2010, 01:28:27 PM
Quote from: TifaPL on May 01, 2010, 01:17:08 PM
And many ppl just wont play this server becouse they dont like it, you will have to pvp and get pt with taurin couz the community will be lower and lower and lower.


True :D
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: freezoid1 on May 01, 2010, 01:49:41 PM
Quote from: TifaPL on May 01, 2010, 01:17:08 PM
And many ppl just wont play this server becouse they dont like it, you will have to pvp and get pt with taurin couz the community will be lower and lower and lower.
check arena  :P

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btw u still can go with your dn sub on sieges and pvp zones... there are a lot of nice places to go with dn sub
and look again on list:

All Catacombs and Necro - like it would be hard to pwn these mobs... and maybe 7s will be ballanced? :) dusk/down
All of Hellbound - i guess here update was made to make hellbound again "hard but good exp/farm zone" where u need party to kill mobs.... again thats not bad
Valakas’ lair - like anthy and frintez, its good idea. no more full archer/nuker pt... ppl will need support chars to pwn epic bosses (and yes... some ppl like playing support char)
Anthras’ lair
Frintezza’s room
Olympiad - wanted ballanced oly? np.... now u can fight as pp with damn sps, and have a chance to win. oly CAN'T be ballanced with dn sub system...

guys plz dont cry like babies, check how its all working... server is ON since yesterday and u already want to kill it
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: dracko on May 01, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: freezoid1 on May 01, 2010, 01:49:41 PM
check arena  :P

________________________________________________________

btw u still can go with your dn sub on sieges and pvp zones... there are a lot of nice places to go with dn sub
and look again on list:

All Catacombs and Necro - like it would be hard to pwn these mobs... and maybe 7s will be ballanced? :) dusk/down
All of Hellbound - i guess here update was made to make hellbound again "hard but good exp/farm zone" where u need party to kill mobs.... again thats not bad
Valakas’ lair - like anthy and frintez, its good idea. no more full archer/nuker pt... ppl will need support chars to pwn epic bosses (and yes... some ppl like playing support char)
Anthras’ lair
Frintezza’s room
Olympiad - wanted ballanced oly? np.... now u can fight as pp with damn sps, and have a chance to win. oly CAN'T be ballanced with dn sub system...

guys plz dont cry like babies, check how its all working... server is ON since yesterday and u already want to kill it

+ 1 for you, and you're right
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And as for the rest of the ppl do not cry and learn to play without sub
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: TifaPL on May 01, 2010, 02:07:27 PM
Torn and Descent just wanted to let ppl choose, play in DN style or in retail-like style :) But there is no place for 2 options at 1 server at DN, its network of overpowered substuck chars and all want it ;)
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: Locus on May 01, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
Quote from: freezoid1 on May 01, 2010, 01:49:41 PM
check arena  :P

________________________________________________________

btw u still can go with your dn sub on sieges and pvp zones... there are a lot of nice places to go with dn sub
and look again on list:

All Catacombs and Necro - like it would be hard to pwn these mobs... and maybe 7s will be ballanced? :) dusk/down
All of Hellbound - i guess here update was made to make hellbound again "hard but good exp/farm zone" where u need party to kill mobs.... again thats not bad
Valakas’ lair - like anthy and frintez, its good idea. no more full archer/nuker pt... ppl will need support chars to pwn epic bosses (and yes... some ppl like playing support char)
Anthras’ lair
Frintezza’s room
Olympiad - wanted ballanced oly? np.... now u can fight as pp with damn sps, and have a chance to win. oly CAN'T be ballanced with dn sub system...

guys plz dont cry like babies, check how its all working... server is ON since yesterday and u already want to kill it

/agree
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: JeEbok on May 01, 2010, 03:03:10 PM
Quote from: freezoid1 on May 01, 2010, 01:49:41 PM
check arena  :P

________________________________________________________

btw u still can go with your dn sub on sieges and pvp zones... there are a lot of nice places to go with dn sub
and look again on list:

All Catacombs and Necro - like it would be hard to pwn these mobs... and maybe 7s will be ballanced? :) dusk/down
All of Hellbound - i guess here update was made to make hellbound again "hard but good exp/farm zone" where u need party to kill mobs.... again thats not bad
Valakas’ lair - like anthy and frintez, its good idea. no more full archer/nuker pt... ppl will need support chars to pwn epic bosses (and yes... some ppl like playing support char)
Anthras’ lair
Frintezza’s room
Olympiad - wanted ballanced oly? np.... now u can fight as pp with damn sps, and have a chance to win. oly CAN'T be ballanced with dn sub system...

guys plz dont cry like babies, check how its all working... server is ON since yesterday and u already want to kill it


yeah

and mby it's possible to make auto-switch to ur main class when u teleport to this zones (or make NPc near spawn point for switch -> and if u attack moobs / players on retail class auto GK to nearest town) and when u left auto switch to ur retail
Title: Re: What we have expected and didn't get +1
Post by: dracko on May 01, 2010, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: JeEbok on May 01, 2010, 03:03:10 PM

yeah

and mby it's possible to make auto-switch to ur main class when u teleport to this zones (or make NPc near spawn point for switch -> and if u attack moobs / players on retail class auto GK to nearest town) and when u left auto switch to ur retail

+ 1