Helllooo
I am lvl 57 sps and i got 4500 silver coins (most time i played allone or in duo, to get more)
Problem is my mobs i am killing now are with Gold (for a grade) so i have to kill low lvl mobs... an problem is if i dont reech 7k silver i cant do anything with it !!! cheapest thing to buy is 7500 coins.. its to much, i am sure 99% of ppl will not have 7500 coins oO
anyone else has this problem ?
My suggestion change it to 5000 (2000 was at beginning of the server, this was to low !!)
greetz Fragzilla
i am lvl 49 and i have 3k... well thi coin system can help u but... lol if u cant get by coins craft it...
Quote from: Austrian3 on May 02, 2010, 12:59:13 AM
Helllooo
I am lvl 57 sps and i got 4500 silver coins (most time i played allone or in duo, to get more)
Problem is my mobs i am killing now are with Gold (for a grade) so i have to kill low lvl mobs... an problem is if i dont reech 7k silver i cant do anything with it !!! cheapest thing to buy is 7500 coins.. its to much, i am sure 99% of ppl will not have 7500 coins oO
anyone else has this problem ?
My suggestion change it to 5000 (2000 was at beginning of the server, this was to low !!)
greetz Fragzilla
I think that nice idea would be coins exchange system (1 coin of higher grade = 2 of lower grade) or even 1:1, depends on GM decisions :D
Quote from: WujekDobraRada on May 02, 2010, 01:02:19 AM
I think that nice idea would be coins exchange system (1 coin of higher grade = 2 of lower grade) or even 1:1, depends on GM decisions :D
and make coins to be tradable...adn yes btw you cant get 7500 coins or maybe you can get if you alawys kill mobs that are much low lvl than you and thats mean to lose lot of time...in the end this coins system should help us or slow us down?
ps:vax i am 50 and i have almost 1k...
Quote from: Austrian3 on May 02, 2010, 12:59:13 AM
Helllooo
I am lvl 57 sps and i got 4500 silver coins (most time i played allone or in duo, to get more)
Problem is my mobs i am killing now are with Gold (for a grade) so i have to kill low lvl mobs... an problem is if i dont reech 7k silver i cant do anything with it !!! cheapest thing to buy is 7500 coins.. its to much, i am sure 99% of ppl will not have 7500 coins oO
anyone else has this problem ?
My suggestion change it to 5000 (2000 was at beginning of the server, this was to low !!)
greetz Fragzilla
well i think is still too low... i still think like i told gm's that most suffer dwarfs cuz ppl will farm this coins... if would be up to me i would even rise price for items... normally how long u would need to farm to get sov/ top b?? c'mon guys make it bit more harder... is 2nd day of server and u alreadywanna have b grade weapon...
vax i dont belive you ;)
i spoke to ~20-30 ppl with lvl 45-55 and all have 1000-3000max 4000 but 3k-4k are ppl with lvl 54+
1 person told me something good... ( i didnt used my brain) .. he said : at least with subclass u will get it.... well its true :P
but its bad -.-
Quote from: Austrian3 on May 02, 2010, 01:12:55 AM
vax i dont belive you ;)
i spoke to ~20-30 ppl with lvl 45-55 and all have 1000-3000max 4000 but 3k-4k are ppl with lvl 54+
1 person told me something good... ( i didnt used my brain) .. he said : at least with subclass u will get it.... well its true :P
but its bad -.-
well i dont ask u to belive me... i can just add that 1k coins is around 1h mby bit more...
Quote from: Torek [IF] on May 02, 2010, 01:32:20 AM
that's why 15x is a great bullshit, 9x was still high but acceptable.
for all noobs who playied on 235454x quit l2 cuz l2 isn't for kids who wanna have everything in 1 week.
i really ROFL when ppl say: omg this server is too hard, noone will get good equip cuz rate is too low.......then i answer....join infinity noobas and learn how to play
play hard go pro, only old players know the meaning of this words, the rest is shit
deeply agreed.
this coin system is freaked the server hard through at least 4 holes simultaneously o_o
with present setup ppl just cant get B weapons without sin eater... lol
if gms want to keep their so precious coin system (which i like) atleast make some modifications:- make every item which can be obtainable through coins untradable and set their price to 0. this would also help against bots at gremlins/low level places.
- do not make coins tradeable between players, BUT make them exchangeble between grades by igor. (rate would depend on coin's grade)
lol this server is very easy,.. i dont flame for this... i flame that i farm something,.. and if i dont get 7500 its waste of time and i could farm for a....
btw i normaly craft my staff ;) like B/A/S :P i know hat work this is
A grade??? pfff... take B grade at lvl 66 and be happy till lvl 74 (after sub)...aaah they were old time...
