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Poll
Question: About GM solution of wipe adena
Option 1: agree votes: 21
Option 2: we need rollback votes: 20
Option 3: coins messed server, wipe votes: 18
Title: About GM solution
Post by: Sanctus on May 08, 2010, 03:32:51 PM
What do you think about GM solution of wipe adena from players who exploited?
How about all other things you can buy with it? all crystals, sets, weapons, tatoos, marks, etc...
There was like 4 or 5 hours of ppl dropping items , adena, crystals, etc.. in giran.
1st you give advantage to L2W users that farmed coins and bought 1, 2 and even 3 Clanhalls..
your solution was to rise amout of coins needed.. ok easy for a bot still, harder for a person.
Now you did a big mistake with this update.. and
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Kerth on May 08, 2010, 03:38:21 PM
there is already such topic...
anyway I'll anser you - IMO roll back server to time before exploit started, and make ALL D / C items buought at coins npc not sellable or nottradeable (what for some ppl want to trade it, i really dont know)
Title: ..-..
Post by: Jarski69 on May 08, 2010, 03:38:54 PM
wipe would be easy and take coin system away :)
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: magnetix on May 08, 2010, 03:42:32 PM
I dont want to play thinking about that some noobs have 1kkk+ because of bug. Wipe is 1 and only 1 solution. Wipe adena isnt good idea, cause they maybe bought some staff for the adena and now wipe will do nothing!
Title: Re: ..-..
Post by: CTEBAH on May 08, 2010, 03:42:41 PM
Quote from: Jarski69 on May 08, 2010, 03:38:54 PM
wipe would be easy and take coin system away :)

and make better drop adena then :D
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Thrinku on May 08, 2010, 03:43:24 PM
any rollback, any wipe, just ban for noobs who make adena from bug, delete this bug, ale make weapons for trade when weapon is buyed for coins
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Austrian3 on May 08, 2010, 03:46:27 PM
Thx GM for this great work,
it was your mistake, but you handle it well,
you are still a normal human :P and humans makes mistakes (thx god i am elv)

about took their money,.. good idea, no rollback is good
even if they bought some other things, its just a few kk maybe,.. if they bought some tattoos ... who cares, other farmes and crafting dwarfs also have over 100kk or more, it doesnt destroy the server.

And for all ppl who say "wipe this server" i am 100% sure u stared 2 days ago and you are under lvl 50,.. or maybe u play since beginn, and you are pissed of that some ppl are 70+ and you are just 50+ because u have to bad knowledge about lineage 2.

As i can see on forum most ppl say that all players 70+ are walkers,... well just learn the game -.-
For me i am 7x yes, and if you call me that i am using walker,... i dont have the .exe,.. i never had it, and i have no clue how to set up such a walker, i would need longer to make a walker setup than make a char by my own to lvl 70 lol xD

Thx GM team for your work
and keep hunting the walkers :)
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: ChujoZord on May 08, 2010, 03:47:35 PM
No freaking wipe are you idiots?
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Austrian3 on May 08, 2010, 03:47:46 PM
Quote from: magnetix on May 08, 2010, 03:42:32 PM
I dont want to play thinking about that some noobs have 1kkk+ because of bug. Wipe is 1 and only 1 solution. Wipe adena isnt good idea, cause they maybe bought some staff for the adena and now wipe will do nothing!

so dont play, we dont care about you
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: ekson on May 08, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
1,5h later and server still down.............
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: sausrainis on May 08, 2010, 03:50:32 PM
Quote from: Austrian3 on May 08, 2010, 03:46:27 PM
Thx GM for this great work,
it was your mistake, but you handle it well,
you are still a normal human :P and humans makes mistakes (thx god i am elv)

about took their money,.. good idea, no rollback is good
even if they bought some other things, its just a few kk maybe,.. if they bought some tattoos ... who cares, other farmes and crafting dwarfs also have over 100kk or more, it doesnt destroy the server.

And for all ppl who say "wipe this server" i am 100% sure u stared 2 days ago and you are under lvl 50,.. or maybe u play since beginn, and you are pissed of that some ppl are 70+ and you are just 50+ because u have to bad knowledge about lineage 2.