Quote from: Torek [IF] on May 02, 2010, 01:32:20 AM
The "kido" part was good, still, they implemented coin system to prevent obtaining stuff normal way: low rate drop/spoil, uneven correlation between exp and adena rates. And since coins don't work properly, we gоt none at the end. Well, nothing new around.
I have Valhalla from silver coins, cant add SA on it.. dont waste your time
i have other question... mby gm can anserw... cuz b grade weaons are not tradable but how is with them if u need to make retail quest?? if i take top b weapon for coins and when i wanna make q on retail can i give this weapon?? or i need to craft real 1?? anserw plox
Quote from: Vax on May 02, 2010, 11:33:00 AM
i have other question... mby gm can anserw... cuz b grade weaons are not tradable but how is with them if u need to make retail quest?? if i take top b weapon for coins and when i wanna make q on retail can i give this weapon?? or i need to craft real 1?? anserw plox
craft real one
just make items from coins equal to zero at shops,and everoyne will be happy.
Edit to win
Look, the weapons are already non-treadeable and cant be sold at npc shops so.. why not make them tradeable by freight. I got 650 silver on my DE, 500 on my WC, thats already 1/8 of a weapon. If they use bots to get weapons for theyre main, who cares? A mage with SOV, Pole and Bow...is still a Mage.The only + will be for DE who will have pole,swords and 2h swords. I do not disagree with the rates, and i am aware that the coins system is very usefull for new chars, and its starting the economy to get on its legs.But i only got a C wep,armor and jewels on 1! char because i raised 3 chars(a buffer , a dmg dealer, and a friend; and i was the only one picking up!).Same happend with silver, me and a friend,we both dualboxed, and only one of he's char picked up. So u need about 4x more coins to get the necesary equip for your grade. Again flamers will say i want som when i am 61. NO! i just want my chance to farm my silvers for SOV,and not end up with 4k silver that is useless since i cant farm silver anymore. The best solution i can think of is freight trade. Its not that important if a TH will also have a bow, ffs let him get that bow, he wont make a real difference in PVP anyway with it.
Quote from: WujekDobraRada on May 02, 2010, 01:02:19 AM
I think that nice idea would be coins exchange system (1 coin of higher grade = 2 of lower grade) or even 1:1, depends on GM decisions :D
bad ideia , every1 will use more more and more l2walker to farm Bronze Coins and exchange them for higher.. dont change anything on System, or if Gm's change something i hope they cut out all A and S weaponds... ( B grade still bad but nvm .. )
Quote from: Torek [IF] on May 02, 2010, 01:32:20 AM
that's why 15x is a great bullshit, 9x was still high but acceptable.
for all noobs who playied on 235454x quit l2 cuz l2 isn't for kids who wanna have everything in 1 week.
i really ROFL when ppl say: omg this server is too hard, noone will get good equip cuz rate is too low.......then i answer....join infinity noobas and learn how to play
play hard go pro, only old players know the meaning of this words, the rest is shit
true, but dont try to be more than u are l ;)
Edited: you can farm all coins that u need until lvl 58, without walker, without shiits, just with 1 pp behind u :D
So nvm..
Quote from: Nabz0r on May 16, 2010, 01:19:45 AM
Look, the weapons are already non-treadeable and cant be sold at npc shops so.. why not make them tradeable by freight. I got 650 silver on my DE, 500 on my WC, thats already 1/8 of a weapon. If they use bots to get weapons for theyre main, who cares? A mage with SOV, Pole and Bow...is still a Mage.The only + will be for DE who will have pole,swords and 2h swords. I do not disagree with the rates, and i am aware that the coins system is very usefull for new chars, and its starting the economy to get on its legs.But i only got a C wep,armor and jewels on 1! char because i raised 3 chars(a buffer , a dmg dealer, and a friend; and i was the only one picking up!).Same happend with silver, me and a friend,we both dualboxed, and only one of he's char picked up. So u need about 4x more coins to get the necesary equip for your grade. Again flamers will say i want som when i am 61. NO! i just want my chance to farm my silvers for SOV,and not end up with 4k silver that is useless since i cant farm silver anymore. The best solution i can think of is freight trade. Its not that important if a TH will also have a bow, ffs let him get that bow, he wont make a real difference in PVP anyway with it.
u can farm after retail, and then after 2nd retail and after 3rd, who said it will be easy?
It's so freak'n easy to do....
On lvl 45 you can start to kill mobs 1/2 in group 4-5 mobs near oren :). In this option you can get arround 15k Silver coins to lvl 58.
Peace!