As i can see on forum most ppl say that all players 70+ are walkers,... well just learn the game -.-
For me i am 7x yes, and if you call me that i am using walker,... i dont have the .exe,.. i never had it, and i have no clue how to set up such a walker, i would need longer to make a walker setup than make a char by my own to lvl 70 lol xD

Thx GM team for your work
and keep hunting the walkers :)

+1 To this guy ,very reasonable post:)

Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Torn on May 08, 2010, 03:51:56 PM
Quote from: Sanctus on May 08, 2010, 03:32:51 PM
What do you think about GM solution of wipe adena from players who exploited?
How about all other things you can buy with it? all crystals, sets, weapons, tatoos, marks, etc...
There was like 4 or 5 hours of ppl dropping items , adena, crystals, etc.. in giran.
1st you give advantage to L2W users that farmed coins and bought 1, 2 and even 3 Clanhalls..
your solution was to rise amout of coins needed.. ok easy for a bot still, harder for a person.
Now you did a big mistake with this update.. and
No (total wipe) we did it only on most exploitable adena + something esle, no rollbacks needed after we scanned,checked,compared everything its really no need for any rollbacks just stop listening rumors and other people who say xxxx things about it, rollback is always easyest solution to do but really there is no reason for it. When issue happened there was barely 400 people online and 115shops , so have no worries everything will be back as it was. Cya online quite soon.
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: nietrzezwy on May 08, 2010, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: ChujoZord on May 08, 2010, 03:47:35 PM
No freaking wipe are you idiots?
search idiots at home you child. Do you call GMs idiots ? lolz, what an imprudence :O
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Moshu on May 08, 2010, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Torn on May 08, 2010, 03:51:56 PM
No (total wipe) we did it only on most exploitable adena + something esle, no rollbacks needed after we scanned,checked,compared everything its really no need for any rollbacks just stop listening rumors and other people who say xxxx things about it, rollback is always easyest solution to do but really there is no reason for it. When issue happened there was barely 400 people online and 115shops , so have no worries everything will be back as it was. Cya online quite soon.
good work dude
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: sausrainis on May 08, 2010, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: Torn on May 08, 2010, 03:51:56 PM
No (total wipe) we did it only on most exploitable adena + something esle, no rollbacks needed after we scanned,checked,compared everything its really no need for any rollbacks just stop listening rumors and other people who say xxxx things about it, rollback is always easyest solution to do but really there is no reason for it. When issue happened there was barely 400 people online and 115shops , so have no worries everything will be back as it was. Cya online quite soon.

Good job and Cya :)
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: sausrainis on May 08, 2010, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: k0rina on May 08, 2010, 03:57:35 PM
good
ps  back in topic stfu now all and wait server get online and u will see  what u miss or not

Some respect too each other pls:)
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: StonerBashin on May 08, 2010, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: Bav3 on May 08, 2010, 03:59:34 PM
was 400 ppl and if even 10 ppl make 2 kkk is to much
and i still dont und wh bloodseeker baned
cause his a tard  :D
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: sausrainis on May 08, 2010, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Bav3 on May 08, 2010, 03:59:34 PM
was 400 ppl and if even 10 ppl make 2 kkk is to much
and i still dont und wh bloodseeker baned

Tell me one thing. Are you going to use l2walker in the future?






















I Think yes
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Boolets on May 08, 2010, 04:02:42 PM
imho anyway server will be a sh1t next week when l2w users will have drac bows :) 4 days = A-weaps, 14 days = s-weaps :D
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: SplichO on May 08, 2010, 04:06:47 PM
This is pure bullsh1t i didn't vote for any option cose none of them solves the problem, server needs a wipe and no other way can be fixed. People got clan halls with this exploit, is not just about adena amount ppl bought dys, shots, crystals, stacked sh1t load of items on different chars and is a way to big advantage for those who did legit. So this server either gonna get wiped or gonna take ages till ppl forget about this and new ppl join. I for sure wont play further if there wont be wipe or at least if there gonna be adena wipe to make it wise and wipe and search for logs, etc, etc is allot of work but you cannot fix the fact that there is ppl who got clan halls this way and is pure bullsh1t.


So GF to server if it doesn't get wiped.
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: StonerBashin on May 08, 2010, 04:08:04 PM
Quote from: SplichO on May 08, 2010, 04:06:47 PM
This is pure bullsh1t i didn't vote for any option cose none of them solves the problem, server needs a wipe and no other way can be fixed. People got clan halls with this exploit, is not just about adena amount ppl bought dys, shots, crystals, stacked sh1t load of items on different chars and is a way to big advantage for those who did legit. So this server either gonna get wiped or gonna take ages till ppl forget about this and new ppl join. I for sure wont play further if there wont be wipe or at least if there gonna be adena wipe to make it wise and wipe and search for logs, etc, etc is allot of work but you cannot fix the fact that there is ppl who got clan halls this way and is pure bullsh1t.


So GF to server if it doesn't get wiped.
If you don't like it then you can GET OUT
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: sausrainis on May 08, 2010, 04:08:25 PM
If they will remove A/S grade from coin shops there will be l2w spoilers crawling in spoilspots so fast drac sets are unavoidable. Anti bot system needed, or a good GM supervising.
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: nietrzezwy on May 08, 2010, 04:08:45 PM
Quote from: Boolets on May 08, 2010, 04:02:42 PM
imho anyway server will be a sh1t next week when l2w users will have drac bows :) 4 days = A-weaps, 14 days = s-weaps :D
+1
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Austrian3 on May 08, 2010, 04:14:37 PM
Quote from: SplichO on May 08, 2010, 04:06:47 PM
This is pure bullsh1t i didn't vote for any option cose none of them solves the problem, server needs a wipe and no other way can be fixed. People got clan halls with this exploit, is not just about adena amount ppl bought dys, shots, crystals, stacked sh1t load of items on different chars and is a way to big advantage for those who did legit. So this server either gonna get wiped or gonna take ages till ppl forget about this and new ppl join. I for sure wont play further if there wont be wipe or at least if there gonna be adena wipe to make it wise and wipe and search for logs, etc, etc is allot of work but you cannot fix the fact that there is ppl who got clan halls this way and is pure bullsh1t.


So GF to server if it doesn't get wiped.

i think nobody care about you,... your just a stupid flamer,..
and i promise you i didnt used any walker to make 100kk (until CH auction was) just me !!,.. and a clan or my clan have 40+ ppl so 100*40= 4kkk ... i dont say that we made this,.. but it would be possible, if everyone in clan is focused on making adena.. if you use your brain you know how to make adean (for now i have ~200-300kk, wihout any lol bugs or something)

btw i wann know your level, pls tell me,.. i bet you are ~53 or maybe lower
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: gryby on May 08, 2010, 04:15:32 PM
Quote from: SplichO on May 08, 2010, 04:06:47 PM
This is pure bullsh1t i didn't vote for any option cose none of them solves the problem, server needs a wipe and no other way can be fixed. People got clan halls with this exploit, is not just about adena amount ppl bought dys, shots, crystals, stacked sh1t load of items on different chars and is a way to big advantage for those who did legit. So this server either gonna get wiped or gonna take ages till ppl forget about this and new ppl join. I for sure wont play further if there wont be wipe or at least if there gonna be adena wipe to make it wise and wipe and search for logs, etc, etc is allot of work but you cannot fix the fact that there is ppl who got clan halls this way and is pure bullsh1t.


So GF to server if it doesn't get wiped.

clan halls were bought before  bug with 0 prices for weapons apeared.
as i remember only about ~2 clan halls had 2 or more bidders. fight was about clan halls in goddard.
let me quess yr clan was one of them and u dont have clan hall now, so u have ocassion for change yr situation, nice....
u need wipe not rollback cuz then ch will be without owners again
fukin cryier
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Boolets on May 08, 2010, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: sausrainis on May 08, 2010, 04:08:25 PM
If they will remove A/S grade from coin shops there will be l2w spoilers crawling in spoilspots so fast drac sets are unavoidable. Anti bot system needed, or a good GM supervising.