Quote from: Nabz0r on May 16, 2010, 01:19:45 AM
Look, the weapons are already non-treadeable and cant be sold at npc shops so.. why not make them tradeable by freight. I got 650 silver on my DE, 500 on my WC, thats already 1/8 of a weapon. If they use bots to get weapons for theyre main, who cares? A mage with SOV, Pole and Bow...is still a Mage.The only + will be for DE who will have pole,swords and 2h swords. I do not disagree with the rates, and i am aware that the coins system is very usefull for new chars, and its starting the economy to get on its legs.But i only got a C wep,armor and jewels on 1! char because i raised 3 chars(a buffer , a dmg dealer, and a friend; and i was the only one picking up!).Same happend with silver, me and a friend,we both dualboxed, and only one of he's char picked up. So u need about 4x more coins to get the necesary equip for your grade. Again flamers will say i want som when i am 61. NO! i just want my chance to farm my silvers for SOV,and not end up with 4k silver that is useless since i cant farm silver anymore. The best solution i can think of is freight trade. Its not that important if a TH will also have a bow, ffs let him get that bow, he wont make a real difference in PVP anyway with it.
+1
Pls make coins tradable by freight, I have alot of coins stuck on chars, and I dont wanna waste them so I can buy offline shops, especially gold ones ::) I dont think that making coins tradable by freight will ruin the game play. Besides, I wanna set offline shop with a secondary char, not with my main char(as I am sure all of us would), so please consider our idea.
Also I think we should be able to buy C grade items with silver coins also, or at least some potions or something, it's too bad that those coins go to waste.
Cireneu, you didnt understand a damn thing i said. I didnt say i want the coins to be treadeable umong themselvs ( x bronze <=> y silver). And i didnt say nothing about bronze.Im talking about silver, and maybe gold(i dont know yet since im not that level yet). Im not contesting the coin system, im just saying that a little improvement on it, would make our lives easyer.
Quote from: Nabz0r on May 16, 2010, 11:15:44 AM
Cireneu, you didnt understand a damn thing i said. I didnt say i want the coins to be treadeable umong themselvs ( x bronze <=> y silver). And i didnt say nothing about bronze.Im talking about silver, and maybe gold(i dont know yet since im not that level yet). Im not contesting the coin system, im just saying that a little improvement on it, would make our lives easyer.
that is true, it would make your life easier. But making your life easier might be bad for server.
Most of problems on server we had because GM's wanted to make someones life easier.
ahh use your brains people.... -.- everything is fine, the coin system at other stuffs... I agree with 1 thing... u collecting to slow the (for example silver coin) coins according to your grade... its ok still, but u can do 1 thing just make coin drop rate higher and there u go.. u can have b grade at 55-56 lvl.... if u play solo... BUT STILL biggest problem is l2w... nothing more... i playing since 2006 and i never used l2w.. I'm not say I want to cry here... Just ppl with l2w screwing up the whole server. Am I right? Play fair. Play hard get C/B grade and go pvp....
A and S grade will come after....
I miss c3 :(((( when in varka b grade ruled!
well mates, your problem is that you think that its normal to exp on red/light red mobs.
it isnt
and as chujzord said. go near oren, i made there 13k silver coins before i reached 60 lvl. with crafter, so dont cry and learn to play
Quote from: nolimits on May 16, 2010, 03:13:32 PM
well mates, your problem is that you think that its normal to exp on red/light red mobs.
it isnt
and as chujzord said. go near oren, i made there 13k silver coins before i reached 60 lvl. with crafter, so dont cry and learn to play
thats true, but in party u cant reach all coins that u need, i mean 1 party with 3-4 members.
but ofc if u farm it alone u can reach it so easy .. today i farmed 4-5k silver in 2h with my friend. but only me was making pick up.
btw we can farm alot of coins without problem.
Quote from: Agent on May 02, 2010, 01:49:27 AM
deeply agreed.
this coin system is freaked the server hard through at least 4 holes simultaneously o_o
with present setup ppl just cant get B weapons without sin eater... lol
if gms want to keep their so precious coin system (which i like) atleast make some modifications:
- make every item which can be obtainable through coins untradable and set their price to 0. this would also help against bots at gremlins/low level places.
- do not make coins tradeable between players, BUT make them exchangeble between grades by igor. (rate would depend on coin's grade)
+1.. in lvl 49 i colect like more of 5k of coins.. buy a sin eater and ready.. other way.. kill mobs whit a low char like lvl 45 (mage is more fast) and colect the items whit ur main.. and ready. whit my clan, we farm very fast (1 day i think..) a valhala the 6 day of the server..
and whit bronce.. whit 1 char lvl 16 i colect 2,5k of coins in 1 hour 30 mins.. and this is a balance server whit future <.<"