L2w spoilers in spoilspots is like you said unavoidable......by the time they finish with that spoils they will have enough plat coins for drac bows....so why give l2w users to kill 2 birds with 1 stone? xD. And no matter how many drac sets they farm, i they take S out i will know they will never farm drac bow :P and then i can sleep good at night lol
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Kazuki on May 08, 2010, 04:17:40 PM
Quote from: Austrian3 on May 08, 2010, 04:14:37 PM
i think nobody care about you,... your just a stupid flamer,..
and i promise you i didnt used any walker to make 100kk (until CH auction was) just me !!,.. and a clan or my clan have 40+ ppl so 100*40= 4kkk ... i dont say that we made this,.. but it would be possible, if everyone in clan is focused on making adena.. if you use your brain you know how to make adean (for now i have ~200-300kk, wihout any lol bugs or something)

btw i wann know your level, pls tell me,.. i bet you are ~53 or maybe lower
Yeah that's so normal to make 100kk+ in such a short time on a 9x server with only 3x drop rate (so adena rate)

If you find that normal to have so much adenas so fast, there is something wrong with you
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Austrian3 on May 08, 2010, 04:18:27 PM
Quote from: gryby on May 08, 2010, 04:15:32 PM
clan halls were bought before  bug with 0 prices for weapons apeared.
as i remember only about ~2 clan halls had 2 or more bidders. fight was about clan halls in goddard.
let me quess yr clan was one of them and u dont have clan hall now, so u have ocassion for change yr situation, nice....
u need wipe not rollback cuz then ch will be without owners again
fukin cryier

+1
but i think he could not even get 50kk to make a bid xDDD
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: sausrainis on May 08, 2010, 04:20:19 PM
Quote from: Austrian3 on May 08, 2010, 04:14:37 PM
i think nobody care about you,... your just a stupid flamer,..
and i promise you i didnt used any walker to make 100kk (until CH auction was) just me !!,.. and a clan or my clan have 40+ ppl so 100*40= 4kkk ... i dont say that we made this,.. but it would be possible, if everyone in clan is focused on making adena.. if you use your brain you know how to make adean (for now i have ~200-300kk, wihout any lol bugs or something)

btw i wann know your level, pls tell me,.. i bet you are ~53 or maybe lower

The only way in fresh server to get adena is craft and sell SSX/BSSX i dont rly believe you started 40 dwarfs and focused on adena making. 1 dwarf,maybe 2,3 imo :)
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Boolets on May 08, 2010, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: Kazuki on May 08, 2010, 04:17:40 PM
Yeah that's so normal to make 100kk+ in such a short time on a 9x server with only 3x drop rate (so adena rate)

If you find that normal to have so much adenas so fast, there is something wrong with you

Is 9x server and people have 100kk+, A-weaps, soon S-weaps...You all are maby blind or something but i know this would happen from day 1 when i see coin system. Make server 200x just so it can make more sense lmao
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: Boolets on May 08, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: sausrainis on May 08, 2010, 04:20:19 PM
The only way in fresh server to get adena is craft and sell SSX/BSSX i dont rly believe you started 40 dwarfs and focused on adena making. 1 dwarf,maybe 2,3 imo :)

You are wrong :P you can make l2w and farm bronze coin with new chr :D adena for everyone! Thats how i see our server start. Server flooded since day 1 with adena when players could have 10kk as lvl 35
Title: Re: About GM solution
Post by: DarkGirlsS on May 08, 2010, 04:23:25 PM
Quote from: Torn on May 08, 2010, 03:51:56 PM
No (total wipe) we did it only on most exploitable adena + something esle, no rollbacks needed after we scanned,checked,compared everything its really no need for any rollbacks just stop listening rumors and other people who say xxxx things about it, rollback is always easyest solution to do but really there is no reason for it. When issue happened there was barely 400 people online and 115shops , so have no worries everything will be back as it was. Cya online quite soon.
+1